If he's the sixth, doesn't that make him 006?
October 14, 2005 8:07 AM Subscribe
Daniel Craig = Bond, James Bond
Daniel Craig has been announced as the sixth James Bond in the remake of Casino Royale, the next movie in the long running series of over-the-top spy movies.
We'll see how he performs but he's got some mighty big shoes to fill and fill (with a big Happy Birthday to you!) and fill and fill and fill.
Daniel Craig has been announced as the sixth James Bond in the remake of Casino Royale, the next movie in the long running series of over-the-top spy movies.
We'll see how he performs but he's got some mighty big shoes to fill and fill (with a big Happy Birthday to you!) and fill and fill and fill.
Will the James Bond series ever be "done" or is this next one gonna be called "007: Blood From A Stone"?
posted by wakko at 8:12 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by wakko at 8:12 AM on October 14, 2005
Bond needs to be either Hugh Jackman or Julian whatsisname - Dr. Christian from nip/tuck. MmmmHmmm.
posted by iconomy at 8:13 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by iconomy at 8:13 AM on October 14, 2005
wakko, I believe the next Bond movie will be Casino Royale.
posted by apple scruff at 8:16 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by apple scruff at 8:16 AM on October 14, 2005
the cuban, I was just being polite and including them really though I did quite like Lazenby's performance in On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
posted by fenriq at 8:16 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by fenriq at 8:16 AM on October 14, 2005
I'm tired of these sexy, seductive British men. They should have it played by an overweight, crass Cockney man, who saves Her Majesty's Empire at night and works down at the docks during the day.
posted by geoff. at 8:18 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by geoff. at 8:18 AM on October 14, 2005
I'm surprised Connery's younger than Moore.
posted by SteveInMaine at 8:20 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by SteveInMaine at 8:20 AM on October 14, 2005
Will the James Bond series ever be "done" or is this next one gonna be called "007: Blood From A Stone"?
Considering that each of the last four have mode more than $100M apiece, I'd say it's not quite "Blood from a Stone". And with 21 movies out of 35 books, there's a lot more original source material ripe for the plucking. I barely consider all of the Bonds the same character. The continuity obviously doesn't work. They just took a whole bunch of (some great, some mediocre, some crappy) action movies and gave them all core characters with the same names.
Would you cry if I asked if the Dr. Who series will ever be "done" or is this next one gonna be called "Dr. Who: Blood From a Scarf"?
posted by Plutor at 8:20 AM on October 14, 2005
Considering that each of the last four have mode more than $100M apiece, I'd say it's not quite "Blood from a Stone". And with 21 movies out of 35 books, there's a lot more original source material ripe for the plucking. I barely consider all of the Bonds the same character. The continuity obviously doesn't work. They just took a whole bunch of (some great, some mediocre, some crappy) action movies and gave them all core characters with the same names.
Would you cry if I asked if the Dr. Who series will ever be "done" or is this next one gonna be called "Dr. Who: Blood From a Scarf"?
posted by Plutor at 8:20 AM on October 14, 2005
James Bond, the last remaining hetero male of popular culture. Doomed to failure of course unless he either comes out, transgenders, or is replaced by his daughter (of which he must have hundreds by now).
posted by scheptech at 8:22 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by scheptech at 8:22 AM on October 14, 2005
If he's the sixth doesn't that make him 006?
No, 006 was Alec Trevelyan, the turncoat in Goldeneye. God, get your licensees-to-kill straight.
posted by Plutor at 8:24 AM on October 14, 2005
No, 006 was Alec Trevelyan, the turncoat in Goldeneye. God, get your licensees-to-kill straight.
posted by Plutor at 8:24 AM on October 14, 2005
Clive Owen would have have made a fantastic Bond. Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait and see what this guy's like.
posted by TheDonF at 8:24 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by TheDonF at 8:24 AM on October 14, 2005
Its an interesting question, who would you select for the next Bond?
I'd like to see Ewan MacGregor get a shot at it.
posted by fenriq at 8:27 AM on October 14, 2005
I'd like to see Ewan MacGregor get a shot at it.
posted by fenriq at 8:27 AM on October 14, 2005
Plutor, it was a joke, maybe not a good one but God, re-fucking-lax.
posted by fenriq at 8:29 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by fenriq at 8:29 AM on October 14, 2005
I'm so not seeing a blonde guy as Bond. At. All. This guy just doesn't have the hot factor. That being said - wasn't Casino Royale a spoof? Odd choice for a remake.
posted by Space Kitty at 8:30 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Space Kitty at 8:30 AM on October 14, 2005
Meh. They should have gone for Johnny Vegas.
