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October 7, 2004 9:35 AM Subscribe
U.K. news airs video of U.S. planes targetting Iraqi civilians. The Independent is reporting that Channel 4 aired for the first time on television U.S. fighter video footage of an attack on a crowd of Fallujah citizens. "At no point during the exchange between the pilot and controllers does anyone ask whether the Iraqis are armed or posing a threat. Critics say it proves war crimes are being committed."
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Mr. Marx is a quick-on-the-draw doublepost-spotting Swedish cowboy.
posted by dhoyt at 10:11 AM on October 7, 2004
posted by dhoyt at 10:11 AM on October 7, 2004
i appreciate the double post. the last video didn't work for me. this post seems to be about the coverage of said video. not sure if it's worth it, though ... here's Jeffrey Sinclair's take, from yesterday.
he claims ...
Those tapes, which constitute evidence of a war crime, have been in the possession of the Pentagon for several months, but they had not been publicly revealed until yesterday when a copy was leaked to a London television station.
i'm not sure what the war crime is ... indiscriminate killing of civilians? hasn't the US been doing that all along? is this really the first proof?
upon further reading, i'm not sure i even understand what a war crime is ...
Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention:
Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if committed against persons or property protected by the present Convention: wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments, wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement of a protected person, compelling a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power, or wilfully depriving a protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial prescribed in the present Convention, taking of hostages and extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly.
"extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity"? i'd like to be wrong, but i'm not sure that killing civilians that you think might be militants is a war crime. if so, i think it's been going on throughout the war.
posted by mrgrimm at 11:18 AM on October 7, 2004
he claims ...
Those tapes, which constitute evidence of a war crime, have been in the possession of the Pentagon for several months, but they had not been publicly revealed until yesterday when a copy was leaked to a London television station.
i'm not sure what the war crime is ... indiscriminate killing of civilians? hasn't the US been doing that all along? is this really the first proof?
upon further reading, i'm not sure i even understand what a war crime is ...
Article 147 of the Fourth Geneva Convention:
Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if committed against persons or property protected by the present Convention: wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments, wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement of a protected person, compelling a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power, or wilfully depriving a protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial prescribed in the present Convention, taking of hostages and extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly.
"extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity"? i'd like to be wrong, but i'm not sure that killing civilians that you think might be militants is a war crime. if so, i think it's been going on throughout the war.
posted by mrgrimm at 11:18 AM on October 7, 2004
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