Falwell-Robertson-Bin Laden Quiz
October 19, 2001 2:29 PM Subscribe
Falwell-Robertson-Bin Laden Quiz Can you tell their statements apart?
I scored a 5 out of 20. I figured the punchline was that none of the statements were attributed to bin Laden.
Interestin'
posted by ethmar at 2:48 PM on October 19, 2001
Interestin'
posted by ethmar at 2:48 PM on October 19, 2001
I scored 8/20.
posted by rebeccablood at 2:48 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by rebeccablood at 2:48 PM on October 19, 2001
12/20.
Funny how some of the least-sane comments (meteors? come on, man!) are NOT made by bin Laden.
posted by Danelope at 2:58 PM on October 19, 2001
Funny how some of the least-sane comments (meteors? come on, man!) are NOT made by bin Laden.
posted by Danelope at 2:58 PM on October 19, 2001
I scored 10 out of 20. Managed to get most of the Jerry Falwell quotes right ... not that I pay any attention to his rantings. It's the style that caught me, somehow. Like ethmar, I, too, thought that the catch would be that none of the statements were from bin Laden,
posted by poorhouse at 3:03 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by poorhouse at 3:03 PM on October 19, 2001
Thanks, dnash. 8 out of 20
posted by thekorruptor at 3:13 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by thekorruptor at 3:13 PM on October 19, 2001
Seven out of twenty for me.
What I found interesting is that I misattributed only one of the statements that were bin Laden's, while I missed all of the others by incorrectly attributing Falwell's words to Robertson and vice-versa.
In other words, had it been a Robertson/Falwell OR bin Laden quiz I would have scored a 19.
Do I get a
, or what?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:15 PM on October 19, 2001
What I found interesting is that I misattributed only one of the statements that were bin Laden's, while I missed all of the others by incorrectly attributing Falwell's words to Robertson and vice-versa.
In other words, had it been a Robertson/Falwell OR bin Laden quiz I would have scored a 19.
Do I get a
, or what?posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:15 PM on October 19, 2001
This shows yet again that Funadmentalism/Extremism of any kind sucks. Doesn't matter what religion it is.....
posted by aacheson at 3:18 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by aacheson at 3:18 PM on October 19, 2001
Of course it matters what religion (and philosophy) it is. It's just that the members of this particular trio all adhere to some really farked up ones.
posted by frednorman at 3:26 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by frednorman at 3:26 PM on October 19, 2001
I feel a little silly. Not until I checked my answers (6/20) did I realize I had been reading "Pat Robertson" as Pat Buchanan.
posted by kurumi at 3:48 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by kurumi at 3:48 PM on October 19, 2001
5/20.
I was also reading Pat Robertson as Pat Buchanan, not that it would have made much difference otherwise.
posted by swift at 4:25 PM on October 19, 2001
I was also reading Pat Robertson as Pat Buchanan, not that it would have made much difference otherwise.
posted by swift at 4:25 PM on October 19, 2001
11 of 20, or 18 of 20 using mr_crash_davis' scoring technique (which makes sense, since Falwell/Robertson appear together so often that distinguishing quotes between them would be a matter of chance for the most part). So thumbs down for the design of the test, which distracts from showing the universality of extreme fundamentalism by throwing in a weighted 3-way multiple choice instead of a simpler binary choice. But point still taken... :)
posted by hincandenza at 4:52 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by hincandenza at 4:52 PM on October 19, 2001
I got 10 of 20, but like Mr_crash_davis and hincandenza, I seemed to often know that something was either Pat or Jerry, but who knew which. Though the "meteor" one I knew cuz I'd read it before.
(Interesting side note to the meteor quote: Robertson said that in response to the existence of an unofficial "gay day" at Disney World. Somewhere out there on the web, though, somebody crunched some numbers and found that Robertson has it backwards - statistically, a large population of homosexuals did not correllate with a high incidence of natural disasters. A large population of fundamentalists, however, did. No idea where that site is, though.)
posted by dnash at 6:25 PM on October 19, 2001
(Interesting side note to the meteor quote: Robertson said that in response to the existence of an unofficial "gay day" at Disney World. Somewhere out there on the web, though, somebody crunched some numbers and found that Robertson has it backwards - statistically, a large population of homosexuals did not correllate with a high incidence of natural disasters. A large population of fundamentalists, however, did. No idea where that site is, though.)
posted by dnash at 6:25 PM on October 19, 2001
I got 10/20. But I agree that it should have been a binary choice (christian fundies vs islamic fundies). My basic stratagy was to attribute more 'geopolitcal' things to Robertson, rather then falwell.
posted by delmoi at 7:27 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by delmoi at 7:27 PM on October 19, 2001
well, we all know falwell and Robertson are ridiculous, but they aren't the same as Bin Laden. Having extreme views is one thing, it's another thing to start blowing stuff up and mass murdering innocent people.
posted by rabbit at 7:43 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by rabbit at 7:43 PM on October 19, 2001
Bifurcated Rivets linked this a few days ago. It deserved MeFi attention but it's only fair to point this out. It's a great when-Matt's-away, links-only, non-pancake substitute, btw.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:48 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by MiguelCardoso at 7:48 PM on October 19, 2001
Ack...8/20...I, too, confused Robertson and Falwell. Oh well, heard one hate monger, heard 'em all...?
posted by airgirl at 7:59 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by airgirl at 7:59 PM on October 19, 2001
4/6 ... interesting test & yet i got bored quikly. i don't care what any these men have to say so why take time to read their quotes? i admit i was clued in to pick roberston over falwell more often b/c i'd read these comments first
posted by danOstuporStar at 8:12 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by danOstuporStar at 8:12 PM on October 19, 2001
My strategy was this: if I thought I'd heard it recently, I picked OBL. If it sounded older than that, I picked Falwell, and if I hadn't heard it all, I picked Robertson... and I scored 11. Oh well...
posted by spilon at 8:50 PM on October 19, 2001
posted by spilon at 8:50 PM on October 19, 2001
"...by throwing in a weighted 3-way multiple choice..."
