Oh Courtney, You So Crazy
February 3, 2003 3:40 PM Subscribe
Courtney's "spread" in the upcoming Q Magazine really proves that she has a knack for publicity. Page two is here and here's the third page. NSFW. Not safe for anywhere, really.
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posted by glitterbug at 3:44 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by glitterbug at 3:44 PM on February 3, 2003
your always humble q disavows any association with this, this, this -- SMUTRAG!
posted by quonsar at 3:45 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by quonsar at 3:45 PM on February 3, 2003
And I just had to add... I've had this mefi account for a year and this is the first subject i felt compelled enough to post, not much as it may be, it just says something.. i think.. well now that i broke the seal, expect to see me again real soon.
posted by glitterbug at 3:46 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by glitterbug at 3:46 PM on February 3, 2003
oh i just hate her. terrible fake looking dumbo
-----| ahem
posted by Peter H at 3:53 PM on February 3, 2003
-----| ahem
posted by Peter H at 3:53 PM on February 3, 2003
Bleh. The thing you'd do to get back on tracks, really.
Page 3 is particlarly... err... *pukes*
Now my mission is to hide this news from the eyes of my girlfriend, "OGT / back in '92 / bought the first EP"-type fan of Hole (and hence, sadly, love). Oh dear...
I second what matteo says.
posted by XiBe at 3:56 PM on February 3, 2003
Page 3 is particlarly... err... *pukes*
Now my mission is to hide this news from the eyes of my girlfriend, "OGT / back in '92 / bought the first EP"-type fan of Hole (and hence, sadly, love). Oh dear...
I second what matteo says.
posted by XiBe at 3:56 PM on February 3, 2003
Wait, I'm supposed to pay $2000 to advertise on THAT?
Oh... Sorry, wrong post.
posted by ubi at 3:56 PM on February 3, 2003
Oh... Sorry, wrong post.
posted by ubi at 3:56 PM on February 3, 2003
Madonna's done all this, and 10 years ago, too. We forgave her, but Courtney's just a wannabe, always has been, always will be a wannabe; she will remain unforgiven.
And I still miss Kurt.
posted by WolfDaddy at 3:58 PM on February 3, 2003
And I still miss Kurt.
posted by WolfDaddy at 3:58 PM on February 3, 2003
Why did I look at that at work? Now I'm gonna get fired!
posted by monkeymike at 3:59 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by monkeymike at 3:59 PM on February 3, 2003
"Wax my anus!"
posted by TimeFactor at 4:01 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by TimeFactor at 4:01 PM on February 3, 2003
O Dear. O - O Dear.
Famous woman proves she has breasts.
What a post.
Storm in a B-cup.
posted by dash_slot- at 4:09 PM on February 3, 2003
Famous woman proves she has breasts.
What a post.
Storm in a B-cup.
posted by dash_slot- at 4:09 PM on February 3, 2003
What is up with the bruising? How one person can spend their life covered in bruises is baffling. It's like it's become her trademark -- her sick, filthy trademark.
posted by boomchicka at 4:11 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by boomchicka at 4:11 PM on February 3, 2003
I don't know what the big deal is. She's just an outgoing and talented woman with an urge towards public expression of her muse. She's a misunderstood artist with a freshly waxed anus. Are we so snobbish and conservative that naked, blubbery, washed up artists need to be ridiculed like this?
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:13 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by y6y6y6 at 4:13 PM on February 3, 2003
aeiou-
Did you find that by clicking on one those "Granny Porn" banners? The Greatest Generation derserves better.
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:14 PM on February 3, 2003
Did you find that by clicking on one those "Granny Porn" banners? The Greatest Generation derserves better.
