The Electoral Commission cites *me* as 'human'.
September 28, 2004 7:26 AM Subscribe
The racist American Election
Thousands of [Florida] felons could get to vote this November for one reason: They're Hispanic.
True, but disenfranchisement of black people would be impossible if the state electoral commission had no data on a voters so-called race.
posted by dash_slot- at 7:47 AM on September 28, 2004
posted by dash_slot- at 7:47 AM on September 28, 2004
" '......we want verification from the world.'
"At that point, Buyer demanded that Brown's words be "taken down," or removed the debate's permanent record.
The House's presiding officer, Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, ruled that Brown's words violated a House rule.
"Members should not accuse other members of committing a crime such as, quote, stealing, end quote, an election," Thornberry said.
When Brown objected to his ruling, the House voted 219-187 to strike her words." - Republican Soviet tactics : wipe the record.
posted by troutfishing at 7:51 AM on September 28, 2004
"At that point, Buyer demanded that Brown's words be "taken down," or removed the debate's permanent record.
The House's presiding officer, Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, ruled that Brown's words violated a House rule.
"Members should not accuse other members of committing a crime such as, quote, stealing, end quote, an election," Thornberry said.
When Brown objected to his ruling, the House voted 219-187 to strike her words." - Republican Soviet tactics : wipe the record.
posted by troutfishing at 7:51 AM on September 28, 2004
Well sure, they should be allowed to vote, come on they're Bush supporters!
If more people in the international community would support Bush then he'd probably try to open up the vote to them as well. As it is, he's trying to make it so only the GOP can vote, that way he can win by a landslide and spend four more years strutting around because of it.
How much longer until the stupid election?
posted by fenriq at 7:58 AM on September 28, 2004
If more people in the international community would support Bush then he'd probably try to open up the vote to them as well. As it is, he's trying to make it so only the GOP can vote, that way he can win by a landslide and spend four more years strutting around because of it.
How much longer until the stupid election?
posted by fenriq at 7:58 AM on September 28, 2004
Wow... following election developments in Florida is like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Very slow motion. Over a month to go and we already know it's likely to be the most manipulated election in US history.
Then again one doesn't have to consider my opinion of it. One can trust the opinion of seasoned election watcher and former US President Jimmy Carter.
posted by clevershark at 8:06 AM on September 28, 2004
Then again one doesn't have to consider my opinion of it. One can trust the opinion of seasoned election watcher and former US President Jimmy Carter.
posted by clevershark at 8:06 AM on September 28, 2004
This is just such a shrill FPP!
No one could ever imagine the GOP selectively disenfranchising voters anywhere. So just shut up!
The convicted felon law is yet another holdover from the "good old days" of Jim Crow and needs removed.
If GOPers really believe that prison is for punishment and not rehabilitation then it logically follows that those who have served their time need no further punishment and thus deserve the right to vote.
Unless, of course, they might be inclined to vote for "the enemy."
Just another example of the GOP endorsing the racist Southern Strategy.
BTW, has everyone seen the article on Karl Rove and his days in the South with all the smear campaigns?
posted by nofundy at 8:09 AM on September 28, 2004
No one could ever imagine the GOP selectively disenfranchising voters anywhere. So just shut up!
The convicted felon law is yet another holdover from the "good old days" of Jim Crow and needs removed.
If GOPers really believe that prison is for punishment and not rehabilitation then it logically follows that those who have served their time need no further punishment and thus deserve the right to vote.
Unless, of course, they might be inclined to vote for "the enemy."
Just another example of the GOP endorsing the racist Southern Strategy.
BTW, has everyone seen the article on Karl Rove and his days in the South with all the smear campaigns?
posted by nofundy at 8:09 AM on September 28, 2004
Good thing you guys are so intent on bringing democracy to the rest of the world. Seems like you've really got it down pat over there. :\
posted by Hildegarde at 8:11 AM on September 28, 2004 [1 favorite]
posted by Hildegarde at 8:11 AM on September 28, 2004 [1 favorite]
At that point, Buyer demanded that Brown's words be "taken down," or removed the debate's permanent record.
That's not what "taken down" means. It means that the speaker's remarks are repeated, so that the chair can determine if they violate the rules. If they do, then they are striken. Taking down the words often does, in fact, result in striking those words, but it's really just the first step--there's nothing automatic.
The effect was pretty much the same, though, as the chair did, in fact, determine that the words violated the rules. There was an objection to that ruling, so it went to a vote.
The odd thing, though, is that the re-reading of the words is in the Congressional Record, so you can still see what she said.
posted by MrMoonPie at 8:21 AM on September 28, 2004
That's not what "taken down" means. It means that the speaker's remarks are repeated, so that the chair can determine if they violate the rules. If they do, then they are striken. Taking down the words often does, in fact, result in striking those words, but it's really just the first step--there's nothing automatic.
The effect was pretty much the same, though, as the chair did, in fact, determine that the words violated the rules. There was an objection to that ruling, so it went to a vote.
The odd thing, though, is that the re-reading of the words is in the Congressional Record, so you can still see what she said.
posted by MrMoonPie at 8:21 AM on September 28, 2004
No one could ever imagine the GOP selectively disenfranchising voters anywhere. So just shut up!
um, you're joking right?
if not: just shut up?
Good one.
posted by dig_duggler at 8:42 AM on September 28, 2004
um, you're joking right?
if not: just shut up?
Good one.
posted by dig_duggler at 8:42 AM on September 28, 2004
oh, you are joking. just mark me down as an idiot and I'll move on.
posted by dig_duggler at 8:43 AM on September 28, 2004
posted by dig_duggler at 8:43 AM on September 28, 2004
You're playing into their hands by calling the election racist. You see, "racist" can be more easily debated than if you used the word "rigged."
posted by fleener at 9:22 AM on September 28, 2004
posted by fleener at 9:22 AM on September 28, 2004
old news, yet pertinent, no?
We're amassing quite a list of election violations and things to watch out for next month. Florida, Ohio...(and people really should investigate Chicago's incredibly high spoiled vote rate for blacks there.)
posted by amberglow at 10:39 AM on September 28, 2004
We're amassing quite a list of election violations and things to watch out for next month. Florida, Ohio...(and people really should investigate Chicago's incredibly high spoiled vote rate for blacks there.)
posted by amberglow at 10:39 AM on September 28, 2004
Watch Wisconsin as well. In the last election flyers were sent out to poor neighbourhoods with incorrect information on voting eligibility. Michigan Republicans has referred to the black vote in Detroit as a problem.
posted by substrate at 11:28 AM on September 28, 2004
posted by substrate at 11:28 AM on September 28, 2004
You know, I liked it better when I voted in elections that I didn't know were massively rigged one way or the other. I mean, I'm pretty sure they were, but man, if I'm going to participate in the dumbshow, I want the illusion that it actually matters.
posted by solistrato at 1:42 PM on September 28, 2004
posted by solistrato at 1:42 PM on September 28, 2004
speaking of elections ... this interactive electoral map is pretty cool as is this economist/yougov poll putting kerry in the lead
posted by specialk420 at 3:29 PM on September 28, 2004
posted by specialk420 at 3:29 PM on September 28, 2004
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