October 19, 2006
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Congressman Jim Gibbons's was 5 points ahead in the polls for the Nevada Governor's race, but that was before these drunken 911 calls. [more at wonkette]
Wow the wheels are really coming off the Republican juggernaut at a record pace. There appears to be a change in the air.
posted by Ironmouth at 10:13 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by Ironmouth at 10:13 PM on October 19, 2006
This is just awesome. At least the right is going down in one big, hypocritical bang.
posted by mullingitover at 10:19 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by mullingitover at 10:19 PM on October 19, 2006
Lots more details here I especially like the one about the wingnut blogger calling out a completely different woman in another state.
posted by delmoi at 10:21 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by delmoi at 10:21 PM on October 19, 2006
no, stop, your killing me...*weeze*
hahhahahahahah etc.
posted by edgeways at 10:40 PM on October 19, 2006
hahhahahahahah etc.
posted by edgeways at 10:40 PM on October 19, 2006
"This is just awesome. At least the right is going down in one big, hypocritical bang." -- mullingitover
But its almost too rich a meal. I mean, I like to savor my scandals and political implosions. If the pace of political problems gets any larger I will need a political vomitorium before the November midterms.
posted by jadepearl at 10:40 PM on October 19, 2006
But its almost too rich a meal. I mean, I like to savor my scandals and political implosions. If the pace of political problems gets any larger I will need a political vomitorium before the November midterms.
posted by jadepearl at 10:40 PM on October 19, 2006
republicans produce video of themselves shooting at schoolbooks (but not for the reason you might think).
posted by delmoi at 10:46 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by delmoi at 10:46 PM on October 19, 2006
I'm totally confused by this story. Why is the accuser laughing repeatedly? In her 911 transcript the accuser mentions videotape; does such tape exist? I'm not in any way implying the accusation is fake, I'm just legitimately confused.
posted by jonson at 10:47 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by jonson at 10:47 PM on October 19, 2006
Jonson: the accuser assumes that the elevators will have video cameras, but isn't certain. She also dropped the charges because she didn't want to "go up against that." since there is no court case, there would be no way to legally access the tape, unless one of them sues each other, or the hotel leaks it to the press.
posted by delmoi at 11:01 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by delmoi at 11:01 PM on October 19, 2006
Wow the wheels are really coming off the Republican juggernaut at a record pace. There appears to be a change in the air.
Look people. Chickens and the counting thereof, previous to the hatching. It's a great time to laugh, and to point out the joke that Republicans have become, but it's not yet time to gloat.
And there's probably campaigns out there that need volunteers.
posted by namespan at 11:04 PM on October 19, 2006
Look people. Chickens and the counting thereof, previous to the hatching. It's a great time to laugh, and to point out the joke that Republicans have become, but it's not yet time to gloat.
And there's probably campaigns out there that need volunteers.
posted by namespan at 11:04 PM on October 19, 2006
Wow the wheels are really coming off the Republican juggernaut at a record pace. There appears to be a change in the air.
The Illuminatus are getting bored and feel like shaking the bug jar. Plus they have all those puppets for their left hand gathering dust in the corner...
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:06 PM on October 19, 2006 [2 favorites]
The Illuminatus are getting bored and feel like shaking the bug jar. Plus they have all those puppets for their left hand gathering dust in the corner...
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:06 PM on October 19, 2006 [2 favorites]
Also, people tend to laugh when they're under extreme stress, or plastered, or both.
posted by delmoi at 11:11 PM on October 19, 2006
posted by delmoi at 11:11 PM on October 19, 2006
and then he walked me upstairs and then he pushed me against the wall. I'm assuming there are cameras everywhere and anyways the camera will explain the rest and I don't really care about anything. I mean I started crying, I was crying, I told him I survived cancer 11 years and I, someone assaults me ... I don't care about rape I care about survival and he says 'survival ain't going to do your problem a bit,' so you'll see this stuff on camera if they have a camera.
Were there cameras?
posted by LarryC at 11:24 PM on October 19, 2006
Were there cameras?
posted by LarryC at 11:24 PM on October 19, 2006
According to Mazzeo's testimony, there were cell phone cameras taking pictures of his hands on her body in the bar.
