America is done and dusted
September 13, 2010 7:52 PM Subscribe
When I say America is done and dusted, I'm saying 1776 to 2008. It's over with. It's done with done. From Mexico to Canada, there will be only pieces. How many states are bankrupt already? They can't afford to turn on the lights or fix the roads. They can't afford to teach the children. There's nothing there anymore. It's an empty shell.
Sorry to link to WND. Max Keiser is the creator of the Hollywood Stock Exchange (previously), Karmabanque (previously) and a broadcaster on Iran's PressTV. He is the former host of The Oracle on BBC (here's a clip with Alec Baldwin as guest).
Sorry to link to WND. Max Keiser is the creator of the Hollywood Stock Exchange (previously), Karmabanque (previously) and a broadcaster on Iran's PressTV. He is the former host of The Oracle on BBC (here's a clip with Alec Baldwin as guest).
This post was deleted for the following reason: "We really shouldn't be driving traffic to that asshat." -- jessamyn
The article is on birther-mothership WorldNetDaily, but the author is employed by their sworn enemy Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Clearly if these two forces are finally co-operating, the inflammatory op-ed must be true!
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 8:00 PM on September 13, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94 at 8:00 PM on September 13, 2010 [2 favorites]
In 1969, there was the remarkable achievement of the moon landing, the New York Jets won the Super Bowl and the New York Mets won the World Series. It was a historic achievement taking place in the same year as two major teams from America's largest city having the ultimate sports success.
Crank cranking on cranky cranksite.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:02 PM on September 13, 2010 [2 favorites]
Crank cranking on cranky cranksite.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 8:02 PM on September 13, 2010 [2 favorites]
Really? Vox Day is a FPP? Really?
posted by T.D. Strange at 8:06 PM on September 13, 2010 [5 favorites]
posted by T.D. Strange at 8:06 PM on September 13, 2010 [5 favorites]
So buy gold, AMIRITE?
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:07 PM on September 13, 2010 [5 favorites]
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:07 PM on September 13, 2010 [5 favorites]
His key argument is that housing is worth 0. Think about that for a second. Even if the economy were to collapse to the point where we trade sacks of beans for chickens, the walls that are standing and the roof over our head will be worth something. No where near the pre-bubble values, but land ownership and walls and a roof with windows and a warm bed are worth something.
posted by msbutah at 8:07 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by msbutah at 8:07 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
I disagree with his Christian libertarian policy, but I agree with his things are royally screwed up policy.
posted by Trochanter at 8:08 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by Trochanter at 8:08 PM on September 13, 2010
So this is something to not worry about? Or it is something to worry about? Or only a little bit?
posted by turgid dahlia at 8:08 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by turgid dahlia at 8:08 PM on September 13, 2010
YOU DUMB-ASS, EARTH, THE UNIVERSE
AND EVERY LIVING THING IN IT
EXISTS BETWEEN A TOP AND BOTTOM, BETWEEN A FRONT AND BACK, BETWEEN OPPOSITE SIDES,
AND INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. A LL YOU DUMB EVIL BASTARDS EARN
A HOLOCAUST AND IT IS NIGH UPON YOU.
posted by Threeway Handshake at 8:09 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
AND EVERY LIVING THING IN IT
EXISTS BETWEEN A TOP AND BOTTOM, BETWEEN A FRONT AND BACK, BETWEEN OPPOSITE SIDES,
AND INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. A LL YOU DUMB EVIL BASTARDS EARN
A HOLOCAUST AND IT IS NIGH UPON YOU.
posted by Threeway Handshake at 8:09 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
Vox Day: Yes, I’d Totally Kill Toddlers
Never forget.
posted by T.D. Strange at 8:14 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
Never forget.
posted by T.D. Strange at 8:14 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
I can't find a number for Total US Citizens but lets say 2/3rds of the 300+ million population are citizens then 1 in 700000 citizens renouncing their citizenship annually doesn't seem like a significant indicator of anything. I do wonder what percentage of that 700 doesn't fit into one of crazy rich tax dodger; convicted criminal avoiding extradition; hard core anarchist; or religious extremist cohort.
posted by Mitheral at 8:15 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by Mitheral at 8:15 PM on September 13, 2010
Peak America was in 1969. Some might argue for other times, but the Peak America moment is still now behind us [...] In 1969, there was the remarkable achievement of the moon landing, the New York Jets won the Super Bowl and the New York Mets won the World Series. It was a historic achievement taking place in the same year as two major teams from America's largest city having the ultimate sports success.
