Blogma2001: A Manifesto for Better Weblogging
November 15, 2000 12:08 PM Subscribe
anybody wanna talk about napster?
or nader?
rcb
posted by rebeccablood at 12:20 PM on November 15, 2000
or nader?
rcb
posted by rebeccablood at 12:20 PM on November 15, 2000
I was entertained by the manifesto-- not in actual agreement-- but entertained. That is until I went to his actual blog and read the first two posts:
(1)Anyway, I'm going to buy fuckloads of CDs _and_ a discman-type thingy that's more resilient than my '97 Sony today. (Umm, contravening my own Manifesto, but anyway. Hypocrites have more fun.) I'm going to bore you shitless about them later on, no doubt.
(2)Everybody's doin' it, doin' it, doin' it...: Skykicking redesigns as well.
One, in his words, backpedlling on his own Manifesto. And Two is the LinkyLove he kind of lambasts...
Can't we just let everybody do whatever they want?
posted by schlomo at 12:35 PM on November 15, 2000
(1)Anyway, I'm going to buy fuckloads of CDs _and_ a discman-type thingy that's more resilient than my '97 Sony today. (Umm, contravening my own Manifesto, but anyway. Hypocrites have more fun.) I'm going to bore you shitless about them later on, no doubt.
(2)Everybody's doin' it, doin' it, doin' it...: Skykicking redesigns as well.
One, in his words, backpedlling on his own Manifesto. And Two is the LinkyLove he kind of lambasts...
Can't we just let everybody do whatever they want?
posted by schlomo at 12:35 PM on November 15, 2000
I think we should have a contest to coin the stupidest term with blog in it. Just today, I've seen blogma, blogtastic, bloggeuse, and blogorrhea on pages linked off of Metafilter.
I submit blogarithm, electroencephablogram, epiblogue, gastroenteroblogy, and medulla oblogata for your approval.
Of course, we don't really need a contest. We could just let the press and the blogging community stumble across them organically.
posted by waxpancake at 12:39 PM on November 15, 2000
I submit blogarithm, electroencephablogram, epiblogue, gastroenteroblogy, and medulla oblogata for your approval.
Of course, we don't really need a contest. We could just let the press and the blogging community stumble across them organically.
posted by waxpancake at 12:39 PM on November 15, 2000
I submit: blogectomy - as in "A blogectomy would make that site a lot better."
posted by gluechunk at 12:50 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by gluechunk at 12:50 PM on November 15, 2000
When did the rhetoric of Dogme 95 get hijacked by anyone with some kind of big statement to make? What's the thought process -- something like "Must have manifesto. Dogme Manifesto. Me call manifesto ???m[a/e] !"
Gosh durn it, not all manifestoes are the same. Dogme 95 had some pretty specific demands: natural lighting only, no "genre" movies, only props found on location. If you want to go start an anti-celebrity-blog movement and democratize a content-is-king blogiverse, sure, go ahead, but what does this have to do with the technical components of weblogging, with the artistic statement one makes in a blog?
posted by grimmelm at 12:58 PM on November 15, 2000
Gosh durn it, not all manifestoes are the same. Dogme 95 had some pretty specific demands: natural lighting only, no "genre" movies, only props found on location. If you want to go start an anti-celebrity-blog movement and democratize a content-is-king blogiverse, sure, go ahead, but what does this have to do with the technical components of weblogging, with the artistic statement one makes in a blog?
posted by grimmelm at 12:58 PM on November 15, 2000
What else do you expect from Aussies? They obviously don't have any semblance of a reasonable sense of humor. Just look at Neale.
posted by daveadams at 1:01 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by daveadams at 1:01 PM on November 15, 2000
Bloglodyte? A troglodyte with a blog?
I've been thinking of putting down a few words about blogs myself recently but it would never actually occur to me to tell other people what to do. It might piss me off slightly that other people's blogs get more attention than mine but blaming them for that seems pointless.