But... the police report (which I read in its entirety) has a witness that says Mazzeo appeared to be drunk. And the transcript says she was laughing a lot. I'm also disinclined to belive Mazzeo because she says the first two 911 operators were rude to her when they were asking her location...
But I am also very annoyed that any married man would flirt with drunk women at a bar. Which is probably why Gibbons became less popular, even though no charges were filed.
posted by bugmuncher at 11:47 PM on October 19, 2006
But... the police report (which I read in its entirety) has a witness that says Mazzeo appeared to be drunk. And the transcript says she was laughing a lot. I'm also disinclined to belive Mazzeo because she says the first two 911 operators were rude to her when they were asking her location...
But I am also very annoyed that any married man would flirt with drunk women at a bar. Which is probably why Gibbons became less popular, even though no charges were filed.
posted by bugmuncher at 11:47 PM on October 19, 2006
Jonson: the accuser assumes that the elevators will have video cameras, but isn't certain. She also dropped the charges because she didn't want to "go up against that." since there is no court case, there would be no way to legally access the tape, unless one of them sues each other, or the hotel leaks it to the press.
Just because she dropped her claims doesn't mean that the investigation gets dropped too. There is still the matter of the 911 call.
posted by Pollomacho at 12:06 AM on October 20, 2006
Just because she dropped her claims doesn't mean that the investigation gets dropped too. There is still the matter of the 911 call.
posted by Pollomacho at 12:06 AM on October 20, 2006
But... the police report (which I read in its entirety) has a witness that says Mazzeo appeared to be drunk. And the transcript says she was laughing a lot. I'm also disinclined to belive Mazzeo because she says the first two 911 operators were rude to her when they were asking her location...
Yeah, it's very strange. I listened to all three of the calls. She's totally out of her mind drunk in the first two, but much more sober in the third (and hour later). The problem with drunk people is that they can't understand other people's intentions very well, especially if the other people aren't drunk. The 911 operator was trying to get her to focus and explain the situation more clearly, Mazzeo took that, apparently, as being rude.
For all we know Gibbons really was just trying to hold her up, and maybe he had been hitting on her, and she misinterpreted that.
It would be interesting to see what's on the cameras, but if she's not pressing charges, we probably won't ever get a chance to see.
Mazzeo's perspective this was just some drunk asshole harassing her and possibly threatening her, and she was too drunk to figure out what to do so she called 911 to be on the safe side. That's probably a good idea. If the guy wasn't a politician none of this would matter going forward at all.
posted by delmoi at 12:06 AM on October 20, 2006
Yeah, it's very strange. I listened to all three of the calls. She's totally out of her mind drunk in the first two, but much more sober in the third (and hour later). The problem with drunk people is that they can't understand other people's intentions very well, especially if the other people aren't drunk. The 911 operator was trying to get her to focus and explain the situation more clearly, Mazzeo took that, apparently, as being rude.
For all we know Gibbons really was just trying to hold her up, and maybe he had been hitting on her, and she misinterpreted that.
It would be interesting to see what's on the cameras, but if she's not pressing charges, we probably won't ever get a chance to see.
Mazzeo's perspective this was just some drunk asshole harassing her and possibly threatening her, and she was too drunk to figure out what to do so she called 911 to be on the safe side. That's probably a good idea. If the guy wasn't a politician none of this would matter going forward at all.
posted by delmoi at 12:06 AM on October 20, 2006
Oh also, obviously it's possible for drunk women to be assaulted.
posted by delmoi at 12:07 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by delmoi at 12:07 AM on October 20, 2006
Sometimes people laugh when they're nervous. She sounded as if she'd just gotten over a significant fright. And while it's pretty clear they had all been drinking, quite a bit, I'd still be very freaked out if a guy grabbed my arms very tightly and pushed me against the wall of an elevator--and after blurting out my story about how I'd survived cancer and being raped didn't concern me as much as just surviving--he'd said "survival ain’t going to do your problem a bit,"--I'd be running away and calling 911 too.
