Finally! A drug ad worth watching
June 21, 2007 6:19 PM Subscribe
Very well done, and a great catch, Jedi.
And a pointer to Ain't nobody's business if you do, so I can squeak out of doing a pure 'attaboy' post. :)
posted by Orb2069 at 6:37 PM on June 21, 2007
And a pointer to Ain't nobody's business if you do, so I can squeak out of doing a pure 'attaboy' post. :)
posted by Orb2069 at 6:37 PM on June 21, 2007
brilliant
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 6:41 PM on June 21, 2007
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 6:41 PM on June 21, 2007
Nicely done parody of drug ads.
Actually, I can see some problems with casual drug abuse, but I'd rather see them addressed as behavioral and public-health issues than law-enforcement ones.
posted by pax digita at 6:55 PM on June 21, 2007
Actually, I can see some problems with casual drug abuse, but I'd rather see them addressed as behavioral and public-health issues than law-enforcement ones.
posted by pax digita at 6:55 PM on June 21, 2007
"Brilliant!" - Sting
posted by basicchannel at 6:58 PM on June 21, 2007
posted by basicchannel at 6:58 PM on June 21, 2007
Ha, well done.
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 7:13 PM on June 21, 2007
posted by CitrusFreak12 at 7:13 PM on June 21, 2007
Yeah, a co-worker sent me this earlier today. Finally, a pro-drug message that doesn't look like it was conceived, designed and implemented by a roomfull of stoners.
posted by Skorgu at 7:27 PM on June 21, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by Skorgu at 7:27 PM on June 21, 2007 [1 favorite]
...I'd rather see them addressed as behavioral and public-health issues...
A behavioral issue, maybe, but not a public health issue.
Finally, a pro-drug message...
It's not a pro-drug message, it's an anti-drug-war message.
posted by noahpoah at 7:54 PM on June 21, 2007
A behavioral issue, maybe, but not a public health issue.
Finally, a pro-drug message...
It's not a pro-drug message, it's an anti-drug-war message.
posted by noahpoah at 7:54 PM on June 21, 2007
Just to head off any silly objections to my previous post, I should have written "but, like obesity, not a public health issue" with that there Cato link.
posted by noahpoah at 7:55 PM on June 21, 2007
posted by noahpoah at 7:55 PM on June 21, 2007
Nice, I was thinking of submitting this. A good little video, too bad they can't afford to get it on network tv...
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 9:41 PM on June 21, 2007
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 9:41 PM on June 21, 2007
Funny, excepting the apparently now obligatory penis joke...
posted by Samizdata at 12:58 AM on June 22, 2007
posted by Samizdata at 12:58 AM on June 22, 2007
Very nicely done. But it leaves me asking this: What should we be doing about (as the links calls it) 'the drug problem'?
posted by MarshallPoe at 5:16 AM on June 22, 2007
posted by MarshallPoe at 5:16 AM on June 22, 2007
It's not a pro-drug message, it's an anti-drug-war message.
True. I should have said "Finally an anti-drug-war message that doesn't look like a pro-drug message." Which is what I meant really.
posted by Skorgu at 5:42 AM on June 22, 2007
True. I should have said "Finally an anti-drug-war message that doesn't look like a pro-drug message." Which is what I meant really.
posted by Skorgu at 5:42 AM on June 22, 2007
but not a public health issue
No knock warrants can be extremely unhealthy for the public.
Just ask Kathryn Johnston. Oh, wait...
posted by Enron Hubbard at 6:12 AM on June 22, 2007
No knock warrants can be extremely unhealthy for the public.
Just ask Kathryn Johnston. Oh, wait...
posted by Enron Hubbard at 6:12 AM on June 22, 2007
Yay! CATO! Always thought it would be more honest if they called it the GMFY* institute.
I think that drug problems are more of a public issue than obesity - I mean, I don't think that too many people pound down six cheeseburgers, get behind the wheel of a car and run a bus full of schoolchildren and nuns off the road.
(*'Got Mine, F--- You', of course.)
posted by Orb2069 at 6:40 AM on June 22, 2007
I think that drug problems are more of a public issue than obesity - I mean, I don't think that too many people pound down six cheeseburgers, get behind the wheel of a car and run a bus full of schoolchildren and nuns off the road.
