Let's cut to the chase.
April 24, 2007 7:28 AM Subscribe
No To Live and Die in LA? You fail at chase scenes!
posted by autodidact at 7:32 AM on April 24, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by autodidact at 7:32 AM on April 24, 2007 [1 favorite]
autodidact: though with The French Connection he does cite the work of William Friedkin--we'll let him off with a warning.
(No mention of Ronin, though?)
posted by Prospero at 7:34 AM on April 24, 2007
(No mention of Ronin, though?)
posted by Prospero at 7:34 AM on April 24, 2007
P.S. I'd like to take this moment to register my pre-emptive hatred of modern-day chase scenes that rely on digital tinkering for thrills--see Matrix Reloaded.
posted by Prospero at 7:36 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by Prospero at 7:36 AM on April 24, 2007
one of the first http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmnCAHDdZvO
posted by baker dave at 7:37 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by baker dave at 7:37 AM on April 24, 2007
No To Live and Die in LA?
No Bourne?
(No mention of Ronin, though?)
Kind sirs, alas, I am only one man, not a linking machine.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:37 AM on April 24, 2007
No Bourne?
(No mention of Ronin, though?)
Kind sirs, alas, I am only one man, not a linking machine.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:37 AM on April 24, 2007
doh, fear is the key
posted by baker dave at 7:38 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by baker dave at 7:38 AM on April 24, 2007
There can be no doubt about the best chase scene of all time.
posted by DU at 7:38 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by DU at 7:38 AM on April 24, 2007
I actually have seen that, but I forgot about it. Nobody does movie parodii like FG.
posted by DU at 7:45 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by DU at 7:45 AM on April 24, 2007
Kind sirs, alas, I am only one man, not a linking machine.
Making a comprehensive list of chase scenes that would satisfy everyone is an impossible task--I heartily applaud your attempt, though.
Also: Ronin
posted by Prospero at 7:47 AM on April 24, 2007
Making a comprehensive list of chase scenes that would satisfy everyone is an impossible task--I heartily applaud your attempt, though.
Also: Ronin
posted by Prospero at 7:47 AM on April 24, 2007
That Seven-Ups car chase was awsome. I've seen the others but never that one. Ronin is really good as well.
posted by nola at 7:49 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by nola at 7:49 AM on April 24, 2007
Many years ago, I took a BA in Film Theory and, after my third year (in which I took nothing but film theory courses), I was seriously burnt out on film overall.
The solution? I started renting every film I could think of with a good car chase scene, and made a VHS comp of my faves. Somehow watching a whole bunch of car chases all in a row like that helped immensely in scrubbing my mind of Laura Mulvey, etc., etc.
Also: That filmsite link is fantastic, thanks.
posted by stinkycheese at 7:53 AM on April 24, 2007
The solution? I started renting every film I could think of with a good car chase scene, and made a VHS comp of my faves. Somehow watching a whole bunch of car chases all in a row like that helped immensely in scrubbing my mind of Laura Mulvey, etc., etc.
Also: That filmsite link is fantastic, thanks.
posted by stinkycheese at 7:53 AM on April 24, 2007
Chaise scene
Put some wheels on that thing and give it to Steve McQueen!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:53 AM on April 24, 2007
Put some wheels on that thing and give it to Steve McQueen!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 7:53 AM on April 24, 2007
BTW if you've never seen the original 'Gone In 60 Seconds' (which I still cannot believe was actually remade), check it out. It's pretty insane.
posted by stinkycheese at 7:54 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by stinkycheese at 7:54 AM on April 24, 2007
One of my all time favorite chase scenes if from What’s Up, Doc, which is a surprisingly funny movie starting Barbara Streisand and Ryan O’Neil. It’s much, much funnier than you’d expect, given the cast.
posted by bondcliff at 7:54 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by bondcliff at 7:54 AM on April 24, 2007
Ah, you had me at Bullit.
Personal reasons abound: At the 0:52 mark, the corner store where I was able to "buy up" from the age of 16. At the 1:18 mark, the block where I lived after I moved out of the familial homestead (actually, the car is right in front of my apartment) (and no, I didn't choose that apartment because of it's proximity to the store...rilly) and learned to drive those mean streets. And by "mean", I mean steep! And who can forget that awesome continuity moments between 1:54 and 2:05 where the cars bounce seamlessly from Bernal Heights to Potrero Hill to...hey, let's get a shot of Coit Tower and throw in a cable car for good measure! Oh, yes, we San Franciscans have always been so smug about that...I remember acting it out years later on the schoolyard with my Matchbox Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car!
But really, it's at the 2:50 mark, when the roar of the engine begins, that I still catch myself (an ocean away, past my bedtime, and well past my car chase days) holding my breath.