Seriously, this is a good choice. Bond isn't the suarve charmer as played by Moore and Brosnan - he's got to have a element of thuggish street-brawler about him. Craig will be able to 'humanise' Bond making him less of a gadget-wielding superhero.
posted by salmacis at 8:30 AM on October 14, 2005
Seriously, this is a good choice. Bond isn't the suarve charmer as played by Moore and Brosnan - he's got to have a element of thuggish street-brawler about him. Craig will be able to 'humanise' Bond making him less of a gadget-wielding superhero.
posted by salmacis at 8:30 AM on October 14, 2005
Personally, I prefer Lazenby with a dubbed accent in On Her Majesty's Secret Service over any of the Roger Moore films. Moore was a twit and his movies are now almost unwatchable. Dalton wasn't bad in his first film but the second, Licence to Kill, was terrible. He walked through that film like he was in need of a good bowel movement.
I'm sure Craig will do fine. The real problem with the Bond films as of late has been studio involvement. I understand the producers, the kids of Cubby Broccoli, wanted to sign a late-twentysomthing actor and take the series back to the 1960's which would have been awesome.
Also, Pierce Brosnan recently said that he was let go because he wanted Tarrintino to direct a Bond film.
posted by DragonBoy at 8:33 AM on October 14, 2005
I'm sure Craig will do fine. The real problem with the Bond films as of late has been studio involvement. I understand the producers, the kids of Cubby Broccoli, wanted to sign a late-twentysomthing actor and take the series back to the 1960's which would have been awesome.
Also, Pierce Brosnan recently said that he was let go because he wanted Tarrintino to direct a Bond film.
posted by DragonBoy at 8:33 AM on October 14, 2005
Space Kitty: That being said - wasn't Casino Royale a spoof? Odd choice for a remake.
Well, the film with Peter Sellers and Woody Allen is a spoof, but there actually was a real Bond novel named Casino Royale that hasn't been adapted to the screen so much as roundly made fun of.
posted by graymouser at 8:35 AM on October 14, 2005
Well, the film with Peter Sellers and Woody Allen is a spoof, but there actually was a real Bond novel named Casino Royale that hasn't been adapted to the screen so much as roundly made fun of.
posted by graymouser at 8:35 AM on October 14, 2005
Would you cry if I asked if the Dr. Who series will ever be "done" or is this next one gonna be called "Dr. Who: Blood From a Scarf"?
No, because they've made enough of that too.
posted by wakko at 8:35 AM on October 14, 2005
No, because they've made enough of that too.
posted by wakko at 8:35 AM on October 14, 2005
Yesh Laddie, them some big shexy shoesh to fill!
posted by Mr Bluesky at 8:36 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Mr Bluesky at 8:36 AM on October 14, 2005
As good a place as any to ask, how do I get hold of Our Friends in the North in the US?
posted by Gyan at 8:36 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Gyan at 8:36 AM on October 14, 2005
And fill, and fill, and fill, and fill, of course.
And fill, and fill too, I guess.
Maybe a few others...
But that movie doesn't count anymore.
posted by Chuckles at 8:37 AM on October 14, 2005
And fill, and fill too, I guess.
Maybe a few others...
But that movie doesn't count anymore.
posted by Chuckles at 8:37 AM on October 14, 2005
Bond isn't the suarve charmer as played by Moore and Brosnan - he's got to have a element of thuggish street-brawler about him.
Exactly salmacis. Ian Fleming described Bond as having a cruel smile. The character should be far more the cold blooded killer than the lady killing wanker that Roger Moore made him into.
posted by three blind mice at 8:40 AM on October 14, 2005
Exactly salmacis. Ian Fleming described Bond as having a cruel smile. The character should be far more the cold blooded killer than the lady killing wanker that Roger Moore made him into.
posted by three blind mice at 8:40 AM on October 14, 2005
Dobbsh you utter bashtard!!
posted by Mr Bluesky at 8:45 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Mr Bluesky at 8:45 AM on October 14, 2005
Not really a bond fan, but I was pretty amazed last week. I was watching Chitty Chitty Bang Bang with my 2 year old niece and noticed the intro credits: Ian Fleming's Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, produced by Albert R. Broccoli.
