A pirates life for me
September 19, 2003 12:03 AM Subscribe
Avast! Tis a great, grand logo o'er thar.
posted by hugsnkisses at 12:08 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by hugsnkisses at 12:08 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrr! Is this Internet something I need to be a land-lubbin' swab to know about?
posted by Space Coyote at 12:12 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by Space Coyote at 12:12 AM on September 19, 2003
but... but... Matt, you're Double Posting!
*head explodes*
*community applauds*
posted by wendell at 12:35 AM on September 19, 2003
*head explodes*
*community applauds*
posted by wendell at 12:35 AM on September 19, 2003
well i guess we all better get our pirate names out... i be Iron Grace Cash and i demand someone swash my buckle! aaAaaRrrr!
posted by t r a c y at 12:41 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by t r a c y at 12:41 AM on September 19, 2003
..and here's a very informative chart comparing Pirate Talk to Gangsta Rap Talk.
yes, I can post comments without a head, but I'll bet most of you have known that for a long time...
posted by wendell at 12:44 AM on September 19, 2003
yes, I can post comments without a head, but I'll bet most of you have known that for a long time...
posted by wendell at 12:44 AM on September 19, 2003
Avast! Smartly uncork the bung hole, pour Miguel his grog and watch him dance the Hornpipe!
posted by anathema at 1:18 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by anathema at 1:18 AM on September 19, 2003
Fnaar!
Q: What's a pirate's favorite aspect of computational linguistics?
A: PARRRsing sentences.
Q: Of which concept shared by Jungian psychology and Northrop Frye's literary theory are pirates especially fond?
A: ARRRchetype.
MoARRRre heYARRre!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:43 AM on September 19, 2003
Q: What's a pirate's favorite aspect of computational linguistics?
A: PARRRsing sentences.
Q: Of which concept shared by Jungian psychology and Northrop Frye's literary theory are pirates especially fond?
A: ARRRchetype.
MoARRRre heYARRre!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 1:43 AM on September 19, 2003
In San Francisco, don't forget to pay a visit to the pirate store operated by Dave Eggers' 826 Valencia writing center. I haven't been yet, but my partner keeps urging it. Maybe today's the day...
posted by troybob at 1:49 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by troybob at 1:49 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrr. That kids' dictionary is a farce, I tell ye! Any sea dog who's read a Hornblower novel knows that "avast" means "stop."
posted by jkilg at 1:54 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by jkilg at 1:54 AM on September 19, 2003
tracy, do ye want your swash buckled or your buckle swashed?
posted by twine42 at 2:24 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by twine42 at 2:24 AM on September 19, 2003
Thanks, nthdegx, matey. Arr, this be my favorite :
Q: Why does that pirate keep reciting poetry, anyway? Is he some sort of Nancy-boy?
A: Aye, 'tis a Nancy-boy he be. Arrr.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:29 AM on September 19, 2003
Q: Why does that pirate keep reciting poetry, anyway? Is he some sort of Nancy-boy?
A: Aye, 'tis a Nancy-boy he be. Arrr.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:29 AM on September 19, 2003
Geez, mefites were a lot more fun this time last year! Everyone took the quiz and made with the funny.
ARRR I be Dirty Mary Kidd and if you're not careful I'll poop your deck! ARRrrR!
posted by zarah at 3:36 AM on September 19, 2003
ARRR I be Dirty Mary Kidd and if you're not careful I'll poop your deck! ARRrrR!
posted by zarah at 3:36 AM on September 19, 2003
Geez, mefites were a lot more fun this time last year!