Like I expect it to end differently *this* time.
posted by squasha at 8:05 AM on April 24, 2007
Personal reasons abound: At the 0:52 mark, the corner store where I was able to "buy up" from the age of 16. At the 1:18 mark, the block where I lived after I moved out of the familial homestead (actually, the car is right in front of my apartment) (and no, I didn't choose that apartment because of it's proximity to the store...rilly) and learned to drive those mean streets. And by "mean", I mean steep! And who can forget that awesome continuity moments between 1:54 and 2:05 where the cars bounce seamlessly from Bernal Heights to Potrero Hill to...hey, let's get a shot of Coit Tower and throw in a cable car for good measure! Oh, yes, we San Franciscans have always been so smug about that...I remember acting it out years later on the schoolyard with my Matchbox Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car!
But really, it's at the 2:50 mark, when the roar of the engine begins, that I still catch myself (an ocean away, past my bedtime, and well past my car chase days) holding my breath.
Like I expect it to end differently *this* time.
posted by squasha at 8:05 AM on April 24, 2007
I'm fond of the awkwardly slow and tense chase scene in Way of the Gun. Wasn't able to find it on youtube/google videos however.
And pretty much the entirety of Taxi.
And yes, the ultimate chase scene is on Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
posted by slimepuppy at 8:10 AM on April 24, 2007
And pretty much the entirety of Taxi.
And yes, the ultimate chase scene is on Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
posted by slimepuppy at 8:10 AM on April 24, 2007
Homer: I saw this in a movie about a bus that had to speed around a city, keeping its speed over fifty and if its speed dropped, it would explode! I think it was called ... "The Bus That Couldnt Slow Down."
posted by seanyboy at 8:12 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by seanyboy at 8:12 AM on April 24, 2007
Raising Arizona, and (only slightly off-topic) C'etait un rendezvous, which has been here previously.
posted by imperium at 8:13 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by imperium at 8:13 AM on April 24, 2007
Best 167 minute chase film featuring Ethel Merman.
posted by miss lynnster at 8:14 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by miss lynnster at 8:14 AM on April 24, 2007
The French Connection chase is still totally riveting.
And for sheer ridiculousness plus hovercrafts, bad dubbing and water skiing: Rumble in the Bronx.
posted by kosem at 8:14 AM on April 24, 2007
And for sheer ridiculousness plus hovercrafts, bad dubbing and water skiing: Rumble in the Bronx.
posted by kosem at 8:14 AM on April 24, 2007
I have nightmares sometimes that ol' Ethel is chasing me.
Advise?
posted by Dizzy at 8:21 AM on April 24, 2007
Advise?
posted by Dizzy at 8:21 AM on April 24, 2007
Seconding Road Warrior. Awesome chase greatness with tactical aerial support, crossbows, warrior chicks, Molotov cocktails, and mohawks. And the Feral Kid, of course. The entire movie represents one of Australia's greatest contributions to modern civilization.
posted by Midnight Creeper at 8:39 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by Midnight Creeper at 8:39 AM on April 24, 2007
There is no stopping the Ethel , not once she has fixed her eyes on you.
posted by nola at 8:41 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by nola at 8:41 AM on April 24, 2007
The 7-Ups car chase is fantastic and terrifying - the more so because they're both driving chaise lounges on pogo-stick suspension...
posted by anthill at 8:54 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by anthill at 8:54 AM on April 24, 2007
Well I'm sorry I couldn't find a link to the chase scenes in question, but let's not forget "The Triplettes of Bellevue". Two good chase scenes actually. If someone can track them down, I'm sure they will be most appreciated here.
posted by elendil71 at 9:06 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by elendil71 at 9:06 AM on April 24, 2007
Chase scenes are just so Hollywood. I've seen them on reality TV and it's just a disaster. I love you dearly flapjax at midnite but what is the point of this post other than glorification of speeding? I recognise that all of your cites are movies but…
Sorry to be a bummer but I think it needs to be said. This is far from real life and a large percentage of youth die on the road due to this sort of Romanticism
posted by tellurian at 9:07 AM on April 24, 2007
Sorry to be a bummer but I think it needs to be said. This is far from real life and a large percentage of youth die on the road due to this sort of Romanticism
posted by tellurian at 9:07 AM on April 24, 2007
And no chase scene thread in The Blue would be complete without MITCHELL! The most fascinating and intense chase scene ever to happen at twenty-five miles an hour. Be sure to check out the end of part four, also. You can't miss the merging scene! It's classic! It's larger than life! Just like MITCHELL.
posted by ZachsMind at 9:14 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by ZachsMind at 9:14 AM on April 24, 2007
And in the interests of more animated goodness, I present the (sort of) chase scene from Wallace and Gromit: A Close Shave.
posted by elendil71 at 9:14 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by elendil71 at 9:14 AM on April 24, 2007
The General. Keaton does all his own stunts. And no CGI. And it's a true story (mostly).
The Dead Pool. Which is sort of a parody of car chases, particularly Bullitt, but actually scary.
