Fatuous hookups for vapid people
January 28, 2007 8:59 AM Subscribe
We live in an ugly world. War, disease, famine and ugly people seem to rule our daily lives. Darwin Dating is a dating site that cuts through this ugliness and has been created for attractive people only. Darwin Dating has been designed by hot people for hot people. You won't be able to join unless you are objectively beautiful. Our strict rules and natural selection process is the perfect way for attractive people to hook up.
On the 'Please don't apply if...' list:
Bent essential anatomy (men)
Oversized essential anatomy (women)
I wonder what the image gallery looks like to prove these points.
posted by slimepuppy at 9:04 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
Bent essential anatomy (men)
Oversized essential anatomy (women)
I wonder what the image gallery looks like to prove these points.
posted by slimepuppy at 9:04 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
Fantastic website. All the most nightmarishly shallow, ignorant, irrelevant people you truly need to avoid, in one convenient location...with pictures, so that you know who they are without a doubt.
Handy!
posted by perilous at 9:06 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
Handy!
posted by perilous at 9:06 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
I love it, if you are so attractive why would you need a dating site?
posted by andryeevna at 9:07 AM on January 28, 2007 [5 favorites]
posted by andryeevna at 9:07 AM on January 28, 2007 [5 favorites]
Remember that episode of Freakazoid! where the villain caused chaos by kidnapping all the nerds? Then at the end he kidnapped all the vapid, beautiful people instead, and no one noticed?
Yeah.
posted by Space Coyote at 9:11 AM on January 28, 2007 [4 favorites]
Yeah.
posted by Space Coyote at 9:11 AM on January 28, 2007 [4 favorites]
War, disease, famine and ugly people
Holy cats! You mean the secret to world peace, perfect health and starvation is to get rid of ugly people? If only we'd known this centuries ago...
"Oversized essential anatomy"
So this means I can't have a big brain? Or big eyes? Because you know, those other two bits out front aren't really essential unless I'm having kids.
posted by Zinger at 9:13 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
Holy cats! You mean the secret to world peace, perfect health and starvation is to get rid of ugly people? If only we'd known this centuries ago...
"Oversized essential anatomy"
So this means I can't have a big brain? Or big eyes? Because you know, those other two bits out front aren't really essential unless I'm having kids.
posted by Zinger at 9:13 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
andryeevna writes "I love it, if you are so attractive why would you need a dating site?"
You're forgetting about the "batshitinsane" factor.
posted by clevershark at 9:13 AM on January 28, 2007 [3 favorites]
You're forgetting about the "batshitinsane" factor.
posted by clevershark at 9:13 AM on January 28, 2007 [3 favorites]
It's a spoof apparently, according to the linked page (scroll down...)
posted by motty at 9:14 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by motty at 9:14 AM on January 28, 2007
i've been a member since 1974, and it's true. no more fatties, uglies, or furries for me.
dating is awesome now!
posted by jcterminal at 9:17 AM on January 28, 2007
dating is awesome now!
posted by jcterminal at 9:17 AM on January 28, 2007
This post is under-tagged.
posted by jimmythefish at 9:19 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by jimmythefish at 9:19 AM on January 28, 2007
These are the same shit-cocks that spam Google Maps flyovers. Fuck them and their perky corporate lawyer. No digg.
posted by BeerFilter at 9:33 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by BeerFilter at 9:33 AM on January 28, 2007
Mmmmm.. I'm feelin kinda Ayn Randy I am.
posted by srboisvert at 9:36 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by srboisvert at 9:36 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
motty - that fascist blue/pink lego graphic is worth the visit - we will go live in your country! help us set standards!
posted by scheptech at 9:45 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by scheptech at 9:45 AM on January 28, 2007
Darwin Dating has been designed by hot people for hot people.
Hot is 99% mental. If you convince yourself you're hot, you will be. The other 1% is remembering to bathe.
posted by jonmc at 9:48 AM on January 28, 2007
Hot is 99% mental. If you convince yourself you're hot, you will be. The other 1% is remembering to bathe.
posted by jonmc at 9:48 AM on January 28, 2007
it's survival of the fittest ... if it was survival of the cutest, kittens would have ruled the earth long ago
posted by pyramid termite at 9:56 AM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by pyramid termite at 9:56 AM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
I always wondered...
In countries where makeup and cosmetic surgery is widespread, the naturally ugly are able to breed.
In other countries, where makeup and cosmetic surgery are scarce to non-existent, natural selection favors the beautiful, leaving the ugly genes to die out.
I'm not sure how this would explain the continued existence of ugly people after a hundred thousand years of evolution without cosmetics... Actually, I can think of a few reasons, but I'm done being an asshole for today.
posted by hoverboards don't work on water at 10:04 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
In countries where makeup and cosmetic surgery is widespread, the naturally ugly are able to breed.
In other countries, where makeup and cosmetic surgery are scarce to non-existent, natural selection favors the beautiful, leaving the ugly genes to die out.
I'm not sure how this would explain the continued existence of ugly people after a hundred thousand years of evolution without cosmetics... Actually, I can think of a few reasons, but I'm done being an asshole for today.
posted by hoverboards don't work on water at 10:04 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
well, they may have the looks, but we've got the numbers.
posted by micayetoca at 10:09 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by micayetoca at 10:09 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
Weird, I just saw this on gothamist. I also find it amusing that the beautifulpeople.net site that motty linked only allows IE 5.5. Are they saying that only ugly people use firefox/notIE?
posted by Mach5 at 10:11 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by Mach5 at 10:11 AM on January 28, 2007
Oddly enough, cosmetic surgery is cheap in the Philippines and Brazil. I have met folks that fly down there from the US to get the fat sucked out of his/her sides and eyes pinned back to his/her ears.
posted by YoBananaBoy at 10:12 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by YoBananaBoy at 10:12 AM on January 28, 2007
I love it, if you are so attractive why would you need a dating site?
Umm, perhaps because beauty is only skin deep? The majority of the most thoroughly screwed-up, personally repugnant (aka batshitinsane) people I've ever met have been very visually attractive.
posted by kcds at 10:15 AM on January 28, 2007
Umm, perhaps because beauty is only skin deep? The majority of the most thoroughly screwed-up, personally repugnant (aka batshitinsane) people I've ever met have been very visually attractive.
posted by kcds at 10:15 AM on January 28, 2007
hoverboards don't work on water: For ugly people to die off, we'd have to ban other beautifiers as well. Alcohol, money, power, etc etc.
posted by tylermoody at 10:29 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by tylermoody at 10:29 AM on January 28, 2007
Hot is 99% mental. If you convince yourself you're hot, you will be.
Sadly, this variety of hotness wears off with the alcohol in the cold light of morning.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 10:33 AM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
Sadly, this variety of hotness wears off with the alcohol in the cold light of morning.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 10:33 AM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
In other countries, where makeup and cosmetic surgery are scarce to non-existent
beer and grocery bags help the ugly reproduce
posted by pyramid termite at 10:35 AM on January 28, 2007
beer and grocery bags help the ugly reproduce
posted by pyramid termite at 10:35 AM on January 28, 2007
beerfilter: why the hate? pissed you didn't think of it first?
posted by jcterminal at 10:36 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by jcterminal at 10:36 AM on January 28, 2007
Reminds me of this (previously), but focusing on the male lizard brain rather than the female. Excellent.
posted by LordSludge at 10:48 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by LordSludge at 10:48 AM on January 28, 2007
Yes, that's what I think when I see extremely silly and stupid commercials. "Why didn't I think of making a fool of myself first?"
posted by koeselitz at 10:50 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by koeselitz at 10:50 AM on January 28, 2007
Sadly, this variety of hotness wears off with the alcohol in the cold light of morning.
