Kinda Ironic
March 8, 2010 12:37 PM Subscribe
"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada." - Sarah Palin in a recent speech in Alberta, CA. This is not the first time she's made some interesting remarks re: Canada's healthcare system.
This post was deleted for the following reason: Sarah Palin opens mouth. This is pretty thin for a post without something a lot more substantial going on. -- cortex
~fart~
posted by mr_crash_davis mark II: Jazz Odyssey at 12:40 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by mr_crash_davis mark II: Jazz Odyssey at 12:40 PM on March 8, 2010
PALIN: We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic?
I think the word you're looking for here Sarah is hypocritical.
posted by mach at 12:42 PM on March 8, 2010 [18 favorites]
I think the word you're looking for here Sarah is hypocritical.
posted by mach at 12:42 PM on March 8, 2010 [18 favorites]
To be fair, at the time, she thought Canada was the 51st state in the union.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:44 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:44 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Given all the cashing-in she's been doing, I found her use of the word "hustle" more revealing than she may have intended.
posted by Joe Beese at 12:44 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by Joe Beese at 12:44 PM on March 8, 2010
Sarah Palin's right: we need to get rid of all of these damn socialists. We should start with Sarah Palin.
posted by Consonants Without Vowels at 12:44 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by Consonants Without Vowels at 12:44 PM on March 8, 2010
She admitted she didn't know a lot about Ms. Palin's politics, but she said she loves her nonetheless.
This seems to be a theme.
posted by jckll at 12:45 PM on March 8, 2010 [6 favorites]
This seems to be a theme.
posted by jckll at 12:45 PM on March 8, 2010 [6 favorites]
This show was pretty good when it started but the writers have just gotten lazy. It's simply not believable any more, even as satire.
posted by dirtdirt at 12:45 PM on March 8, 2010 [11 favorites]
posted by dirtdirt at 12:45 PM on March 8, 2010 [11 favorites]
She could pretty much see Canada from her house, eh?
posted by fixedgear at 12:45 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by fixedgear at 12:45 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
You think that's ironic? Does anyone remember this: Nelson went on to refer to himself as "a fiscally responsible grandfather" and said he's being roped into paying for government programs he doesn't believe in. "I've been on welfare and food stamps...did anyone help me?" Nelson said, perhaps not realizing that welfare and food stamps are actually forms of government aid.
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 12:48 PM on March 8, 2010 [10 favorites]
posted by (Arsenio) Hall and (Warren) Oates at 12:48 PM on March 8, 2010 [10 favorites]
I cannot find a text of the speech online. I notice that a number of news reports about the speech mention her flaunting her Canadian ancestry in the speech: about half of the reports I have read say that she said two of her great-grandfathers were Canadian and half mention without comment that she said both of her great-grandfathers were from Canada. If the latter comment is accurate, then either she does not know what the word "both" means, she cannot count as high as four, or her parents were siblings. Much is thereby explained.
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:49 PM on March 8, 2010 [5 favorites]
posted by ricochet biscuit at 12:49 PM on March 8, 2010 [5 favorites]
A fan, she said, had sent her a biblical passage. Isaiah 49:16 reads: "See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are ever before me."
"Hey, if it was good enough for God, scribbling on the palm of his hand, it's good enough for me, for us. He says, in that passage he says, I wrote your name on the palm of my hand to remember you. And I'm like OK, I'm in good company," Palin said to laughter.
posted by stavrogin at 12:50 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
"Hey, if it was good enough for God, scribbling on the palm of his hand, it's good enough for me, for us. He says, in that passage he says, I wrote your name on the palm of my hand to remember you. And I'm like OK, I'm in good company," Palin said to laughter.
posted by stavrogin at 12:50 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
You are fucking kidding me. I might have voted for her if it wasn't brought to my attention today that she was morally, rhetorically and politically bankrupt.
posted by MuffinMan at 12:50 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by MuffinMan at 12:50 PM on March 8, 2010
She's a hustler, baby!
I just want you to know
posted by cashman at 12:51 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
I just want you to know
posted by cashman at 12:51 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Bull shit. Our death panels would have put her out of her brain-dead misery.
posted by gman at 12:53 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by gman at 12:53 PM on March 8, 2010
proj: "Is this a good FPP?"