(*'Got Mine, F--- You', of course.)
posted by Orb2069 at 6:40 AM on June 22, 2007
Orb: people with narcolepsy or ischemia might indeed run people down with their car. We should raid their homes and throw them in jail.
posted by chlorus at 6:49 AM on June 22, 2007
posted by chlorus at 6:49 AM on June 22, 2007
That parody had exceptionally high production values. More than the ads I've seen the ODCP produce recently.
BTW, the last time a bus full of schoolchildren got run off the road around here, it was due to a truck with faulty brakes, not some drug-addled moron. ;)
posted by wierdo at 7:08 AM on June 22, 2007
BTW, the last time a bus full of schoolchildren got run off the road around here, it was due to a truck with faulty brakes, not some drug-addled moron. ;)
posted by wierdo at 7:08 AM on June 22, 2007
No knock warrants can be extremely unhealthy for the public.
No knock warrants aren't a drug problem (or a public health problem in the sense of the Cato essay), they're a policy and law enforcement problem.
posted by noahpoah at 7:33 AM on June 22, 2007
No knock warrants aren't a drug problem (or a public health problem in the sense of the Cato essay), they're a policy and law enforcement problem.
posted by noahpoah at 7:33 AM on June 22, 2007
Legalize it!!
Orb - ?? Come to think about it, folks driving while eating cause me all kinds of headaches - they've got but one hand on the wheel, and their bellies slowing its turn speed. Maneuverability and awareness take huge dings when drivers dine on the road.
I've never heard tell of a stoner running a bus off the road. And I've been in a stoner car wreck. At three miles an hour.
posted by EatTheWeek at 8:21 AM on June 22, 2007
Orb - ?? Come to think about it, folks driving while eating cause me all kinds of headaches - they've got but one hand on the wheel, and their bellies slowing its turn speed. Maneuverability and awareness take huge dings when drivers dine on the road.
I've never heard tell of a stoner running a bus off the road. And I've been in a stoner car wreck. At three miles an hour.
posted by EatTheWeek at 8:21 AM on June 22, 2007
Orb - That's a much more accurate acronym for CATO, btw
posted by EatTheWeek at 8:21 AM on June 22, 2007
posted by EatTheWeek at 8:21 AM on June 22, 2007
"I think that drug problems are more of a public issue than obesity - I mean, I don't think that too many people pound down six cheeseburgers, get behind the wheel of a car and run a bus full of schoolchildren and nuns off the road."
A bit early to be hitting the old bong, isn't it?
posted by clevershark at 9:05 AM on June 22, 2007
A bit early to be hitting the old bong, isn't it?
posted by clevershark at 9:05 AM on June 22, 2007
This ad is clever, but isn't it preaching to the choir? Those of us who've experienced a significantly less cartoony version of the state-sponsored home invasion will nod sagely in agreement, and the folks who think that reefer is the work of Satan won't get it.
I kinda like the new anti-pot ads with the alien-love-triangle theme. They make me giggle when I'm baked. Baked on LIFE, that is.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 9:15 AM on June 22, 2007
I kinda like the new anti-pot ads with the alien-love-triangle theme. They make me giggle when I'm baked. Baked on LIFE, that is.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 9:15 AM on June 22, 2007
I think that if we need to box the drug problem into a nice tiny package and give it a name, the best one is a 'public health' issue. It certainly should not be a criminal issue. The simplest argument that I've seen is: answer every pro-prohibition debater's points with the word alcohol.
1. Drugs are dangerous and can lead to serious health problems: alcohol
2. Drugs are addictive and can lead to behavior that destroys families: alcohol
3. What if someone drives under the influence of drugs: alcohol
etc. etc. ad infinitum
I know that this is preaching to the choir. The American citizenry is just waiting for their elected federal and state representatives to catch up to them on drug reform -- the majority agree with the DPA's position, at least on marijuana.