Heh. Not neccessarily. On people who are secure in themselves, physical 'imperfections' seem more like 'quirks' and 'character' rather than blemishes and make the conventionall pretty look rather...bland after awhile. At least in my experience.
posted by jonmc at 10:54 AM on January 28, 2007
Heh. Not neccessarily. On people who are secure in themselves, physical 'imperfections' seem more like 'quirks' and 'character' rather than blemishes and make the conventionall pretty look rather...bland after awhile. At least in my experience.
posted by jonmc at 10:54 AM on January 28, 2007
I'm afraid I can't accurately judge the beauty of any the people on that site without seeing the naked. Preferably in a porn vid.
posted by Astro Zombie at 10:54 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by Astro Zombie at 10:54 AM on January 28, 2007
God, I hate point-and-laugh-filter. This was not worth posting. Sorry.
posted by koeselitz at 10:58 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by koeselitz at 10:58 AM on January 28, 2007
Deep thought... In ancient western civilization, there were women that were famed for their beauty, like Helen of Troy and Cleopatra. But with only around 150 million people on the planet, compared to 6+ billion today, surely there must be alot more beautiful people today. By today's standards, Cleopatra doesn't seem that hot... but then again, I still can't wrap my head around why some people think Paris Hilton is hot.
posted by Nquire at 11:08 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by Nquire at 11:08 AM on January 28, 2007
Mach5 writes "I also find it amusing that the beautifulpeople.net site that motty linked only allows IE 5.5."
5.5?.. they may be pretty, but it sure doesn't make 'em smart!
posted by clevershark at 11:09 AM on January 28, 2007
5.5?.. they may be pretty, but it sure doesn't make 'em smart!
posted by clevershark at 11:09 AM on January 28, 2007
You know what makes me laugh? When two really pretty and vain people get together and create really goofy looking kids. That makes me laugh. And only a little bit because I have beautiful kids. Mostly because I like it when vain people get a little reality smackdown.
posted by fenriq at 11:32 AM on January 28, 2007
posted by fenriq at 11:32 AM on January 28, 2007
This is the bottomless resource to be mined for the 21st Century: Insecurity.
You know what I never heard before 1990. A man under 30 worrying about if his abs were sculpted enough. The Fashion Insecurity Industrial Complex has now taken hold across gender lines.
One would think that all these "Pretty People" are supremely confident. But not true. This site is for people who want to be thought of as Pretty People. They want to be judged as pretty. The are merely candidates for pretty. And people who worry about that all the time - it doesn't matter how attractive they truly are. They will never believe it.
We project a kind of smugness on them. We want to hate them more for being cocky fuckers. But they are more pathetic.
I dated a couple of gals who were starting their model careers. The amount of reinforcement they required daily was astounding. Eventually you got more out of them by pointing out their flaws. And that is what these people want. They are crying out "Treat me like shit."
I still can't wrap my head around why some people think Paris Hilton is hot
Hmmm. She's worth over 50 million dollars. She's a slut. She's stupid. And any dude with a dick and a bottle of Jack Daniels has a shot at her. In that context I see the attraction if you want an easy lay and a free weekend in the south of France.
posted by tkchrist at 11:37 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
You know what I never heard before 1990. A man under 30 worrying about if his abs were sculpted enough. The Fashion Insecurity Industrial Complex has now taken hold across gender lines.
One would think that all these "Pretty People" are supremely confident. But not true. This site is for people who want to be thought of as Pretty People. They want to be judged as pretty. The are merely candidates for pretty. And people who worry about that all the time - it doesn't matter how attractive they truly are. They will never believe it.
We project a kind of smugness on them. We want to hate them more for being cocky fuckers. But they are more pathetic.
I dated a couple of gals who were starting their model careers. The amount of reinforcement they required daily was astounding. Eventually you got more out of them by pointing out their flaws. And that is what these people want. They are crying out "Treat me like shit."
I still can't wrap my head around why some people think Paris Hilton is hot
Hmmm. She's worth over 50 million dollars. She's a slut. She's stupid. And any dude with a dick and a bottle of Jack Daniels has a shot at her. In that context I see the attraction if you want an easy lay and a free weekend in the south of France.
posted by tkchrist at 11:37 AM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
And any dude with a dick and a bottle of Jack Daniels has a shot at her.
How about Dick Daniels with a jack? Does he have a chance?
(I personally find Paris Hilton about as sexy as a bag of bricks)
posted by jonmc at 11:56 AM on January 28, 2007
How about Dick Daniels with a jack? Does he have a chance?
(I personally find Paris Hilton about as sexy as a bag of bricks)
posted by jonmc at 11:56 AM on January 28, 2007
jcterminal, count me in with the Bill Hicks crowd. I just hate ads. It irritates me that some fake site is considered to be worthy of an FPP. It irritates me that these people think they're being clever putting an ad on the surface of the planet. It irritates me that they're most certainly high-fiving each other over all the traffic they've driven to their sites this weekend. This crap's been all over the metasites now. All this does is encourage them. I guess I'm old-fashioned, or stupid or something, but putting ads everywhere just pisses me off. That's why I hate.
posted by BeerFilter at 11:59 AM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by BeerFilter at 11:59 AM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
Sure, it's a spoof, but did they really have to drag poor old Darwin's name through the mud for such a cheep laff? Countdown to some ignorant winger/fundie demagogue using the name of the site to drive the anti-evolution wedge deeper into the minds of unthinking mouth-breathers everywhere: 5, 4, 3 ...
posted by oncogenesis at 12:07 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by oncogenesis at 12:07 PM on January 28, 2007
You nerds are all just jealous. The Master Race of genetically superior beings will prevail, because tight bods, brutally handsome and/or irresistably babalicious faces, and impressive genitalia are obviously signs of Mother Nature saying: "Yes, yes, more of this!" And y'all sit around wondering why you don't get laid. I'll tell you, the people on this site are having mad sex -- on the floor, on expensive furniture, and even on the ceilings of certain chic four-star hotels in Paris -- between phone calls to their shockingly successful stockbrokers. Resistance is futile.
posted by digaman at 12:12 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by digaman at 12:12 PM on January 28, 2007
I personally find Paris Hilton about as sexy as a bag of bricks
Sexy doesn't enter into it. I'd fuck a bag of bricks if it bought me a Bombardier Learjet 60 XR.
posted by tkchrist at 12:16 PM on January 28, 2007
Sexy doesn't enter into it. I'd fuck a bag of bricks if it bought me a Bombardier Learjet 60 XR.
posted by tkchrist at 12:16 PM on January 28, 2007
I am very old. I am also ugly. I won't post a picture because I, well, am ashamed of my baldness, large nose, scars from acne.
But I am very vbery wealthy and very generous...will I do for some hot babe?
posted by Postroad at 12:27 PM on January 28, 2007
But I am very vbery wealthy and very generous...will I do for some hot babe?
posted by Postroad at 12:27 PM on January 28, 2007
My parents are both more beautiful than me. Can I sue Darwin?
posted by carmen at 12:31 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by carmen at 12:31 PM on January 28, 2007
But I am very vbery wealthy and very generous...will I do for some hot babe?
You Honor, may I present the court with exhibit A: Jack Nicholson.
posted by tkchrist at 12:32 PM on January 28, 2007
You Honor, may I present the court with exhibit A: Jack Nicholson.
posted by tkchrist at 12:32 PM on January 28, 2007
n countries where makeup and cosmetic surgery is widespread, the naturally ugly are able to breed.
Cosmetic surgery is a monkey wrench in natural selection.
I wonder if ugly children are reasons for divorce.
Like you marry a girl, and then you find out she has $300,000 in law school debt. Only, you marry a girl, and only later to you find out she was born an ostrich.
posted by four panels at 12:54 PM on January 28, 2007
Cosmetic surgery is a monkey wrench in natural selection.