Well, it shines a light on the continuing inequities of the for-profit health care model and OH WHO ARE WE KIDDING PALIN SUCKS AMIRITE?
posted by Joe Beese at 12:53 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Well, it shines a light on the continuing inequities of the for-profit health care model and OH WHO ARE WE KIDDING PALIN SUCKS AMIRITE?
posted by Joe Beese at 12:53 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Ah, yes. Calgary.
We've got a new (provincial) health minister, and he doesn't seem to be too 'in tune' with the less gov. message. It appears to be 'throw money at the problem' time.
I wish they'd pend the moneys intelligently, rather than just spend it. This is more the fault of Capital Health than anything else though, who try to get it spent before the cash is pulled back.
posted by LD Feral at 12:56 PM on March 8, 2010
We've got a new (provincial) health minister, and he doesn't seem to be too 'in tune' with the less gov. message. It appears to be 'throw money at the problem' time.
I wish they'd pend the moneys intelligently, rather than just spend it. This is more the fault of Capital Health than anything else though, who try to get it spent before the cash is pulled back.
posted by LD Feral at 12:56 PM on March 8, 2010
like so many other people i know, she only thinks about what's good for her - and in a separate mental box, thinks about what's good public policy - if the two conflict, her wants will come first over her political philosophy
i'm not sure that makes her a hypocrite though, as a hypocrite would actually have to put the two ideas together and consider how they conflict
that makes some people so uncomfortable they back away from even considering it
posted by pyramid termite at 1:00 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
i'm not sure that makes her a hypocrite though, as a hypocrite would actually have to put the two ideas together and consider how they conflict
that makes some people so uncomfortable they back away from even considering it
posted by pyramid termite at 1:00 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Well, once she's elected President, she can invade Canada and set those socialists straight.
posted by Thorzdad at 1:01 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by Thorzdad at 1:01 PM on March 8, 2010
This harshes my general life-buzz.
posted by The Whelk at 1:02 PM on March 8, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 1:02 PM on March 8, 2010 [2 favorites]
This is right up there with Limbaugh being on welfare, then being addicted to drugs. And just like Limbaugh this will affect nothing for the people that follow her.
It is truly bizarre that Republicans bleat about personal responsibility in poor people, but seem to slide that standard on by when it comes to the demagogues that they love. Maybe it's all tied up in christian redemption theology or something, I don't know.
But it makes my knuckles itch because it's the kind of thing that can let events like Roy Ashburn being arrested for driving drunk on the way home from a gay bar slide right through the gay marriage debate.
posted by lumpenprole at 1:04 PM on March 8, 2010 [4 favorites]
It is truly bizarre that Republicans bleat about personal responsibility in poor people, but seem to slide that standard on by when it comes to the demagogues that they love. Maybe it's all tied up in christian redemption theology or something, I don't know.
But it makes my knuckles itch because it's the kind of thing that can let events like Roy Ashburn being arrested for driving drunk on the way home from a gay bar slide right through the gay marriage debate.
posted by lumpenprole at 1:04 PM on March 8, 2010 [4 favorites]
We've got a new (provincial) health minister, and he doesn't seem to be too 'in tune' with the less gov. message. It appears to be 'throw money at the problem' time.
Not to mention a $1.2 Billion South Hospital that won't have enough nurses or doctors to staff the first floor.
posted by chugg at 1:05 PM on March 8, 2010
Not to mention a $1.2 Billion South Hospital that won't have enough nurses or doctors to staff the first floor.
posted by chugg at 1:05 PM on March 8, 2010
like Roy Ashburn being arrested for driving drunk on the way home from a gay bar slide right through the gay marriage debate.
Nobody any went broke banking on people's inability to put two and two together.
posted by The Whelk at 1:09 PM on March 8, 2010 [2 favorites]
Nobody any went broke banking on people's inability to put two and two together.
posted by The Whelk at 1:09 PM on March 8, 2010 [2 favorites]
So socialized medicine is ok when it benefits her and her family huh? I guess such hypocrisy shouldn't seem that odd from someone who denounces Hollywood in one breath and cleans out the gift bags at the Oscar parties the next.
posted by quin at 1:15 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by quin at 1:15 PM on March 8, 2010
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's like hustling over the border for health care in Canada with no co-pay
posted by Joey Michaels at 1:17 PM on March 8, 2010 [6 favorites]
It's like hustling over the border for health care in Canada with no co-pay
posted by Joey Michaels at 1:17 PM on March 8, 2010 [6 favorites]
The other day I was getting my oil changed and I heard a caller on talk radio say "As a right-wing Republican, I pray every night that Sarah Palin runs for President in 2012!" And I was like: that's funny, as a liberal Democrat I *also* pray that she runs for President...