posted by substrate at 8:53 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by substrate at 8:53 AM on October 14, 2005
They should have it played by an overweight, crass Cockney man, who saves Her Majesty's Empire at night and works down at the docks during the day
Step forward Bond Hoskins, I think...
posted by Decani at 8:59 AM on October 14, 2005
Step forward Bond Hoskins, I think...
posted by Decani at 8:59 AM on October 14, 2005
They should have it played by an overweight, crass Cockney man, who saves Her Majesty's Empire at night and works down at the docks during the day
Step forward Bond Hoskins, I think...
posted by Decani at 8:59 AM on October 14, 2005
Step forward Bond Hoskins, I think...
posted by Decani at 8:59 AM on October 14, 2005
Plutor, it was a joke, maybe not a good one but God, re-fucking-lax.
Ahem. It was faux disgust. You relax!
posted by Plutor at 8:59 AM on October 14, 2005
Ahem. It was faux disgust. You relax!
posted by Plutor at 8:59 AM on October 14, 2005
I would have preferred either Clive Owen, Sean Bean (yeah, I know he played 006 but dammit when did continuity matter in these movies), or Ioan Gruffudd. Especially Bean, he could bring some reckless malice to the role, which we have not really seen since Connery.
posted by Ber at 9:00 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Ber at 9:00 AM on October 14, 2005
Yes: Ber, I remember our discussions last month. I still think Clive Owen would have nailed it but old Dan's not a bad choice. Cheersh.
posted by blag at 9:06 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by blag at 9:06 AM on October 14, 2005
I really wish they'd gone with Jonny Lee Miller.
posted by Captaintripps at 9:08 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Captaintripps at 9:08 AM on October 14, 2005
(angrily throwing 50-Cent-as-James-Bond script draft across room and into fireplace)
posted by bhance at 9:10 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by bhance at 9:10 AM on October 14, 2005
When he turns thirty-eight next March, Daniel Craig will be the youngest James Bond since George Lazenby played Bond at age thirty.
Before Lazenby, Sean Connery was thirty-six when he made You Only Live Twice.
Roger Moore was 46-58(!!) years old when he played Bond.
Connery came back to play Bond in Never Say Never Again at age 53.
Timothy Dalton was in his early forties for his two appearances as 007.
Pierce Brosnan was 42 to 49 when he played Bond.
posted by Lord Kinbote at 9:15 AM on October 14, 2005
Before Lazenby, Sean Connery was thirty-six when he made You Only Live Twice.
Roger Moore was 46-58(!!) years old when he played Bond.
Connery came back to play Bond in Never Say Never Again at age 53.
Timothy Dalton was in his early forties for his two appearances as 007.
Pierce Brosnan was 42 to 49 when he played Bond.
posted by Lord Kinbote at 9:15 AM on October 14, 2005
This is a good choice. I wanted it to be Daniel Craig or Dougray Scott.
posted by fire&wings at 9:15 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by fire&wings at 9:15 AM on October 14, 2005
I was really pulling hoping for maybe a woman of color to fill the bench this time.
posted by Peter H at 9:19 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Peter H at 9:19 AM on October 14, 2005
Dalton was actually an excellent Bond, and could possibly have been the best of the lot, if they hadn't put him in such godawful shitty scripts. Granted, once the gadget craze kicked in full force the quality of all the scripts has suffered, and Bond went from a dangerous brawler/spy to effete clown/spy. But really, Goldeneye (for example) was high drama compared to that atrocity with Wayne f'ing Newton.
I know it won't happen, but if the movie has ANY of the feel of the book (Casino Royale being the first published Bond book), I might actually line up again for a Bond film. Gritty, with Bond being beaten up on occasion, realistic gadgets, and a plot that isn't immediately laughable when you describe it out loud to your mother.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 9:24 AM on October 14, 2005
I know it won't happen, but if the movie has ANY of the feel of the book (Casino Royale being the first published Bond book), I might actually line up again for a Bond film. Gritty, with Bond being beaten up on occasion, realistic gadgets, and a plot that isn't immediately laughable when you describe it out loud to your mother.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 9:24 AM on October 14, 2005
Substrate,
Yes, Fleming's authorship of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" is a rather adorable lesser milestone in his career.
Then there's the related trivia - the completely thrilling 1936 classic travel adventure book "News From Tartary" written by the "great explorer" Peter Fleming - none other than Ian's brother.
posted by Jody Tresidder at 9:26 AM on October 14, 2005
Yes, Fleming's authorship of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" is a rather adorable lesser milestone in his career.