Really? Peak America predates basically the entire modern gay rights movement (Stonewall was in '69), most of the biggest advances women have made in working toward social and economic parity, and massive (though incomplete) improvements in racial equality? That's Peak America?
(and no shit "Peak America" is behind us. It's really hard to argue, in 2010, that 2030 was better than the latter part of the 2050s because, while we hadn't yet cured cancer, we had better relations with the people of Europa and the Internet still existed.
To put on my nationalist/patriot hat for a moment, you can't have Peak America because America is a renewable fucking resource.
posted by Tomorrowful at 8:16 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
Really? Peak America predates basically the entire modern gay rights movement (Stonewall was in '69), most of the biggest advances women have made in working toward social and economic parity, and massive (though incomplete) improvements in racial equality? That's Peak America?
(and no shit "Peak America" is behind us. It's really hard to argue, in 2010, that 2030 was better than the latter part of the 2050s because, while we hadn't yet cured cancer, we had better relations with the people of Europa and the Internet still existed.
To put on my nationalist/patriot hat for a moment, you can't have Peak America because America is a renewable fucking resource.
posted by Tomorrowful at 8:16 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
700 People
Samuel Steward, libertine extraordinaire (NSFW) supposed fucked 804 men over his lifetime. So ...there.
posted by The Whelk at 8:18 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
Samuel Steward, libertine extraordinaire (NSFW) supposed fucked 804 men over his lifetime. So ...there.
posted by The Whelk at 8:18 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
Google Rupaul!
posted by Balisong at 8:19 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
posted by Balisong at 8:19 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
Nation Once Again Comes Under Sway Of Pink-Faced Half-Wit
posted by peppito at 8:20 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by peppito at 8:20 PM on September 13, 2010
Google Rupaul!
America, you better work.
posted by The Whelk at 8:22 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
America, you better work.
posted by The Whelk at 8:22 PM on September 13, 2010 [4 favorites]
Peak America predates basically the entire modern gay rights movement (Stonewall was in '69), most of the biggest advances women have made in working toward social and economic parity, and massive (though incomplete) improvements in racial equality? That's Peak America?
it is if you're a white christian libertarian
posted by pyramid termite at 8:26 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
it is if you're a white christian libertarian
posted by pyramid termite at 8:26 PM on September 13, 2010 [1 favorite]
So buy gold, AMIRITE?
posted by Joey Michaels
Get with the times, silver is where its at. When I went to the site I got a sidebar ad for a colloidal silver inhaler. This why the real nutcases are so great, they always exceed the limits of parody.
posted by 445supermag at 8:27 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by Joey Michaels
Get with the times, silver is where its at. When I went to the site I got a sidebar ad for a colloidal silver inhaler. This why the real nutcases are so great, they always exceed the limits of parody.
posted by 445supermag at 8:27 PM on September 13, 2010
I see a lot of conjecture in that piece but not a lot of facts, not to mention (as noted above) a bias that's rather suspect. True, the facts do bear out that things are bad in America right now. But done and dusted? History suggests that this is a country that does its very best work when its back is against the wall.
posted by runningdogofcapitalism at 8:28 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by runningdogofcapitalism at 8:28 PM on September 13, 2010
I'm putting all my money in charms, spells, tonics, ointments and unguents.
posted by The Whelk at 8:30 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by The Whelk at 8:30 PM on September 13, 2010
if you come crying to me when the shivers come and put a calamity witch on your house and you need sinner's salt to release the talons of mohlech then you'll gots to pay is all I'm sayin.
posted by The Whelk at 8:34 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by The Whelk at 8:34 PM on September 13, 2010
I put all of my money in the bank, because, as history shows, the government won't let it fail.
posted by oddman at 8:36 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by oddman at 8:36 PM on September 13, 2010
The markets have failed you! Invest in my crazy, half-baked, crazytown experimental marketplace web sites!