C'etait un rendez-vous
One of the things to appreciate about car chases, watching these for technique, is how hard it is to make a good one without resorting to gags. You have the truck backing into traffic, you have the lady with the stroller, you have the sidewalk detour, you have the boxes of fruit, you have the pedestrians scattering. Even in the good ones, like French Connection.
French Connection and C'etait... use the camera-low-to-the-ground trick, which makes everything seem faster and every potential collision scarier.
Bullitt cheats, notoriously -- count how many times they pass the green Beetle, or how many hubcaps are lost, and a few shots are sped up. But it has a great narrative tension throughout and the lack of soundtrack beyond car sounds is brilliant. And French Connection has a great -- I call it action logic. Where you always know where somebody is in relation to where you are, it's not just random montage of guys shooting machine guns or whatever. At the end, especially, it works so well because you have a three-dimensional scene.
I love The Dead Pool because it brilliantly uses all the standard gags, like pedestrians scattering. In The Seven-Ups, I'm surprised to see the director resorting to tthe kids scattering gag twice in a row, but hey.
posted by dhartung at 9:14 AM on April 24, 2007
The Dead Pool. Which is sort of a parody of car chases, particularly Bullitt, but actually scary.
C'etait un rendez-vous
One of the things to appreciate about car chases, watching these for technique, is how hard it is to make a good one without resorting to gags. You have the truck backing into traffic, you have the lady with the stroller, you have the sidewalk detour, you have the boxes of fruit, you have the pedestrians scattering. Even in the good ones, like French Connection.
French Connection and C'etait... use the camera-low-to-the-ground trick, which makes everything seem faster and every potential collision scarier.
Bullitt cheats, notoriously -- count how many times they pass the green Beetle, or how many hubcaps are lost, and a few shots are sped up. But it has a great narrative tension throughout and the lack of soundtrack beyond car sounds is brilliant. And French Connection has a great -- I call it action logic. Where you always know where somebody is in relation to where you are, it's not just random montage of guys shooting machine guns or whatever. At the end, especially, it works so well because you have a three-dimensional scene.
I love The Dead Pool because it brilliantly uses all the standard gags, like pedestrians scattering. In The Seven-Ups, I'm surprised to see the director resorting to tthe kids scattering gag twice in a row, but hey.
posted by dhartung at 9:14 AM on April 24, 2007
The Rumble in the Bronx chase scene is hillarious if you know Vancouver at all. For the first 3/4 of the movie, the sets are carefully chosen to be Generic North American City locations. This is harder than it sounds in Vancouver, every horizon has the ocean or or a mountain in it.
For the last 1/4 of the movie though, it's like the directors said: "You know what? We've got some of the best scenery in NA here. Screw it!" Mountains and fir trees begin to creap into the backgrounds. The 1990s Vancouver skyscape appears, complete with Science World. They joyfully end on Kits beach with the Cyprus Bowl/Grouse Moutain ski slopes in the background (are there any white sand beaches in downtown New York?). It's one of the best "screw continuity" decisions evar.
posted by bonehead at 9:23 AM on April 24, 2007
For the last 1/4 of the movie though, it's like the directors said: "You know what? We've got some of the best scenery in NA here. Screw it!" Mountains and fir trees begin to creap into the backgrounds. The 1990s Vancouver skyscape appears, complete with Science World. They joyfully end on Kits beach with the Cyprus Bowl/Grouse Moutain ski slopes in the background (are there any white sand beaches in downtown New York?). It's one of the best "screw continuity" decisions evar.
posted by bonehead at 9:23 AM on April 24, 2007
Classic scene in McQueen's 'Bullitt' unreal as ever
Bullitt Locations in San Francisco: April 1968, July 2002
posted by kirkaracha at 9:24 AM on April 24, 2007
Bullitt Locations in San Francisco: April 1968, July 2002
posted by kirkaracha at 9:24 AM on April 24, 2007
muckster typed "Too bad Death Proof was such a disappointment."
Was it really? Say what you will about the silliness of the full 3+ hours, but I dug that chase seen a lot. I wouldn't be ashamed to list it next to Bullitt
Does that make me a tool?
posted by roll truck roll at 9:31 AM on April 24, 2007
Was it really? Say what you will about the silliness of the full 3+ hours, but I dug that chase seen a lot. I wouldn't be ashamed to list it next to Bullitt
Does that make me a tool?
posted by roll truck roll at 9:31 AM on April 24, 2007
And, from real life: Stormchase Scene (this past Saturday, Tulia, TX) where a couple of stormchasers got a wee bit close to the action. Chaser's account (via Stormtrack Forum:
Eric and I were in the Xterra.posted by spock at 9:41 AM on April 24, 2007
We observed four tornadoes tonight including an approximately thirty minute (or longer) tornado that crossed SR 70 and struck homes on the eastern edge of Olton. But the one we’ll always remember was Tulia, where we were struck by the compact but vigorous initial circulation as it entered town.