Then there's the related trivia - the completely thrilling 1936 classic travel adventure book "News From Tartary" written by the "great explorer" Peter Fleming - none other than Ian's brother.
posted by Jody Tresidder at 9:26 AM on October 14, 2005
Captaintripps, Jonny Lee Miller was a favorite of mine too. He's certainly got the eyebrows for it.
posted by DragonBoy at 9:31 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by DragonBoy at 9:31 AM on October 14, 2005
Clive Owen as Bond? Definitively. He's got all that it takes, including being physically imposing, which Connery was in spades.
Ewen Macgregor? Handsome chap, but way too skinny to be James Bond.
posted by illiad at 9:32 AM on October 14, 2005
Ewen Macgregor? Handsome chap, but way too skinny to be James Bond.
posted by illiad at 9:32 AM on October 14, 2005
I think Daniel Craig will be great. He's probably a posh luvvy type but seems to me to be much more of a bad boy and a bit darker and less polished than Dalton or Brosnan. Although that's probably from having seen Our Friends In The North.
I adore Ewan McGregor, but I think he'd be a terrible James Bond.
posted by jamesonandwater at 9:34 AM on October 14, 2005
I adore Ewan McGregor, but I think he'd be a terrible James Bond.
posted by jamesonandwater at 9:34 AM on October 14, 2005
Agreed, I thought GoldenEye even with is trailer was a resurrection of the Bond franchise. Even the music was cool again. Here's to Bond #28.. #29.. what is it now? Ohhh IMDB...
posted by cavalier at 9:38 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by cavalier at 9:38 AM on October 14, 2005
This film will make the third time that Casino Royale has made it to the screen. Nearly fifty years ago on Octover 21st, 1954 CBS did a TV version of the book for their 'Climax Mystery Theater'. In that version Bond was an American known as Jimmy Bond and played by Barry Nelson with none other than Peter Lorre as the villian.
I have it somewhere on VHS, but not a VCR to play it.
posted by DragonBoy at 9:38 AM on October 14, 2005
I have it somewhere on VHS, but not a VCR to play it.
posted by DragonBoy at 9:38 AM on October 14, 2005
I would've liked to see Clive Owen, but I liked Daniel Craig in Layer Cake and I think he'll do fine as James Bond. He's got a menacing presence that's closer to the book's character than some of the movie portrayals have been. Bond is described as a cold and ruthless Hoagy Carmichael.
Ian Fleming only wrote twelve James Bond novels and two short story collections, which is all that I'd consider original source material, and they were reduced to movies based on short story titles long ago.
posted by kirkaracha at 9:45 AM on October 14, 2005
And with 21 movies out of 35 books, there's a lot more original source material ripe for the plucking.
Ian Fleming only wrote twelve James Bond novels and two short story collections, which is all that I'd consider original source material, and they were reduced to movies based on short story titles long ago.
posted by kirkaracha at 9:45 AM on October 14, 2005
Has anyone considered the possibilities of claymation?
posted by horsewithnoname at 9:47 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by horsewithnoname at 9:47 AM on October 14, 2005
Gritty, with Bond being beaten up on occasion,
Oh yes. I seem to remember a bottomless chair, a bottomless Bond and a carpet beater. The books could get quite a bit nastier than the movies.
posted by Decani at 10:01 AM on October 14, 2005
Oh yes. I seem to remember a bottomless chair, a bottomless Bond and a carpet beater. The books could get quite a bit nastier than the movies.
posted by Decani at 10:01 AM on October 14, 2005
Well, it looks like I'm the sole mourner of Brosnan being booted. I personally very much enjoyed his Bond, possibly (SACRILEGE, I KNOW) more than that Connery fella :)
Would have been interesting to see him use his character in The Fifth Protocol in a Bond flick. Granted, the movie would bomb, but perhaps film buffs would like it.
posted by eurasian at 10:14 AM on October 14, 2005
Would have been interesting to see him use his character in The Fifth Protocol in a Bond flick. Granted, the movie would bomb, but perhaps film buffs would like it.
posted by eurasian at 10:14 AM on October 14, 2005
I think he'll be at least a decent Bond, but I've always thought Alexander Siddig (Siddig El Fadil) would make a stylish bond.