You know, except Cap'n Wonderchook, because that scurvy cur reckoned those IntARRnet What Is My X/What X Am I? gadgets unworthy and fucking annoying and deserving of a good keelhauling, not to mention a scurvy, cowardly excuse to wave yer sword about without actually using any brain cells, and still does, by Crom (whoops, mixing idioms there)! So go swab the poop deck and poop the swabs when you're done, zarah!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:50 AM on September 19, 2003
You know, except Cap'n Wonderchook, because that scurvy cur reckoned those IntARRnet What Is My X/What X Am I? gadgets unworthy and fucking annoying and deserving of a good keelhauling, not to mention a scurvy, cowardly excuse to wave yer sword about without actually using any brain cells, and still does, by Crom (whoops, mixing idioms there)! So go swab the poop deck and poop the swabs when you're done, zarah!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:50 AM on September 19, 2003
Dread Pirate Kidd, that is. On the whole, I prefer Cap'n Wonderchook, though....
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:53 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 3:53 AM on September 19, 2003
Apparently, I'm Dirty Roger Kidd
You're the pirate everyone else wants to throw in the ocean -- not to get rid of you, you understand; just to get rid of the smell. Even though you're not always the traditional swaggering gallant, your steadiness and planning make you a fine, reliable pirate. Arr!
Impressive. Who told'em ?
And, err... Arrr!
posted by XiBe at 3:59 AM on September 19, 2003
You're the pirate everyone else wants to throw in the ocean -- not to get rid of you, you understand; just to get rid of the smell. Even though you're not always the traditional swaggering gallant, your steadiness and planning make you a fine, reliable pirate. Arr!
Impressive. Who told'em ?
And, err... Arrr!
posted by XiBe at 3:59 AM on September 19, 2003
i demand someone swash my buckle!
t r a c y, me timber could be using a shiver or two, yaarrrr...
posted by quonsar at 4:05 AM on September 19, 2003
t r a c y, me timber could be using a shiver or two, yaarrrr...
posted by quonsar at 4:05 AM on September 19, 2003
You guessed it everybody, time to pirate some land lubbin music!
posted by Keyser Soze at 4:19 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 4:19 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrr. You have a woman's hand, milord! I'll wager these dainty pinkies never weighed anchor in a storm.
posted by seanyboy at 4:26 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by seanyboy at 4:26 AM on September 19, 2003
Of course, I can't help but think of bloodninja (from the J-Dogg thread):
bloodninja: Ok. I need your help getting excited though.
bloodninja: Are you willing?
sweet17: What do you need me to do?
bloodninja: I need you talk like a pirate.
sweet17: ???
bloodninja: When I start to go limp... you say "HARRRR!!!"
posted by jennak at 4:26 AM on September 19, 2003
bloodninja: Ok. I need your help getting excited though.
bloodninja: Are you willing?
sweet17: What do you need me to do?
bloodninja: I need you talk like a pirate.
sweet17: ???
bloodninja: When I start to go limp... you say "HARRRR!!!"
posted by jennak at 4:26 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrrr. And here be the whole of that fantastic episode. Arrr
posted by seanyboy at 4:28 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by seanyboy at 4:28 AM on September 19, 2003
Has anyone of ye baked a cake for this happy occassion? Arrrr!
posted by jennak at 4:34 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by jennak at 4:34 AM on September 19, 2003
Heck. I'm holding out for "Walk Like a Pirate Day."
posted by jpburns at 4:36 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by jpburns at 4:36 AM on September 19, 2003
Sorry to be a pirate party pooper, but it's probably not a good idea to allow ftp access to copyrighted material via MeFi.
OK Keyser, walk the plank. Arrrrrrr.
posted by anathema at 4:45 AM on September 19, 2003
OK Keyser, walk the plank. Arrrrrrr.
posted by anathema at 4:45 AM on September 19, 2003
Sorry to be a pirate party pooper, but it's probably not a good idea to allow ftp access to copyrighted material via MeFi.
For the third time, as I count. Yarr. Worryingly persistent, this scurvy cur.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:52 AM on September 19, 2003
For the third time, as I count. Yarr. Worryingly persistent, this scurvy cur.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 4:52 AM on September 19, 2003
I got permission from the Aqua Bats on this one, thats why theres only one song.
posted by Keyser Soze at 5:15 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 5:15 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrrr.
posted by Keyser Soze at 5:15 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by Keyser Soze at 5:15 AM on September 19, 2003
Nice work, matey!