I wonder if ugly children are reasons for divorce.
Like you marry a girl, and then you find out she has $300,000 in law school debt. Only, you marry a girl, and only later to you find out she was born an ostrich.
posted by four panels at 12:54 PM on January 28, 2007
Funny also that the people who created the spoof aren't particularly good looking. A little sour grapes if you know what I mean.
posted by four panels at 12:55 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by four panels at 12:55 PM on January 28, 2007
Only, you marry a girl, and only later to you find out she was born an ostrich.
Well, at least you'll always have eggs.
But I am very vbery wealthy and very generous...will I do for some hot babe?
You Honor, may I present the court with exhibit A: Jack Nicholson.
Jack is effortlessly cool, which women find eminently sexy, wealth or no wealth.
posted by jonmc at 12:57 PM on January 28, 2007
Well, at least you'll always have eggs.
But I am very vbery wealthy and very generous...will I do for some hot babe?
You Honor, may I present the court with exhibit A: Jack Nicholson.
Jack is effortlessly cool, which women find eminently sexy, wealth or no wealth.
posted by jonmc at 12:57 PM on January 28, 2007
And what is with ugly people driving expensive sports cars? Get out the Maserati, fatty.
posted by four panels at 1:01 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by four panels at 1:01 PM on January 28, 2007
Yeah, you'd really have to wonder about hot people who need a dating site. Seems like they'd either be poor, stupid or psychologically dysfunctional. Not exactly grade A mating material either way.
posted by nixerman at 1:08 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by nixerman at 1:08 PM on January 28, 2007
Jack is effortlessly cool
May I resent the Court with a counter to this falicious thesis.
In Mr Nicholson's case cool comes from? His brief PAST connections to rebel film-making. And. Continual media whoring.
Effortless? Hardly. He has an entire entourage and mechanism who are hired 24/7 to keep him "cool." Who, BTW, have failed. Because he is now official old and irrelevant to the dominant movie going demographic of 15-24 year olds. His continuing tenuous hold on cool comes from the fact he is now Old Hollywood Establishment. How can that be cool?
Jack is a narcissistic asshole gilding his career on the fame he earned in roles he did 20 years ago. He trolls parties for wanna-be's 35 years his junior takes them home and does unspeakable things. And they play along because he is rich and is a good step ladder. Er. Was a good step ladder.
But if you don't except Jack Nicholson as Exhibit A.
Then howz about Exhibit B: Donald Trump.
The Prosecution rest.
posted by tkchrist at 1:09 PM on January 28, 2007
May I resent the Court with a counter to this falicious thesis.
In Mr Nicholson's case cool comes from? His brief PAST connections to rebel film-making. And. Continual media whoring.
Effortless? Hardly. He has an entire entourage and mechanism who are hired 24/7 to keep him "cool." Who, BTW, have failed. Because he is now official old and irrelevant to the dominant movie going demographic of 15-24 year olds. His continuing tenuous hold on cool comes from the fact he is now Old Hollywood Establishment. How can that be cool?
Jack is a narcissistic asshole gilding his career on the fame he earned in roles he did 20 years ago. He trolls parties for wanna-be's 35 years his junior takes them home and does unspeakable things. And they play along because he is rich and is a good step ladder. Er. Was a good step ladder.
But if you don't except Jack Nicholson as Exhibit A.
Then howz about Exhibit B: Donald Trump.
The Prosecution rest.
posted by tkchrist at 1:09 PM on January 28, 2007
Oh. I get it. There's a voting process. That's hilarious. But these people are teenagers or the mental equivalent.
posted by nixerman at 1:11 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by nixerman at 1:11 PM on January 28, 2007
Prettiness doesn't amount to shit in terms of evolutionary fitness.
Saber-toothed tigers weren't too impressed by our babealicious ancestors.
The woolly mammoth didn't give up its meat to the ones with nice smiles.
Back in the day, aggression was what mattered. Aggression allowed you to pass on your genes.
posted by jason's_planet at 1:16 PM on January 28, 2007
Saber-toothed tigers weren't too impressed by our babealicious ancestors.
The woolly mammoth didn't give up its meat to the ones with nice smiles.
Back in the day, aggression was what mattered. Aggression allowed you to pass on your genes.
posted by jason's_planet at 1:16 PM on January 28, 2007
It's a spoof apparently
The entire Internet is a spoof. I'm surprised no one's noticed yet.
posted by chairface at 1:22 PM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
The entire Internet is a spoof. I'm surprised no one's noticed yet.
posted by chairface at 1:22 PM on January 28, 2007 [1 favorite]
The entire Internet is a spoof.
Really? What are we a spoof of? Meet the Press? The Muppet Show? I bet it's the Muppet Show. I get to be Gonzo.
posted by jonmc at 1:25 PM on January 28, 2007
Really? What are we a spoof of? Meet the Press? The Muppet Show? I bet it's the Muppet Show. I get to be Gonzo.
posted by jonmc at 1:25 PM on January 28, 2007
Back in the day, aggression was what mattered. Aggression allowed you to pass on your genes.
without anyone of us being there, that is pure conjecture.
Primate studies on macaques and baboons illustrate behavior of smaller males causing just enough trouble in community to cause the alpha male to get involved, leaving the company of his female(s). This creates opportunity for smaller males to copulate and attempt at reproducing.
It ain't all that simple, my friend.
posted by YoBananaBoy at 1:27 PM on January 28, 2007
without anyone of us being there, that is pure conjecture.
Primate studies on macaques and baboons illustrate behavior of smaller males causing just enough trouble in community to cause the alpha male to get involved, leaving the company of his female(s). This creates opportunity for smaller males to copulate and attempt at reproducing.
It ain't all that simple, my friend.
posted by YoBananaBoy at 1:27 PM on January 28, 2007
Muppet the Press!
posted by YoBananaBoy at 1:28 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by YoBananaBoy at 1:28 PM on January 28, 2007
Right now the headline on FOX is "Large Scale Confrontation" with a picture of Prince Charles shaking hands with Rod Stewart in a fake Nepoleonic general's jacket.
Apt.
posted by Balisong at 1:31 PM on January 28, 2007
Apt.
posted by Balisong at 1:31 PM on January 28, 2007
Muppet the Press!
OK, now I'm picturing a foam Tom Brokaw with somebody's arm up him. Thanks a lot.
posted by jonmc at 1:33 PM on January 28, 2007
OK, now I'm picturing a foam Tom Brokaw with somebody's arm up him. Thanks a lot.
posted by jonmc at 1:33 PM on January 28, 2007
"Really? What are we a spoof of? Meet the Press? The Muppet Show? I bet it's the Muppet Show. I get to be Gonzo."
Only if I get to be Dr. Teeth!
posted by stenseng at 1:45 PM on January 28, 2007
Only if I get to be Dr. Teeth!
posted by stenseng at 1:45 PM on January 28, 2007
...smaller males causing just enough trouble in community to cause the alpha male to get involved, leaving the company of his female(s). This creates opportunity for smaller males to copulate and attempt at reproducing.
Finally! A coherent explanation for the bulk of Metatalk.
posted by Abiezer at 1:57 PM on January 28, 2007 [3 favorites]
Finally! A coherent explanation for the bulk of Metatalk.
posted by Abiezer at 1:57 PM on January 28, 2007 [3 favorites]
OK, now I'm picturing a foam Tom Brokaw with somebody's arm up him. Thanks a lot.
