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Blog from the top of the world A blog from Everest could prove to be the most remote location for a web diary yet.
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There's at least one weblog from Antarctica.
posted by plep at 7:25 AM on April 28, 2003
There's at least one weblog from Antarctica.
posted by plep at 7:25 AM on April 28, 2003
Surely they must have done one from space, by now. I'm sure Kottke would volunteer.
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:27 AM on April 28, 2003
posted by Pretty_Generic at 7:27 AM on April 28, 2003
The Antarctica Log is excellent....brilliant photos....I like the bit right at the bottom where she talks of 10000 yr old ice for her Gin and Tonics...
posted by mattr at 7:47 AM on April 28, 2003
posted by mattr at 7:47 AM on April 28, 2003
gottabefunky: Why is Everest dull from a mountaineering perspective? What makes a "good" or an "exciting" mountain? What are some of those mountains?
you've peak-ed my interest...
posted by Vidiot at 8:00 AM on April 28, 2003
you've peak-ed my interest...
posted by Vidiot at 8:00 AM on April 28, 2003
For those that are interested, read Outside Magazine's archive of Everest stories, or visit the first internet cafe at the base of Everest.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:16 AM on April 28, 2003
posted by monju_bosatsu at 8:16 AM on April 28, 2003
If you'd like to see more of Everest then try out these 360 degree pictures from base camp 1 up to the summit.
Requires Quicktime and rather pretty.
posted by ciderwoman at 8:19 AM on April 28, 2003
Requires Quicktime and rather pretty.
posted by ciderwoman at 8:19 AM on April 28, 2003
Everest isn't considered as challenging a climb as peaks like K2.
It's also crowded, dirty, and tends to be covered with amateurs paying people to drag them up the mountain.
Of course, it can still kill you just as dead as any other pile of rocks, but mountains like K2 and others are considered more difficult.
In fact K2 pretty much tries to kill you for just even looking at it.
A climber named Greg Child has some interesting writings on big peaks and different climbers. Of course, Krakauer's Into Thin Air is what got mountaineering writing into the mainstream.
posted by dglynn at 8:35 AM on April 28, 2003
It's also crowded, dirty, and tends to be covered with amateurs paying people to drag them up the mountain.
Of course, it can still kill you just as dead as any other pile of rocks, but mountains like K2 and others are considered more difficult.
In fact K2 pretty much tries to kill you for just even looking at it.
A climber named Greg Child has some interesting writings on big peaks and different climbers. Of course, Krakauer's Into Thin Air is what got mountaineering writing into the mainstream.
posted by dglynn at 8:35 AM on April 28, 2003
from my limited understanding, everest is not a challenging CLIMB - the CLIMBING itself. assuming you are taking the 'standard' route, what makes everest a bitch is it's remoteness, the distances involved and the toxic altitude. if you can survive the weeks of walking, the loss of appetite, the loss of the ability to sleep, and the fog of stupidity which descends around your cranium, all due to oxygen deprivation, the actual CLIMBING isn't that difficult - from an experienced mountaineers perspective. didn't some guy literally crawl up the north face solo a few years back? THAT had to be challenging.
on preview, i learned most of this reading Krakauer's Into Thin Air.
posted by quonsar at 8:40 AM on April 28, 2003
on preview, i learned most of this reading Krakauer's Into Thin Air.
posted by quonsar at 8:40 AM on April 28, 2003
Everest is no longer even considered "remote" what with the helicopter approaches and the internet cafe at base camp.
The climbing doesn't even start until you're over 20,000 feet. If you take the 9,000 feet of actual climbing on the standard route on Everest you've got nothing but a tedious and dangerous (but not the 'fun' kind of dangerous) climb through an icefall, a long slog up a face, and a boring walk along a ridge. The only reason it's a challenge at all is because it's so high.
Take many other 8,000 meter peaks (such as K2) and the aesthetics are supposed to be so much better. More remote, cleaner, less 'no fear' t-shirt wearing clowns, and much prettier terrain to be climbing in.
Everest has become nothing but a trophy for the rich and "adventurous" and a cash cow for climbers who need to support themselves.
posted by bondcliff at 8:49 AM on April 28, 2003
The climbing doesn't even start until you're over 20,000 feet. If you take the 9,000 feet of actual climbing on the standard route on Everest you've got nothing but a tedious and dangerous (but not the 'fun' kind of dangerous) climb through an icefall, a long slog up a face, and a boring walk along a ridge. The only reason it's a challenge at all is because it's so high.
Take many other 8,000 meter peaks (such as K2) and the aesthetics are supposed to be so much better. More remote, cleaner, less 'no fear' t-shirt wearing clowns, and much prettier terrain to be climbing in.