[Hopefully the band actually owns their own music.]
posted by anathema at 5:20 AM on September 19, 2003
[Hopefully the band actually owns their own music.]
posted by anathema at 5:20 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrrr. It be a good thing to be sure, piratical speakin'. But one day a year, mates, just t'ain't enough like. I've been practicin' my piratey lingo.
posted by jacquilynne at 5:29 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by jacquilynne at 5:29 AM on September 19, 2003
Did you you hear about the new pirate movie?
It's rated ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
I'll be here all week, ya scurvy dogs!
posted by tommasz at 5:57 AM on September 19, 2003
It's rated ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
I'll be here all week, ya scurvy dogs!
posted by tommasz at 5:57 AM on September 19, 2003
Did you hear about the pirate that sailed to China?
He died of SAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRS!
posted by Stan Chin at 6:19 AM on September 19, 2003
He died of SAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRS!
posted by Stan Chin at 6:19 AM on September 19, 2003
Yarr!
I was watching a show about pirates on Discovery with my wife recently, and they were explaining how pirates would board a ship and either steal all of its cargo, or just capture the crew and tow the ship back to port. And they also pointed out that most ships were loaded with goods for trade, not gold and silver and whatnot. Which immediately made me wonder how they got rid of all those landlubber goods yaaaaar. And I couldn't help picturing a pirate wandering around a crowded shopping bazaar, buttonholing unwary passersby and trying to unload his latest cargo, with phrases such as: "Yaaaar! Need ye some flax?"
So on this national day of joy, I urge you all to remember that pirating wasn't all about doubloons and pieces 'o' eight, and throw in a few well timed questions such as "Yaaar! Be ye wantin' a shipload of melon?" "Shiver me fine straight-hewn timbers, 75 percent off!" or the ever popular "Need ye some flax?"
posted by rusty at 6:26 AM on September 19, 2003
I was watching a show about pirates on Discovery with my wife recently, and they were explaining how pirates would board a ship and either steal all of its cargo, or just capture the crew and tow the ship back to port. And they also pointed out that most ships were loaded with goods for trade, not gold and silver and whatnot. Which immediately made me wonder how they got rid of all those landlubber goods yaaaaar. And I couldn't help picturing a pirate wandering around a crowded shopping bazaar, buttonholing unwary passersby and trying to unload his latest cargo, with phrases such as: "Yaaaar! Need ye some flax?"
So on this national day of joy, I urge you all to remember that pirating wasn't all about doubloons and pieces 'o' eight, and throw in a few well timed questions such as "Yaaar! Be ye wantin' a shipload of melon?" "Shiver me fine straight-hewn timbers, 75 percent off!" or the ever popular "Need ye some flax?"
posted by rusty at 6:26 AM on September 19, 2003
Yarr! Did ye be hearin' about the pirate that walked into the bARRRRR with a steerin' wheel attached to the front o' his pants? The bARRRRtender comes up to serve 'im, and the pirate demands a rum and coke. (Because he's a pirate, and pirates love rum... and coke...) The bARRRtender gives a funny look to the steerin' wheel, but fixes the drink and brings it to the cap'n. Finally, his curiosity gets the better of 'im, and he asks the pirate, "Did ye know there's a steerin' wheel in the front o' yer pants?" To which the pirate replies, "Yarr, it's drivin' me nuts!"
--Fancy Pants Pete
posted by UKnowForKids at 6:49 AM on September 19, 2003
--Fancy Pants Pete
posted by UKnowForKids at 6:49 AM on September 19, 2003
Better a "lapdog to a slip of a girl", than a... git.
posted by nthdegx at 6:58 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by nthdegx at 6:58 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrr, and where do you think a pirate keeps his buccaneers?
