How do you keep track of your president?
September 15, 2003 12:48 PM Subscribe
How do you keep track of your president? "I believe everyone should be held responsible for their own personal behavior." -- George Bush. Moveon agrees. They're helping track what was said, who said it, and if it is true.
See "converted, preaching to"
posted by RylandDotNet at 1:14 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by RylandDotNet at 1:14 PM on September 15, 2003
Will they point out things he's told the truth about? It would increase credibility.
I myself find that I'm disinclined to believe anything he says. The funny thing is, though, if you listen to him carefully, you realize that he actually is telling you in general terms what his administration's agenda is.
posted by namespan at 1:15 PM on September 15, 2003
I myself find that I'm disinclined to believe anything he says. The funny thing is, though, if you listen to him carefully, you realize that he actually is telling you in general terms what his administration's agenda is.
posted by namespan at 1:15 PM on September 15, 2003
Didn't mean to get in the pulpit. I was trying to say that such a compilation is useful to those of us who might be engaged in debate this next year.
posted by ahimsakid at 1:21 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by ahimsakid at 1:21 PM on September 15, 2003
Sixteen untrue words in the President's State of the Union message helped push American into war with Iraq.
Helped push? I think there were other people also involved in pushing a war resolution.
posted by tomplus2 at 1:21 PM on September 15, 2003
Helped push? I think there were other people also involved in pushing a war resolution.
posted by tomplus2 at 1:21 PM on September 15, 2003
No typo fletchmuy. When you peel away an onion's layers you get nothing at all. (Also see: the Onion)
posted by ahimsakid at 1:23 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by ahimsakid at 1:23 PM on September 15, 2003
Personally, I think that this picture taken on Friday says it all.
:D
posted by lowlife at 1:52 PM on September 15, 2003
:D
posted by lowlife at 1:52 PM on September 15, 2003
Why oh why can't they come out with a Miss Leader? That'd be ever so much cooler.
posted by DenOfSizer at 2:10 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by DenOfSizer at 2:10 PM on September 15, 2003
Then there are the artfully crafted weasel-worded statements that might be technically accurate (cf. Clinton era) but are designed to convey untruths, such as saying that Iraq posessed and used weapons of mass destruction to imply that we have proved any recent possession.
posted by xian at 5:14 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by xian at 5:14 PM on September 15, 2003
Wow. Where are all the snarky ones to complain about this post after getting my first (and only) FPP nuked recently?
posted by AstroGuy at 5:21 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by AstroGuy at 5:21 PM on September 15, 2003
Astroguy: It's a benevolent dictatorship over here. If you got complainin' to do, talk to the man in charge.
posted by bshort at 5:59 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by bshort at 5:59 PM on September 15, 2003
FWIW, AstroGuy, when I got the notice about this in the mail, I thought of posting it, but didn't think it front-page worthy (sorry, ?!) - I did think it would be a good addition to some Bush thread, so I came to see if there was an appropriate one, and it was at the top of the front page.
That said, it is a little different case - and according to Matt, yours was a double post as well.
Back on topic: Anyone who hasn't clicked on the image lowlife posted oughta do so. It's perfect.
posted by soyjoy at 7:04 PM on September 15, 2003
That said, it is a little different case - and according to Matt, yours was a double post as well.
Back on topic: Anyone who hasn't clicked on the image lowlife posted oughta do so. It's perfect.
posted by soyjoy at 7:04 PM on September 15, 2003
Why can't this effort be more broad-based? Set up so it can track any 'promise', mis-statement, or outright lie of the government?
posted by rough ashlar at 7:47 PM on September 15, 2003
posted by rough ashlar at 7:47 PM on September 15, 2003
Here is my photoshop of the Bush 'Salute'.
http://brettsky.com/bushsalute.gif
posted by graventy at 8:49 PM on September 15, 2003
http://brettsky.com/bushsalute.gif
posted by graventy at 8:49 PM on September 15, 2003
It's ok soyjoy. I'm 188 MeFites younger than you and still prone to impertinent front page posts.
rough: I don't think there is enough time or web space to track all that.
posted by ?! at 9:15 PM on September 16, 2003
rough: I don't think there is enough time or web space to track all that.
posted by ?! at 9:15 PM on September 16, 2003
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Their full analysis of his misleading State of the Onion is found here.
It provides a fairly reasonable summary of his pattern of decption and should be pointed out to our friends and neighbors who believe the Resident is something more than a lying sack 'o shit.
posted by ahimsakid at 1:08 PM on September 15, 2003