July 7, 2002
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Hesham Mohamed Hadayat a jihad plant at L.A. airport Two pieces by this intelligence site claims that the L.A. shooter had connections that make his shooting more than a "casual" random act. Of course, these two reports will by some be dismissed as coming from a site run by Israelis (though not govt connected), but this site has a fairly good track record thus far in what it claims. Worth considering till our own FBI gives us The Real Truth.
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According to DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources
Is that like the snitch that Magnum P.I. used to go to when he needed underworld information? Cmon, Postroad, what's the hurry in labelling this as a terrorist event? I think everyone is comfortable with this being an isolated incident on moving on to their code-chartruese, extra-high alert weekend. Gimme another 20 spot, Magnum... That info will cost ya!
posted by machaus at 3:39 PM on July 7, 2002
Is that like the snitch that Magnum P.I. used to go to when he needed underworld information? Cmon, Postroad, what's the hurry in labelling this as a terrorist event? I think everyone is comfortable with this being an isolated incident on moving on to their code-chartruese, extra-high alert weekend. Gimme another 20 spot, Magnum... That info will cost ya!
posted by machaus at 3:39 PM on July 7, 2002
I think people who post links about one thing, almost always the same thing, over and over really ought to get their own blog and stop subjecting the rest of us to this tripe. Or start posting at LGF, they eat this stuff up over there. But not here so much.
posted by artifex at 3:41 PM on July 7, 2002
posted by artifex at 3:41 PM on July 7, 2002
Everyone hears what they want to believe.
If you want to think that the person who shot up LAX was working for the Palestinians, you will believe any evidence that supports it, and disregard anything that is contrary.
If, on the other hand, you want to believe it wasn't involved with terrorism you will pay more attention to reports that agree with that perspective. Or create conspiracy theories that support your position.
After all, couldn't it be possible the "shadow government" plants any info connecting the government to islamic extremists, in order to make us start taking the terrorism warnings more seriously.
It could also be possible that they were an islamic extremist or someone who just felt like shooting up an airport.
We all choose what we want to believe.
posted by drezdn at 4:29 PM on July 7, 2002
If you want to think that the person who shot up LAX was working for the Palestinians, you will believe any evidence that supports it, and disregard anything that is contrary.
If, on the other hand, you want to believe it wasn't involved with terrorism you will pay more attention to reports that agree with that perspective. Or create conspiracy theories that support your position.
After all, couldn't it be possible the "shadow government" plants any info connecting the government to islamic extremists, in order to make us start taking the terrorism warnings more seriously.
It could also be possible that they were an islamic extremist or someone who just felt like shooting up an airport.
We all choose what we want to believe.
posted by drezdn at 4:29 PM on July 7, 2002
I think people who post links about one thing, almost always the same thing, over and over really ought to get their own blog...
Oh, he has one! You can get there through his member page. It's not at all work safe, unless you work for Barely Legal magazine ;)
Back on topic, so who says the web isn't a rumor mill? A google search for this story returns only 14 results, 1 of them a newsource with merely the UPI story (nothing about the Egyptian Jihad in that), and nearly all the rest referencing the DEBKA piece. All these results seem to be warblogs: Nick Denton, RS Ballard, Little Green Footballs. Ahead of the news curve or spreading biased information as fact? You can never tell, but it's certainly true that if you breathlessly blog every potentially-true terrorist report, you'll get to be right a couple times. I'm glad Metafilter can be a part of that.
posted by RJ Reynolds at 5:05 PM on July 7, 2002
Oh, he has one! You can get there through his member page. It's not at all work safe, unless you work for Barely Legal magazine ;)
Back on topic, so who says the web isn't a rumor mill? A google search for this story returns only 14 results, 1 of them a newsource with merely the UPI story (nothing about the Egyptian Jihad in that), and nearly all the rest referencing the DEBKA piece. All these results seem to be warblogs: Nick Denton, RS Ballard, Little Green Footballs. Ahead of the news curve or spreading biased information as fact? You can never tell, but it's certainly true that if you breathlessly blog every potentially-true terrorist report, you'll get to be right a couple times. I'm glad Metafilter can be a part of that.
posted by RJ Reynolds at 5:05 PM on July 7, 2002
I guess some people just pop a boner every time they hallucinate an organized terrorism linkage. Most of the warblogs are essentially circle-jerks in this regard, with racist paranoia in place of, say, poppers.
I guess we all get off in our own ways. Some people like to fuck dead people and animals. Some people post links to Debka.
posted by donkeyschlong at 5:30 PM on July 7, 2002
I guess we all get off in our own ways. Some people like to fuck dead people and animals. Some people post links to Debka.
posted by donkeyschlong at 5:30 PM on July 7, 2002
Good lord Post...I mean, you seem pretty intelligent, but this one trick pony act that you insist on pulling is getting tiresome. Honestly, linking to Debka is the equivalent of someone linking to the anti-semitic crap at Stormfront as FPP "truth".
Really punkin, we all understand your point...I swear...we get it. From your perspective, Jews good, Arabs bad. Ok. Fine. I think we're all clear on your opinions.
Now, could you take your racism somewhere else? Instead of posting soft-porn (not work safe) on your blog, perhaps you should waste your own bandwidth and use your blog to tell people about how much you hate brown skinned people, write about how you think all who worship Allah are evil, tell everyone about how there's a massive conspiracy bent on destroying Judaism, Israel, and bagels with lox...but for God's sake, take it off the MeFi front page. Enough is enough already.
Have you ever reviewed your own posting history? Look at it sometime with the eyes of a stranger and you'll see that you come across every bit as racist and extreme as David Duke ever has. You have become a shandeh un a charpeh.
posted by dejah420 at 5:35 PM on July 7, 2002
Really punkin, we all understand your point...I swear...we get it. From your perspective, Jews good, Arabs bad. Ok. Fine. I think we're all clear on your opinions.
Now, could you take your racism somewhere else? Instead of posting soft-porn (not work safe) on your blog, perhaps you should waste your own bandwidth and use your blog to tell people about how much you hate brown skinned people, write about how you think all who worship Allah are evil, tell everyone about how there's a massive conspiracy bent on destroying Judaism, Israel, and bagels with lox...but for God's sake, take it off the MeFi front page. Enough is enough already.
Have you ever reviewed your own posting history? Look at it sometime with the eyes of a stranger and you'll see that you come across every bit as racist and extreme as David Duke ever has. You have become a shandeh un a charpeh.
posted by dejah420 at 5:35 PM on July 7, 2002
Look, Before we started our operation on Afghanistan, DEBKA was saying that China was massing lots of troups on the Afghan border to assist the taliban against America.
I don't have a problem with Israeli sources, but DEBKA is like the military equivelent of the national enquier
posted by delmoi at 5:56 PM on July 7, 2002
I don't have a problem with Israeli sources, but DEBKA is like the military equivelent of the national enquier
posted by delmoi at 5:56 PM on July 7, 2002
Egyptian. On July 4. At El Al. It's not like there's no evidence...
posted by ParisParamus at 6:21 PM on July 7, 2002
posted by ParisParamus at 6:21 PM on July 7, 2002
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