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:14 PM on February 3, 2003
Madonna's done all this, and 10 years ago, too
Wolf, I disagree: ms Ciccone's book was a very carefully planned -- if tasteless and moroninc -- publicity stunt
Love's face in the Q pics tells a different story -- out-of-control ex-junkie back on smack and on whatever she happened to find in London that night. (btw, I like the Lanesborough a little bit less, tonight -- terrible taste in guests)
She has the right to shoot, snort and ingest whatever she wants -- unfortunately she's a single mom of a little child, and that makes the "vedova allegra" routine much more alarming
TimeFactor,
yeah, that was a fun tagline, I agree, straight out of South Park
dash slot,
she used to be a stripper, so she's accustomed to be naked in the presence of strangers. also, at least once she performed an entire song (the aptly-titled "Awful") topless. the video is all over WinMX/Kazaalite/Xnap et similia
How one person can spend their life covered in bruises is baffling
less baffling if you consider that junkies are very often covered in bruises -- smack can make you itch all over, and you go on scratching the skin until it breaks -- and seldom heals
posted by matteo at 4:17 PM on February 3, 2003
Wolf, I disagree: ms Ciccone's book was a very carefully planned -- if tasteless and moroninc -- publicity stunt
Love's face in the Q pics tells a different story -- out-of-control ex-junkie back on smack and on whatever she happened to find in London that night. (btw, I like the Lanesborough a little bit less, tonight -- terrible taste in guests)
She has the right to shoot, snort and ingest whatever she wants -- unfortunately she's a single mom of a little child, and that makes the "vedova allegra" routine much more alarming
TimeFactor,
yeah, that was a fun tagline, I agree, straight out of South Park
dash slot,
she used to be a stripper, so she's accustomed to be naked in the presence of strangers. also, at least once she performed an entire song (the aptly-titled "Awful") topless. the video is all over WinMX/Kazaalite/Xnap et similia
How one person can spend their life covered in bruises is baffling
less baffling if you consider that junkies are very often covered in bruises -- smack can make you itch all over, and you go on scratching the skin until it breaks -- and seldom heals
posted by matteo at 4:17 PM on February 3, 2003
Starts to automatically defend Courtney, thinks about it, starts to back away...
Well, heroin won't make you run down streets naked at 3 a.m., but alcohol just might, especially in combination with something mood elevating, perhaps prescribed. Didn't Courtney share a doctor/drug supplier with Winona Ryder?
posted by jokeefe at 4:31 PM on February 3, 2003
Well, heroin won't make you run down streets naked at 3 a.m., but alcohol just might, especially in combination with something mood elevating, perhaps prescribed. Didn't Courtney share a doctor/drug supplier with Winona Ryder?
posted by jokeefe at 4:31 PM on February 3, 2003
Oh, thhpppbt on most of you.
Okay, so I am incredibly biased, seeing as Love helped lead the "girls can be punk rock too" movement in the early 1990's that changed my life, but I sure prefer the Courtney of this article than the pearl-wearing model/actress, "oh I just love Sharon Stone" phase from a few years ago. (And, at the risk of seeming incredibly naive, I think it is just as likely that Courtney Love realizes what gets her press and what images will help fuel her recording career, rather than she's actually back in the full junkie swing again.) I've never seen her do anything vaguely public that hasn't caused the general outpouring of 'junkie', or 'talentless', or 'ugly', so I guess it's kind of reassuring that some things never change. (end of rant)
posted by jess at 4:37 PM on February 3, 2003
Okay, so I am incredibly biased, seeing as Love helped lead the "girls can be punk rock too" movement in the early 1990's that changed my life, but I sure prefer the Courtney of this article than the pearl-wearing model/actress, "oh I just love Sharon Stone" phase from a few years ago. (And, at the risk of seeming incredibly naive, I think it is just as likely that Courtney Love realizes what gets her press and what images will help fuel her recording career, rather than she's actually back in the full junkie swing again.) I've never seen her do anything vaguely public that hasn't caused the general outpouring of 'junkie', or 'talentless', or 'ugly', so I guess it's kind of reassuring that some things never change. (end of rant)
posted by jess at 4:37 PM on February 3, 2003
MeFi, 3 Feb '03: Courtney is Naked and Moz is Not Gay.
(Not strictly gay, anyway.)
posted by Shane at 4:40 PM on February 3, 2003
(Not strictly gay, anyway.)
posted by Shane at 4:40 PM on February 3, 2003
I'm with y6y6y6 on this one (and jess). Courtney is talented, and from interviews she seems fairly intelligent. Really, her life is a form of performance art. It sounds like some people are a little too accustomed to 'corporate' art, retouched photographs taken through lens filters and celebs who act sweet for their press junkets.
Art isn't pretty. In the words of the lovely Sandra Bernhard, whose tradition both Madonna and Courtney have followed, "Please just give me an old-fashioned, big tittied, sweaty bitch of rock and roll."
posted by troybob at 4:47 PM on February 3, 2003
Art isn't pretty. In the words of the lovely Sandra Bernhard, whose tradition both Madonna and Courtney have followed, "Please just give me an old-fashioned, big tittied, sweaty bitch of rock and roll."
posted by troybob at 4:47 PM on February 3, 2003
I will always treasure the video where Madonna's being interviewed by Kurt Loder, and Courtney starts throwing shit at them from off-camera. The identical sphincter-face disapproval expressions Madonna and Loder both get are priceless. Madonna's like "How dare you steal my spotlight!" and Loder is like "How dare you steal Madonna's spotlight!" Great stuff.
posted by GriffX at 4:50 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by GriffX at 4:50 PM on February 3, 2003
I don't believe for a second that, of all the possible terms available, Courtney would choose to use the word "anus".
