Anybody you know make The List?
May 21, 2022 3:03 PM Subscribe
WaPo: Russia bans 963 Americans, including Biden and Harris, for life. Here is the list (mostly Russian, but the names are in English).
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posted by saturday_morning at 3:20 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by saturday_morning at 3:20 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
surprised to see Andy Biggs on the list, is Putin cleaning out his pocket lint or what
posted by taquito sunrise at 3:27 PM on May 21, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by taquito sunrise at 3:27 PM on May 21, 2022 [1 favorite]
Note that some of the names (like John McCain) are deceased.
Putin doesn’t even want the zombie John McCain to come in.
More likely they have list of people they have grievances, but no way for the person putting the list together from striking names as the list indicates that the Russians know he’s dead as it lists those who have died as deceased.
posted by jmauro at 3:30 PM on May 21, 2022
Putin doesn’t even want the zombie John McCain to come in.
More likely they have list of people they have grievances, but no way for the person putting the list together from striking names as the list indicates that the Russians know he’s dead as it lists those who have died as deceased.
posted by jmauro at 3:30 PM on May 21, 2022
Has some serious "You're not breaking up with ME, I'm breaking up with YOU" vibes.
Also -- totally a missed opportunity to declare Trump persona au gratin.
posted by Nerd of the North at 3:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [17 favorites]
Also -- totally a missed opportunity to declare Trump persona au gratin.
posted by Nerd of the North at 3:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [17 favorites]
Hillary Clinton:
I want to thank the Russian Academy for this Lifetime Achievement Award.
posted by justkevin at 3:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [61 favorites]
I want to thank the Russian Academy for this Lifetime Achievement Award.
posted by justkevin at 3:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [61 favorites]
My Republican congressperson, French Hill, and both of my Republican senators, John Boozman and Tom Cotton. Most of the Republican congresspeople you probably dislike most--Gaetz, Greene, Boebert, Cawthorn, Gosar, Cruz, Rubio, Stefanik... a lot more Republicans than I was expecting, although Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell do not make the list.
Some of the Democratic ones you probably like--Ocasio Cortez, Cori Bush, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, Pramila Jayapal... Bernie Sanders is over here like, 'well, maybe I shouldn't've visited Moscow back in the '80s.'
posted by box at 3:34 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
Some of the Democratic ones you probably like--Ocasio Cortez, Cori Bush, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, Pramila Jayapal... Bernie Sanders is over here like, 'well, maybe I shouldn't've visited Moscow back in the '80s.'
posted by box at 3:34 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
Probably just the easiest way to make sure that MTG, Boebert, Gaetz, and Cawrhorn are permabanned so that they can’t go make crazy in Russia.
posted by honeybee413 at 3:55 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by honeybee413 at 3:55 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
> Note that some of the names (like John McCain) are deceased.
> "... for life"
In that case, it's okay for him to go.
posted by I-Write-Essays at 4:19 PM on May 21, 2022 [12 favorites]
> "... for life"
In that case, it's okay for him to go.
posted by I-Write-Essays at 4:19 PM on May 21, 2022 [12 favorites]
i'm requesting that right here right now. ban me, putin. i dare you.
posted by glonous keming at 4:19 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
posted by glonous keming at 4:19 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
> Russia focused on the U.S. tech industry in naming Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Microsoft President Brad Smith to the list.
Right about now millions of people are googling "brad smith" and wondering what Satya did to get demoted.
Also: sucks for any of the ten thousand brads travelling to Russia today, but maybe this was a bad year to visit St Basil's Cathedral anyways.
posted by pwnguin at 4:22 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
Right about now millions of people are googling "brad smith" and wondering what Satya did to get demoted.
Also: sucks for any of the ten thousand brads travelling to Russia today, but maybe this was a bad year to visit St Basil's Cathedral anyways.
posted by pwnguin at 4:22 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
Orrin Hatch too.
posted by nat at 4:27 PM on May 21, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by nat at 4:27 PM on May 21, 2022 [1 favorite]
And realizing that a company can have both a president and a CEO.
posted by I-Write-Essays at 4:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by I-Write-Essays at 4:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
Russia is definitely climbing up the list of most toxic nations in human history.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 4:48 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 4:48 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
Russia is definitely climbing up the list of most toxic nations in human history.The current Russia, bad as they are, would have to struggle to even make it into the top five most toxic nations to have historically occupied their portion of the Eurasian landmass.
posted by Nerd of the North at 5:21 PM on May 21, 2022 [19 favorites]
There's certainly some odd ones in here - I stumbled across a former local (Fairfax County) judge who is now deceased. Why would a non-federal county judge be on here? Not to mention he's, you know, dead. Also lots of people I've never heard of listed as "US Citizens" - would hate to have a similar name and be traveling to Russia (not that I would advise anyone travel there anytime soon).