As if reality is so far removed from that description?
posted by YoBananaBoy at 2:03 PM on January 28, 2007
As if reality is so far removed from that description?
posted by YoBananaBoy at 2:03 PM on January 28, 2007
So can I create a profile on there? It's a spoof, you say? Even better.
posted by LordSludge at 2:04 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by LordSludge at 2:04 PM on January 28, 2007
without anyone of us being there, that is pure conjecture.
Three weeks ago, someone on the subway was giving me a sustained dirty look. I can't really explain why he was giving me a dirty look but I will speculate. He was of a race/class background lower than mine and seemed to be trying to win points at my expense with a nasty glare. He thought that the white boy with glasses would just put up with it and feel guilty.
I called him out on his rudeness and said "Hey, is there something wrong, guy? You keep giving me a dirty look. Wassup with that?"
He stood up and made as if he were about to hit me.
I said "All right. Go ahead. If you have a dick between your legs, I'm sure you'll throw a punch."
He backed down and sat down. He never looked at me again.
But what struck me the most about this encounter was a young woman sitting directly across from me. She was enchanted. She looked turned on. I was a little taken aback, actually. But then I realized what this was all about.
Don't try to tell me this is just conjecture or speculation. If you drop the politically correct perspective and start looking at how men and women really interact, paying close interaction to the non-verbal component that liberal intellectuals typically ignore, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
posted by jason's_planet at 2:27 PM on January 28, 2007 [3 favorites]
Three weeks ago, someone on the subway was giving me a sustained dirty look. I can't really explain why he was giving me a dirty look but I will speculate. He was of a race/class background lower than mine and seemed to be trying to win points at my expense with a nasty glare. He thought that the white boy with glasses would just put up with it and feel guilty.
I called him out on his rudeness and said "Hey, is there something wrong, guy? You keep giving me a dirty look. Wassup with that?"
He stood up and made as if he were about to hit me.
I said "All right. Go ahead. If you have a dick between your legs, I'm sure you'll throw a punch."
He backed down and sat down. He never looked at me again.
But what struck me the most about this encounter was a young woman sitting directly across from me. She was enchanted. She looked turned on. I was a little taken aback, actually. But then I realized what this was all about.
Don't try to tell me this is just conjecture or speculation. If you drop the politically correct perspective and start looking at how men and women really interact, paying close interaction to the non-verbal component that liberal intellectuals typically ignore, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
posted by jason's_planet at 2:27 PM on January 28, 2007 [3 favorites]
Yep. Just as Lizard Boy Brain wants hawt girl, Lizard Girl Brain wants alpha male, which is more about behavior than anything.
Not saying it's good or healthy or can't be overcome, but there it is.
posted by LordSludge at 2:34 PM on January 28, 2007
Not saying it's good or healthy or can't be overcome, but there it is.
posted by LordSludge at 2:34 PM on January 28, 2007
Heh, nice one, j_p. I told a guy in a similar situation who kept elbowing me that I'd break his nose with the spine of my book if he didn't cut it out. He said, "What?" and I brought my book up real fast, right up to his face, and he flinched.
I turned the book around and read the title out loud. "The Essential Gandhi? You're afraid Gandhi's gonna break your nose? Pssssht."
His friends all laughed so much that he had to laugh, too, and I tagged him on the arm and said, "You're alright, man."
Of course, I kinda look like a cop, and I totally had the drop on him, so I guess this isn't particularly germane here.
posted by breezeway at 2:47 PM on January 28, 2007
I turned the book around and read the title out loud. "The Essential Gandhi? You're afraid Gandhi's gonna break your nose? Pssssht."
His friends all laughed so much that he had to laugh, too, and I tagged him on the arm and said, "You're alright, man."
Of course, I kinda look like a cop, and I totally had the drop on him, so I guess this isn't particularly germane here.
posted by breezeway at 2:47 PM on January 28, 2007
I love it, if you are so attractive why would you need a dating site?
Yeah, you'd really have to wonder about hot people who need a dating site. Seems like they'd either be poor, stupid or psychologically dysfunctional. Not exactly grade A mating material either way.
Yes, people who use dating sites are "forced into" it because they are ugly and/or psychologically dysfunctional and can't attract "normal" people. Since the linked site is a parody, I suppose we have to look to this thread for fustian bigotry to gawk at.
posted by dgaicun at 2:50 PM on January 28, 2007
Yeah, you'd really have to wonder about hot people who need a dating site. Seems like they'd either be poor, stupid or psychologically dysfunctional. Not exactly grade A mating material either way.
Yes, people who use dating sites are "forced into" it because they are ugly and/or psychologically dysfunctional and can't attract "normal" people. Since the linked site is a parody, I suppose we have to look to this thread for fustian bigotry to gawk at.
posted by dgaicun at 2:50 PM on January 28, 2007
i would never join a club that would be willing to admit me as a member.
posted by bruce at 3:05 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by bruce at 3:05 PM on January 28, 2007
Don't try to tell me this is just conjecture or speculation. If you drop the politically correct perspective and start looking at how men and women really interact. . . you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
Actually genuine evolutionary-informed research (Chapter 6) show both men and women are attracted to the personality dimension agreeableness - the ability to get along harmoniously and interact constructively with others. Women are also attracted to dominance (or leadership) which is not in any way opposed to agreeableness. But they are much more attracted to agreeableness.
Picking fights with minorities on the subway? Typically? Not so much.
posted by dgaicun at 3:15 PM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
Actually genuine evolutionary-informed research (Chapter 6) show both men and women are attracted to the personality dimension agreeableness - the ability to get along harmoniously and interact constructively with others. Women are also attracted to dominance (or leadership) which is not in any way opposed to agreeableness. But they are much more attracted to agreeableness.
Picking fights with minorities on the subway? Typically? Not so much.
posted by dgaicun at 3:15 PM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
Scientifical research (see Chapter 8) shows that picking fights with strangers on the internet, regardless of race, is a big turn-on for wankers.
posted by breezeway at 3:33 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by breezeway at 3:33 PM on January 28, 2007
I wasn't going to join, I am waaay too sexy.
posted by elpapacito at 3:35 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by elpapacito at 3:35 PM on January 28, 2007
both men and women are attracted to the personality dimension agreeableness - the ability to get along harmoniously and interact constructively with others. Women are also attracted to dominance (or leadership) which is not in any way opposed to agreeableness. But they are much more attracted to agreeableness.
Picking fights with minorities on the subway? Typically? Not so much.
The agreeableness category fits me about 85% of the time. I really am a good-natured, pleasant guy, as any MeFite who has met me in person can confirm. I don't like to make trouble. I'd rather dispel tension by channeling it into humor.
But if someone behaves aggressively towards me by glaring at me or gratuitously violating my space or throwing racial insults at me, I reserve the right to respond to that, especially when that aggression is predicated on the assumption that, as a white male, I'll be so paralyzed with guilt that I'll just submit.
posted by jason's_planet at 3:37 PM on January 28, 2007
Picking fights with minorities on the subway? Typically? Not so much.
The agreeableness category fits me about 85% of the time. I really am a good-natured, pleasant guy, as any MeFite who has met me in person can confirm. I don't like to make trouble. I'd rather dispel tension by channeling it into humor.
But if someone behaves aggressively towards me by glaring at me or gratuitously violating my space or throwing racial insults at me, I reserve the right to respond to that, especially when that aggression is predicated on the assumption that, as a white male, I'll be so paralyzed with guilt that I'll just submit.
posted by jason's_planet at 3:37 PM on January 28, 2007
Hot is 99% mental. If you convince yourself you're hot, you will be.
That's a good one. Is that from some other parody web site?
posted by wfc123 at 3:52 PM on January 28, 2007
That's a good one. Is that from some other parody web site?
posted by wfc123 at 3:52 PM on January 28, 2007
Is that from some other parody web site?
Yeah. www.reality.com.