IMDB linkage.
posted by secret about box at 10:21 AM on October 14, 2005
IMDB linkage.
posted by secret about box at 10:21 AM on October 14, 2005
I'd also like to second/third/whatever the Clive Owen answer to the Bond question. Much awesomeness there.
posted by secret about box at 10:24 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by secret about box at 10:24 AM on October 14, 2005
Mikey-San - you have a point. Showed some ok Bond-ish chops with his DS9 character's holodeck fantasies...
posted by PurplePorpoise at 10:29 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by PurplePorpoise at 10:29 AM on October 14, 2005
If by "gritty" they mean more like the Bourne films than the recent Bond films, I'm interested.
posted by schoolgirl report at 10:50 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by schoolgirl report at 10:50 AM on October 14, 2005
Alexander Siddig will, however, be in Syriana. That might be an interesting movie.
posted by blacklite at 10:50 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by blacklite at 10:50 AM on October 14, 2005
I want to see Christopher Walken or Steve Buscemi as the next Bond, fake accent and all.
posted by Mach3avelli at 11:16 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by Mach3avelli at 11:16 AM on October 14, 2005
He looks like a younger taller blonder Sid James.
"The Bond Gang is back in Carry on Being Licensed to Kill!"
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 11:25 AM on October 14, 2005
"The Bond Gang is back in Carry on Being Licensed to Kill!"
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 11:25 AM on October 14, 2005
eurasian, you're not alone. I was a big fan of Brosnan's portrayal, so I was sad to see him treated shabbily at the end of his contract -- especially after all that they went through to get him in the first place (Remington Steele cancelled, hired as Bond, surprise! RS not cancelled, Dalton brought in, Dalton movies do OK, litigation with MGM delays series, Goldeneye -- the man waited years for the role). But they've obviously wanted to go in a younger direction for a long time (they considered Dalton in 1971, and Brosnan was in his early 30s when first named).
And with 21 movies out of 35 books, there's a lot more original source material
The rights to the novels by Gardner, Benson, and others are not included in the EON license, and there are no plans to seek them.
I barely consider all of the Bonds the same character. The continuity obviously doesn't work.
Continuity has never been one of their goals. The SPECTRE/Blofeld story arc was an exception. Certainly each Bond movie is set in "the present day" regardless of what has gone before. I don't see why this is such a problem -- I know there are a few fans who have concocted elaborate explanations for why e.g. it's a series of MI-6 spies with the common code name "James Bond", but that's way too otaku for me.
They've obviously wanted to move the character younger for some time -- as noted Moore is actually older than Connery; he still had his boyish Saint looks when he was brought in, but then continued in the role at least two movies too many. The producers considered Dalton when he was still a kid, actually, but then Moore stayed and stayed. Anyway, Dalton's grimmer, more no-nonsense portrayal, even in the scripted-for-Moore The Living Daylights, is the favorite of most of the hardcore 007 fans I know.
So I think that Craig will be good in that respect. A true adaptation of CR has been a fan wish for ages, so it's exciting that they're doing it, although the novel was so brief, the movie will naturally have to expand on it (giving them room to bring in all the big action set pieces the Bond series is known for). As a novel goes it's a nasty little bit of controlled violence and quite apposite to the debonair image of the films, even though it also establishes 007 as a high-stakes gambler with good taste in food, wine, and women. All in all a good match and I can't wait.
posted by dhartung at 11:39 AM on October 14, 2005
And with 21 movies out of 35 books, there's a lot more original source material
The rights to the novels by Gardner, Benson, and others are not included in the EON license, and there are no plans to seek them.
I barely consider all of the Bonds the same character. The continuity obviously doesn't work.
Continuity has never been one of their goals. The SPECTRE/Blofeld story arc was an exception. Certainly each Bond movie is set in "the present day" regardless of what has gone before. I don't see why this is such a problem -- I know there are a few fans who have concocted elaborate explanations for why e.g. it's a series of MI-6 spies with the common code name "James Bond", but that's way too otaku for me.
They've obviously wanted to move the character younger for some time -- as noted Moore is actually older than Connery; he still had his boyish Saint looks when he was brought in, but then continued in the role at least two movies too many. The producers considered Dalton when he was still a kid, actually, but then Moore stayed and stayed. Anyway, Dalton's grimmer, more no-nonsense portrayal, even in the scripted-for-Moore The Living Daylights, is the favorite of most of the hardcore 007 fans I know.