posted by photo guy at 5:32 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
posted by photo guy at 5:32 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
Probably the first time Morgan Freeman, Jen Psaki and Erik Prince have ever been on the same list though.
posted by mhoye at 5:59 PM on May 21, 2022 [9 favorites]
posted by mhoye at 5:59 PM on May 21, 2022 [9 favorites]
this list seems like the MacGuffin of a comedy skit
posted by glonous keming at 6:11 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
posted by glonous keming at 6:11 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
"None of us are planning tourist trips to Russia and none of us have bank accounts that we won't be able to access, so we will forge ahead." -Jen Psaki, previously.
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:15 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:15 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
Lynndie England? I mean I wouldn’t exactly be rolling out the red carpet for her either, but are they expecting this to become an issue?
posted by Naberius at 6:20 PM on May 21, 2022 [4 favorites]
posted by Naberius at 6:20 PM on May 21, 2022 [4 favorites]
The US, UK, and EU imposed similar bans on dozens/hundreds of Russian citizens at the start of the invasion, but I think they were a little less indiscriminate.
posted by Gerald Bostock at 6:22 PM on May 21, 2022
posted by Gerald Bostock at 6:22 PM on May 21, 2022
How do I get added to this list?
posted by MrGuilt at 7:02 PM on May 21, 2022 [6 favorites]
posted by MrGuilt at 7:02 PM on May 21, 2022 [6 favorites]
They've banned the whole Minnesota congressional delegation except for Rep. Jim Hagedorn (died a few months ago, seat is still vacant) and Sen. Tina Smith. I've got to think that Senator Smith is wondering why on earth she, of all of them, is still allowed in Russia. Did she do something wrong? Something right? WHAT???
posted by Gray Duck at 7:22 PM on May 21, 2022 [15 favorites]
posted by Gray Duck at 7:22 PM on May 21, 2022 [15 favorites]
...although Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell do not make the list.
It’s considered bad form to ban your own employees.
posted by Thorzdad at 7:22 PM on May 21, 2022 [23 favorites]
It’s considered bad form to ban your own employees.
posted by Thorzdad at 7:22 PM on May 21, 2022 [23 favorites]
Majorie Taylor Greene is on that list, though...
posted by subdee at 7:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
posted by subdee at 7:31 PM on May 21, 2022 [2 favorites]
Did they just update their original sanctions list with a few dozen random conservatives because everyone pointed out that the original sanctions list ( that the HRC tweet up above us referring to) only sanctioned Democrats?
posted by jacy at 7:42 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
posted by jacy at 7:42 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
Probably the first time Morgan Freeman, Jen Psaki and Erik Prince have ever been on the same list though.
Sounds like someone hasn't seen my sex tape.
posted by kirkaracha at 8:00 PM on May 21, 2022 [17 favorites]
Sounds like someone hasn't seen my sex tape.
posted by kirkaracha at 8:00 PM on May 21, 2022 [17 favorites]
Majorie Taylor Greene is on that list, though...
So they don't want them, either. Honestly, can you blame them?
posted by MrGuilt at 8:49 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
So they don't want them, either. Honestly, can you blame them?
posted by MrGuilt at 8:49 PM on May 21, 2022 [5 favorites]
Oh no! NOW where's Ron Johnson going to spend the Fourth of July!?
posted by Floydd at 11:11 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by Floydd at 11:11 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
It might be this: Russia turns on Morgan Freeman over election 'war' video.
posted by Harald74 at 11:50 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
posted by Harald74 at 11:50 PM on May 21, 2022 [3 favorites]
Did they check with Morgan to see if he really was turned on by that?
posted by chavenet at 3:09 AM on May 22, 2022 [7 favorites]
posted by chavenet at 3:09 AM on May 22, 2022 [7 favorites]
I read it as MTG, Gaetz, etc. are all either wildly unpredictable or just there to make the next news cycle that they are almost certainly more of a debt then a profit to Russia, in a PR sense.
McConnell, on the other hand, is a well known "old school" pol and back room deals can be done with him. And, also what Thorzdad said.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:48 AM on May 22, 2022
McConnell, on the other hand, is a well known "old school" pol and back room deals can be done with him. And, also what Thorzdad said.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:48 AM on May 22, 2022
Or could be the thing where you get angrier at the people who "should" be doing your dirty work not pulling through than you get at the people who were more neutral/had more power independent from you to begin with. Like how Trump saved his nastiest comments for Repubs who voted against his plans, not Dems.
Or the spy thing where once the plants become known they aren't valuable anymore yeah.