It's a very rich, multifaceted site.
posted by jason's_planet at 4:03 PM on January 28, 2007
Yeah. www.reality.com.
It's a very rich, multifaceted site.
posted by jason's_planet at 4:03 PM on January 28, 2007
I turned the book around and read the title out loud. "The Essential Gandhi? You're afraid Gandhi's gonna break your nose? Pssssht."
His friends all laughed so much that he had to laugh, too, and I tagged him on the arm and said, "You're alright, man."
Nice way to turn it around, to blend aggression with aggreableness.
Nicely done, hugh!
posted by jason's_planet at 4:05 PM on January 28, 2007
His friends all laughed so much that he had to laugh, too, and I tagged him on the arm and said, "You're alright, man."
Nice way to turn it around, to blend aggression with aggreableness.
Nicely done, hugh!
posted by jason's_planet at 4:05 PM on January 28, 2007
Hot is 99% mental. If you convince yourself you're hot, you will be. That's a good one. Is that from some other parody web site?
Actually, it's likely that you've had too much to drink and/or you've dropped some "x," had a hit a of "g," or one of "tina." One is often hot, hot, hot after any and all!
posted by ericb at 4:11 PM on January 28, 2007
Actually, it's likely that you've had too much to drink and/or you've dropped some "x," had a hit a of "g," or one of "tina." One is often hot, hot, hot after any and all!
posted by ericb at 4:11 PM on January 28, 2007
*dons Atlas Pam schtick* DON'T YOU WISH YOUR BLIND DATE WAS HOT LIKE MEEEEEEE....
posted by localroger at 4:33 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by localroger at 4:33 PM on January 28, 2007
Countdown to some ignorant winger/fundie demagogue using the name of the site to drive the anti-evolution wedge deeper into the minds of unthinking mouth-breathers everywhere: 5, 4, 3 ...
There is nothing wrong with mouth breathing. Athhole.
posted by srboisvert at 4:52 PM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
There is nothing wrong with mouth breathing. Athhole.
posted by srboisvert at 4:52 PM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
The majority of the most thoroughly screwed-up, personally repugnant (aka batshitinsane) people I've ever met have been very visually attractive.
I don't doubt that at all. Being beautiful has got to mess with a girl's head. Just imagine: Every man you meet wants to fuck you, so you get hit on 3, 4, 5... 10 times a DAY by guys that you have zero interest in. (By contrast, how many times do men generally get approached -- like once or twice a YEAR??) After a few years of being kind and receptive to approaching strangers, which only makes them think they have a chance with you (hellooooo, stalker!!), the kindness becomes bitchiness -- just to stem the tide of suitors. Even the guys who say they're your friends want to fuck you; they're just too timid to say so. So you can pretty much fuck anybody you want, which is great, but if you do, you'll be ostricized as a slut. It's gotta make a girl sick on the inside. I honestly feel kinda bad for em.
The rough analog is that if you're a "wealthy man", people will want to be friends to get a piece of your cash.
And, sure, it's easy to be less attractive -- stop shaving your legs, dress frumpy, don't wear makeup, etc. But nobody's gonna do that. It'd be like a guy turning down a $50k raise at work. Not gonna happen.
posted by LordSludge at 4:57 PM on January 28, 2007
I don't doubt that at all. Being beautiful has got to mess with a girl's head. Just imagine: Every man you meet wants to fuck you, so you get hit on 3, 4, 5... 10 times a DAY by guys that you have zero interest in. (By contrast, how many times do men generally get approached -- like once or twice a YEAR??) After a few years of being kind and receptive to approaching strangers, which only makes them think they have a chance with you (hellooooo, stalker!!), the kindness becomes bitchiness -- just to stem the tide of suitors. Even the guys who say they're your friends want to fuck you; they're just too timid to say so. So you can pretty much fuck anybody you want, which is great, but if you do, you'll be ostricized as a slut. It's gotta make a girl sick on the inside. I honestly feel kinda bad for em.
The rough analog is that if you're a "wealthy man", people will want to be friends to get a piece of your cash.
And, sure, it's easy to be less attractive -- stop shaving your legs, dress frumpy, don't wear makeup, etc. But nobody's gonna do that. It'd be like a guy turning down a $50k raise at work. Not gonna happen.
posted by LordSludge at 4:57 PM on January 28, 2007
Draw this face and if you do a great job you might qualify for our mail order art classes! We only accept talented students.
or..
Fred Astaire Studio: "Oh my Ms Johnson, you have real talent at dancing. I am sure that with our comprehensive (and expensive) program you could become a professional" (read: men might stick dollar bills into what is left of your costume).
posted by caddis at 5:30 PM on January 28, 2007
or..
Fred Astaire Studio: "Oh my Ms Johnson, you have real talent at dancing. I am sure that with our comprehensive (and expensive) program you could become a professional" (read: men might stick dollar bills into what is left of your costume).
posted by caddis at 5:30 PM on January 28, 2007
Disclaimer: I've been to Australia, and I liked it a lot. Lots of friendly folks, had a wonderful time. But the minute I saw the top page of this site, I knew it was Australian. After a wee bit of clicking and scrolling around, my suspicions were confirmed. This is so Australian!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:32 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by flapjax at midnite at 5:32 PM on January 28, 2007
Not saying it's good or healthy or can't be overcome, but there it is.
It should be overcome. And I, as the classically bookish nerdy dude who fucking hates hates hates violence, would be most happy if we could achieve this goal.
But in the meantime, as Lordsludge has noted above, we have to recognize the power of the lizard brain and its effects on our everyday interactions. Not glamorize it or enshrine it as somehow more "natural" than civilized behavior. Just recognize it, respect the role that aggression plays in human life and learn to deal with it.
posted by jason's_planet at 5:42 PM on January 28, 2007
It should be overcome. And I, as the classically bookish nerdy dude who fucking hates hates hates violence, would be most happy if we could achieve this goal.
But in the meantime, as Lordsludge has noted above, we have to recognize the power of the lizard brain and its effects on our everyday interactions. Not glamorize it or enshrine it as somehow more "natural" than civilized behavior. Just recognize it, respect the role that aggression plays in human life and learn to deal with it.
posted by jason's_planet at 5:42 PM on January 28, 2007
I think it's a mistake to confuse aggressive behavior with dominant, leadership behavior. I didn't mean to imply that the former was attractive to women, but that the latter is. In fact you can easily punk yourself -- socially prove yourself to be inferior -- by losing your cool under pressure.
As a "bookish nerdy dude", just don't let other people push you around, including hot girls. No need to get in fist fights.
posted by LordSludge at 6:26 PM on January 28, 2007
As a "bookish nerdy dude", just don't let other people push you around, including hot girls. No need to get in fist fights.
posted by LordSludge at 6:26 PM on January 28, 2007
that aggression is predicated on the assumption that, as a white male, I'll be so paralyzed with guilt that I'll just submit.
Duuuuude, you have some issues to work out.
posted by Hildegarde at 7:41 PM on January 28, 2007
Duuuuude, you have some issues to work out.
posted by Hildegarde at 7:41 PM on January 28, 2007
Postroad: "But I am very very wealthy and very generous...will I do for some hot babe?"
tkchrist: "Your Honor, may I present the court with exhibit A: Jack Nicholson."
Ah, but you're missing the key ingredient: Jack Nicholson is very wealthy, largely generous-seeming, and a complete and total asshole. This is what makes him endlessly attractive to women.
tkchrist: "But if you don't accept Jack Nicholson as Exhibit A... Then howz about Exhibit B: Donald Trump."