We were repositioning on the storm and observed what we both agreed was, at the time, an elevated and ragged updraft base. Moments before entering the city, we observed small lowerings but each weakened and the rotation lost focus. When we were in the center of Tulia, neither of us imagined anything like what was about to happen. I was scouting navigational options on StreetAtlas, with my camcorder turned OFF (that’s how nontornadic it appeared at that moment) when Eric shouted “tornado.” Imagine looking over your left shoulder to see, about 100 yards away, a tornado that looked like nothing if not Chuck Doswell’s and Al Moller’s Pampa video: a violent circulation swirling with industrial debris. We accelerated, our ears popping, but the inflow jet tugged us off the road and we came to a stop in front of a small brick building, what might have once been a gas station or a general store. When the tornado reached us, it collapsed the building, blew out our windows, and tipped a parked semi tractor trailer onto the driver side front of Eric’s Xterra. We huddled in the center of the truck and shut our eyes.
When it was over, we climbed out to find a scene straight out of the movies, a wasteland of debris and downed power lines. A police officer passed us and we waved for him to keep going; we didn’t need help and were already feeling the guilt of potentially distracting emergency services. Our friends from OU took us to Amarillo where we’re spending the night.
We’re neither proud nor ashamed of our actions. I’ve taken some calculated risks in ten years of chasing; this wasn’t one of them. We thought we were repositioning between tornadoes. We had talked about how the storm had crossed the baroclinic boundary oriented northwest to southeast and might have become fully outflow dominated. I was wondering if it would produce another tornado at all.
We both regret that it happened, that we put our own lives in jeopardy and threatened to distract emergency personnel. Tonight, I’m glad that I’m alive and uninjured, that my friend is alive and uninjured, and that, from what I have read, the residents of Tulia are mostly safe. I’ll never release the videotape of this incident, publicize or profit from it in any way. If there’s any lesson it might only be that life is precious. We’ve ransacked our minds for the tiny detail or decision that might have kept us safer, and found nothing. What we did I would likely do again, because there seemed nothing unsafe about where we were at the time. Obviously we were wrong. Our choice was a mistake and we paid for it.
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Amos Magliocco
Bullitt cheats, notoriously -- count how many times they pass the green Beetle, or how many hubcaps are lost,
I counted five hubcaps off the lead car when I watched it a year ago or so. They make a mention of that in the commentary for Starsky and Hutch as well.
posted by LionIndex at 10:02 AM on April 24, 2007
I counted five hubcaps off the lead car when I watched it a year ago or so. They make a mention of that in the commentary for Starsky and Hutch as well.
posted by LionIndex at 10:02 AM on April 24, 2007
Move chase scenes: more Wilhelms than a German phone book.
posted by schleppo at 10:04 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by schleppo at 10:04 AM on April 24, 2007
This is far from real life and a large percentage of youth die on the road due to this sort of Romanticism
Won't someone think of the children ?
posted by nola at 10:24 AM on April 24, 2007
Won't someone think of the children ?
posted by nola at 10:24 AM on April 24, 2007
stinkycheese: BTW if you've never seen the original 'Gone In 60 Seconds' (which I still cannot believe was actually remade), check it out. It's pretty insane.
Word.
posted by kosem at 10:36 AM on April 24, 2007
Word.
posted by kosem at 10:36 AM on April 24, 2007
This is far from real life and a large percentage of youth die on the road due to this sort of Romanticism
If you play The French Connection backwards, Satan tells you to flip the Charger.
posted by kosem at 10:44 AM on April 24, 2007
If you play The French Connection backwards, Satan tells you to flip the Charger.
posted by kosem at 10:44 AM on April 24, 2007
The podcast The Hollywood Saloon just did an episode on the greatest chase scenes of all time.
On the episode page, they've compiled pretty much every youtube clip mentioned here as well as a ton more for your viewing pleasure. The episode's a good companion piece to all the clips.
I'm about to embark on my own marathon based on (most of) their recommendations.
posted by unsupervised at 11:06 AM on April 24, 2007
On the episode page, they've compiled pretty much every youtube clip mentioned here as well as a ton more for your viewing pleasure. The episode's a good companion piece to all the clips.
I'm about to embark on my own marathon based on (most of) their recommendations.
posted by unsupervised at 11:06 AM on April 24, 2007
Most of my favorites have already been mentioned; The Blues Brothers is fantastic in it's excess, and the chases from The Road Warrior trilogy are just amazing. Also worth commenting on is the chase from the end of The Dukes of Hazzard; it is an undeniably silly movie, but there was real skill in the way the action was filmed. Also the even more silly The Chase (the Charlie Sheen/ Kristy Swanson one) deserves mention as well, not for any real skill, but in that the the damn 'chase scene' lasts for 7/8ths of the movies running time.