posted by Ian A.T. at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
posted by Ian A.T. at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
Yeah that gift bag story is a wicked pisser. I hope they (Palin & co.) realize they are required to pay federal income tax on those items.
posted by Mister_A at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Mister_A at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
She knows firsthand the abuse a Universal Health Care system will suffer at the hands of unscrupulous foreigners.
posted by mazola at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by mazola at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010
Not to mention a $1.2 Billion South Hospital that won't have enough nurses or doctors to staff the first floor
Nor to mention the new Mazankowski heart center, which is currently in use as a warehouse, because many of the elevators are not large enough to admit stretchers.
It's more fun to mutter dire imprecations.
posted by LD Feral at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010
Nor to mention the new Mazankowski heart center, which is currently in use as a warehouse, because many of the elevators are not large enough to admit stretchers.
It's more fun to mutter dire imprecations.
posted by LD Feral at 1:18 PM on March 8, 2010
This is in perfect accordance with the only two principles that Sarah Palin has ever gone by, as far as I can tell:
1) She tells people what she thinks they want to hear. She's speaking to Canadians, she talks up Canada. Yeah, maybe she said something different on her Facebook or whatever, but they're the ones who are paying her a minimum of $100K to speak tonight. Accuse whomever might point out a possible discrepancy of playing "gotcha" journalism and move on.
2) Maximum perks for minimum work. She would have been perfectly happy with government health care if, heaven help us, she'd won the Vice-Presidency. She didn't hesitate to get her grandson covered by the Indian Health Service on the basis of her husband's single native great-grandmother.
posted by Halloween Jack at 1:24 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
1) She tells people what she thinks they want to hear. She's speaking to Canadians, she talks up Canada. Yeah, maybe she said something different on her Facebook or whatever, but they're the ones who are paying her a minimum of $100K to speak tonight. Accuse whomever might point out a possible discrepancy of playing "gotcha" journalism and move on.
2) Maximum perks for minimum work. She would have been perfectly happy with government health care if, heaven help us, she'd won the Vice-Presidency. She didn't hesitate to get her grandson covered by the Indian Health Service on the basis of her husband's single native great-grandmother.
posted by Halloween Jack at 1:24 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
One more plank in my boardwalk of proof that people who oppose "Canada style" evil communo-fascistic-socialism marxism-ist(ism)... just don't know yet that they deep down actually support it intrinsically..
And are just following some incredibally ridiculous ironic and outdated party line, rather than thinking about how 'they' should behave as members of a community, in a civil society.
Canada has five rules for health club..
1Public administration
2Comprehensiveness
3Universality
4Portability
5Accessibility.
(oh, and 'don't tell the yanks about how awesome health-club is...,' That's number six.)
Ensured and managed by this mechanism.
transfer payments, from Federal-->state (province) already happen in the USA, why not jump them into action for a good cause like caring for the weakest and least cared for amongst us.
posted by infinite intimation at 1:25 PM on March 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
And are just following some incredibally ridiculous
Canada has five rules for health club..
1Public administration
2Comprehensiveness
3Universality
4Portability
5Accessibility.
(oh, and 'don't tell the yanks about how awesome health-club is...,' That's number six.)
Ensured and managed by this mechanism.
transfer payments, from Federal-->state (province) already happen in the USA, why not jump them into action for a good cause like caring for the weakest and least cared for amongst us.
posted by infinite intimation at 1:25 PM on March 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
And I was like: that's funny, as a liberal Democrat I *also* pray that she runs for President...
By assuming that she could never be elected if she got that far, you are grossly underestimating both the stupidity of the American public. Do you think she's much dumber or measurably less charismatic than Ronald Reagan?
posted by Mayor Curley at 1:26 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
By assuming that she could never be elected if she got that far, you are grossly underestimating both the stupidity of the American public. Do you think she's much dumber or measurably less charismatic than Ronald Reagan?
posted by Mayor Curley at 1:26 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
If there were not a Sarah Palin, it would be necessary to invent one.
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:27 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:27 PM on March 8, 2010
Q: Can you see Russian from Alaska?