Heh heh, you said "3-way".
And yes, this brings up images of Falwell, Robertson, and Bin Laden, um, having their way with each other. Or "ways". I forget the rule of grammar there.
And yes, I'm five years old.
posted by lannie628 at 9:46 PM on October 19, 2001
Heh heh, you said "3-way".
And yes, this brings up images of Falwell, Robertson, and Bin Laden, um, having their way with each other. Or "ways". I forget the rule of grammar there.
And yes, I'm five years old.
posted by lannie628 at 9:46 PM on October 19, 2001
Sixteen out of twenty when I took it, which has got to be dumb luck.
[petulant voice]
..posted this link inline to a thread last week sometime, as I wasn't sure it was front-page worthy...
[/petulant voice]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:03 PM on October 19, 2001
[petulant voice]
..posted this link inline to a thread last week sometime, as I wasn't sure it was front-page worthy...
[/petulant voice]
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 11:03 PM on October 19, 2001
well, we all know falwell and Robertson are ridiculous, but they aren't the same as Bin Laden. Having extreme views is one thing, it's another thing to start blowing stuff up and mass murdering innocent people.
I was raised in the Falwell/Robertson camp and I can tell you from experience they're only about a stone's throw away from the kind of extremism that would motivate mass murder.
When the abortion clinics were being bombed, and the doctors were being assassinated, public figures would condemn these acts for pure PR. In fact, everyone in the flock knew it was God's will that killers of the innocent be killed, the people who committed these acts were openly praised behind closed doors, while everyone still understood the need to maintain good public relations these things were not brought into the spotlight.
I really think that without the pressure of the media the Falwell/Robertson people would have no problem at all offing thousands of fellow Americans, and they would start with women who've had abortions, doctors who perform them, gays, lesbians, and pagans. They could do this because they don't see such people as being "people." Christians are people. Pagans are the damned.
They also have a clear desire to trash the constitution and replace it with a fundamentalist Christian theocracy which would control everything from the media to peoples' personal lives. There are books written about how to accomplish this, I can't remember now titles or authors cuz it was so long ago but I can relocate those if anyone's interested enough. Some of those tactics were actually put into use during the 1980s when churches would hold big voter-registration drives and bus its members to the polls for local elections and targeted school boards in particular. Voter turnout for local elections is historically low so a couple busfuls of fundamentalist Christians was very effective at tipping the elections. Then once the school board was nothing but fundamentalists they would bring in the books they wanted, muzzle certain teachers, get other teachers fired, stuff like that. I don't know if they still do this.
Well anyway my point is, far from being just rediculous the Fallwell/Robertson people have the potential to become truly dangerous. Just my 2¢. Sorry to go off about it, this whole subject hits really close to home for me.
posted by zodiac at 1:30 PM on October 20, 2001
I was raised in the Falwell/Robertson camp and I can tell you from experience they're only about a stone's throw away from the kind of extremism that would motivate mass murder.
When the abortion clinics were being bombed, and the doctors were being assassinated, public figures would condemn these acts for pure PR. In fact, everyone in the flock knew it was God's will that killers of the innocent be killed, the people who committed these acts were openly praised behind closed doors, while everyone still understood the need to maintain good public relations these things were not brought into the spotlight.
I really think that without the pressure of the media the Falwell/Robertson people would have no problem at all offing thousands of fellow Americans, and they would start with women who've had abortions, doctors who perform them, gays, lesbians, and pagans. They could do this because they don't see such people as being "people." Christians are people. Pagans are the damned.
They also have a clear desire to trash the constitution and replace it with a fundamentalist Christian theocracy which would control everything from the media to peoples' personal lives. There are books written about how to accomplish this, I can't remember now titles or authors cuz it was so long ago but I can relocate those if anyone's interested enough. Some of those tactics were actually put into use during the 1980s when churches would hold big voter-registration drives and bus its members to the polls for local elections and targeted school boards in particular. Voter turnout for local elections is historically low so a couple busfuls of fundamentalist Christians was very effective at tipping the elections. Then once the school board was nothing but fundamentalists they would bring in the books they wanted, muzzle certain teachers, get other teachers fired, stuff like that. I don't know if they still do this.
Well anyway my point is, far from being just rediculous the Fallwell/Robertson people have the potential to become truly dangerous. Just my 2¢. Sorry to go off about it, this whole subject hits really close to home for me.
posted by zodiac at 1:30 PM on October 20, 2001
i got 14 right, and most of my wrong ones were mixing up falwell and robertson. weeeeird.
posted by sugarfish at 3:18 PM on October 20, 2001
posted by sugarfish at 3:18 PM on October 20, 2001
Updated:
I just got an email from the site creator, Sarah Ovenall, who asked that I pass on the information that she's changed the quiz. Following our suggestions, she's changed the choices to just one or the other, the Falwell/Robertson duo or OBL. She's also changed a few of the questions and some of the wording. Just FYI... she said she would have posted this herself, but of course MeFi isn't taking new members right now.
posted by hincandenza at 9:40 PM on October 20, 2001
I just got an email from the site creator, Sarah Ovenall, who asked that I pass on the information that she's changed the quiz. Following our suggestions, she's changed the choices to just one or the other, the Falwell/Robertson duo or OBL. She's also changed a few of the questions and some of the wording. Just FYI... she said she would have posted this herself, but of course MeFi isn't taking new members right now.
posted by hincandenza at 9:40 PM on October 20, 2001
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