Still the one that I always think of when I think of the best has to go to The Bourne Identity. It's amazing and terrifying and it feels real.
posted by quin at 11:19 AM on April 24, 2007
Still the one that I always think of when I think of the best has to go to The Bourne Identity. It's amazing and terrifying and it feels real.
posted by quin at 11:19 AM on April 24, 2007
Come to think of it, the chase in Metro, while over the top, also had some good moments.
posted by quin at 11:20 AM on April 24, 2007
posted by quin at 11:20 AM on April 24, 2007
A guilty pleasure/personal favorite: the chase in the Dabney Coleman comedy Short Time, which I see is mentioned in the Hollywood Salon podcast.
The brief motorcycle chase in The Great Escape also deserves a mention, if only for the great jump over the fence (not made by Steve McQueen, according to IMDB).
posted by JT at 12:11 PM on April 24, 2007
The brief motorcycle chase in The Great Escape also deserves a mention, if only for the great jump over the fence (not made by Steve McQueen, according to IMDB).
posted by JT at 12:11 PM on April 24, 2007
Some of the modern chase scenes that feature mini-cars were just phenomenal (Bourne, Italian Job). It's as if the directors decided to specifically cripple themselves for shear horse-power so that they could get scenes like launching the car down a flight of steps or hydroplaning through a sewer pipe.
One of my guilty pleasures that hasn't been mentioned yet is Twister. Sure, it's a big digital-effects movie, but when we first saw that in the theater, the sound and fury of that movie were truly amazing. My son was yelling during the opening scene that the movie was "too loud!!!", but no one heard him.
Another guilty pleasure is Enemy of the State. Sure, horrid general cinema, but scenes where Wil Smith fires a shotgun off right in Gene Hackman's face while his arm is on fire ...scenes like that need to be in more movies.
posted by thanotopsis at 12:15 PM on April 24, 2007
One of my guilty pleasures that hasn't been mentioned yet is Twister. Sure, it's a big digital-effects movie, but when we first saw that in the theater, the sound and fury of that movie were truly amazing. My son was yelling during the opening scene that the movie was "too loud!!!", but no one heard him.
Another guilty pleasure is Enemy of the State. Sure, horrid general cinema, but scenes where Wil Smith fires a shotgun off right in Gene Hackman's face while his arm is on fire ...scenes like that need to be in more movies.
posted by thanotopsis at 12:15 PM on April 24, 2007
What, no Diva?
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:29 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by Sticherbeast at 12:29 PM on April 24, 2007
I almost forgot the brutal chase in The Corruptor, although I don't seem to be able to find a clip of it anywhere. Apparently the sequence had to be trimmed in order to avoid an NC-17 rating. Stick it in your Netflix queue; it's worth checking out.
posted by JT at 12:48 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by JT at 12:48 PM on April 24, 2007
He didn't do the big jump in The Great Escape, but Steve McQueen appears as a German motorcyclist chasing Steve McQueen.
posted by kirkaracha at 2:06 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by kirkaracha at 2:06 PM on April 24, 2007
As chase scenes go, the one in Atanarjuat is pretty low-tech but that's precisely what makes it so gripping and memorable.
posted by blogenstock at 3:00 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by blogenstock at 3:00 PM on April 24, 2007
For an example of how much the web has changed, see last summer's AskMe on this. No YouTube links in the thing at all, at all.
posted by cgc373 at 4:17 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by cgc373 at 4:17 PM on April 24, 2007
see last summer's AskMe on this.
Interesting, cgc373. I also noted that among the selections I made for this FPP, the only one mentioned in that AskMe thread was Bullitt. This reinforces my suspicion that many of the younger MeFiers are perhaps not so familiar with 70's cinema, which was part of my rationale for linking to the ones I did here. It's for the children!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:29 PM on April 24, 2007
Interesting, cgc373. I also noted that among the selections I made for this FPP, the only one mentioned in that AskMe thread was Bullitt. This reinforces my suspicion that many of the younger MeFiers are perhaps not so familiar with 70's cinema, which was part of my rationale for linking to the ones I did here. It's for the children!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:29 PM on April 24, 2007
Wait, flapjax at midnite—just Bullitt? The French Connection and The Blues Brothers are in the first half-dozen answers.
posted by cgc373 at 4:45 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by cgc373 at 4:45 PM on April 24, 2007
Not to say I'm not happy to have these links here, 'cuz I am. This is a sweeeet post. With crashes!
posted by cgc373 at 4:46 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by cgc373 at 4:46 PM on April 24, 2007
The French Connection and The Blues Brothers are in the first half-dozen answers.
Aww, hell. I gotta work on my speed reading. How'd I miss those? Sorry...
