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October 29, 2008 11:12 AM Subscribe
How is it that Dick Pound is in danger of loosing his job for saying this word yet it's Margaret Wente's job to write these ones?
This post was deleted for the following reason: Just because it happened in Canada doesn't make it not a crappy attention-getting op-ed. -- cortex
I'm loosing my mind with this one here!
posted by bjork24 at 11:17 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by bjork24 at 11:17 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
Words? You should loose your job for writing these ones, too.
posted by notmydesk at 11:17 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by notmydesk at 11:17 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
Because Dick Pound's job is to organize the Olympics, and Margaret Wente's job is to write newspaper columns.
Your question answered, are we done with this thread now?
posted by bicyclefish at 11:17 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
Your question answered, are we done with this thread now?
posted by bicyclefish at 11:17 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
How is it that he got a prominent job with the name "Dick Pound" in the first place?
posted by Plutor at 11:20 AM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Plutor at 11:20 AM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
In an August interview with La Presse about the Olympics in China, Pound referred to Canada as "un pays de sauvages" 400 years ago.
Jeez, how old is this guy?
posted by Sys Rq at 11:21 AM on October 29, 2008 [4 favorites]
Jeez, how old is this guy?
posted by Sys Rq at 11:21 AM on October 29, 2008 [4 favorites]
"Sauvage" also means "wild". I'm not a Dick Pound apologist, but it is used that way.
You'll often see "fraises sauvages" used on a package of wild strawberries, par example. I often giggle for 5 minutes thinking of "savage" strawberries.
Now I'm chuckling over the idea of "dick pound apologist". So clearly it's one of those days.
I wonder if I could have used more quotation marks and italics in this?
posted by SaintCynr at 11:23 AM on October 29, 2008 [4 favorites]
You'll often see "fraises sauvages" used on a package of wild strawberries, par example. I often giggle for 5 minutes thinking of "savage" strawberries.
Now I'm chuckling over the idea of "dick pound apologist". So clearly it's one of those days.
I wonder if I could have used more quotation marks and italics in this?
posted by SaintCynr at 11:23 AM on October 29, 2008 [4 favorites]
Wente has had a long and successful career of writing nasty things, being ripped into by critics, and then doing it all over again. You don't get prime real estate in the Globe Op-Ed pages by being a thoughtful, logical writer that no one reads.
The last three days of letters to the editor have been filled with anti-Wente missives, which is more than the usual space allotted after one of her more offensive columns. I sense the Globe has been getting some heat.
posted by Paid In Full at 11:29 AM on October 29, 2008
The last three days of letters to the editor have been filled with anti-Wente missives, which is more than the usual space allotted after one of her more offensive columns. I sense the Globe has been getting some heat.
posted by Paid In Full at 11:29 AM on October 29, 2008
I actually have worked with him at the International Society of Olympic Historians, and found him to be honest and fair. From a personal viewpoint, he gets a pass, because I know him to be a man of character.
posted by Senator at 11:29 AM on October 29, 2008
posted by Senator at 11:29 AM on October 29, 2008
Pound him in the Dick
posted by DU at 11:30 AM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by DU at 11:30 AM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
Frankly, I don't see what the problem is. I would love it if America was a land of sausages.
posted by Pollomacho at 11:32 AM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Pollomacho at 11:32 AM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
Is this something I'd have to be either Canadian or a fan of the Olympics to understand?
posted by killdevil at 11:35 AM on October 29, 2008
posted by killdevil at 11:35 AM on October 29, 2008
Dick Stroker
posted by porn in the woods at 11:35 AM on October 29, 2008
posted by porn in the woods at 11:35 AM on October 29, 2008
Shouldn't this be in AskMe?
posted by educatedslacker at 11:38 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by educatedslacker at 11:38 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
Run wild and free, Dick Pound's job! Loose yourself!
posted by batmonkey at 11:40 AM on October 29, 2008
posted by batmonkey at 11:40 AM on October 29, 2008
Lance Armstrong is the president of the Dick Pound fan club.
posted by fixedgear at 11:40 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by fixedgear at 11:40 AM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
The fact of the matter is, this has all been an elaborate exercise in point-missing.
Dick Pound's original statement was clumsy, but as I understand it, has widely been mistranslated. The French term isn't as loaded as the direct translation suggests, any more than Stan Rogers was being racist when he sang of "tracing one warm line through a land so wide and savage" - a verse from a song that's been quoted by Governor Generals and called the country's second national anthem.
(Mind you, those lyrics - much as I love them - could be accused of having a eurocentrism of their own.)
posted by bicyclefish at 11:42 AM on October 29, 2008
Dick Pound's original statement was clumsy, but as I understand it, has widely been mistranslated. The French term isn't as loaded as the direct translation suggests, any more than Stan Rogers was being racist when he sang of "tracing one warm line through a land so wide and savage" - a verse from a song that's been quoted by Governor Generals and called the country's second national anthem.
(Mind you, those lyrics - much as I love them - could be accused of having a eurocentrism of their own.)
posted by bicyclefish at 11:42 AM on October 29, 2008
How is it [...] Margaret Wente's job to write these ones?