Everest has become nothing but a trophy for the rich and "adventurous" and a cash cow for climbers who need to support themselves.
posted by bondcliff at 8:49 AM on April 28, 2003
What everyone above said. If you can climb a stairmaster for a week straight, wearing three sets of clothing and a 50-pound pack and breathing through only one nostril - and you're somewhat lucky - you can climb Everest. If you can afford it.
Most mountaineering is much more difficult, and interesting, than that.
posted by gottabefunky at 9:42 AM on April 28, 2003
Most mountaineering is much more difficult, and interesting, than that.
posted by gottabefunky at 9:42 AM on April 28, 2003
Now I'm curious - any members done Everest? Which Mefite has gone the highest?
I've hit 19,500' (5900 m) twice, on Kilimanjaro and Cotopaxi (Ecuador), and it almost killed me both times. Only thing the kept me going the second time was Billie Holiday on the CD player (What a little moonlight can do...)
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posted by gottabefunky at 9:47 AM on April 28, 2003
I've hit 19,500' (5900 m) twice, on Kilimanjaro and Cotopaxi (Ecuador), and it almost killed me both times. Only thing the kept me going the second time was Billie Holiday on the CD player (What a little moonlight can do...)
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posted by gottabefunky at 9:47 AM on April 28, 2003
Now I can understand how I must sound when I complain that Microsoft actually isn't that innovative, and there are plenty of other companies to admire (more) for their contributions to the tech world.
Everest will always be mistakenly understood by the public as the biggest challenge because it has the highest elevation. Big deal. Microsoft, on the other hand ... ;)
posted by jragon at 10:05 AM on April 28, 2003
Everest will always be mistakenly understood by the public as the biggest challenge because it has the highest elevation. Big deal. Microsoft, on the other hand ... ;)
posted by jragon at 10:05 AM on April 28, 2003
From the BBC link: "Mr Gariano has a much more mundane day job - tending the pot plants at the KMI's laboratories. "
"Dude, what mountain?"
posted by joaquim at 10:25 AM on April 28, 2003
"Dude, what mountain?"
posted by joaquim at 10:25 AM on April 28, 2003
i've hit 14,000 ft a few times, snowmass peak in colorado, the maroon bells, and a couple other random 14'ers in colo. i've climed a bit in the hindu kush outside the city limits of kabul a few years back, that was some incredible climbing, but no one had an altimiter or GPS, so i've no idea how high i actually was.
posted by quadrinary at 12:39 PM on April 28, 2003
posted by quadrinary at 12:39 PM on April 28, 2003
I've been just shy of 14,000 feet at the top of Mauna Kea on two occasions (by car, mind you), and I felt a little lightheaded there. It's hard to imagine what a sustained trip to twice that altitude would be like.
posted by Songdog at 12:47 PM on April 28, 2003
posted by Songdog at 12:47 PM on April 28, 2003
14,211 on Rainier and I've got the PEZ dispenser to prove it.
My dreams of climbing Denali were interrupted by Real Life(tm).
posted by bondcliff at 12:48 PM on April 28, 2003
My dreams of climbing Denali were interrupted by Real Life(tm).
posted by bondcliff at 12:48 PM on April 28, 2003
That 360 degree pictures link is really cool.
I'm keeping a mundane little blog for my friends and family while I'm at the South Pole (which incidently is at 10635ft). We use old military satellites such as LES and Marisat for internet connectivity. A lot of us down here are internet junkies, especially now that it's dark. We may have the "most remote location" thing in the can.
posted by culberjo at 11:33 PM on April 28, 2003
I'm keeping a mundane little blog for my friends and family while I'm at the South Pole (which incidently is at 10635ft). We use old military satellites such as LES and Marisat for internet connectivity. A lot of us down here are internet junkies, especially now that it's dark. We may have the "most remote location" thing in the can.
posted by culberjo at 11:33 PM on April 28, 2003
In this context, does remote mean farthest away (if so, from what?), or accessible to the least people, or something else? I wonder whether there's a blog from earth orbit ;)
By the way, culberjo, great site (I like your photos!). You've got to be the most remotely located Mefite.
posted by Songdog at 5:42 AM on April 30, 2003
By the way, culberjo, great site (I like your photos!). You've got to be the most remotely located Mefite.
posted by Songdog at 5:42 AM on April 30, 2003
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Enough about Everest, already. Not a bash on the post, but just the media's obsession with this very high but (from a mountaineering perspective) actually quite dull mountain. It's becoming the geographical equivalent of Michael Jackson.
Or maybe it's a good thing - focus attention on this peak and leave the rest of the interesting, aesthetic, and/or truly challenging ones alone...
posted by gottabefunky at 7:23 AM on April 28, 2003