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:55 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by mr_crash_davis at 4:55 PM on February 3, 2003
seeing as Love helped lead the "girls can be punk rock too" movement
er... more like she cashed in on that movement just like she cashed in on anything else she could...
and troybob - you're nuts. a picture of courtney love is corporate art. she hasn't been punk for a looong time.
posted by badstone at 5:03 PM on February 3, 2003
er... more like she cashed in on that movement just like she cashed in on anything else she could...
and troybob - you're nuts. a picture of courtney love is corporate art. she hasn't been punk for a looong time.
posted by badstone at 5:03 PM on February 3, 2003
Courtney is talented,
...at making headlines. Her contribution to the world of music has been entirely in marketing, which certainly has its place in rock and roll, but let's not confuse her with people who have some actual musical talent.
posted by Ty Webb at 5:06 PM on February 3, 2003
...at making headlines. Her contribution to the world of music has been entirely in marketing, which certainly has its place in rock and roll, but let's not confuse her with people who have some actual musical talent.
posted by Ty Webb at 5:06 PM on February 3, 2003
badstone, punk has nothing to do with it--she's gained entry to the mainstream as a means of undermining it; no matter what kind of work she has done or what designers she has worn, at every point in her career she has conveyed its lifestyle and values as bullshit.
That's OK, though. U2 did kind of the same thing in the mid-90's, and most people didn't get it then either.
posted by troybob at 5:13 PM on February 3, 2003
That's OK, though. U2 did kind of the same thing in the mid-90's, and most people didn't get it then either.
posted by troybob at 5:13 PM on February 3, 2003
[this might be offensive]
posted by adampsyche at 5:21 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by adampsyche at 5:21 PM on February 3, 2003
First, why is this on metafilter?
Second, why are so many people posting?
Third, (ok ok I'm adding to the thread too) I bruise easily and if I have an itch on my leg (because I have dry skin and live in a cold climate, not because I'm on anything) I get a bruise that can look pretty bad. I can also get a pretty bad bruise from running into something (like cutting a corner too close when going from one room to another).
[seriously, I'm not on anything, just a klutz!]
posted by evening at 5:23 PM on February 3, 2003
Second, why are so many people posting?
Third, (ok ok I'm adding to the thread too) I bruise easily and if I have an itch on my leg (because I have dry skin and live in a cold climate, not because I'm on anything) I get a bruise that can look pretty bad. I can also get a pretty bad bruise from running into something (like cutting a corner too close when going from one room to another).
[seriously, I'm not on anything, just a klutz!]
posted by evening at 5:23 PM on February 3, 2003
"I'm with y6y6y6 on this one"
I'm just guessing here, so I could be wrong, but I think y6y6y6 might be yanking your chain dude. She's nasty. And not good nasty.
posted by y6y6y6 at 5:37 PM on February 3, 2003
I'm just guessing here, so I could be wrong, but I think y6y6y6 might be yanking your chain dude. She's nasty. And not good nasty.
posted by y6y6y6 at 5:37 PM on February 3, 2003
So if it was a bloke falling all over himself, with his chopper out, that would be a bit of a laugh eh?...
But when Ms. Love does it, it precipitates all of the above.
Silly post. And I'm a bloke....
posted by marvin at 6:00 PM on February 3, 2003
But when Ms. Love does it, it precipitates all of the above.
Silly post. And I'm a bloke....
posted by marvin at 6:00 PM on February 3, 2003
I'd hit it.
Wait a second! This isn't Fark - what the hell?!
posted by wfrgms at 6:02 PM on February 3, 2003
Wait a second! This isn't Fark - what the hell?!
posted by wfrgms at 6:02 PM on February 3, 2003
we should all do like the record labels are... ignore her and hope she goes away
posted by mb01 at 6:47 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by mb01 at 6:47 PM on February 3, 2003
If a train went into that tunnel who would expect it to come out the other end? "Only with Humans"... Harry Callahan
posted by Mack Twain at 6:56 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by Mack Twain at 6:56 PM on February 3, 2003
courtney love naked. wow. never seen pictures of that before. I hear she's kind of a wild chick, too.
posted by stifford at 7:12 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by stifford at 7:12 PM on February 3, 2003
I mostly posted this because I was appalled that she could act this way, after hearing about her "friend" Joe Strummer's death earlier that day. I guess everyone mourns in their own way. What a jerk she is.