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 8:38 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by RobotVoodooPower at 8:38 PM on September 13, 2010
They may not let the Bank fail, but the depositors can be go to hell.
posted by Trochanter at 8:38 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by Trochanter at 8:38 PM on September 13, 2010
We really shouldn't be driving traffic to that asshat.
posted by bardic at 8:39 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by bardic at 8:39 PM on September 13, 2010
Between this and the full-page Matthias "HIV's Best Friend and Business Partner" Rath ad in this morning's NYTimes I think I'm going to throttle the next tinfoil hat-wearer I see in person.
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 8:39 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 8:39 PM on September 13, 2010
Clearly, the only growing market are screaming tinfoil crazies.
posted by The Whelk at 8:41 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by The Whelk at 8:41 PM on September 13, 2010
flagged so hard it's at half mast out of respect.
posted by The Whelk at 8:42 PM on September 13, 2010 [3 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 8:42 PM on September 13, 2010 [3 favorites]
Funny, I would've thought Peak America would've been 1954-1960 to these folks. Pre-crypto-Communist-JFK, height of Eisenhowerdom, America was seen a force of right and might all over the world (well, except for that inconvenient Mossadegh thing and few other foibles), etc.
1969 -- the height of Jimi Hendrix, MC5, Jefferson Airplane, Jim Morrison, Captain Beefheart, Abbey Road/Let It Bleed, the Vietnam War -- would not have been my first thought for these folks as the pinnacle of America.
A few sample headlines from this day in 1969: Nixon Administration contemplates temporary suspension of the draft; death of Ho Chi Minh changes nothing in Paris peace talks; Israeli jets attack targets on west coast of Gulf of Suez in fifth day of aerial bombardment; HEW Secretary Robert Finch predicts more integration will be accomplished in the next 2 years than occurred in the entire last 15; South Vietnamese Vice-President Nguyen Cao Ky predicts coup if a coalition with the Vietcong is forced; college students interviewed say that they are uncertain whether this academic year will have as much rioting and unrest as last.
posted by blucevalo at 8:43 PM on September 13, 2010
1969 -- the height of Jimi Hendrix, MC5, Jefferson Airplane, Jim Morrison, Captain Beefheart, Abbey Road/Let It Bleed, the Vietnam War -- would not have been my first thought for these folks as the pinnacle of America.
A few sample headlines from this day in 1969: Nixon Administration contemplates temporary suspension of the draft; death of Ho Chi Minh changes nothing in Paris peace talks; Israeli jets attack targets on west coast of Gulf of Suez in fifth day of aerial bombardment; HEW Secretary Robert Finch predicts more integration will be accomplished in the next 2 years than occurred in the entire last 15; South Vietnamese Vice-President Nguyen Cao Ky predicts coup if a coalition with the Vietcong is forced; college students interviewed say that they are uncertain whether this academic year will have as much rioting and unrest as last.
posted by blucevalo at 8:43 PM on September 13, 2010
New York Jets won the Super Bowl ... New York Mets won the World Series ... ultimate sports success.
Bwahahahahaaaaaaa
posted by pompomtom at 8:43 PM on September 13, 2010
Bwahahahahaaaaaaa
posted by pompomtom at 8:43 PM on September 13, 2010
Please don't give this piece of shit a FPP.
posted by Pope Guilty at 8:43 PM on September 13, 2010
posted by Pope Guilty at 8:43 PM on September 13, 2010
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