Also, he looks mean.
posted by cytherea at 12:48 AM on October 20, 2006
Also, he looks mean.
posted by cytherea at 12:48 AM on October 20, 2006
And there's probably campaigns out there that need volunteers.
Sadly, probably not republican ones, despite this gore-fest of boychasing, corruption and lies. Get out there and get out the vote.
posted by imperium at 1:38 AM on October 20, 2006
Sadly, probably not republican ones, despite this gore-fest of boychasing, corruption and lies. Get out there and get out the vote.
posted by imperium at 1:38 AM on October 20, 2006
Can we get the video & the 911 audio? How about an online competition for making the best comercial out of this, maybe using the works republican & rapist together in as many sentences as possible.
posted by jeffburdges at 3:48 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by jeffburdges at 3:48 AM on October 20, 2006
I got no comment on this until I see video.
posted by BrotherCaine at 4:19 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by BrotherCaine at 4:19 AM on October 20, 2006
Makes a consensual blowjob seem kind of tame, doesn't it?
posted by bardic at 5:28 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by bardic at 5:28 AM on October 20, 2006
Were there cameras?
I think reports said the parking garage cameras weren't recording at the time and the restaurant cameras hadn't been working for a year.
posted by mediareport at 6:24 AM on October 20, 2006
I think reports said the parking garage cameras weren't recording at the time and the restaurant cameras hadn't been working for a year.
posted by mediareport at 6:24 AM on October 20, 2006
Sigh, what is it, one an hour now? It's like someone pulled the rip cord and the parachute failed to open. Force equals mass times acceleration, y'all.
The more people proclaim their own morality, the more corrupt they are behind the facade. It was ever thus.
posted by fourcheesemac at 6:25 AM on October 20, 2006
The more people proclaim their own morality, the more corrupt they are behind the facade. It was ever thus.
posted by fourcheesemac at 6:25 AM on October 20, 2006
This is total garbage.
You guys are a bit too hungry for the right wing to fall. It is clouding your judgement.
posted by Addiction at 6:35 AM on October 20, 2006
You guys are a bit too hungry for the right wing to fall. It is clouding your judgement.
posted by Addiction at 6:35 AM on October 20, 2006
The latest issue of Harper's has an article on the Democratic candidate in this race.
posted by smackfu at 6:38 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by smackfu at 6:38 AM on October 20, 2006
This is total garbage. You guys are a bit too hungry for the right wing to fall. It is clouding your judgement.
posted by Addiction at 6:35 AM PST on October 20
Would you be so kind as to tell me why sexual assault is acceptable behavior from our candidates now? I mean, less than a decade ago we spent tens of millions of dollars investigating the President's consensual sexual relationships.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 6:42 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by Addiction at 6:35 AM PST on October 20
Would you be so kind as to tell me why sexual assault is acceptable behavior from our candidates now? I mean, less than a decade ago we spent tens of millions of dollars investigating the President's consensual sexual relationships.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 6:42 AM on October 20, 2006
This is total garbage.
it's politics
oc - Would you be so kind as to tell me why sexual assault is acceptable behavior from our candidates now?
i must have missed the part where a jury convicted him of something
but this currently isn't about justice anyway, it's about politics ... seems very effective, too
posted by pyramid termite at 7:06 AM on October 20, 2006
it's politics
oc - Would you be so kind as to tell me why sexual assault is acceptable behavior from our candidates now?
i must have missed the part where a jury convicted him of something
but this currently isn't about justice anyway, it's about politics ... seems very effective, too
posted by pyramid termite at 7:06 AM on October 20, 2006
i must have missed the part where a jury convicted him of something
You must have missed the part where I didn't say "throw him in jail without a trial." Just because you haven't been convicted of sexual assault doesn't mean you're not a fucking asshole and grade-a creep.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 7:46 AM on October 20, 2006
You must have missed the part where I didn't say "throw him in jail without a trial." Just because you haven't been convicted of sexual assault doesn't mean you're not a fucking asshole and grade-a creep.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 7:46 AM on October 20, 2006
Optimus Chyme writes "You must have missed the part where I didn't say 'throw him in jail without a trial.'"