Fark shmark.
posted by aeiou at 7:18 PM on February 3, 2003
Fark shmark.
posted by aeiou at 7:18 PM on February 3, 2003
I'm with y6y6y6 on this one
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
you see, troybob, it's like... ahhh. never mind.
[snickering]
posted by quonsar at 7:42 PM on February 3, 2003
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
you see, troybob, it's like... ahhh. never mind.
[snickering]
posted by quonsar at 7:42 PM on February 3, 2003
she's got nice boobs.
And I still miss Kurt.
not me. grubby boys who refuse to accept how good they have it and choose to give themselves over to selfish personal melodrama instead of their offspring are well past my limit.
posted by t r a c y at 8:23 PM on February 3, 2003
And I still miss Kurt.
not me. grubby boys who refuse to accept how good they have it and choose to give themselves over to selfish personal melodrama instead of their offspring are well past my limit.
posted by t r a c y at 8:23 PM on February 3, 2003
Wait! On Metafilter, aren't we supposed to post things that most people haven't seen?
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:38 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by Joey Michaels at 8:38 PM on February 3, 2003
seeing as Love helped lead the "girls can be punk rock too" movement
See also Kim Deal, Joan Jett, Poly Styrene, Siouxsie, Blondie, Tina Weymouth, Kira Roessler, Exene Cervenka, Chrissie Hynde, Patti Smith, Kim Gordon, etc, etc.
Punk rock girls existed a long time before Courtney Love. Courtney Love just made it marketable.
Fucking bitch.
posted by SweetJesus at 8:44 PM on February 3, 2003 [1 favorite]
See also Kim Deal, Joan Jett, Poly Styrene, Siouxsie, Blondie, Tina Weymouth, Kira Roessler, Exene Cervenka, Chrissie Hynde, Patti Smith, Kim Gordon, etc, etc.
Punk rock girls existed a long time before Courtney Love. Courtney Love just made it marketable.
Fucking bitch.
posted by SweetJesus at 8:44 PM on February 3, 2003 [1 favorite]
Expect more of this as long as rock continues to cling desperately to life. Invent some new music already. Rock is dead.
posted by HTuttle at 8:51 PM on February 3, 2003
posted by HTuttle at 8:51 PM on February 3, 2003
She's brilliant.
I'm glad I came here
With your pound of flesh
is one of the most amazing lines in a rock song ever.
Great spread! Completely throws the whole crapper out the window. The world would be a much better place if more celebs had their anuses waxed!
posted by filchyboy at 9:11 PM on February 3, 2003
I'm glad I came here
With your pound of flesh
is one of the most amazing lines in a rock song ever.
Great spread! Completely throws the whole crapper out the window. The world would be a much better place if more celebs had their anuses waxed!
posted by filchyboy at 9:11 PM on February 3, 2003
An awful lot of people are taking the time to post to say what a lousy post it is.
I think it's a fine post. I think she's got it going on. I'd like to hit it from behind. I bet that shakin' ass would look like two squirrels trying to fight their way out of a burlap sack.
posted by vito90 at 10:00 PM on February 3, 2003
I think it's a fine post. I think she's got it going on. I'd like to hit it from behind. I bet that shakin' ass would look like two squirrels trying to fight their way out of a burlap sack.
posted by vito90 at 10:00 PM on February 3, 2003
Free us from Nancy Spungen-fixated heroin A-holes who cling to our greatest rock groups and suck out their brains. - Julian Cope.
posted by misteraitch at 12:45 AM on February 4, 2003 [1 favorite]
posted by misteraitch at 12:45 AM on February 4, 2003 [1 favorite]
oh i'm a male rock star, i can't control myself around women i'm attracted to. i'm so simple minded i can't make my own choices, i have to let the girl i'm fucking make those choices for me. i'm so weak, i can't be held responsible for my own life. i'm just a poor pitiful manchild. somebody hold me. preferably a drug addicted female with a tendency to live vicariously thru the talent-bereft infants she dates.
julian can take that load and spread it over the nearest rose garden.
posted by t r a c y at 2:08 AM on February 4, 2003
julian can take that load and spread it over the nearest rose garden.
posted by t r a c y at 2:08 AM on February 4, 2003
I just saw my life pass before my eyes.