A: Yes, if you obtain excellent free vision care from Canada first.
posted by davejay at 1:28 PM on March 8, 2010 [4 favorites]
A: Yes, if you obtain excellent free vision care from Canada first.
posted by davejay at 1:28 PM on March 8, 2010 [4 favorites]
Yes, she is dumber, less charismatic, more abrasive, more divisive, and less believable than Ronald Reagan.
posted by Mister_A at 1:28 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by Mister_A at 1:28 PM on March 8, 2010
Is Sarah Palin a historical mistake (by McCain) on the order Lincoln-McClellan or let's invade Russia this winter?
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
Can we please stop pretending that anything this woman says or does is relevant?
posted by chrisamiller at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by chrisamiller at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Now she's 'palin' around with Canadians... why won't she disown them? I'm not saying she IS a canadian... I'm just asking why she won't renounce and reject their ways...
posted by infinite intimation at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by infinite intimation at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
Sarah Palin - what a retard.
(It's a joke.)
(Just like her.)
posted by Benny Andajetz at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
(It's a joke.)
(Just like her.)
posted by Benny Andajetz at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
By assuming that she could never be elected if she got that far, you are grossly underestimating both the stupidity of the American public. Do you think she's much dumber or measurably less charismatic than Ronald Reagan?
Yes and yes
posted by uri at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
Yes and yes
posted by uri at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
If nominated, she will lose in a landslide because she scares the crap out of 2/3 of the American electorate.
posted by Mister_A at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
posted by Mister_A at 1:29 PM on March 8, 2010
"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada." - Sarah Palin
When I read this in the Globe and Mail yesterday, I couldn't quite figure out how she could say this, and then in the next breath denigrate healthcare reform, and I'm glad someone else was able to pick up on this.
She's so pro-Canada that she's using a famous Canadian's definition of the word "ironic."
Heh, I thought the same thing, but then thought that perhaps I had drunk too much red wine and had a hangover, causing me to lose the ability to understand printed words and just want the Palin G/M story was all about.
Bizarre.
posted by KokuRyu at 1:31 PM on March 8, 2010
When I read this in the Globe and Mail yesterday, I couldn't quite figure out how she could say this, and then in the next breath denigrate healthcare reform, and I'm glad someone else was able to pick up on this.
She's so pro-Canada that she's using a famous Canadian's definition of the word "ironic."
Heh, I thought the same thing, but then thought that perhaps I had drunk too much red wine and had a hangover, causing me to lose the ability to understand printed words and just want the Palin G/M story was all about.
Bizarre.
posted by KokuRyu at 1:31 PM on March 8, 2010
Can we please stop pretending that anything this woman says or does is relevant?
Can we please keep noting each time she shows just how ridiculous she is, so that she can't fly under the radar gathering followers with no mention of this type of foolishness?
posted by cashman at 1:32 PM on March 8, 2010
Can we please keep noting each time she shows just how ridiculous she is, so that she can't fly under the radar gathering followers with no mention of this type of foolishness?
posted by cashman at 1:32 PM on March 8, 2010
I have not seen Palin's speech, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the double-wide trailer that it bought, and it is terrific.
posted by benzenedream at 1:33 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by benzenedream at 1:33 PM on March 8, 2010 [1 favorite]
Do you think she's much dumber or measurably less charismatic than Ronald Reagan?
I'm no Reagan expert, and I never met him, but... YES, as measurably less charismatic as is possibly measurable.
posted by kingbenny at 1:33 PM on March 8, 2010
I'm no Reagan expert, and I never met him, but... YES, as measurably less charismatic as is possibly measurable.
posted by kingbenny at 1:33 PM on March 8, 2010
By assuming that she could never be elected if she got that far, you are grossly underestimating both the stupidity of the American public. Do you think she's much dumber or measurably less charismatic than Ronald Reagan?
If all the truly stupid people voted for her, she still wouldn't have enough votes to win.( Not yet, anyway.)
posted by Benny Andajetz at 1:34 PM on March 8, 2010
If all the truly stupid people voted for her, she still wouldn't have enough votes to win.( Not yet, anyway.)
posted by Benny Andajetz at 1:34 PM on March 8, 2010
kingbenny, it is possible to have a charisma score lower than zero, although this range is generally not open to player characters (PC) like Sarah the Palin.
posted by Mister_A at 1:35 PM on March 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
posted by Mister_A at 1:35 PM on March 8, 2010 [3 favorites]
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