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JOHANNE SACREBLU, a film about France.
This is in response to Emilia Perez, an Oscar-likely movie about Mexico shot in France with no Mexican actors.
This is in response to Emilia Perez, an Oscar-likely movie about Mexico shot in France with no Mexican actors.
Bad enough that Mexico and Mexicans had to contend with racist right-wing American politics, (and just like everyone else) they have to contend with racist paternal liberal politics, so good on them for this.
posted by cendawanita at 8:58 PM on January 27 [5 favorites]
posted by cendawanita at 8:58 PM on January 27 [5 favorites]
To everyone outside Mexico: please do take a minute to watch the Sacreblu film, please ask yourself why a large number of people felt the need to make this. Please ask your Mexican friends and/or read Mexican critics and media how they feel about representation in this movie.
I get that EP is nominated to many Oscars and apparently well received in certain circles. I'm not asking you to change your opinion on it, but do consider the view of those who are supposedly represented in the movie.
posted by andycyca at 7:16 AM on January 28 [4 favorites]
I get that EP is nominated to many Oscars and apparently well received in certain circles. I'm not asking you to change your opinion on it, but do consider the view of those who are supposedly represented in the movie.
posted by andycyca at 7:16 AM on January 28 [4 favorites]
If the French at the beginning is an example of the Spanish in Emelia Perez, oh boy. Wow.
My Spanish is not good (I understood less than half of debi tirar mas photos) but I understood when the director just handwaved away the problems with the setting and language in the manner of French people that there were serious issues. This is much deserved.
posted by fiercekitten at 7:58 AM on January 28 [2 favorites]
My Spanish is not good (I understood less than half of debi tirar mas photos) but I understood when the director just handwaved away the problems with the setting and language in the manner of French people that there were serious issues. This is much deserved.
posted by fiercekitten at 7:58 AM on January 28 [2 favorites]
If the French at the beginning is an example of the Spanish in Emelia Perez, oh boy. Wow.
Yup. It's that bad. Especially Selena Gomez, who seems to speak it as if she's hearing it for the first time, spoken by somebody whispering the lines in her ear, syllable by syllable. The pronunciation of most of the other actors is better, but they are obviously not Mexican. They're not even pretending. It really is as if somebody with a Georgia accent acted as if they were from Boston. A lot of the Spanish in the script also seems to have been translated from another language by an early version of Google Translate.
posted by Omon Ra at 10:44 AM on January 28 [3 favorites]
Yup. It's that bad. Especially Selena Gomez, who seems to speak it as if she's hearing it for the first time, spoken by somebody whispering the lines in her ear, syllable by syllable. The pronunciation of most of the other actors is better, but they are obviously not Mexican. They're not even pretending. It really is as if somebody with a Georgia accent acted as if they were from Boston. A lot of the Spanish in the script also seems to have been translated from another language by an early version of Google Translate.
posted by Omon Ra at 10:44 AM on January 28 [3 favorites]
I haven't seen Emelia Perez, yet. But I think I am far more motivated to see JOHANNE SACREBLU before I see Emelia Perez - I love that they've made this and it looks like fun. And also a pointed commentary on representation issues and who gets to tell what stories about whom.
posted by rmd1023 at 12:16 PM on January 28 [2 favorites]
posted by rmd1023 at 12:16 PM on January 28 [2 favorites]
The comments are pretty hilarious on this one if you read Spanish.
I hadn’t heard of this movie before I learned it was problematique. The Oscars have a history of giving awards to big dumb feel-good movies that are supposed to make you think a thought, and if this qualifies as such, it will probably do well despite the controversy.
posted by Countess Elena at 1:18 PM on January 28 [1 favorite]
I hadn’t heard of this movie before I learned it was problematique. The Oscars have a history of giving awards to big dumb feel-good movies that are supposed to make you think a thought, and if this qualifies as such, it will probably do well despite the controversy.
posted by Countess Elena at 1:18 PM on January 28 [1 favorite]
I just cracked up at the title: Emilia Pérez is the Crash of My Generation
posted by cendawanita at 7:34 PM on January 30 [1 favorite]
posted by cendawanita at 7:34 PM on January 30 [1 favorite]
jessie gender also put out a longer video on youtube. (one with more on just how awful gascón's comments and how audiard seems to leverage gascón to avoid direct criticism can be found on nebula)
posted by i used to be someone else at 2:48 PM on January 31
posted by i used to be someone else at 2:48 PM on January 31
The director has said, among many other things: "Spanish is a language of emerging countries, modest countries; of the poor, of migrants." It is very hard, as a Mexican, to take that gracefully.
posted by Cobalt at 7:31 PM on January 31 [4 favorites]
posted by Cobalt at 7:31 PM on January 31 [4 favorites]
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