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February 12, 2008 2:58 PM Subscribe
Florida police officer dumps quardiplegic man from his wheelchair. From the "about the video" section of the post:
"Investigators say Deputy Charlotte Marshall Jones is suspended without pay after the January 29 incident, which involved 32-year-old Brian Sterner, who is a quadriplegic. Video shows Deputy Jones dumping Sterner out of his wheelchair and onto the floor while she is booking him into the Hillsborough County Jail. The tape also shows the deputy then searching Sterner as he lay on the floor.
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Docobo also said that the supervisors who were in central processing at the time of the incident have been suspended with pay. They include Corporal Decondra Williams, Corporal Steven Dickie, and Sergeant Gary Hinson." (emphasis mine)
From the guidelines: "A good post to MetaFilter is something that meets the following criteria: most people haven't seen it before, there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others."
Yes, it's a single YT link. But it's one helluva YT video.
Get outraged much?
From the guidelines: "A good post to MetaFilter is something that meets the following criteria: most people haven't seen it before, there is something interesting about the content on the page, and it might warrant discussion from others."
Yes, it's a single YT link. But it's one helluva YT video.
Get outraged much?
This post was deleted for the following reason: Outrage-baiting and defensively quoting the site guidelines in your post is kind of a bad sign and certainly bad presentation. This is pretty editorial-plus-gawking stuff; being angry about what happened to Sterner is understandable, but if feels like maybe being angry about it played a little too much of a role in your decision-making here. -- cortex
Yes but I saw a movie once and it had a bad guy in a wheelchair so you need to take these things into account.
posted by Avenger at 3:04 PM on February 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Avenger at 3:04 PM on February 12, 2008 [2 favorites]
A good post also doesn't editorialize.
posted by arcticwoman at 3:06 PM on February 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by arcticwoman at 3:06 PM on February 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
If you've already started defending your post in the [more inside] it might be a good indication to rethink it.
posted by Skorgu at 3:07 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by Skorgu at 3:07 PM on February 12, 2008
Cue the "We aren't seeing everything that happened before this" crowd.
posted by Thorzdad at 3:07 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by Thorzdad at 3:07 PM on February 12, 2008
It would be nice to have some other information - what was he arrested for? Have the supervisors or the deputy in question said anything about the incident? Has Sterner?
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:08 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:08 PM on February 12, 2008
You don't see quadriplegics getting arrested for eluding law enforcement officers every day.
posted by phaedon at 3:11 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by phaedon at 3:11 PM on February 12, 2008
You'd probably be a lot less outraged if you stopped watching video like this.
posted by Dave Faris at 3:12 PM on February 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Dave Faris at 3:12 PM on February 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
This is the sort of story that makes me wish we had fewer OMGCOPZ posts— because this is something to be actually very upset by, but seems to be very much a problem with the individuals involved (e.g. the specific officers), but because of the history of cop-outrage-related discussion, this is likely to become a discussion of how we live in a police state and also fuck the cops.
posted by shakespeherian at 3:12 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by shakespeherian at 3:12 PM on February 12, 2008
In fact, I'll do it for you: the St. Petersburg Times has some biographical information, and MSNBC has more info from Sterner's lawyer.
Potentially interesting topic; but not a great post.
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:13 PM on February 12, 2008
Potentially interesting topic; but not a great post.
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:13 PM on February 12, 2008
spaceman_spiff: there is more information about the video and the department's reaction to it in the "About the Video" section just to the right of the video itself on the YT page. i would have included more links, but i couldn't find anymore (other than another repeat of the same video footage, this time with breathless anchorman commentary)
Skorgu: just trying to derail the "OMG this is not the best of the web" complaints before they start. according to mefi's own guidelines, this post isn't shite. since things can get so ugly so fast in the blue, i was just trying to address the ugly before it started.
too late, i guess.
arcticwoman: you're right. i originally included the "get outraged much" line, and then decided to delete it. i have NO idea how it ended up in the final post.
posted by CitizenD at 3:14 PM on February 12, 2008
Skorgu: just trying to derail the "OMG this is not the best of the web" complaints before they start. according to mefi's own guidelines, this post isn't shite. since things can get so ugly so fast in the blue, i was just trying to address the ugly before it started.
too late, i guess.
arcticwoman: you're right. i originally included the "get outraged much" line, and then decided to delete it. i have NO idea how it ended up in the final post.
posted by CitizenD at 3:14 PM on February 12, 2008
Cortex did it.
posted by Dave Faris at 3:16 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by Dave Faris at 3:16 PM on February 12, 2008
according to mefi's own guidelines, this post isn't shite
Actually, it is. I did in fact read the "About the Video" section, but more context is needed for a good post. There's more to a non-shite post than a good topic.