On his buckin' 'ead. Arrrr.
posted by yhbc at 7:00 AM on September 19, 2003
On his buckin' 'ead. Arrrr.
posted by yhbc at 7:00 AM on September 19, 2003
Yarrrr, I be thankin' ye, seaaaarrnyboy, fer that remindarrrrr of one-a me blessed favorite Blackaddarrrrrr episodes. Ye be truly a nautical cove, that y'arrrrrr!
posted by soyjoy at 7:10 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by soyjoy at 7:10 AM on September 19, 2003
Ahoy, mateys - who of ye scurvy dogs will untangle the rigging of Captain Bess Rackham! Arrr!
It is oddly satisfying...
posted by widdershins at 7:17 AM on September 19, 2003
It is oddly satisfying...
posted by widdershins at 7:17 AM on September 19, 2003
I'm Iron Sam Cash and I swash me own buckle till it shines like the sun. Ouch. And lookee, I'm an arr-teest!
This is so damn silly without the rum.
posted by Shane at 7:18 AM on September 19, 2003
This is so damn silly without the rum.
posted by Shane at 7:18 AM on September 19, 2003
This is so damn silly without the rum.
I am finding soju to be an adequate alco-placebo. Chingu yaarrreyo!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:23 AM on September 19, 2003
I am finding soju to be an adequate alco-placebo. Chingu yaarrreyo!
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:23 AM on September 19, 2003
RRRrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!
/dyslexic pirate.
posted by Ufez Jones at 7:26 AM on September 19, 2003
/dyslexic pirate.
posted by Ufez Jones at 7:26 AM on September 19, 2003
So a pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel tied to his penis. He walks up to the bar and orders a Rum and Coke.
The bartender looks at him and just says "Dude, why is there a sterring wheel tied to your penis?"
The pirate replies "Arrr, it drives me nuts."
posted by logovisual at 8:22 AM on September 19, 2003
The bartender looks at him and just says "Dude, why is there a sterring wheel tied to your penis?"
The pirate replies "Arrr, it drives me nuts."
posted by logovisual at 8:22 AM on September 19, 2003
If the rum flows loose enough with me mateys here, t'wouldn't be a surprise to find a bit of jolly rogerin' goin on before the sun goes down.
posted by madamjujujive at 8:23 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by madamjujujive at 8:23 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrr, and I say we keel-haul the next bilge-rat that tells the "drives me nuts" joke. 'tis the fourth time I've seen it t'day, swabbie, and the sun ain't even over the yardarm yet. Arrr.
posted by yhbc at 8:29 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by yhbc at 8:29 AM on September 19, 2003
Avast, ye scurvy swabs! That be twice the bad joke about the steerin' wheel be told in this thread. The next foul knave who tells it walks the plank straight to Davy Jones, I says!
posted by dnash at 8:30 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by dnash at 8:30 AM on September 19, 2003
Billions of bilious blue blistering barnacles, ye dictatorial duck billed diplodocus!
There be no pirate talker more verbose than Captain Haddock, of the TinTin books ye thundering son of a sea-gherkin!
Read upon his mighty lexicon and dispair. All other pirate talkers are addle-pated lumps of anthracite!
posted by DragonBoy at 8:33 AM on September 19, 2003
There be no pirate talker more verbose than Captain Haddock, of the TinTin books ye thundering son of a sea-gherkin!
Read upon his mighty lexicon and dispair. All other pirate talkers are addle-pated lumps of anthracite!
posted by DragonBoy at 8:33 AM on September 19, 2003
Pirates' rules and stuff.
*dances hornpipe*
*gets tatoo*
posted by asok at 8:33 AM on September 19, 2003
*dances hornpipe*
*gets tatoo*
posted by asok at 8:33 AM on September 19, 2003
Re Pirate rules:
"If any Man shall lose a Joint in time of an Engagement he shall have 400 pieces of Eight; if a limb 800. "
That's a hefty price on weed. ;)
posted by DragonBoy at 8:43 AM on September 19, 2003
"If any Man shall lose a Joint in time of an Engagement he shall have 400 pieces of Eight; if a limb 800. "
That's a hefty price on weed. ;)
posted by DragonBoy at 8:43 AM on September 19, 2003
YAR! hand over yer wheat you scurvy billge rats, or else you'll find out why they call me the Pink Fuzzy Bunny!
posted by Pink Fuzzy Bunny at 8:48 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by Pink Fuzzy Bunny at 8:48 AM on September 19, 2003
Did you you hear about the new pirate movie?