But like, who knows really... This list seems a lot more geared towards domestic damage control than international diplomacy, to me.
posted by subdee at 7:23 AM on May 22, 2022
Or the spy thing where once the plants become known they aren't valuable anymore yeah.
But like, who knows really... This list seems a lot more geared towards domestic damage control than international diplomacy, to me.
posted by subdee at 7:23 AM on May 22, 2022
Is Doctor Phil on the list? If not, can we deport him? What about Larry the Cable Guy? Or Tim Allen for that matter?
posted by y2karl at 7:29 AM on May 22, 2022 [2 favorites]
posted by y2karl at 7:29 AM on May 22, 2022 [2 favorites]
Mitch McConnell [did] not make the list...
Perhaps Russia does not want to alienate his wife Elaine Chao and her family, who are persons of influence with China. As most folks know, her father, James, founded The Foremost Group, a huge shipping company (now run by sister Angela) with extensive ties to China. Paraphrasing Wikipedia, Foremost borrowed millions of dollars from a Chinese state bank and owns a substantial interest in a major shipyard funded by a steel producer owned by the Chinese state, with whom it also has major contracts. Moreoever, Angela and James Chao have served on the boards of a Chinese state-owned shipbuilder, and Angela has been on the board of the Bank of China, as well as the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade (which was created by the government of China). From January 2018 to April 2019, 72% of the total tonnage shipped by Foremost was shipped to and from China. The Foremost Group has almost no footprint in the United States other than its headquarters in New York. More details about the family and their longstanding connections to powerful people in China here in this NYT article.
posted by carmicha at 10:53 AM on May 22, 2022 [6 favorites]
Perhaps Russia does not want to alienate his wife Elaine Chao and her family, who are persons of influence with China. As most folks know, her father, James, founded The Foremost Group, a huge shipping company (now run by sister Angela) with extensive ties to China. Paraphrasing Wikipedia, Foremost borrowed millions of dollars from a Chinese state bank and owns a substantial interest in a major shipyard funded by a steel producer owned by the Chinese state, with whom it also has major contracts. Moreoever, Angela and James Chao have served on the boards of a Chinese state-owned shipbuilder, and Angela has been on the board of the Bank of China, as well as the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade (which was created by the government of China). From January 2018 to April 2019, 72% of the total tonnage shipped by Foremost was shipped to and from China. The Foremost Group has almost no footprint in the United States other than its headquarters in New York. More details about the family and their longstanding connections to powerful people in China here in this NYT article.
posted by carmicha at 10:53 AM on May 22, 2022 [6 favorites]
NOW where's Ron Johnson going to spend the Fourth of July!?
Retains his Klingon dual-citizenship so he's all good.
posted by riverlife at 11:50 AM on May 22, 2022 [1 favorite]
Retains his Klingon dual-citizenship so he's all good.
posted by riverlife at 11:50 AM on May 22, 2022 [1 favorite]
Note that some of the names (like John McCain) are deceased.
Perhaps they meant to ban John McClane.
It doesn't make any less sense than any other explanation.
posted by Grangousier at 12:44 PM on May 22, 2022 [2 favorites]
Perhaps they meant to ban John McClane.
It doesn't make any less sense than any other explanation.
posted by Grangousier at 12:44 PM on May 22, 2022 [2 favorites]
although Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell do not make the list
Old Moscow Mitch, keeping the dream alive.
posted by kitten kaboodle at 2:24 PM on May 22, 2022
Old Moscow Mitch, keeping the dream alive.
posted by kitten kaboodle at 2:24 PM on May 22, 2022
I should have added to my comment about Mitch McConnell's exclusion from the list that China would be irritated with Russia if Elaine Chao's family felt maligned or inconvenienced by the latter's actions.
posted by carmicha at 5:00 PM on May 22, 2022 [4 favorites]
posted by carmicha at 5:00 PM on May 22, 2022 [4 favorites]
Actually… yes, though I won’t identify which. It appears they have included a lot of people in Congress regardless of party affiliation, which makes it all the more important to scrutinize those who were omitted.
posted by gelfin at 10:19 AM on May 23, 2022
posted by gelfin at 10:19 AM on May 23, 2022
"Probably the first time Morgan Freeman, Jen Psaki and Erik Prince have ever been on the same list though".
"Sounds like someone hasn't seen my sex tape."
You win the interwebs today .
posted by AJScease at 2:45 PM on May 24, 2022
"Sounds like someone hasn't seen my sex tape."
You win the interwebs today .
posted by AJScease at 2:45 PM on May 24, 2022
re: the title question: yes (not kidding).
posted by chaiyai at 2:21 AM on May 25, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by chaiyai at 2:21 AM on May 25, 2022 [1 favorite]
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