Well, yeah. Asshole #2. Women love 'em.
jason_planet: "Three weeks ago, someone on the subway was giving me a sustained dirty look. I can't really explain why he was giving me a dirty look but I will speculate. He was of a race/class background lower than mine and seemed to be trying to win points at my expense with a nasty glare. He thought that the white boy with glasses would just put up with it and feel guilty... I called him out on his rudeness and said "Hey, is there something wrong, guy? You keep giving me a dirty look. Wassup with that?" He stood up and made as if he were about to hit me... I said "All right. Go ahead. If you have a dick between your legs, I'm sure you'll throw a punch." He backed down and sat down. He never looked at me again. But what struck me the most about this encounter was a young woman sitting directly across from me. She was enchanted. She looked turned on."
And here's asshole #3. We could probably go on all day, but this last asshole makes things pretty clear.
posted by koeselitz at 7:48 PM on January 28, 2007
tkchrist: "Your Honor, may I present the court with exhibit A: Jack Nicholson."
Ah, but you're missing the key ingredient: Jack Nicholson is very wealthy, largely generous-seeming, and a complete and total asshole. This is what makes him endlessly attractive to women.
tkchrist: "But if you don't accept Jack Nicholson as Exhibit A... Then howz about Exhibit B: Donald Trump."
Well, yeah. Asshole #2. Women love 'em.
jason_planet: "Three weeks ago, someone on the subway was giving me a sustained dirty look. I can't really explain why he was giving me a dirty look but I will speculate. He was of a race/class background lower than mine and seemed to be trying to win points at my expense with a nasty glare. He thought that the white boy with glasses would just put up with it and feel guilty... I called him out on his rudeness and said "Hey, is there something wrong, guy? You keep giving me a dirty look. Wassup with that?" He stood up and made as if he were about to hit me... I said "All right. Go ahead. If you have a dick between your legs, I'm sure you'll throw a punch." He backed down and sat down. He never looked at me again. But what struck me the most about this encounter was a young woman sitting directly across from me. She was enchanted. She looked turned on."
And here's asshole #3. We could probably go on all day, but this last asshole makes things pretty clear.
posted by koeselitz at 7:48 PM on January 28, 2007
And here's asshole #3. We could probably go on all day, but this last asshole makes things pretty clear.
At your service, sir.
posted by jason's_planet at 8:05 PM on January 28, 2007
At your service, sir.
posted by jason's_planet at 8:05 PM on January 28, 2007
SUPERIOR MUTANTS!
Have intercourse with a beautiful live girl, or damn near anything else.
posted by ZachsMind at 8:12 PM on January 28, 2007
Have intercourse with a beautiful live girl, or damn near anything else.
posted by ZachsMind at 8:12 PM on January 28, 2007
Duuuuude, you have some issues to work out.
posted by Hildegarde at 10:41 PM EST on January 28
Yeah. I have some pretty serious issues with people giving me dirty looks, trying to stare me down, doing the sidewalk chicken routine, slamming into me on the street, or -- in one case -- spitting on me he rode his bike behind me for a block.
Those sorts of things do harsh my mellow a bit.
Can I enter a guilty plea to being human?
posted by jason's_planet at 8:17 PM on January 28, 2007
posted by Hildegarde at 10:41 PM EST on January 28
Yeah. I have some pretty serious issues with people giving me dirty looks, trying to stare me down, doing the sidewalk chicken routine, slamming into me on the street, or -- in one case -- spitting on me he rode his bike behind me for a block.
Those sorts of things do harsh my mellow a bit.
Can I enter a guilty plea to being human?
posted by jason's_planet at 8:17 PM on January 28, 2007
jason: I realize I haven't given you the honor of actually talking about your ideas, which are in fact interesting. So here we are:
jason_planet: "... we have to recognize the power of the lizard brain and its effects on our everyday interactions. Not glamorize it or enshrine it as somehow more "natural" than civilized behavior. Just recognize it, respect the role that aggression plays in human life and learn to deal with it."
You speak of something you call "the lizard brain" and contrast it with "civilized behavior." Neither is more "natural" than the other, apparently, but one is less recognized.
My feeling, however, is that identifying "lizard brain nature" and "civilized nature" (if that's what you're doing, I don't know) as two different human impulses and trying to say that the lizard brain has a certain place is assuming that human life is about various impulses being satiated. I, like several other people, feel that the satiation of impulses is not the end of human life; more to the point, I feel that human happiness does not consist in the satiation of said impulses, but in a larger balance and harmony between the impulses and their satiation called 'happiness.'
Justice, the care of every individual soul, is the good of all. Justice is neither recognized by all nor easy to achieve. All are more happy when each strives for justice, and especially so when the strong strive for justice in every way by any means.
In short: you did no good for the other guy when you virtually threatened him, and you did no good for yourself. In fact, you did no good for the woman you 'turned on,' either. This kind of display, while somewhat satisfying in the moment, has very little final purpose.
posted by koeselitz at 8:28 PM on January 28, 2007
jason_planet: "... we have to recognize the power of the lizard brain and its effects on our everyday interactions. Not glamorize it or enshrine it as somehow more "natural" than civilized behavior. Just recognize it, respect the role that aggression plays in human life and learn to deal with it."
You speak of something you call "the lizard brain" and contrast it with "civilized behavior." Neither is more "natural" than the other, apparently, but one is less recognized.
My feeling, however, is that identifying "lizard brain nature" and "civilized nature" (if that's what you're doing, I don't know) as two different human impulses and trying to say that the lizard brain has a certain place is assuming that human life is about various impulses being satiated. I, like several other people, feel that the satiation of impulses is not the end of human life; more to the point, I feel that human happiness does not consist in the satiation of said impulses, but in a larger balance and harmony between the impulses and their satiation called 'happiness.'
Justice, the care of every individual soul, is the good of all. Justice is neither recognized by all nor easy to achieve. All are more happy when each strives for justice, and especially so when the strong strive for justice in every way by any means.
In short: you did no good for the other guy when you virtually threatened him, and you did no good for yourself. In fact, you did no good for the woman you 'turned on,' either. This kind of display, while somewhat satisfying in the moment, has very little final purpose.
posted by koeselitz at 8:28 PM on January 28, 2007
If you drop the politically correct perspective and start looking at how men and women really interact, paying close interaction to the non-verbal component that liberal intellectuals typically ignore, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
I pay plenty close attention to folks. Like you, a self-admitted nerd with hostility issues telling me what to do.
So, taking a note from you ...
*snarling glance and gashing of teeth*
posted by YoBananaBoy at 9:44 PM on January 28, 2007
I pay plenty close attention to folks. Like you, a self-admitted nerd with hostility issues telling me what to do.
So, taking a note from you ...
*snarling glance and gashing of teeth*
posted by YoBananaBoy at 9:44 PM on January 28, 2007
The only reason I mentioned the incident was the expression on her face. I raised my voice. I called a guy out on his rude behavior. And I saw this expression on her face that I'll never forget.
Should she have reacted that way? I don't know. I was a bit dumbfounded myself.
But I immediately thought back to that exchange when I saw this:
without anyone of us being there, that is pure conjecture.
I mean, I certainly hope that we would succeed in taming aggression, in channeling it into civilized pursuits. But aggression is a deeply rooted part of our nature and I get a little impatient with a certain school of thought, one that I associate with contemporary technocratic liberalism, one that tries to deny our nature and minimize the role of the impulses. We didn't leave them behind when we left the caves. They're still with us.
So how 'bout them vapid, shallow people, huh?
posted by jason's_planet at 9:52 PM on January 28, 2007
Should she have reacted that way? I don't know. I was a bit dumbfounded myself.
But I immediately thought back to that exchange when I saw this:
without anyone of us being there, that is pure conjecture.
I mean, I certainly hope that we would succeed in taming aggression, in channeling it into civilized pursuits. But aggression is a deeply rooted part of our nature and I get a little impatient with a certain school of thought, one that I associate with contemporary technocratic liberalism, one that tries to deny our nature and minimize the role of the impulses. We didn't leave them behind when we left the caves. They're still with us.