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:49 PM on April 24, 2007
Aww, hell. I gotta work on my speed reading. How'd I miss those? Sorry...
posted by flapjax at midnite at 4:49 PM on April 24, 2007
not a chase scene, per se, but a must see. no tricks, no stunts, no permits, nothing. watch a short film of a ferrari speeding through paris at the butt crack of dawn.
posted by mano at 4:53 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by mano at 4:53 PM on April 24, 2007
Thanks for the link, mano. I saw that several months back on Google video, where the image quality was, I think, a little better, but it seems to have been removed from there. The man responsible for that, by the way, is French director Claude Lelouch, best known for his distincly non-chase film, A Man and a Woman. This is from the Wikipedia link:
"He was arrested after his 1976 film, C'était un rendez-vous, reportedly at the time featuring a Ferrari 275 GTB being illegally driven at speeds approaching 140mph through the streets of Paris by a Formula 1 driver, was first shown publicly.
Recent claims made by the director himself, however, suggest he drove his own Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 in the film and dubbed the sound effects of a Ferrari 275GTB. Several independent groups have verified that the car in the film never reaches past 140 km/h (85mph)"
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:00 PM on April 24, 2007
"He was arrested after his 1976 film, C'était un rendez-vous, reportedly at the time featuring a Ferrari 275 GTB being illegally driven at speeds approaching 140mph through the streets of Paris by a Formula 1 driver, was first shown publicly.
Recent claims made by the director himself, however, suggest he drove his own Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9 in the film and dubbed the sound effects of a Ferrari 275GTB. Several independent groups have verified that the car in the film never reaches past 140 km/h (85mph)"
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:00 PM on April 24, 2007
flapjax, gotta work on my speed reading, indeed. You got at least two links to C'était un rendez-vous already in this thread, pre-mano.
Why I feel compelled to point out these things, I cannot say. Perhaps it is my total lack of vowels in-username. Or perhaps some other reason.
posted by cgc373 at 5:33 PM on April 24, 2007
Why I feel compelled to point out these things, I cannot say. Perhaps it is my total lack of vowels in-username. Or perhaps some other reason.
posted by cgc373 at 5:33 PM on April 24, 2007
You got at least two links to C'était un rendez-vous already in this thread
Oh, christ, I give up! My brain is malfunctioning today. I'm gonna go back to bed.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:46 PM on April 24, 2007
Oh, christ, I give up! My brain is malfunctioning today. I'm gonna go back to bed.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:46 PM on April 24, 2007
Oh dear god, you're sure those aren't miss lynnster's?
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:53 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:53 PM on April 24, 2007
I seem to recall a horror type movie of the 80s genre where they put the blood of a murderer in an ordinary guy... wasn't there a chase scene that involved a man handcuffed between two cars? I loved that scene.
posted by furtive at 6:57 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by furtive at 6:57 PM on April 24, 2007
...or was it a hand transplant. geez my memory isn't what it used to be.
posted by furtive at 6:59 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by furtive at 6:59 PM on April 24, 2007
...or was it a hand transplant. geez my memory isn't what it used to be.
posted by furtive at 6:59 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by furtive at 6:59 PM on April 24, 2007
roll chuck roll -- you nailed it: that chase scene in Death Proof is, I would say, the best I have ever seen...and look, Ma, no wires (or computers)!
posted by mapalm at 7:42 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by mapalm at 7:42 PM on April 24, 2007
Seconding Way of the Gun's slow, thoughtful chase scene. Wish I could find it online — it's a nice one, and quite unique.
posted by rafter at 7:54 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by rafter at 7:54 PM on April 24, 2007
I'd like to think I'm too smart to be a chase scene nut, but damn I love a good chase scene. For my money they get no better than French Connection, Ronin, and 7-Ups. Hell, I even like a mediocre chase scene.
posted by Slack-a-gogo at 8:22 PM on April 24, 2007
posted by Slack-a-gogo at 8:22 PM on April 24, 2007
No To Live and Die in LA? You fail at chase scenes!
Yes! I became OBSESSED with this movie, and have seen it many, many times. The chase scene and the other stunts get better as the years go by, as they represent the pinnacle of real, pre-digital movie stunts.
Digital effects emasculated movies, and suck donkey balls.
To Live and Die in LA; the greatest movie of all time...
posted by Tube at 8:42 PM on April 24, 2007
Yes! I became OBSESSED with this movie, and have seen it many, many times. The chase scene and the other stunts get better as the years go by, as they represent the pinnacle of real, pre-digital movie stunts.
Digital effects emasculated movies, and suck donkey balls.
To Live and Die in LA; the greatest movie of all time...
posted by Tube at 8:42 PM on April 24, 2007
To Live and Die in L.A. should have made William L. Petersen a star. Instead, it made him a dependable B actor. Such is fate.
I forgot to mention The Chase myself. It's pretty funny, it has Anthony Kiedis and Flea, it deftly parodies the media circus of the LA car chase, and it came out before the O.J. Simpson chase. And Sheen does a bangup after-credits parody of a certain Apocalypse Now monologue.
I'd like to think I'm too smart to be a chase scene nut, but damn I love a good chase scene.
