Aristophanes: the Michael Moore of his day.

July 18, 2004 11:18 AM

Aristophanes: the Michael Moore of his day.
posted by stbalbach (27 comments total)

Aristophanes...forever to be remembered as Felix's Password clue on "The Odd Couple."



(everyone knows that Aristophanes wrote a play called "The Birds")
posted by Oriole Adams at 11:49 AM on July 18, 2004

Are you suggesting that Aristophanes was a physically obese nihilist with a talent for making slanderous, lie-filled documentary films that seduced large numbers of people with undeveloped critical minds? I thought motion picture technology only dated to the late 1800's.
posted by ParisParamus at 11:56 AM on July 18, 2004

Paris, as usual, try reading the article. It's the title.
posted by dobbs at 11:59 AM on July 18, 2004

Dale Peck: the Aristophanes of today.

(PP: are you saying that The Clouds is an accurate representation of Socrates? There really was a Thinkery?)
posted by kenko at 12:00 PM on July 18, 2004

PP: Care to cite actual lies or would you rather continue offering us slanderous, lie-filled rhetoric from your underdeveloped critical mind?
posted by xmutex at 1:27 PM on July 18, 2004

my stew shake brings all the girls by the yard,
for this cheese I must unlearn,
a lot of damage to my hair.
posted by quonsar at 1:59 PM on July 18, 2004

Odd.. FPP requires a login/pass when it was not before.

Here's a login that will work.
posted by stbalbach at 2:04 PM on July 18, 2004

Are you suggesting that Aristophanes was a physically obese nihilist with a talent for making slanderous, lie-filled documentary films that seduced large numbers of people with undeveloped critical minds?

This sentence is less ambiguous when "documentary films" is replaced with "arguments for war". Then it's clear that we're both talking about Dick Cheney.
posted by bafflegab at 2:19 PM on July 18, 2004

you mean like Connor Oberst was the next Dylan? hah! hacks!
posted by Satapher at 4:19 PM on July 18, 2004

stbalbach: are you suggesting that aristophanes was a physically obese leftist whose popular appeal and belief in speaking truth to power made him hated by the corporate media and the rich? i thought and the existence of an unscrupulous ruling elite only dated back to the late 1800's.
posted by louigi at 7:38 PM on July 18, 2004

obligatory observation of and apology for extra "and" ends here.
posted by louigi at 7:45 PM on July 18, 2004

that aristophanes was a physically obese leftist

Why specify physically obese? Can one be emotionally obese?
posted by dhoyt at 8:01 PM on July 18, 2004

It's astonishing that my comment yields serious, or even semi-serious responses. Lies, for a start, check the Hitchens article in Slate.com. add in the fact that the Bush Administration was acting on reasonable assessments of the intelligence available to it. And then, add in the fact that Michael Moore is a certified asshole.
posted by ParisParamus at 8:51 PM on July 18, 2004

Are you suggesting that Aristophanes was a physically obese nihilist with a talent for making slanderous, lie-filled documentary films that seduced large numbers of people with undeveloped critical minds? I thought motion picture technology only dated to the late 1800's.

He's actually a devout Roman Catholic. But don't let the distinct lack of knowledge contained within your undeveloped critical mind get in the way of your slanderous lying.

It's astonishing that my comment yields serious, or even semi-serious responses. Lies, for a start, check the Hitchens article in Slate.com. add in the fact that the Bush Administration was acting on reasonable assessments of the intelligence available to it. And then, add in the fact that Michael Moore is a certified asshole.

Hitchens article was hysterical nonsense brought upon by the downward spiral of his sensibility and journalistic integrity. The rest is just your usual bullshit, simplified down to such an extent that its essentially worthless to any meaningful discussion, which is ironically what makes the first bit--why anything you say yields serious responses--the only cogent point of two entire posts.

Asshole!
posted by The God Complex at 11:45 PM on July 18, 2004

Hmmm. Euripides was actually the much more progressive playright as far as social issues went. Indeed, attacking Cleon wasn't enitrely unlike doing a Clinton BJ joke, in my opinion. Aristophones was, again in my opinion, a conservative comedian in the mold of Jay Leno.
posted by Joey Michaels at 4:43 AM on July 19, 2004

Why does he hate Greece?
posted by pmurray63 at 4:54 AM on July 19, 2004

Aristophanes vs. Michael Moore? But both are my friends, I cannot be judge, and neither would I have for an enemy. One is so clever, and the other delights me.
posted by wobh at 6:14 AM on July 19, 2004

Lies, for a start, check the Hitchens article in Slate.com.

Well, that's a little strong. I wouldn't necessarily call the Hitchens article "Lies," just wild-eyed bloviation, for the most part.

This reminds me of when hama7 so helpfully pointed us to the Hitchens article. Good times.
posted by soyjoy at 7:09 AM on July 19, 2004

Which part of the Hitchens article isn't true?
posted by ParisParamus at 8:44 AM on July 19, 2004

Hey, I've got an idea - why don't we have a whole thread or two about the Hitchens article to discuss that question? Paris, would you mind setting up the FPP?
posted by soyjoy at 9:13 AM on July 19, 2004

And then, add in the fact that Michael Moore is a certified asshole.

Clever that, subtilely promoting your alma matter. How did you fare during the certification exam(s)? I'm guessing your score was significantly higher than Moore's. Perhaps a link to a list of graduates from this program might be helpful as well as pointers on how to get access to the training materials. Elite company I imagine.
posted by juiceCake at 9:41 AM on July 19, 2004

soy vey.
posted by ParisParamus at 9:47 AM on July 19, 2004

Sorry, but I think Rush Limbaugh's IQ is significantly higher than either Al Franken's or Michael Moore's.
posted by ParisParamus at 9:49 AM on July 19, 2004

Lies, like Iraq didn't try to buy yellowcake from a country in Africa? You know, you leftist, pacifist cowards: please, go protest in the street, in New York and Boston--please I beg you! Show America the face of who thinks George W. Bush is so horrible, just to firm our resolve to keep you and your surrogates out of office.
posted by ParisParamus at 2:04 PM on July 19, 2004

Lies, like Iraq didn't try to buy yellowcake from a country in Africa?

I don't recall that charge being made in Moore's film, much less in any works of Aristophanes. I'm pretty sure that Joe Wilson wasn't in the movie (and he definitely wasn't in any of Aristophanes' plays). Do you recall seeing him somewhere in the movie, Paris?
posted by soyjoy at 2:49 PM on July 19, 2004

It's astonishing that my comment yields serious, or even semi-serious responses.

Any of them.
posted by inpHilltr8r at 3:13 PM on July 20, 2004

Maybe Moore's head will explode when we bomb Iran next near?
posted by ParisParamus at 4:10 PM on July 20, 2004