Thank you, MoneyGrubbingSlutFilter :)
posted by shadow45 at 4:38 AM on February 4, 2003
Thank you, MoneyGrubbingSlutFilter :)
posted by shadow45 at 4:38 AM on February 4, 2003
Really, her life is a form of performance art.
Yeah, I didn't buy that one when Andrew Dice Clay tried it either.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 4:55 AM on February 4, 2003
Yeah, I didn't buy that one when Andrew Dice Clay tried it either.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 4:55 AM on February 4, 2003
I'd have more some respect for her if she exposed her 38 year old less-than-glamorous flesh while sober. If this is a display of grrrl power, every strung out street walker downtown is doing her bit for the women's movement.
posted by Devils Slide at 7:12 AM on February 4, 2003
posted by Devils Slide at 7:12 AM on February 4, 2003
"COURTNEY LOVE has been arrested at HEATHROW AIRPORT...she had been verbally abusive to cabin crew during the flight."
Stewardess, wax my anus!
You knew it was coming, right?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:47 AM on February 4, 2003
Stewardess, wax my anus!
You knew it was coming, right?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:47 AM on February 4, 2003
I hereby suggest to replace the tired and old MeFi insult "fuckwit" with "wax my anus"
posted by matteo at 8:34 AM on February 4, 2003
posted by matteo at 8:34 AM on February 4, 2003
That would work, matteo, except that it's not an insult. It's sweet, sweet poetry which one whispers into the delicate, shell-like ear of one's True Love when passions are enflamed and hearts are beating faster, faster in the still, quiet evening and...
Whoops. Got carried away there. It's just such a romantic phrase.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 8:38 AM on February 4, 2003
Whoops. Got carried away there. It's just such a romantic phrase.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 8:38 AM on February 4, 2003
who is showing herself off in the same way that people who like looking at ladies would love to see only young, nubile, silicon-enhanced bimbos
She *is* a silicon-enhanced bimbo. She's had her boobs done, her nose done, and god-knows-what else. And this is a woman who's heralded as the progenitor of today's women in rock, a founding (ha!) riot grrrrl? The same woman who often espoused her love for her (pre-enhanced) body? The feminist icon who achieved fame by marrying up? Whatever. I'd suggest that she doesn't even merit the scrutiny this thread gives her, but OTOH, I do *so* love to hate her.
posted by cowboy_sally at 8:53 AM on February 4, 2003
She *is* a silicon-enhanced bimbo. She's had her boobs done, her nose done, and god-knows-what else. And this is a woman who's heralded as the progenitor of today's women in rock, a founding (ha!) riot grrrrl? The same woman who often espoused her love for her (pre-enhanced) body? The feminist icon who achieved fame by marrying up? Whatever. I'd suggest that she doesn't even merit the scrutiny this thread gives her, but OTOH, I do *so* love to hate her.
posted by cowboy_sally at 8:53 AM on February 4, 2003
Punk rock girls existed a long time before Courtney Love. Courtney Love just made it marketable.
Well.. yeah. Courtney Love brought the "punk rock girl" concept of the 90s to, in my case, girls living in a tiny fishing village on the coast of nowhere. Sometimes you need a little marketability to reach the target audience.
And if it were a male rock star gettin' naughty for a photo shoot, I bet most of y'all wouldn't say boo.
posted by jess at 8:59 AM on February 4, 2003
Well.. yeah. Courtney Love brought the "punk rock girl" concept of the 90s to, in my case, girls living in a tiny fishing village on the coast of nowhere. Sometimes you need a little marketability to reach the target audience.
And if it were a male rock star gettin' naughty for a photo shoot, I bet most of y'all wouldn't say boo.
posted by jess at 8:59 AM on February 4, 2003
1) Courtney Hole's music isn't bad... not quote genius, but not bad. Better than Madonna's.
2) I can't figure out what leads any of you to believe she's on smack in the photo shoot.
3) For the record, I think she's pretty hot.
4) She's somewhat intelligent.
Yes, I prefer to call her Courtney Hole
posted by maniactown at 9:48 AM on February 4, 2003
2) I can't figure out what leads any of you to believe she's on smack in the photo shoot.
3) For the record, I think she's pretty hot.
4) She's somewhat intelligent.
Yes, I prefer to call her Courtney Hole
posted by maniactown at 9:48 AM on February 4, 2003
1) & 3): I can't argue with personal taste.
2): While she may not be on smack, she is clearly on something.