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:17 PM on February 12, 2008
Actually, it is. I did in fact read the "About the Video" section, but more context is needed for a good post. There's more to a non-shite post than a good topic.
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:17 PM on February 12, 2008
I think you'll find he'a a paraplegic, for what it's worth.
posted by meech at 3:18 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by meech at 3:18 PM on February 12, 2008
I get outraged about things that are a chronic, systemic problem. Individual acts of stupidity annoy me.
posted by Astro Zombie at 3:23 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by Astro Zombie at 3:23 PM on February 12, 2008
meech: nope, he's a quad. Paralysis has to affect all four limbs in order for it to be quadriplegia; it doesn't have to be complete.
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:23 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by spaceman_spiff at 3:23 PM on February 12, 2008
"The best I could do is offer him our apologies," said [Chief Deputy Jose] Docobo. "There's no excuse. This is indefensible. To the extent that we can make it right for this gentleman, we'll attempt to do so."
I'd say a million dollars and and Jones being fired and serving time for assault, is probably going to be the best you can do, chief.
posted by Skygazer at 3:25 PM on February 12, 2008
I'd say a million dollars and and Jones being fired and serving time for assault, is probably going to be the best you can do, chief.
posted by Skygazer at 3:25 PM on February 12, 2008
AstroZombie: i generally agree with you. but, do you think that the utter callousness of the officer's co-workers (walking by the man, ignoring him, laughing at him, etc.) is indicative of a systemic problem, at least in this department?
among other things, i conduct trainings about compassion fatigue with animal shelter employees. the overall response to the single act of stupidity is just as abhorrent -- if not even more so -- than the original act.
posted by CitizenD at 3:27 PM on February 12, 2008
among other things, i conduct trainings about compassion fatigue with animal shelter employees. the overall response to the single act of stupidity is just as abhorrent -- if not even more so -- than the original act.
posted by CitizenD at 3:27 PM on February 12, 2008
Oh, I'm sorry, I was going to lean down and help you but my face hit a blue wall.
posted by phaedon at 3:31 PM on February 12, 2008
posted by phaedon at 3:31 PM on February 12, 2008
Will you people seriously shut the fuck up? Seriously? It's like I can't even click on a god damned link anymore without having to scroll through a couple dozens idiots blathering on about stupid nonsense that belongs in metatalk, anyway. Email the OP ffs. Anything other than this inane bullshit that seems to be the new preamble to every comment section on this website. It's like you're a bunch of chattering hens, scrambling over one another to loudly proclaim, "I know what makes a good post! Me! ME! Your post is fooooolish!"
Dave Faris: You'd probably be a lot less outraged if you stopped watching video like this.
And you probably know a ton about sand, seeing as you prefer to keep your head firmly buried in it.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 3:32 PM on February 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
Dave Faris: You'd probably be a lot less outraged if you stopped watching video like this.
And you probably know a ton about sand, seeing as you prefer to keep your head firmly buried in it.
posted by Baby_Balrog at 3:32 PM on February 12, 2008 [1 favorite]
I...I don't know if this is a good or bad post or whether it's individuals acting alone or a symptom of a bigger problem...or...whatever.
Because I cannot get past how awful it made me feel to watch that.
I've watched the tasering videos and all the rest that we've all seen, but I feel traumatized from watching this. I just...I gasped and turned away. I can't think intellectually about it, because I feel so fucking awful about it.
posted by birdie birdington at 3:33 PM on February 12, 2008
Because I cannot get past how awful it made me feel to watch that.
I've watched the tasering videos and all the rest that we've all seen, but I feel traumatized from watching this. I just...I gasped and turned away. I can't think intellectually about it, because I feel so fucking awful about it.
posted by birdie birdington at 3:33 PM on February 12, 2008
Wow. A banner day on MeFi. Cops beating up a handicapped guy and an Asian sex scandal.
Quick. Somebody check to see if Katie Holmes is pregnant again and hurry up and post it.
posted by tkchrist at 3:34 PM on February 12, 2008
Quick. Somebody check to see if Katie Holmes is pregnant again and hurry up and post it.
posted by tkchrist at 3:34 PM on February 12, 2008
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