So I think that Craig will be good in that respect. A true adaptation of CR has been a fan wish for ages, so it's exciting that they're doing it, although the novel was so brief, the movie will naturally have to expand on it (giving them room to bring in all the big action set pieces the Bond series is known for). As a novel goes it's a nasty little bit of controlled violence and quite apposite to the debonair image of the films, even though it also establishes 007 as a high-stakes gambler with good taste in food, wine, and women. All in all a good match and I can't wait.
posted by dhartung at 11:39 AM on October 14, 2005
I think anyone that has seen Craig in Layercake knows that he'll do a good job as Bond.
posted by zeoslap at 11:52 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by zeoslap at 11:52 AM on October 14, 2005
eurasian, wasn't Brosnan in The Fourth Protocol? The movie based on the Fred Forsyth book, with Michael Caine as the MI5 guy and the scrumptious Joanna Cassidy as the Russian artillery major.
posted by illiad at 11:53 AM on October 14, 2005
posted by illiad at 11:53 AM on October 14, 2005
I hope they never stop making Bond films.
Seriously, I love the damned things, though they could do with less gadgetry at times.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:09 PM on October 14, 2005
Seriously, I love the damned things, though they could do with less gadgetry at times.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:09 PM on October 14, 2005
and I concur with the popular opinion that Craig will make a fantastic Bond.
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:09 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by I Love Tacos at 12:09 PM on October 14, 2005
I'm with GitM; Dalton was an excellent Bond. Lazenby was quite good, as well, but he had the misfortune to star in the Bond movie where he settled down and got married. This made him a much softer character (that Lazenby played excellently), which was not what audiences wanted. (D, L, C, N, B, M).
I wondered who the next Bond would be. Connery was Scottish, Lazenby Australian, Moore English, Dalton Welsh, and Brosnan Irish. I thought maybe the next Bond would be South African. Or possibly Canadian. The decision to go with another Englishman is, I hope, not as bad an idea as it was the last time (and yes, I'm aware that Fleming had Moore in mind when creating the character; he was still foppish and awful at it). I've never seen Craig act. Here's hoping.
posted by Eideteker at 12:22 PM on October 14, 2005
I wondered who the next Bond would be. Connery was Scottish, Lazenby Australian, Moore English, Dalton Welsh, and Brosnan Irish. I thought maybe the next Bond would be South African. Or possibly Canadian. The decision to go with another Englishman is, I hope, not as bad an idea as it was the last time (and yes, I'm aware that Fleming had Moore in mind when creating the character; he was still foppish and awful at it). I've never seen Craig act. Here's hoping.
posted by Eideteker at 12:22 PM on October 14, 2005
Another shout-out for Timothy Dalton : the only Bond yet who really had that mean thing down. Too bad he only got a couple of movies...
posted by stinkycheese at 12:25 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by stinkycheese at 12:25 PM on October 14, 2005
I wondered who the next Bond would be. Connery was Scottish, Lazenby Australian, Moore English, Dalton Welsh, and Brosnan Irish. I thought maybe the next Bond would be South African. Or possibly Canadian.
Heh, good observation . . . and suggestion. Of course I can't name a single South African actor of the top of my head. . . .
posted by jamesonandwater at 12:45 PM on October 14, 2005
Heh, good observation . . . and suggestion. Of course I can't name a single South African actor of the top of my head. . . .
posted by jamesonandwater at 12:45 PM on October 14, 2005
jamesonandwater, Charlize Theron is South African but I think she'd be a way better Bond girl than a Bond. And he's not an actor but Dave Matthews is also South African.
The list of South African actors known internationally is, well, a wee bit small. And I have only heard of Theron from that list.
posted by fenriq at 1:10 PM on October 14, 2005
The list of South African actors known internationally is, well, a wee bit small. And I have only heard of Theron from that list.
posted by fenriq at 1:10 PM on October 14, 2005
I too was rooting for Clive Owen, but oh well. This guy looks like he could be good, though. I like my Bonds a bit rough and not too pretty.
I don't know why everyone beats up on Dalton. He was too good of an actor, that's why nobody liked him as Bond - who has become nothing more than a two-dimensional caricature. When Dalton was with a woman, for example, you believed he was falling in love. When he was angry, you believed that he was angry and out for revenge. IMO, he brought a lot of humanity to the role and I liked it. Too bad the scripts were so damn crappy.
As for Lazenby - I didn't like him much as Bond, but I really enjoyed the movie - one of the best plotlines and a great ending.