4): Intelligent enough to essentially regurgitate a piece Steve Albini wrote many years prior?
posted by cowboy_sally at 10:04 AM on February 4, 2003
2): While she may not be on smack, she is clearly on something.
4): Intelligent enough to essentially regurgitate a piece Steve Albini wrote many years prior?
posted by cowboy_sally at 10:04 AM on February 4, 2003
Except Albini's piece is more detailed and better written. Good catch, cowboy_sally!
posted by languagehat at 11:43 AM on February 4, 2003
posted by languagehat at 11:43 AM on February 4, 2003
Pure, unmitigated misogyny, people.
If was any male singer, say Lenny Kravitz or Fred Durst nobody would give a shit except their fans. This thread wouldn't exist.
But when Courtney, Christina or Madonna show some flesh, OhMyGod isn't she a slut? Sell out, bitch, on drugs, etc...
This whole thread is like so 20th century...
posted by signal at 12:05 PM on February 4, 2003
If was any male singer, say Lenny Kravitz or Fred Durst nobody would give a shit except their fans. This thread wouldn't exist.
But when Courtney, Christina or Madonna show some flesh, OhMyGod isn't she a slut? Sell out, bitch, on drugs, etc...
This whole thread is like so 20th century...
posted by signal at 12:05 PM on February 4, 2003
Eh. If this were a man it'd still be deplorable because this display isn't just of skin. This is someone making a grade-A, first class fool of themselves for sport, perhaps intentionally but perhaps (hopefully?) not. I wouldn't give anyone a pass on acting like a jackass -- clothed or unclothed -- regardless of gender.
posted by Dreama at 12:20 PM on February 4, 2003
posted by Dreama at 12:20 PM on February 4, 2003
(I'm unaware of any photo shoots involving Lenny Kravitz having his ass hairs removed, but will do a search on filepile right now, for contrast.)
Misogynist how? Courtney Love is a media whore ne plus ultra. As a performer, her career appears to be tanking, thus she is going to greater and greater lengths to be the center of attention. She has innumerable male counterparts in this game; Dennis Rodman comes to mind. Marilyn Manson will undoubtedly be heading down this road soon enough. Because when you have big cojones but little talent, your career trajectory is like a deflating party balloon, shrieking loudest and zipping around the room fastest right before it drops to the floor. And it has nothing to do with whether you're out parading your fake tits and macerated junkie ass.
posted by cowboy_sally at 12:26 PM on February 4, 2003
Misogynist how? Courtney Love is a media whore ne plus ultra. As a performer, her career appears to be tanking, thus she is going to greater and greater lengths to be the center of attention. She has innumerable male counterparts in this game; Dennis Rodman comes to mind. Marilyn Manson will undoubtedly be heading down this road soon enough. Because when you have big cojones but little talent, your career trajectory is like a deflating party balloon, shrieking loudest and zipping around the room fastest right before it drops to the floor. And it has nothing to do with whether you're out parading your fake tits and macerated junkie ass.
posted by cowboy_sally at 12:26 PM on February 4, 2003
I will defend to the death (okay, hyperbole, but you know what I mean) the right of women to act, speak, make themselves known, and variously display themselves in the public eye, but this performance is evidence of wreckage, not courage.
And I loved Pretty on the Inside, which is a work of sheer brilliance, imo; Live Through This has great moments as well, and so does the underrated Celebrity Skin. Oh, and the riot grrls hated Courtney from the beginning; see Courtney's feud with Kathleen Hanna.
posted by jokeefe at 1:45 PM on February 4, 2003
And I loved Pretty on the Inside, which is a work of sheer brilliance, imo; Live Through This has great moments as well, and so does the underrated Celebrity Skin. Oh, and the riot grrls hated Courtney from the beginning; see Courtney's feud with Kathleen Hanna.
posted by jokeefe at 1:45 PM on February 4, 2003
the whole courtney love phenomenon rubs me the wrong way because while courtney espoused a feminist viewpoint after the release of live through this her actions ran counter to her backlash-quotin' ways in interviews. she regularly engaged in catfights with female musicians who are on smaller labels than her (mary lou lord, kath hanna, sleater-kinney, etc), got plastic surgery done, appeared in a movie about larry flynt, etc. i can't take her seriously because she fails to put her money where her mouth is. and i'm someone where feminism was influenced by punk rock.
posted by pxe2000 at 5:10 AM on February 5, 2003
posted by pxe2000 at 5:10 AM on February 5, 2003
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