No, no, no, there is nothing wrong with being a chase scene nut. Chase scenes at their best are masterpieces of stuntwork, location shooting, and editing, and when well placed (and paced) may contribute heavily to characterization and narrative. It is perfectly possible to be an intelligent fan of action cinema and its tropes. Feel no guilt. Now, get out of the way, there's a fastback on the sidewalk.
Another film engineered around a chase is Where Eagles Dare. Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton escape from a full-complement Nazi hilltop fortress using mainly their wits and hella machine-gun ammo. The main dish is a series of incidents using an aerial tramway, but the race to the airport in a schoolbus followed closely by the usual Nazi vehicular suspects (a Kubelwagen, a sidecar motorcycle, etc.), with every step prepared, is plenty gripping on its own. Then, of course, it turns out that the chase isn't the thing the movie's about, after all. Quite possibly my favorite action movie.
I would also like to nominate the underrated James Bond films On Her Majesty's Secret Service and The Living Daylights. OHMSS has an extended middle section that is basically three separate chase sequences. George Lazenby is no Connery but you do sense his humanity and fear. Plus, the soundtrack is one of the best. TLD is Timothy Dalton's first and best outing, and despite using a script written for Moore, manages to bring 007 back down to earth. The "chase" sequence I have in mind is his and Kara's escape from the Russian army base, in which among other things Bond finds he cannot move the plane he is trying to hijack because the wheels are chocked. It is infinitely more engrossing dramatically to have the hero facing a legitimate (even literal) obstacle than to mix up your chase scene by giving the villain(s) a series of bathetic trip gags. I wish more directors understood this. Also, the best boat chase in the movies is undoubtedly Live and Let Die.
posted by dhartung at 12:02 AM on April 25, 2007
I forgot to mention The Chase myself. It's pretty funny, it has Anthony Kiedis and Flea, it deftly parodies the media circus of the LA car chase, and it came out before the O.J. Simpson chase. And Sheen does a bangup after-credits parody of a certain Apocalypse Now monologue.
I'd like to think I'm too smart to be a chase scene nut, but damn I love a good chase scene.
No, no, no, there is nothing wrong with being a chase scene nut. Chase scenes at their best are masterpieces of stuntwork, location shooting, and editing, and when well placed (and paced) may contribute heavily to characterization and narrative. It is perfectly possible to be an intelligent fan of action cinema and its tropes. Feel no guilt. Now, get out of the way, there's a fastback on the sidewalk.
Another film engineered around a chase is Where Eagles Dare. Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton escape from a full-complement Nazi hilltop fortress using mainly their wits and hella machine-gun ammo. The main dish is a series of incidents using an aerial tramway, but the race to the airport in a schoolbus followed closely by the usual Nazi vehicular suspects (a Kubelwagen, a sidecar motorcycle, etc.), with every step prepared, is plenty gripping on its own. Then, of course, it turns out that the chase isn't the thing the movie's about, after all. Quite possibly my favorite action movie.
I would also like to nominate the underrated James Bond films On Her Majesty's Secret Service and The Living Daylights. OHMSS has an extended middle section that is basically three separate chase sequences. George Lazenby is no Connery but you do sense his humanity and fear. Plus, the soundtrack is one of the best. TLD is Timothy Dalton's first and best outing, and despite using a script written for Moore, manages to bring 007 back down to earth. The "chase" sequence I have in mind is his and Kara's escape from the Russian army base, in which among other things Bond finds he cannot move the plane he is trying to hijack because the wheels are chocked. It is infinitely more engrossing dramatically to have the hero facing a legitimate (even literal) obstacle than to mix up your chase scene by giving the villain(s) a series of bathetic trip gags. I wish more directors understood this. Also, the best boat chase in the movies is undoubtedly Live and Let Die.
posted by dhartung at 12:02 AM on April 25, 2007
Lot of great chase scenes on the thread - I always did love that one out of The Dead Pool.
I'd like to add the chase scene in the opening minutes of Casino Royale. As well as the chase on the tarmac in Miami. I just hope they keep cranking out the kind of script writing for the future Bond films as they did for this one; Craig makes a helluva Bond.
And the chase scene on the freeway in Matrix Reloaded... there's always one thing that makes it not work for me. Specifically how does that Ducati not flat out disappear from any other vehicle on that roadway? Instead the agents are keeping right up with Trinity in a plain Jane car. That bike is capable of outrunning almost any other vehicle in the scene without leaving 2nd gear. 3rd gear if it's a really fast car.
posted by azpenguin at 2:08 AM on April 25, 2007
I'd like to add the chase scene in the opening minutes of Casino Royale. As well as the chase on the tarmac in Miami. I just hope they keep cranking out the kind of script writing for the future Bond films as they did for this one; Craig makes a helluva Bond.