Moore - he was just too flippant and too old. It was just painful to watch him getting it on with all the pretty young things. At least in Octopussy he was well matched with a mature, gorgeous Maud Adams.
Brosnan - he did a good job. The movies became too special effects-laden for me (come on, cgi-Bond windsurfing across a tsunami?), but I thought he was fine.
Connery - the quintessential Bond. I know many thought he wasn't refined enough, but I thought he was a great blend of beefcake, wit and action. A bit misogynist, maybe, but I guess those were the times.
posted by widdershins at 1:31 PM on October 14, 2005
I don't know why everyone beats up on Dalton. He was too good of an actor, that's why nobody liked him as Bond - who has become nothing more than a two-dimensional caricature. When Dalton was with a woman, for example, you believed he was falling in love. When he was angry, you believed that he was angry and out for revenge. IMO, he brought a lot of humanity to the role and I liked it. Too bad the scripts were so damn crappy.
As for Lazenby - I didn't like him much as Bond, but I really enjoyed the movie - one of the best plotlines and a great ending.
Moore - he was just too flippant and too old. It was just painful to watch him getting it on with all the pretty young things. At least in Octopussy he was well matched with a mature, gorgeous Maud Adams.
Brosnan - he did a good job. The movies became too special effects-laden for me (come on, cgi-Bond windsurfing across a tsunami?), but I thought he was fine.
Connery - the quintessential Bond. I know many thought he wasn't refined enough, but I thought he was a great blend of beefcake, wit and action. A bit misogynist, maybe, but I guess those were the times.
posted by widdershins at 1:31 PM on October 14, 2005
fenriq - Richard E. Grant was born in Swaziland. And no, I don't think he'd be a good choice for Bond.
posted by stinkycheese at 1:36 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by stinkycheese at 1:36 PM on October 14, 2005
fenriq - well, of your list of the 14 S.African actors 4 appear to be dead and at least 6 are women so we may need to rethink that idea.
posted by jamesonandwater at 2:05 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by jamesonandwater at 2:05 PM on October 14, 2005
I think Chiwetel Ejiofor would make a kick-ass Bond.
posted by palinode at 2:09 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by palinode at 2:09 PM on October 14, 2005
Mmmmm....Hoagy Carmichael.
Lazenby is still my favorite. Although I like that Craig isn't too pretty.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:22 PM on October 14, 2005
Lazenby is still my favorite. Although I like that Craig isn't too pretty.
posted by Smedleyman at 2:22 PM on October 14, 2005
June 2005 interview with George Lazenby, in "Swindon's biggest shopping guide."
posted by kirkaracha at 2:41 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by kirkaracha at 2:41 PM on October 14, 2005
PurplePorpoise:
Siddig was also in a positively excellent as a double-agent in an episode of Spooks (or MI-5, as it's known here in the States).
posted by secret about box at 3:04 PM on October 14, 2005
Siddig was also in a positively excellent as a double-agent in an episode of Spooks (or MI-5, as it's known here in the States).
posted by secret about box at 3:04 PM on October 14, 2005
Craig was miscast as Ted Hughes and I don't think he has the urbane chops, either
posted by brujita at 4:17 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by brujita at 4:17 PM on October 14, 2005
I had heard Daniel Craig's name bounced around for Bond and I thought to myself, "Who the hell is Daniel Craig?"
Then I saw Layer Cake. Bad title, very cool movie. He was great in it, definitely leading man material. It'll be interesting to see him do some more comedic things, flirting with Moneypenny, for example (btw, Bond producers, I know you're reading this, enough with the blonde bombshell Moneypenny that was in the last couple of movies. Bring back the middle-aged lady with a flair for sexual innuedno....you've lost the plot on that. And enough with hacks like Martin Campbell...can't you find some fresh talent to direct these things?).
He's handsome, but a bit goofy looking at the same time. If he weren't cast as Bond he might've been cast as an evil Russian henchman.
posted by zardoz at 4:20 PM on October 14, 2005
Then I saw Layer Cake. Bad title, very cool movie. He was great in it, definitely leading man material. It'll be interesting to see him do some more comedic things, flirting with Moneypenny, for example (btw, Bond producers, I know you're reading this, enough with the blonde bombshell Moneypenny that was in the last couple of movies. Bring back the middle-aged lady with a flair for sexual innuedno....you've lost the plot on that. And enough with hacks like Martin Campbell...can't you find some fresh talent to direct these things?).