Or was the guy just joking?
posted by davidgentle at 1:22 PM on November 15, 2000
I've been thinking of putting down a few words about blogs myself recently but it would never actually occur to me to tell other people what to do. It might piss me off slightly that other people's blogs get more attention than mine but blaming them for that seems pointless.
Or was the guy just joking?
posted by davidgentle at 1:22 PM on November 15, 2000
I thought it was hilarious, though I was looking for guidelines, preferably far-fetched and difficult to attain.
In the spirit of Dogme 95, how about:
Oh, I submit: Bloggunity. Gack.
posted by frykitty at 1:25 PM on November 15, 2000
In the spirit of Dogme 95, how about:
- Design elements must be entirely of one's own making.
- All coding must be done by hand in a text editor.
- No superfluous design elements. Animation is forbidden.
- All blog entries must be completely factual. No exaggeration or changing names to protect the innocent.
- Clever aliases are forbidden.
- Blogs not following Dogma rules may not be linked.
Oh, I submit: Bloggunity. Gack.
posted by frykitty at 1:25 PM on November 15, 2000
Damn. Now I'm gonna be hearing
"Who's in the Blog House?
[meme] [meme] [meme]"
in my head for the rest of the day.
I love the idea of putting together some sort of blogliography, but I think you have to at least use the word in a sentence (er, in blogtext?)...
posted by CrazyUncleJoe at 1:35 PM on November 15, 2000
"Who's in the Blog House?
[meme] [meme] [meme]"
in my head for the rest of the day.
I love the idea of putting together some sort of blogliography, but I think you have to at least use the word in a sentence (er, in blogtext?)...
posted by CrazyUncleJoe at 1:35 PM on November 15, 2000
blogiography? nuh-huh. I like biblioblography better, because it sounds like something Homer Simpson might say.
posted by grimmelm at 1:58 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by grimmelm at 1:58 PM on November 15, 2000
y'know, there would be no "a-list" if people would stop saying there's one. No one within the "a-list" has ever seriously proclaimed they were a member of any elite.
It's all these people on the outside saying "look at them, they're elitist! they won't let me in their secret cabal!"
posted by mathowie at 2:00 PM on November 15, 2000
It's all these people on the outside saying "look at them, they're elitist! they won't let me in their secret cabal!"
posted by mathowie at 2:00 PM on November 15, 2000
Blografice, bloglodyte, bloggystyle...this over-use of a word to say many things is feeling familiar.
Ah yes: SMURF.
posted by frykitty at 2:26 PM on November 15, 2000
Ah yes: SMURF.
posted by frykitty at 2:26 PM on November 15, 2000
Kerouac's belief and technique for modern prose is all you need.
posted by sudama at 2:45 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by sudama at 2:45 PM on November 15, 2000
Of course, this is also proof that Matt's a member of the cabal.
posted by daveadams at 2:55 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by daveadams at 2:55 PM on November 15, 2000
I'd suggest the word blogouisse, er, bloggouissie, er, but I can't spell it.
(I feel like such a bloghead...)
posted by BozLee at 3:14 PM on November 15, 2000
(I feel like such a bloghead...)
posted by BozLee at 3:14 PM on November 15, 2000
Nice to see you're all paying attention. The first rally will be on Saturday!
posted by Graham at 3:48 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by Graham at 3:48 PM on November 15, 2000
Watch out for the blogshit!
posted by PWA_BadBoy at 4:43 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by PWA_BadBoy at 4:43 PM on November 15, 2000
Blogfrastructure. Weight-balanced blogary tree. Blogolatry. Blogduck. Card catablog.
This whole blog-coinage thread reminds me of a Smurfs comic I had when I was a wee lad, in which the Smurfs split into two bitterly-opposed factions at loggerheads over the right way to translate compound words into Smurf. Should it be "fruitsmurf" or "smurfcake"?
posted by grimmelm at 5:56 PM on November 15, 2000
This whole blog-coinage thread reminds me of a Smurfs comic I had when I was a wee lad, in which the Smurfs split into two bitterly-opposed factions at loggerheads over the right way to translate compound words into Smurf. Should it be "fruitsmurf" or "smurfcake"?
posted by grimmelm at 5:56 PM on November 15, 2000
Or from SouthPark - the Marklar (or something like that). I guess all conversations must be in the form "blog blog blog? blog, blog, blog blog blog. Blog blog!"