And the chase scene on the freeway in Matrix Reloaded... there's always one thing that makes it not work for me. Specifically how does that Ducati not flat out disappear from any other vehicle on that roadway? Instead the agents are keeping right up with Trinity in a plain Jane car. That bike is capable of outrunning almost any other vehicle in the scene without leaving 2nd gear. 3rd gear if it's a really fast car.
posted by azpenguin at 2:08 AM on April 25, 2007
You see that all the time in chase scenes. It's most obvious in motorcycle-car chases but it never ceases to amaze me that the heros in whatever hot wheels they are driving can't seem to shake the lackadaisical crown vics pursuing them. It almost made sense in the 70's when the cops might have been piloting a '69 Polara Pursuit (375 bhp 440, sleek "fuselage" bodystyle, and standard 3.23 axle, could do 0-60 in 6.3 seconds, the quarter mile in 14.3 seconds (at over 99 mph), and run out to a top speed of (or, by some accounts, above) 147 mph!) or 68 Polara 440 Squad. I guess it's all about 16 second drivers in 10 second cars.
posted by Mitheral at 8:56 AM on April 25, 2007
posted by Mitheral at 8:56 AM on April 25, 2007
Mmm, chase sequences.
Regarding Death Proof:
I really like it. But then, I'm a sucker for Tarantino, so... Yeah.
While it was an abrupt shift in energy level coming off the manic high of Planet Terror, the first third of the movie (the talky, slow part not everyone likes) did manage to trick me into caring about the girls Stuntman Mike kills. In fact, I'm somehwat glad I never remember my dreams as I'm certain that some of that car crash's imagery would be figuring in them prominently for a while.
But the slow first part is more than paid off by 1) a really fucking sweet chase scene (like "best I've seen in years and years level goodness) and 2) the hilarious and awesome turning of the tables on the bad guy.
posted by sparkletone at 10:38 PM on April 25, 2007
Regarding Death Proof:
I really like it. But then, I'm a sucker for Tarantino, so... Yeah.
While it was an abrupt shift in energy level coming off the manic high of Planet Terror, the first third of the movie (the talky, slow part not everyone likes) did manage to trick me into caring about the girls Stuntman Mike kills. In fact, I'm somehwat glad I never remember my dreams as I'm certain that some of that car crash's imagery would be figuring in them prominently for a while.
But the slow first part is more than paid off by 1) a really fucking sweet chase scene (like "best I've seen in years and years level goodness) and 2) the hilarious and awesome turning of the tables on the bad guy.
posted by sparkletone at 10:38 PM on April 25, 2007
Specifically how does that Ducati not flat out disappear from any other vehicle on that roadway? Instead the agents are keeping right up with Trinity in a plain Jane car. That bike is capable of outrunning almost any other vehicle in the scene without leaving 2nd gear. 3rd gear if it's a really fast car.
In the parlance of Counter Strike: ZOMG HAX.
posted by sparkletone at 10:42 PM on April 25, 2007
In the parlance of Counter Strike: ZOMG HAX.
posted by sparkletone at 10:42 PM on April 25, 2007
Animated chase scene. It's better in the original Japanese.
posted by Pseudonumb at 11:22 PM on April 25, 2007
posted by Pseudonumb at 11:22 PM on April 25, 2007
...Specifically how does that Ducati not flat out disappear from any other vehicle on that roadway?
...You see that all the time in chase scenes.
This simple thing has bugged me for years. My first vehicle, in point of fact, the thing I learned how to use a manual transmission on, was a '72 Honda CB500. It was old when I got it, (read as, needed constant work) and yet, even as decrepit as it was, I could pull away off the start from any hot car or clever truck that cared to pull up next to me.
I could never understand why a director would choose to use a scene that had a motorcycle, even an old one, unable to shake a car pursuer.
I mean, in my movie, the guy on the bike gets away. Unless the car has the good sense to ram him, that is.
I like a good chase scene as much as the next person, but I can't ignore the reality of car vs. bike.
Bike wins the race, but car wins the demolition derby. It's just the way these things work.
posted by quin at 11:36 PM on April 25, 2007
...You see that all the time in chase scenes.
This simple thing has bugged me for years. My first vehicle, in point of fact, the thing I learned how to use a manual transmission on, was a '72 Honda CB500. It was old when I got it, (read as, needed constant work) and yet, even as decrepit as it was, I could pull away off the start from any hot car or clever truck that cared to pull up next to me.
I could never understand why a director would choose to use a scene that had a motorcycle, even an old one, unable to shake a car pursuer.
I mean, in my movie, the guy on the bike gets away. Unless the car has the good sense to ram him, that is.
I like a good chase scene as much as the next person, but I can't ignore the reality of car vs. bike.
Bike wins the race, but car wins the demolition derby. It's just the way these things work.
posted by quin at 11:36 PM on April 25, 2007
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Some information regarding routes and such:
Bullitt and more Bullitt
The French Connection
The Blues Brothers
and here's a handy, exhaustive reference for chase scenes:
Greatest Classic Chase Scenes
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