He's handsome, but a bit goofy looking at the same time. If he weren't cast as Bond he might've been cast as an evil Russian henchman.
posted by zardoz at 4:20 PM on October 14, 2005
I read that Ian Fleming had Noel Coward in mind to play Bond. Seriously. And Cary Grant. Cary Grant would have been cool. Think of him in Notorious, a role with some Bondian overtones. Too bad Hitchcock cut the 30-minute car-chase sequence from that film. (I kid.)
It will be nice to see them go back to the basics with this next Bond film. For Your Eyes Only did that to an extent and it's pretty good, except for the horrible Bill Conti score and the irritating-beyond-words Ice Castles skating chick. It's probably the best Moore Bond; that and The Man With the Golden Gun, which was the first Bond I saw in a theater and thus holds a special place in my heart.
Brosnan was very good, and I really enjoyed Goldeneye. Die Another Die was too much; I echo Widdershins' reaction to the wind-surfing sequence. Bad, and badly done. Maybe they really will jettison such over-the-top stuff with Casino Royale, but I rather doubt it. The formula brings in too much money.
posted by Man-Thing at 4:55 PM on October 14, 2005
It will be nice to see them go back to the basics with this next Bond film. For Your Eyes Only did that to an extent and it's pretty good, except for the horrible Bill Conti score and the irritating-beyond-words Ice Castles skating chick. It's probably the best Moore Bond; that and The Man With the Golden Gun, which was the first Bond I saw in a theater and thus holds a special place in my heart.
Brosnan was very good, and I really enjoyed Goldeneye. Die Another Die was too much; I echo Widdershins' reaction to the wind-surfing sequence. Bad, and badly done. Maybe they really will jettison such over-the-top stuff with Casino Royale, but I rather doubt it. The formula brings in too much money.
posted by Man-Thing at 4:55 PM on October 14, 2005
Well, it looks like I'm the sole mourner of Brosnan being booted.
Count me in as a Brosnan fan as well. By far my fav Bond. I was too young to ever get Connery and, having seen him in Darby O'Gill, I just can't quite shake a slight sensation of nausea.
posted by meehawl at 5:38 PM on October 14, 2005
Count me in as a Brosnan fan as well. By far my fav Bond. I was too young to ever get Connery and, having seen him in Darby O'Gill, I just can't quite shake a slight sensation of nausea.
posted by meehawl at 5:38 PM on October 14, 2005
I was rooting for Colin Salmon (and on googling discovered that Pierce Brosnan was too).
posted by ceri richard at 6:07 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by ceri richard at 6:07 PM on October 14, 2005
You know that when the technology becomes available, they'll just CG up a Bond from scratch and make movies without a real actor to pay. If it costs $20 million to build that indistinguishable-from-a-real-person Bond, and you only have to do it once, it's cost-effective. Real actors want that much to be in one film... and CG critters don't get back end.
Of course, I'd probably dig it if they CGed up the young Sean Connery for it... heh.
I liked Brosnan, too. As soon as I saw Remington Steele, I said to myself, "that dude's SO gonna be James Bond."
posted by zoogleplex at 6:10 PM on October 14, 2005
Of course, I'd probably dig it if they CGed up the young Sean Connery for it... heh.
I liked Brosnan, too. As soon as I saw Remington Steele, I said to myself, "that dude's SO gonna be James Bond."
posted by zoogleplex at 6:10 PM on October 14, 2005
I was a little disappointed Julian whatshisface from Nip/Tuck didn't get the part, but he probably would have to start using Connery's wigs by the time he made his third Bond movie. A third or fourth that Craig was very cool in Layer Cake, especially in the build-up-to-sex scene between him and Sienna Miller with Gimme Shelter playing on the soundtrack. He's getting ready in the bathroom and instead of answering the door to let the babe in, he pauses for a moment and takes a second drink from his glass just for the hell of it. Good stuff.
It sure would be nice if the Bond movies would stop using hack directors though, I'd love to see a Danny Boyle-directed Bond movie.
posted by my sock puppet account at 7:28 PM on October 14, 2005
It sure would be nice if the Bond movies would stop using hack directors though, I'd love to see a Danny Boyle-directed Bond movie.
posted by my sock puppet account at 7:28 PM on October 14, 2005
I'll say this: Craig can act. Take a look at "Enduring Love". Although the book's much better.
posted by Decani at 8:30 PM on October 14, 2005
posted by Decani at 8:30 PM on October 14, 2005
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