This whole thread is making me smile again!
posted by skinnyjimmy at 8:46 PM on November 15, 2000
This whole thread is making me smile again!
posted by skinnyjimmy at 8:46 PM on November 15, 2000
Er, Grimmelm, shouldn't that be "at bloggerheads"?
posted by bradlands at 9:22 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by bradlands at 9:22 PM on November 15, 2000
totally agree with frykitty that the Dogme 95 film manifesto is totally different.....blogs aren't films...This whole argument isn't about technical or artistic purity, but Popularity, and attacks against the "Holy Circle" of web sites....and that is just too petty.
Web pages aren't films.
arrrg. so many things to take more seriously than who is friends with who, or who links to who.
posted by th3ph17 at 9:39 PM on November 15, 2000
Web pages aren't films.
arrrg. so many things to take more seriously than who is friends with who, or who links to who.
posted by th3ph17 at 9:39 PM on November 15, 2000
bradlands: point well taken, but I prefer "loggersmurfs"
posted by grimmelm at 10:34 PM on November 15, 2000
posted by grimmelm at 10:34 PM on November 15, 2000
(um, sorry to actually discuss something on-topic, but I only got around to reading the article now :-)
These decadents, however, have nothing better to do than talk about themselves
BWAAaAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA.
Holy shit, that's the funniest thing I've ever read. What the fuck else are you supposed to do with your blog? Am I not allowed to have a journal-style blog where I talk about my opinions and my thoughts and my life? Must I only post links? Screw that noise, there's other people out there who troll for links far better than I'm able to.
I write what I want to write, same as this supposed a-list. Yeesh.
(note, the "a-list" urls mentioned above are not for you. If you need to go to metafilter or blogger, use this and this instead. :-)
posted by cCranium at 6:10 AM on November 16, 2000
These decadents, however, have nothing better to do than talk about themselves
BWAAaAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA.
Holy shit, that's the funniest thing I've ever read. What the fuck else are you supposed to do with your blog? Am I not allowed to have a journal-style blog where I talk about my opinions and my thoughts and my life? Must I only post links? Screw that noise, there's other people out there who troll for links far better than I'm able to.
I write what I want to write, same as this supposed a-list. Yeesh.
(note, the "a-list" urls mentioned above are not for you. If you need to go to metafilter or blogger, use this and this instead. :-)
posted by cCranium at 6:10 AM on November 16, 2000
Ed, I was with ya, buddy. Right up until #10. Dang, I'm always having trouble with one commandment or another.
posted by bradlands at 8:26 AM on November 16, 2000
posted by bradlands at 8:26 AM on November 16, 2000
Cam's a little frisky today. His weblog must have gotten him laid again. ;-)
posted by bradlands at 2:47 PM on November 16, 2000
posted by bradlands at 2:47 PM on November 16, 2000
What else are you supposed to do other than talk about yourself?
Isn't that a slightly reduntant question? Given that whatever you say it's always going to reflect something about you? So whenever you talk you're talking about yourself to some extent. The trick, I would imagine, is to say things about something else at the same time. Which is easy if you're not doing a diary blog. There are other options than ldoing a link log.
posted by davidgentle at 3:47 PM on November 16, 2000
Isn't that a slightly reduntant question? Given that whatever you say it's always going to reflect something about you? So whenever you talk you're talking about yourself to some extent. The trick, I would imagine, is to say things about something else at the same time. Which is easy if you're not doing a diary blog. There are other options than ldoing a link log.
posted by davidgentle at 3:47 PM on November 16, 2000
Who put the blog in the bloghouse? You did, you did, baby...
posted by heather at 5:43 PM on November 16, 2000
posted by heather at 5:43 PM on November 16, 2000
test
posted by DoublePostGuy at 11:54 AM on November 22, 2000
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