Yeah, it's not like he's a suspected terrorist, or some Afghani who stole his neighbor's goat and got ratted out to the CIA as a terrorist mastermind.
posted by orthogonality at 8:00 AM on October 20, 2006
Yeah, it's not like he's a suspected terrorist, or some Afghani who stole his neighbor's goat and got ratted out to the CIA as a terrorist mastermind.
posted by orthogonality at 8:00 AM on October 20, 2006
I don't care how drunk she was, at least she was able to recognize a universal truth:
911: Alright. He didn't seem like he was under the influence of anything other than alcohol correct?
MAZZEO: Um, probably power (laughing). ... But I don't know ...
posted by leftcoastbob at 8:15 AM on October 20, 2006
911: Alright. He didn't seem like he was under the influence of anything other than alcohol correct?
MAZZEO: Um, probably power (laughing). ... But I don't know ...
posted by leftcoastbob at 8:15 AM on October 20, 2006
I gotta say, I'm with dead_ on this one. Holy shit.
Of course, insane women can get assaulted, too.
posted by quite unimportant at 10:45 AM on October 20, 2006
Of course, insane women can get assaulted, too.
posted by quite unimportant at 10:45 AM on October 20, 2006
Here's another twist. The congressman claims he was helping the woman to her truck, yet, clearly the woman was absolutely drunk off her ass. Is the kind of attitude we want toward drunk driving Nevadians want in their governor?
posted by delmoi at 11:18 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by delmoi at 11:18 AM on October 20, 2006
After listening to the rest of the calls, she sounds crazier than anything else, but since she won't go to trial we'll never know.
posted by dozo at 11:49 AM on October 20, 2006
posted by dozo at 11:49 AM on October 20, 2006
Nevada has very strick drunk driving laws. They also have very wide lanes on the highway.
posted by daq at 12:00 PM on October 20, 2006
posted by daq at 12:00 PM on October 20, 2006
Drunk people sound drunk. And act drunk. But that's not free reign to assualt/grab/fondle/ attempt to rape or anything else.
posted by eridanis at 12:52 PM on October 20, 2006
posted by eridanis at 12:52 PM on October 20, 2006
The Illuminatus are getting bored and feel like shaking the bug jar.
People, the important thing to remember in all this is:
"Illuminatus" is singular. (Plural: Illuminati.)
Thank you.
posted by soyjoy at 1:03 PM on October 20, 2006
People, the important thing to remember in all this is:
"Illuminatus" is singular. (Plural: Illuminati.)
Thank you.
posted by soyjoy at 1:03 PM on October 20, 2006
Never even thought about that.
The congressman had. If you read the transcript of his comments to the cops, he seems to hesitate when giving the "I was helping a very drunk lady to her truck so she could drive home" alibi. Maybe that's just my reading, but it's an odd position he's taking, for sure.
posted by mediareport at 5:47 PM on October 20, 2006
The congressman had. If you read the transcript of his comments to the cops, he seems to hesitate when giving the "I was helping a very drunk lady to her truck so she could drive home" alibi. Maybe that's just my reading, but it's an odd position he's taking, for sure.
posted by mediareport at 5:47 PM on October 20, 2006
You know what... I am hungry for the right to fall, if nothing else one has to wonder at the shifting stories here. What is the best possible explination for the behavior? His OWN account of helpiing a drunk woman onto the road. Perhaps he is innocent of assulting her, but even the best case scenario here is pretty ick... so yeah under the circumstances, racist ads, multiple congressmen under investigation for a wide range of inpropriaties, George fucking Allen, abuse of power in propositiong pages... etc etc, this from the fucking party that campaigned so hard on 'family values' ... yeah I want the right to fall, and I think I am justified. What, you want them to retain power?
posted by edgeways at 6:02 PM on October 20, 2006
posted by edgeways at 6:02 PM on October 20, 2006
Stupid lack of 3 minute window for comment editing! I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling soyjoy!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:52 PM on October 20, 2006
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:52 PM on October 20, 2006
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