So how 'bout them vapid, shallow people, huh?
posted by jason's_planet at 9:52 PM on January 28, 2007
You speak of something you call "the lizard brain" and contrast it with "civilized behavior." Neither is more "natural" than the other, apparently, but one is less recognized.
Absolutely. There's a certain school of technocratic liberalism that is extremely uncomfortable with acknowledging the darker aspects of human nature. See: Metafilter.
I, like several other people, feel that the satiation of impulses is not the end of human life; more to the point, I feel that human happiness does not consist in the satiation of said impulses, but in a larger balance and harmony between the impulses and their satiation called 'happiness.'
Yes, that's how things should be. But I wasn't trying to describe how things should be. I was describing how they were. How I saw them, at least. I retired from politics about a decade ago and started letting the shoulds slip out of my vocabulary.
Justice, the care of every individual soul, is the good of all. Justice is neither recognized by all nor easy to achieve. All are more happy when each strives for justice, and especially so when the strong strive for justice in every way by any means.
My goals aren't so lofty. I just want people out of my face, that's all. I don't want them glaring at me. Or slamming into me. Or spitting on me. I guess I'm not very enlightened.
In short: you did no good for the other guy when you virtually threatened him, and you did no good for yourself. In fact, you did no good for the woman you 'turned on,' either. This kind of display, while somewhat satisfying in the moment, has very little final purpose.
I respectfully reject your characterization of the incident. In any event, I don't really care about his good. I don't care about him at all. I wanted him to mind the minimal fucking manners that we agree upon here in this city and not fix a dirty look on me for three or four stops through midtown. I got him to stop.
Mission accomplished. And that was enough of a final purpose for me. I'm sure that Aristotle would not approve of my behavior. But then, I don't think Aristotle ever had to take the subway.
posted by jason's_planet at 10:19 PM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
Absolutely. There's a certain school of technocratic liberalism that is extremely uncomfortable with acknowledging the darker aspects of human nature. See: Metafilter.
I, like several other people, feel that the satiation of impulses is not the end of human life; more to the point, I feel that human happiness does not consist in the satiation of said impulses, but in a larger balance and harmony between the impulses and their satiation called 'happiness.'
Yes, that's how things should be. But I wasn't trying to describe how things should be. I was describing how they were. How I saw them, at least. I retired from politics about a decade ago and started letting the shoulds slip out of my vocabulary.
Justice, the care of every individual soul, is the good of all. Justice is neither recognized by all nor easy to achieve. All are more happy when each strives for justice, and especially so when the strong strive for justice in every way by any means.
My goals aren't so lofty. I just want people out of my face, that's all. I don't want them glaring at me. Or slamming into me. Or spitting on me. I guess I'm not very enlightened.
In short: you did no good for the other guy when you virtually threatened him, and you did no good for yourself. In fact, you did no good for the woman you 'turned on,' either. This kind of display, while somewhat satisfying in the moment, has very little final purpose.
I respectfully reject your characterization of the incident. In any event, I don't really care about his good. I don't care about him at all. I wanted him to mind the minimal fucking manners that we agree upon here in this city and not fix a dirty look on me for three or four stops through midtown. I got him to stop.
Mission accomplished. And that was enough of a final purpose for me. I'm sure that Aristotle would not approve of my behavior. But then, I don't think Aristotle ever had to take the subway.
posted by jason's_planet at 10:19 PM on January 28, 2007 [2 favorites]
I'm sure that Aristotle would not approve of my behavior.
Yes he would. Ancient Greece? Those guys threw down over ANYTHING. The Greek concept of Arete? It was about more than just abstract notions of excellence. It was about comparing your self directly to others. And they fought over it all the time.
Jasons_planet your observations on the subway were only partial. Beating the shit out of someone usually doesn't gain you much in the way of female sympathy. Usually the opposite. Maybe. Depends on social class.
However. Standing up for your self usually does earn you respect and esteem. Naturally.
I am a fairly nerdy un-imposing looking guy in my street clothes. Back in the day I beat up guys who were bigger. Guys who did a great deal more than just look at me mean. And the girls STILL ran to them.
What you felt in the subway was more likely due to the females being made to feel uncomfortable by the same dude you were. And that you stood up put them at ease. Not just because you're now the car bad-ass, but because you're now the car target - not them. It's a natural reaction when people spend life as the prey animal.
And, by the way, I approve. But you better not write checks with your crocodile mouth that your hummingbird ass can't cash. So. Get thee to a fighting gym and get some Skillz before you do any more of that.
And a note to others chastising Jason_Planet: Predators stare. Ok. And you know it when it happens.
When I worked in clubs I preemptively took on guys for that, too. I KNEW something was gonna happen. Being small I sure as shit wasn't gonna wait for them to decide when they were gonna beat me down. Like in the dark parking lot or bathroom with my back turned. Fuck that. (That sounded gay, didn't it?)
The firstest with the mostest usually wins. Remember that.
Though. You may have problems explaining that in court.
Anyway. Sometimes feeling froggy IS because of you - you had a bad day, bad childhood, etc. Other times. It really IS somebody else.
posted by tkchrist at 12:22 AM on January 29, 2007
Yes he would. Ancient Greece? Those guys threw down over ANYTHING. The Greek concept of Arete? It was about more than just abstract notions of excellence. It was about comparing your self directly to others. And they fought over it all the time.
Jasons_planet your observations on the subway were only partial. Beating the shit out of someone usually doesn't gain you much in the way of female sympathy. Usually the opposite. Maybe. Depends on social class.
However. Standing up for your self usually does earn you respect and esteem. Naturally.
I am a fairly nerdy un-imposing looking guy in my street clothes. Back in the day I beat up guys who were bigger. Guys who did a great deal more than just look at me mean. And the girls STILL ran to them.
What you felt in the subway was more likely due to the females being made to feel uncomfortable by the same dude you were. And that you stood up put them at ease. Not just because you're now the car bad-ass, but because you're now the car target - not them. It's a natural reaction when people spend life as the prey animal.
And, by the way, I approve. But you better not write checks with your crocodile mouth that your hummingbird ass can't cash. So. Get thee to a fighting gym and get some Skillz before you do any more of that.
And a note to others chastising Jason_Planet: Predators stare. Ok. And you know it when it happens.
When I worked in clubs I preemptively took on guys for that, too. I KNEW something was gonna happen. Being small I sure as shit wasn't gonna wait for them to decide when they were gonna beat me down. Like in the dark parking lot or bathroom with my back turned. Fuck that. (That sounded gay, didn't it?)
The firstest with the mostest usually wins. Remember that.
Though. You may have problems explaining that in court.
Anyway. Sometimes feeling froggy IS because of you - you had a bad day, bad childhood, etc. Other times. It really IS somebody else.
posted by tkchrist at 12:22 AM on January 29, 2007
Under user name it has "hotbabe81" as the example. To remind you what a user name is.
posted by I Foody at 4:10 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by I Foody at 4:10 AM on January 29, 2007
::signs up as hotbabe82::
posted by LordSludge at 6:01 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by LordSludge at 6:01 AM on January 29, 2007
Prettiness doesn't amount to shit in terms of evolutionary fitness.
Saber-toothed tigers weren't too impressed by our babealicious ancestors.
The woolly mammoth didn't give up its meat to the ones with nice smiles.
Huh? That's the dumbest thing...
You're saying that an extraordinary physical specimen of a tiger doesn't attract other tigers? Ditto woolly mammoths? Physical attractiveness signals good genes like sugar used to signal nutritive value. Tigers don't spare attractive humans? That's not a terribly profound observation.
posted by dreamsign at 9:05 AM on January 29, 2007
Saber-toothed tigers weren't too impressed by our babealicious ancestors.
