A Manifesto . . . Crap, PERSONIFESTO . . . for Conscious Men
June 23, 2011 8:38 PM Subscribe
Not long ago, Gay Hendricks and Arjuna Ardegh penned A Manifesto for Conscious Men. It apologized on behalf of the male gender for a litany of very real wrongs men have done to women. The apology was also tendered on behalf of dead men, and on behalf who didn't apologize because they "they remain shackled in a prison of anger, fear and shame." Apart from the apparent wrongs men have visited directly on women, men pretty much copped a plea for the horrors wrought by centuries of religion, environmental degradation, an incapacity for feeling and fixation on logic, lust and commercialization of sex, war-making leaders, greed and a lack of compassion, and so forth. Fair enough. Backpedaling slightly, the conscious man acknowledged that men felt hurt by women, albeit for reasons that seemed unclear, then proclaimed "I forgive you for any ways you may have acted unconsciously, as I forgive myself and my gender for our own waking sleep.. . . I vow to treat your heart as the sacred temple it is, and I commit to honoring the feminine in you and me and in my relationship to all life. . . . Together, we can make miracles." Some people were pretty into this, and it has now attracted famous supporters. Can we hope that the waking sleep has ended?
This post was deleted for the following reason: We kind of had this thread already without the weird inverted framing and the Will Ferrell coda, this feels like it's trying kind of hard to Be Something for no particularly great reason. -- cortex
what the i don't even
posted by unSane at 8:41 PM on June 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by unSane at 8:41 PM on June 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
Now I'm too busy laughing at Will Ferrell and his brilliantly overwrought facial expressions to even take any of this seriously. So...um, yeah. Double what.
posted by Go Banana at 8:43 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by Go Banana at 8:43 PM on June 23, 2011
I am shackled in a prison...of BEANS!
posted by tumid dahlia at 8:45 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by tumid dahlia at 8:45 PM on June 23, 2011
The creepy tropical outdoor scene and them wearing polo shirts is killing me.
posted by Threeway Handshake at 8:47 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by Threeway Handshake at 8:47 PM on June 23, 2011
Without stating the obvious, this is stupid.
posted by New England Cultist at 8:47 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by New England Cultist at 8:47 PM on June 23, 2011
As a man, I honor your deep connection to the earth.
Anti-sexism fail.
posted by UbuRoivas at 8:48 PM on June 23, 2011 [2 favorites]
Anti-sexism fail.
posted by UbuRoivas at 8:48 PM on June 23, 2011 [2 favorites]
Here’s what we would like you to do:
Please read the manifesto below.
If you are a man, please click the “like” button if these points represent you.
SWEET! Done! Ladies, we're cool now, right?
posted by PlusDistance at 8:53 PM on June 23, 2011
Please read the manifesto below.
If you are a man, please click the “like” button if these points represent you.
SWEET! Done! Ladies, we're cool now, right?
posted by PlusDistance at 8:53 PM on June 23, 2011
...environmental degradation...
*mumble mumble*-not the one who has the fucking hair dryer running twenty-five hours a day-*mutter*-my balls only take like fifteen minutes tops-*mumble*
posted by tumid dahlia at 8:54 PM on June 23, 2011
*mumble mumble*-not the one who has the fucking hair dryer running twenty-five hours a day-*mutter*-my balls only take like fifteen minutes tops-*mumble*
posted by tumid dahlia at 8:54 PM on June 23, 2011
I'd mock this, but it's too easy. (Also, while deeply, deeply stupid they've got good intentions.)
posted by oddman at 8:54 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by oddman at 8:54 PM on June 23, 2011
If this is conscious, I'll remain unconscious, thank you.
posted by Ironmouth at 8:55 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by Ironmouth at 8:55 PM on June 23, 2011
Well, I think I speak for all of us, when I pen a manifesto and wear a polo shirt.
posted by Sticherbeast at 8:56 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by Sticherbeast at 8:56 PM on June 23, 2011
Put another way, its really, really important to treat the actual people around you really, really well. Apologizing for the wrong doing of men you never met, who existed before you were born? Waaaay lower down the list.
posted by Ironmouth at 8:57 PM on June 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by Ironmouth at 8:57 PM on June 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
Your horrors wrought by men links all seem to go to women. I take it you disagree with the idea behind the FPP, OP?
posted by stinkycheese at 9:00 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by stinkycheese at 9:00 PM on June 23, 2011
Put another way, its really, really important to treat the actual people around you really, really well. Apologizing for the wrong doing of men you never met, who existed before you were born? Waaaay lower down the list.
My great-grandpappy would could you an asshole and also ugly and probably a pagan...and I'm sorry for that :-(
posted by tumid dahlia at 9:03 PM on June 23, 2011
My great-grandpappy would could you an asshole and also ugly and probably a pagan...and I'm sorry for that :-(
posted by tumid dahlia at 9:03 PM on June 23, 2011
Musty Thicket & The Wonders was such a great band.
posted by tumid dahlia at 9:06 PM on June 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by tumid dahlia at 9:06 PM on June 23, 2011 [1 favorite]
The original video is ridiculous enough. I like Will Ferell and all, but the satire is completely unnecessary.
posted by stinkycheese at 9:07 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by stinkycheese at 9:07 PM on June 23, 2011
How are men responsible for the "incapacity for feeling and fixation on logic" of Ayn Rand? Or the "greed and a lack of compassion" of Hetty Green? Are these personality defects argued to be the product of widespread male dominion? Beyond the tertiary effects of their development within a corrupting institutional bias, these links do not seem to support the manifesto.
On preview, what stinkycheese said.
If the OP does indeed disagree with the FPP, then this post is framed in a questionably sarcastic, toungue-in-bloody-cheek sort of way.
posted by troll at 9:08 PM on June 23, 2011
On preview, what stinkycheese said.
If the OP does indeed disagree with the FPP, then this post is framed in a questionably sarcastic, toungue-in-bloody-cheek sort of way.
posted by troll at 9:08 PM on June 23, 2011
If I've wronged anybody, I'll apologize for myself. I hope these two Dr. Phil wannabes sue each other for the right to be the biggest wet noodle on earth and are eternally cursed to lecture together in a middle school gymnasium with no air conditioning.
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 9:09 PM on June 23, 2011
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 9:09 PM on June 23, 2011
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