We already have plenty of laws in place regarding driving under the influence of alcohol. The exact same laws and penalities should apply for driving under the influence of drugs. The same is true for any other crime committed under the influence of drugs -- treat the perpetrator exactly the same as you would if they were drunk.
posted by i_am_a_Jedi at 10:14 AM on June 22, 2007
1. Drugs are dangerous and can lead to serious health problems: alcohol
2. Drugs are addictive and can lead to behavior that destroys families: alcohol
3. What if someone drives under the influence of drugs: alcohol
etc. etc. ad infinitum
I know that this is preaching to the choir. The American citizenry is just waiting for their elected federal and state representatives to catch up to them on drug reform -- the majority agree with the DPA's position, at least on marijuana.
We already have plenty of laws in place regarding driving under the influence of alcohol. The exact same laws and penalities should apply for driving under the influence of drugs. The same is true for any other crime committed under the influence of drugs -- treat the perpetrator exactly the same as you would if they were drunk.
posted by i_am_a_Jedi at 10:14 AM on June 22, 2007
MarshallPoe : What should we be doing about (as the links calls it) 'the drug problem'?
This is a very good question. The obvious answer is to start taking certain kinds of drugs, legalizing them, taxing them, and using the resultant cash flow to fund rehab clinics. But this will be met with enormous opposition.
Firstly because we have almost a century of brainwashing telling the public that The Reefer is Evil! Individually they know this is bullshit, but as a group there still seems to be some fear. And this doesn't even speak to harder drugs which can be seriously vilified. Politicians know that it's an easy plank in any platform. They are gonna get 'Tough on crime' and the simplest way to do that is to continue any policy that produces a steady stream of criminals that they can use as metrics.
And there is the more conspiratorial theories that the current drug war is a simple and effective way to keep the poor and the minority communities disenfranchised.
In order to really solve the drug problems in this country, we are going to need to provide the population with a serious education in what is and isn't a dangerous drug, we then need to convince politicians to stop using scare tactics as a campaign platform, and we need to, as a nation, stop blaming the poor and minorities for all of the countries problems.
And since none of that is ever really going to happen, I say we go with my first suggestion which is to just accept that we will always have problems with drugs, so we should legalize the ones that aren't really harmful, clear the prisions of non-violent drug offenders, and start making some money on letting people get high.
It seems a more reasonable solution.
posted by quin at 10:38 AM on June 22, 2007
This is a very good question. The obvious answer is to start taking certain kinds of drugs, legalizing them, taxing them, and using the resultant cash flow to fund rehab clinics. But this will be met with enormous opposition.
Firstly because we have almost a century of brainwashing telling the public that The Reefer is Evil! Individually they know this is bullshit, but as a group there still seems to be some fear. And this doesn't even speak to harder drugs which can be seriously vilified. Politicians know that it's an easy plank in any platform. They are gonna get 'Tough on crime' and the simplest way to do that is to continue any policy that produces a steady stream of criminals that they can use as metrics.
And there is the more conspiratorial theories that the current drug war is a simple and effective way to keep the poor and the minority communities disenfranchised.
In order to really solve the drug problems in this country, we are going to need to provide the population with a serious education in what is and isn't a dangerous drug, we then need to convince politicians to stop using scare tactics as a campaign platform, and we need to, as a nation, stop blaming the poor and minorities for all of the countries problems.
And since none of that is ever really going to happen, I say we go with my first suggestion which is to just accept that we will always have problems with drugs, so we should legalize the ones that aren't really harmful, clear the prisions of non-violent drug offenders, and start making some money on letting people get high.
It seems a more reasonable solution.
posted by quin at 10:38 AM on June 22, 2007
quin's sensible plan will never be implemented: The US is such a religious country, and the people in charge are either also religious or very aware of that fact.
Of course, the Bible doesn't mention drugs... but don't confuse the issue.
posted by chuckdarwin at 11:28 AM on June 22, 2007
Of course, the Bible doesn't mention drugs... but don't confuse the issue.
posted by chuckdarwin at 11:28 AM on June 22, 2007
Chuck, it's not really a "religious thing", so much as it's a puritan thing. (Gods forbid that someone should be having fun. ) I know plenty of religious people who think the war on drugs is the most insane bit of policy the Republicans ever thrust upon the world.