The woolly mammoth didn't give up its meat to the ones with nice smiles.
Huh? That's the dumbest thing...
You're saying that an extraordinary physical specimen of a tiger doesn't attract other tigers? Ditto woolly mammoths? Physical attractiveness signals good genes like sugar used to signal nutritive value. Tigers don't spare attractive humans? That's not a terribly profound observation.
posted by dreamsign at 9:05 AM on January 29, 2007
"My goals aren't so lofty. I just want people out of my face, that's all. I don't want them glaring at me. Or slamming into me. Or spitting on me. I guess I'm not very enlightened."
What I'm talking about -- personal happiness -- isn't exactly an "enlightened" goal.
posted by koeselitz at 9:20 AM on January 29, 2007 [1 favorite]
What I'm talking about -- personal happiness -- isn't exactly an "enlightened" goal.
posted by koeselitz at 9:20 AM on January 29, 2007 [1 favorite]
Personally, I can't wait for nuclear winter. Survival of the fattest.
posted by tehloki at 10:32 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by tehloki at 10:32 AM on January 29, 2007
I'm holding out for The Perpetual Running of the Bulls. Survival of the footest.
posted by cortex at 10:43 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by cortex at 10:43 AM on January 29, 2007
I'm holding out for the Running Of The Steamrollers. Survival of the Flattest.
posted by jonmc at 10:56 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by jonmc at 10:56 AM on January 29, 2007
To say nothing of the Woodwind Armageddon. Survival of the floutist.
posted by cortex at 10:59 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by cortex at 10:59 AM on January 29, 2007
Personally, I can't wait for nuclear winter. Survival of the fattest.
I thought it was survival of the Blattodeaest?
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 11:02 AM on January 29, 2007
I thought it was survival of the Blattodeaest?
posted by Lentrohamsanin at 11:02 AM on January 29, 2007
For this site (spoof or not) and all others like it - I hope for them exactly what they wish for.
posted by fluffycreature at 11:06 AM on January 29, 2007
Hey look, someone invented "am I hot or not." I bet they make a million dollars.
posted by nanojath at 11:19 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by nanojath at 11:19 AM on January 29, 2007
Evolution does not select for specific persons. Evolution selects for the perpetuation of genes, and species which don't die out due to changing conditions do so by dint of their genetic diversity.
As YoBananaBoy alluded to, agressive behavior has the side effect of spending so much time picking fights with those of one's same sex that there is little time left to pay attention to the members of the opposite sex one should be coupling with in order to perpetuate one's own genes. But the genes of a specific individual isn't as important as pereptuating a diverse selection of advantageous genes of the species in general.
posted by deanc at 11:49 AM on January 29, 2007
As YoBananaBoy alluded to, agressive behavior has the side effect of spending so much time picking fights with those of one's same sex that there is little time left to pay attention to the members of the opposite sex one should be coupling with in order to perpetuate one's own genes. But the genes of a specific individual isn't as important as pereptuating a diverse selection of advantageous genes of the species in general.
posted by deanc at 11:49 AM on January 29, 2007
Lentromansanin: It'd be safer to assume that a small population of humans who can subsist entirely on cockroaches will eventually retake the earth and blow it up again. It'd be just a little bit more depressing than an outright end to humanity, and according to "tehloki's razor", the most depressing outcome is always the most historically likely option.
posted by tehloki at 11:55 AM on January 29, 2007
posted by tehloki at 11:55 AM on January 29, 2007
To say nothing of the Woodwind Armageddon. Survival of the floutist.
and when methane is earth's primary energy source, it'll be all about Survival Of The Flatulent.
posted by jonmc at 1:07 PM on January 29, 2007
and when methane is earth's primary energy source, it'll be all about Survival Of The Flatulent.
posted by jonmc at 1:07 PM on January 29, 2007
20XX AD. All but a lone tailor have perished. Survival of the fitist.
posted by cortex at 1:17 PM on January 29, 2007
posted by cortex at 1:17 PM on January 29, 2007
Take it from an "average" lookin guy. CONFIDENCE goes a LOOOOOOOOONG way. Jussayin.
posted by winks007 at 3:01 PM on January 29, 2007
posted by winks007 at 3:01 PM on January 29, 2007
WTF?!? No "Red hair and too many freckles"? Dear god! I've met many fine fine *Swedish* girls, but the second most beautiful had red hair and was totally covered in freckles! And I'm not even into that sort, I normally go for Italian, Spanish, or French girls. You sad suposidly "perfect" sods can worship at this Swedish girl's knees.
A useful site would be: you rate people so our AI can learn about both them and you, and our AI finds people who both find one another attractive. Oops, sorry, you might need brains to write that site, not just rip off AmIHotOrNot.
posted by jeffburdges at 3:04 PM on January 29, 2007
A useful site would be: you rate people so our AI can learn about both them and you, and our AI finds people who both find one another attractive. Oops, sorry, you might need brains to write that site, not just rip off AmIHotOrNot.
posted by jeffburdges at 3:04 PM on January 29, 2007
And yes women only really care about a man's confidence and money/power (see the ladder theory).
Here is a lovely experement: place two gorgeous stupid surfer dudes and two geeks loudly discussing the similarities between minmaxing their D&D charaters and handling their stock options. Who gets more play?
posted by jeffburdges at 3:16 PM on January 29, 2007
Here is a lovely experement: place two gorgeous stupid surfer dudes and two geeks loudly discussing the similarities between minmaxing their D&D charaters and handling their stock options. Who gets more play?
posted by jeffburdges at 3:16 PM on January 29, 2007
If you drop the politically correct perspective and start looking at how men and women really interact, paying close interaction to the non-verbal component that liberal intellectuals typically ignore, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
This is really fascinating - can you cite the studies about how intellectuals ignore non-verbal communication and how this correlates with their political affiliation? Are there right wing lobby groups consisting of primatologists and semioticians? And would that be John Locke classic liberalism, contemporary American liberalism or Canadian nativist-nationalist Liberals?
Here is a lovely experement: place two gorgeous stupid surfer dudes and two geeks loudly discussing the similarities between minmaxing their D&D charaters and handling their stock options. Who gets more play?
Obviously the surfer dudes - who wants to date a munchkin?
posted by jb at 5:36 PM on January 29, 2007
This is really fascinating - can you cite the studies about how intellectuals ignore non-verbal communication and how this correlates with their political affiliation? Are there right wing lobby groups consisting of primatologists and semioticians? And would that be John Locke classic liberalism, contemporary American liberalism or Canadian nativist-nationalist Liberals?
Here is a lovely experement: place two gorgeous stupid surfer dudes and two geeks loudly discussing the similarities between minmaxing their D&D charaters and handling their stock options. Who gets more play?
Obviously the surfer dudes - who wants to date a munchkin?
posted by jb at 5:36 PM on January 29, 2007
In the surfer dudes vs. geeks thing, what are the surfer dudes doing? Smacking their dicks together? It's a social equivalent of "loudly" talking about DnD.
posted by tehloki at 5:39 PM on January 29, 2007
posted by tehloki at 5:39 PM on January 29, 2007
Which girls are walking by? What's the effective time-frame and working definition of play?
posted by cortex at 5:46 PM on January 29, 2007
posted by cortex at 5:46 PM on January 29, 2007
For real Bush loving, red blooded, American Patriots who know how to vote R: Hannidate!
not responsible for keyboards ruined due to sickness
posted by nofundy at 9:13 AM on January 30, 2007
not responsible for keyboards ruined due to sickness
posted by nofundy at 9:13 AM on January 30, 2007
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