Look up "journalist."
posted by regicide is good for you at 11:46 AM on October 29, 2008
Look up "journalist."
posted by regicide is good for you at 11:46 AM on October 29, 2008
The Dick slurred. Je nai compensate pa?
posted by doctorschlock at 11:47 AM on October 29, 2008
posted by doctorschlock at 11:47 AM on October 29, 2008
The only issue here is that Gordon Campbell is an ass and should shut his pie hole. No one really cares what Pound says and he was mistranslated anyway.
posted by GuyZero at 11:53 AM on October 29, 2008
posted by GuyZero at 11:53 AM on October 29, 2008
Oh, I forgot - note how the actual First Nations leaders actually have no comment and haven't said a word about it. NO ONE CARES except Wente who makes a living stirring up shit.
posted by GuyZero at 11:55 AM on October 29, 2008
posted by GuyZero at 11:55 AM on October 29, 2008
You'll often see "fraises sauvages" used on a package of wild strawberries, par example. I often giggle for 5 minutes thinking of "savage" strawberries.
Sure you giggle now. But one day, in the not too distant future, you'll open your fridge to find the milk slashed open and the pomegranates in tatters while tucked behind the asparagus Mr. Guacamole sits sobbing over the corpse of his wife, the good lady Hummus.
Before you can even imagine what has happened, you'll see the ketchup fall over out of the corner of your eye. You'll try to grab it in time, but it will shatter on the floor, spraying gouts of crimson across the kitchen floor.
As you reach for a paper towel to clean up the spattered condiment you'll notice strange impressions in the ketchup. You'll begin to wonder, are those tiny little footsteps?
I've seen it before. God help you on that fateful day. Sweet dreams.
posted by WinnipegDragon at 11:55 AM on October 29, 2008
Sure you giggle now. But one day, in the not too distant future, you'll open your fridge to find the milk slashed open and the pomegranates in tatters while tucked behind the asparagus Mr. Guacamole sits sobbing over the corpse of his wife, the good lady Hummus.
Before you can even imagine what has happened, you'll see the ketchup fall over out of the corner of your eye. You'll try to grab it in time, but it will shatter on the floor, spraying gouts of crimson across the kitchen floor.
As you reach for a paper towel to clean up the spattered condiment you'll notice strange impressions in the ketchup. You'll begin to wonder, are those tiny little footsteps?
I've seen it before. God help you on that fateful day. Sweet dreams.
posted by WinnipegDragon at 11:55 AM on October 29, 2008
Given a translation of "sauvage" as 'savage', it still seems to me as valid a comment on the Europeans of 1510AD.
Also, don't feed the Margaret Wentes.
posted by anthill at 11:56 AM on October 29, 2008
Also, don't feed the Margaret Wentes.
posted by anthill at 11:56 AM on October 29, 2008
NO ONE CARES except Wente who makes a living stirring up shit.
With the help of posts like this one.
posted by regicide is good for you at 11:57 AM on October 29, 2008
With the help of posts like this one.
posted by regicide is good for you at 11:57 AM on October 29, 2008
WinnipegDragon - I think you are on to something there. Guacamole flavored hummus! What a treat!
posted by Big_B at 12:01 PM on October 29, 2008
posted by Big_B at 12:01 PM on October 29, 2008
A guy whose name is "Dick Pound" can say whatever the fuck he wants in my book...
posted by wfrgms at 12:01 PM on October 29, 2008
posted by wfrgms at 12:01 PM on October 29, 2008
Given a translation of "sauvage" as 'savage', it still seems to me as valid a comment on the Europeans of 1510AD humanity.
posted by spaltavian at 12:01 PM on October 29, 2008
posted by spaltavian at 12:01 PM on October 29, 2008
Discussions of pre-poutine Canada make my eyes glaze over like the icing on a Tim Hortons donut.
posted by grounded at 12:03 PM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by grounded at 12:03 PM on October 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
I am not here to make fun of Dick Pound. What people do in the privacy of their own home is their own business.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:05 PM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:05 PM on October 29, 2008 [2 favorites]
I thought this was the blue, not the green?
posted by desjardins at 12:05 PM on October 29, 2008
posted by desjardins at 12:05 PM on October 29, 2008
First Nations people just need to learn French. Problem solved.
(yes, deliberately being an ass)
posted by cjorgensen at 12:05 PM on October 29, 2008
(yes, deliberately being an ass)
posted by cjorgensen at 12:05 PM on October 29, 2008
WinnipegDragon - I think you are on to something there. Guacamole flavored hummus! What a treat!
posted by Big_B at 2:01 PM on October 29 [+] [!]
Well they wanted to have kids, but I guess it's too late now.
posted by WinnipegDragon at 12:06 PM on October 29, 2008
posted by Big_B at 2:01 PM on October 29 [+] [!]
Well they wanted to have kids, but I guess it's too late now.
posted by WinnipegDragon at 12:06 PM on October 29, 2008
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