It's rated ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Aye - because of all the booty!
posted by nickmark at 8:57 AM on September 19, 2003
It's rated ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
Aye - because of all the booty!
posted by nickmark at 8:57 AM on September 19, 2003
Ahoy! I've got me trusty parrot Mango, (no-really I do) and I'm ready to pillage the ships! Get ready, ye scurvy gutter dogs!
posted by aacheson at 8:57 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by aacheson at 8:57 AM on September 19, 2003
Put 'im in a scupper with a hose-pipe in 'im
Put 'im in a scupper with a hose-pipe in 'im
Put 'im in a scupper with a hose-pipe in 'im
Earl-lie-ay in the mo-or-ning!
-- Black James Flint
(The Sea is Me Pesky Little Brother Who Keeps Going Through My Stuff, ARRRRR!!)
posted by LinusMines at 10:27 AM on September 19, 2003
Put 'im in a scupper with a hose-pipe in 'im
Put 'im in a scupper with a hose-pipe in 'im
Earl-lie-ay in the mo-or-ning!
-- Black James Flint
(The Sea is Me Pesky Little Brother Who Keeps Going Through My Stuff, ARRRRR!!)
posted by LinusMines at 10:27 AM on September 19, 2003
Bloody Anne Flint here, ye scurvy dogs. And cast yer eyes on this genre-mixing image of Capt. Frodo.
posted by Lynsey at 10:33 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by Lynsey at 10:33 AM on September 19, 2003
Good night mathowie, good work, sleep well, I'll most likely kill you in the morning.
posted by ewagoner at 10:46 AM on September 19, 2003
posted by ewagoner at 10:46 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrrrrrr! Ye land lubbin' fools aren't no pirates! Ah've raped an' murdered more women, men, babies an' monkeys, sank more ships full of nuns an' caught more diseases than the lot of you dogs together!
Arrrrrrrrrrr, now if ya get outta mah way ah can get this wench to finish cleaning the rot out from between mah toes.... put yer tongue into it, wench! Else ah'm gonna run my sword through yer belly, yar!
posted by bargle at 11:27 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrrrrrrrrrr, now if ya get outta mah way ah can get this wench to finish cleaning the rot out from between mah toes.... put yer tongue into it, wench! Else ah'm gonna run my sword through yer belly, yar!
posted by bargle at 11:27 AM on September 19, 2003
Yarr, 'tis off to Davey Jones' Locker for ye, for some swashbucklin' seafloor visualisations, deli sandwiches and Monkees memorabilia.
proving that pirates aren't the new monkeys, they'e the old monkees.
posted by arto at 11:54 AM on September 19, 2003
proving that pirates aren't the new monkeys, they'e the old monkees.
posted by arto at 11:54 AM on September 19, 2003
Arrr, scurvy knaves!
Or, er...
Aarrgg?
I have to admit, it's Robert Newton's pirate impression I think of, when I say Arrr...
"...rock drummer Keith Moon was heavily influenced by his hero's performance in Treasure Island, often mugging and speaking just like his Long John Silver.
...Jaws offers two Robert Newton impersonations in one film...
...The cartoon series SpongeBob Squarepants regularly pays homage to Robert Newton...
...A Monty Python's Flying Circus sketch features a rugby match between teams called the Bournemouth Gynecologists and the Watford Long John Silver Impersonators. The Gynecologists easily beat the Impersonators, who lean immobile on their crutches, snarling "Arrr, Jim lad ..." in Newtonian tones."
When I was but a wee lass me father read me the book at bedtime, but I only seem to remember his Long John Silver impressions.
Arrrr, Jim!
Perhaps I should reread...
posted by batgrlHG at 12:49 PM on September 19, 2003
Or, er...
Aarrgg?
