Diamondbacks win! Diamondbacks win!
November 4, 2001 8:27 PM Subscribe
posted by machaus at 8:31 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by likorish at 8:34 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by jilly at 8:43 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by Doug at 8:43 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by moz at 8:50 PM on November 4, 2001
A lot of odd managerial decisions in this series, but entertaining nonetheless.
posted by fold_and_mutilate at 8:51 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by Grum at 8:52 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by djacobs at 8:59 PM on November 4, 2001
I don't quite think the D-Backs will be the Marlins, although they're financial picture is pretty ugly; this championship should reverse that trend of lowering attendance since their inaugural year, and Schilling/Johnson/Gonzo among other key players are signed through the next few years. If they can pull off some good trades to get cheaper talent without too huge a drop-off, as well as get some farm system talent, when those delayed payments come back to haunt them in a few years they may just have enough young, hungry, talented players [Exhibit A: Oakland Athletics] to see that period through. And unlike many owners you see during those trophy presentations, Colangelo actually looked pumped that his team had won...
Jilly: Hey man, I'm a Mariners/Red Sox fan. I'm just glad to see someone wipe that smirk off the Yankees face... between spoiled Yankee fans and the media performing a constant rim-job on the Yanks with that "They deserve to win this year" nonsense. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if the champagne was already being wheeled out into the Yankees' locker room after Soriano's homerun in the 8th. The look on Jeter's face when the D-Backs won- priceless!
posted by hincandenza at 9:03 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by bjgeiger at 9:03 PM on November 4, 2001
The Diamondbacks may be a new team, but it's a team of so many guys who've deserved this for years upon years.
posted by dopamine at 9:05 PM on November 4, 2001
I'm definitely glad that Randy Johnson finally gets to have the Ring after all these years :-)
posted by clevershark at 9:05 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by vacapinta at 9:07 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by HoldenCaulfield at 9:13 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by owillis at 9:13 PM on November 4, 2001
He's gotta have that award in the bag now that his team one the series. Sorry Barry, but postseason performance, or lack thereof, is crucial.
posted by mmesker at 9:16 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by Hildago at 9:17 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by mathowie at 9:19 PM on November 4, 2001
My praise goes to the young and old: not just the vet pitchers, but to Grace and Finlay, and to Durazo and Barajas coming off the bench in big games.
(hincandenzera: yep, you're right about the champagne. The MLB International commentators noted that it was being wheeled between the clubhouses quick-smart.)
mmesker: um, the MVP vote already took place before the Series. Barry's a shoo-in. And, very possibly, a 2002 Yankee.
posted by holgate at 9:20 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by jbelshaw at 9:20 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by lbergstr at 9:24 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by mmesker at 9:37 PM on November 4, 2001
I still can't beleive that they won off Rivera. Once we were up and with Rivera on the mound I KNEW we had won it.
Well, I think the Dbacks proved they were just as good, and I think the Yankees proved that even though they're always the team to chase that there's a reason, they just don't give up.
Maybe we'll see the Dbacks there next year, but we'll win this time.
posted by QrysDonnell at 9:40 PM on November 4, 2001
I don't like the Yankees, but I also don't like the fact that the Diamondbacks are just like the Marlins a few years ago in going out and purchasing nearly their entire team. The Yankees' players are paid well, but they're not guns for hire - most went through the farm system and have just been rewarded well.
posted by catatonic at 9:42 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by beto2g at 9:42 PM on November 4, 2001
Any Expos and Twins fans fearing next week's owners' meeting?
posted by holgate at 10:08 PM on November 4, 2001
Randy Johnson? I can't hate that guy. I can, however, note that he is not a particularly handsome man, and I can also note that his eighth-inning showdown with Luis Sojo -- which I believe is Venezuelan for "looks like Ernie Borgnine, only worse" -- might have been the most visually unappealing pitcher-hitter matchup in Series history.
No, Cooler drinkers, my beef is with the very concept of the D-Backs.
My beef is with the "fans" who now cheer lustily for their heroes in downtown Phoenix, those last two words taking the concept of "oxymoron" to new heights.
My beef is with that ballpark, which is so far from a ballpark, it's like calling a Circle K hot dog a beef product.
These are my beefs: The D-Backs could not sell out any NLDS or NLCS games. The fans who did attend booed Matty Williams. The park in which they booed him is a freaking mall.
So forgive me if I didn't get all teary-eyed when Matty went deep off Andy Pettitte, and they gave the veteran third baseman a curtain call. I can't get the idea out of my head that this classiest of ballplayers endured the boos of people who wonder, in between innings, "Will I ever get out to the pool in right field one day, and if so, can I cannonball?"
Full article can be found here.
posted by Bixby23 at 10:15 PM on November 4, 2001
Stellar series and hats off to the D'Backs. *sigh*
posted by fooljay at 10:32 PM on November 4, 2001
This World Series was weird for me since, I rooted against the Yankees last year, but for them this year. I am a diehard Mets fan, yes. I was still disappointed that the Yankees lost it in the bottom of the ninth after such an inspiring Game 3-4-5 progression.