If you think about it, the Puritan ideology and Drug War rhetoric are almost identical. In both cases, things are viewed in the absolutes of black and white, good vs evil. In this mindset; evildoers deserve nothing less than god's wrath, and the "righteous" man will help god fulfill that wrath. It's the logic that allowed for the Witch Trials.
The Drug Warrior's logic is: If drugs are evil, then drug users are evil doers, and therefore, nothing short of draconian punishment is acceptable.
The issue of course is that the argument's logical structure is a deductive argument based on false propositions, and there doesn't seem to be any way to change their minds on the "drugs not produced by the pharmaceutical industry are evil" thing.
Then again, I'm all hopped up on vicoden after breaking my foot in two places, so...I could just be stoned and babbling.
posted by dejah420 at 6:22 PM on June 22, 2007
If you think about it, the Puritan ideology and Drug War rhetoric are almost identical. In both cases, things are viewed in the absolutes of black and white, good vs evil. In this mindset; evildoers deserve nothing less than god's wrath, and the "righteous" man will help god fulfill that wrath. It's the logic that allowed for the Witch Trials.
The Drug Warrior's logic is: If drugs are evil, then drug users are evil doers, and therefore, nothing short of draconian punishment is acceptable.
The issue of course is that the argument's logical structure is a deductive argument based on false propositions, and there doesn't seem to be any way to change their minds on the "drugs not produced by the pharmaceutical industry are evil" thing.
Then again, I'm all hopped up on vicoden after breaking my foot in two places, so...I could just be stoned and babbling.
posted by dejah420 at 6:22 PM on June 22, 2007
I was honestly thinking more in the vein of 'Man on six-day amphetamine bender pulls over busload of nuns and starts shooting whilest raving about pope' sort of thing, but I was trying to be less graphic/nasty and more cute. THC, on the scale of mind-alterers is pretty benign (Hell, back when I used to do that sort of thing*, it mainly made me want to eat/take a nap.) Can't say the same for what I've personally seen of Amp/meth/crack/coke users.
EatTheWeak: I've been in that car, too*. And the one piloted by the tail-end of an acid buzz*("I'm not, you know, glowing too much, am I? It's still dark out and I don't want anybody outside the car to notice.") Both piloted with ridiculous care. :S Ah, to be young and immortal again.
Orb: people with narcolepsy or ischemia might indeed run people down with their car. We should raid their homes and throw them in jail.
...Or just revoke their licence(#8), which seems more reasonable to me, but hey...
*(10+ years ago, officer, honest!)
posted by Orb2069 at 9:06 PM on June 22, 2007
EatTheWeak: I've been in that car, too*. And the one piloted by the tail-end of an acid buzz*("I'm not, you know, glowing too much, am I? It's still dark out and I don't want anybody outside the car to notice.") Both piloted with ridiculous care. :S Ah, to be young and immortal again.
Orb: people with narcolepsy or ischemia might indeed run people down with their car. We should raid their homes and throw them in jail.
...Or just revoke their licence(#8), which seems more reasonable to me, but hey...
*(10+ years ago, officer, honest!)
posted by Orb2069 at 9:06 PM on June 22, 2007
Yes, Orb's solution is best.
A first offence for extremely reckless behavior, like drunk driving, should merely be revocation of the licence for said behavior, no more, no less. And punishments should be serious for continuing without said licence.
I don't see any reason why mind altering drugs are inherently bad. It's simply rong to forbid victimless activities. The governments job is to make sure that said activities remain victimless.
In particular those who sell dangerous drug much be well regulated. If your selling PCP for example, you should be at least a registered nusrse, and be able to lock the customer in a padded room.
posted by jeffburdges at 7:30 AM on June 25, 2007
A first offence for extremely reckless behavior, like drunk driving, should merely be revocation of the licence for said behavior, no more, no less. And punishments should be serious for continuing without said licence.
I don't see any reason why mind altering drugs are inherently bad. It's simply rong to forbid victimless activities. The governments job is to make sure that said activities remain victimless.
In particular those who sell dangerous drug much be well regulated. If your selling PCP for example, you should be at least a registered nusrse, and be able to lock the customer in a padded room.
posted by jeffburdges at 7:30 AM on June 25, 2007
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