I have to admit, it's Robert Newton's pirate impression I think of, when I say Arrr...
"...rock drummer Keith Moon was heavily influenced by his hero's performance in Treasure Island, often mugging and speaking just like his Long John Silver.
...Jaws offers two Robert Newton impersonations in one film...
...The cartoon series SpongeBob Squarepants regularly pays homage to Robert Newton...
...A Monty Python's Flying Circus sketch features a rugby match between teams called the Bournemouth Gynecologists and the Watford Long John Silver Impersonators. The Gynecologists easily beat the Impersonators, who lean immobile on their crutches, snarling "Arrr, Jim lad ..." in Newtonian tones."
When I was but a wee lass me father read me the book at bedtime, but I only seem to remember his Long John Silver impressions.
Arrrr, Jim!
Perhaps I should reread...
posted by batgrlHG at 12:49 PM on September 19, 2003
Mateys, this old buckaneer has been hired to play a pirate on a local children's TV show. I credit Metafiltarrrrrrrrr.
posted by Joey Michaels at 12:52 PM on September 19, 2003
posted by Joey Michaels at 12:52 PM on September 19, 2003
Everyone took the quiz and made with the funny.
Now I'm wondering how I missed my site getting Metafiltered last year.
posted by fidelity at 1:25 PM on September 19, 2003
Now I'm wondering how I missed my site getting Metafiltered last year.
posted by fidelity at 1:25 PM on September 19, 2003
Arrrr, Joey, that's fine cheer. Ahoy!
And a great hoisted flagon o' mead to all of ye who keep postin' the pirate-related links on this here thread instead o' spillin' yer cargo all overrrr the MF front page!
Who're the true pirate leaders on this bountiful day? Y'arrrrrr!
posted by soyjoy at 1:32 PM on September 19, 2003
And a great hoisted flagon o' mead to all of ye who keep postin' the pirate-related links on this here thread instead o' spillin' yer cargo all overrrr the MF front page!
Who're the true pirate leaders on this bountiful day? Y'arrrrrr!
posted by soyjoy at 1:32 PM on September 19, 2003
Today, roughly 10,000 students at my university received an email about reducing future attacks on the school's network due to the most recently discovered vulnerability in microsoft's operating systems. After emphasizing the serious nature of the email, the university's Vice President for Information Technology went on to note that today is "Talk Like A Pirate Day", provided a link to talklikeapirate.com, and summed up his email as follows:
"Avast me Mateys! Be ye prepared for the bilge rat viruses a'comin? Smartly, me lads and lasses, be ye updating y'r computer or we be comin to get ye scurvy dogs and banish ye to be a network lubber! Aarrrr"
posted by darainwa at 2:14 PM on September 19, 2003
"Avast me Mateys! Be ye prepared for the bilge rat viruses a'comin? Smartly, me lads and lasses, be ye updating y'r computer or we be comin to get ye scurvy dogs and banish ye to be a network lubber! Aarrrr"
posted by darainwa at 2:14 PM on September 19, 2003
Where do software pirates keep their booty?
On CDRrrrrrrrrrrrrrs!
posted by inpHilltr8r at 2:21 PM on September 19, 2003
On CDRrrrrrrrrrrrrrs!
posted by inpHilltr8r at 2:21 PM on September 19, 2003
I'll be seein' ye in Davy Jones's locker, me mateys!
And here's my impression of a pirate at the opthalmologist:
Arr! Aye! Arr! Aye! Eee! Aye! Ohh! Arr!
I'll be here all week. Enjoy the veal!
posted by Sidhedevil at 2:34 PM on September 19, 2003
And here's my impression of a pirate at the opthalmologist:
Arr! Aye! Arr! Aye! Eee! Aye! Ohh! Arr!
I'll be here all week. Enjoy the veal!
posted by Sidhedevil at 2:34 PM on September 19, 2003
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I had to change mefi to the default blue to see this, but it's worth it. Happy pirate day.
posted by jokeefe at 12:06 AM on September 19, 2003