Anyone else ready for a Mets-Yanks Subway World Series again next year?
posted by nyukid at 11:44 PM on November 4, 2001
posted by crasspastor at 12:12 AM on November 5, 2001
I agree with you that Brenley made a lot of mistakes, but you have to admit he also made his hunches pay off as well. And he managed a team to win the World Series against the most experienced World Series team in 20 years or more... He may have done some stupid things, but overall his demeanor and decisions brought them the championship-- I think he will mature into a great manager.
posted by chaz at 12:43 AM on November 5, 2001
Gee, that looks pretty.
The Yankees have been killing off interest in the post-season for many fans, so it's a good thing that they lost.
The best thing for the game is for the NY teams to stay out of the Series for a while.
Dynasties kill any sport.
Yankee fans will just have to be content with all of those pennants that are already flying at Yankee Stadium.
Mets fans, well, they can bitch.
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 1:20 AM on November 5, 2001
posted by BarneyFifesBullet at 1:24 AM on November 5, 2001
I am happy that the Yankees lost because I am so tired of the same thing over and over. It really got boring and abusive, not competitive sport. Same thing, over and over. I agree with just kicking them out of the league and see the rest do, probably more exciting overall. (And I lived in NYC for 13 years. And rooted for the Knicks. Ha! And the Mets!)
posted by mmarcos at 3:14 AM on November 5, 2001
But I so wanted them to win. They are the Manchester United of baseball (and Man Utd will lose too this year) - and in more ways than their co-marketing agreement. It's just the commitment, the class,the skill. That Jeter catch and throw was just insane, especially when he clearly been injured. It's probably a good thing for the sport that they didn't win this time, but I wish they had.
posted by nedrichards at 4:14 AM on November 5, 2001
Does anyone have the tape of the radio play-by-play of the ninth inning?
Yankee players: impressive, but verging on arrogant. Yankee fans and the New York media: loathsome. The fans of consistantly winning teams are not fans.
People out there in the hinterlands: just remember there are New Yorkers who aren't smug, arrogant...Yankee fans.
posted by ParisParamus at 5:50 AM on November 5, 2001
posted by danOstuporStar at 5:58 AM on November 5, 2001
You think it's only Al-Qaeda or bin Laden who want New York City destroyed? No, those who hate New York City are alive and kicking within our borders, and they're blind to the stunning similarity of this: the New York City is to the rest of the country as the US is to the rest of the world. Other Americans detest the Yankees because they win? Because they're a rich team? What? Oh, I see: New Yorkers are arrogant.
New Yorkers are proud of a baseball team. A winning baseball team. Staffed by a bunch of pretty damned good ball players. Where's the arrogance in that? Supporting a winning team? Do you see where I'm headed with this? Do you see how the US could be so savagely and unreasonably disliked world-wide? And do you see the disconnect there, the impossible solution? The solution is for the disliked party to fail. Not at one game, but at all of them.
Those people who have stifled their desires to rip gleefully on New York City have taken delight in the losses of the Yankees. From here they appear to be the same group of flag-waving neo-jingoists that shout down anyone asking for calm, consideration, or true justice in place of venegeance. Their actions are contradictory: support the arrogance of the United States, but not of Yankee fans. That is, if you are willing to grant that either arrogance actually exists.
These people are no longer supressing their distaste for New York City—or its immigrants, its liberals, its Jews—or anything from it. The post 9/11 moratorium is over. We don't hear anymore, "We're all New Yorkers now." What we hear is often similar to the email message I received below.
"Keep pushing your liberal agenda. I must admit you have been very good at it for the past 30 years. Your no-borders, diversity-at-any-cost attitudes have paved the way for terrorists by hamstringing our immigration defenses. Terrorists are now in our midst. But remember this, the terrorists have struck at major metropolitan areas and will again. These areas are full of hate-filled liberals like you. You survived this attack. Will you survive the next one? Perhaps a nuclear one? You reap what you sow. Keep sowing."
posted by Mo Nickels at 6:37 AM on November 5, 2001
Did he shout "Tha' Yankees Lose, THAAAAAAAA YANKEES LOSE!" ???
posted by darren at 6:47 AM on November 5, 2001
You *and* the Yankees thought that. You could see it in Joe Torres' face as he pumped his fist in the air and then called the bullpen.
Classic series, played by classy folks. It was so nice to hear the Diamondback players praising the Yankees. It was nice to see Mayor Rudy clapping and smiling for the Diamondbacks.
Bravo.
posted by terrapin at 7:20 AM on November 5, 2001
posted by eckeric at 8:10 AM on November 5, 2001
posted by jerseygirl at 8:22 AM on November 5, 2001
posted by msacheson at 9:49 AM on November 5, 2001
The best thing for the game is for the NY teams to stay out of the Series for a while.
Dynasties kill any sport.
I tend to disagree and so does the author of this article...
posted by fooljay at 9:55 AM on November 5, 2001
that's the one reason i wouldn't have minded yet another yankee champsionship this year. Mussina fits msacheson's description.
still, i'm generally pleased as punch.
posted by danOstuporStar at 10:20 AM on November 5, 2001
Ari Fleischer is such a control freak.
posted by zinegurl at 6:21 PM on November 5, 2001
(Apologies, but an aside: Did you hear Al Ferguson mentioned last week that Solskjaer watches so intently from the sidelines that he is effectively United's twelfth player. When he comes on the pitch, he's in the game but not tired, and scores like he did against Leeds (?) last week.)
posted by philfromhavelock at 9:44 PM on November 5, 2001
This is a test of paragraph inserts, disregard.
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