Umm....is this right?
March 8, 2005 9:28 AM Subscribe
KA-BOOM! I know Duke was based on him, but i was expecting...oh i dont know...a little nicer?
It's an appropriately hallucinogenic response. What do you think would happen to you if the real person you're based on died?
posted by blakewest at 9:32 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by blakewest at 9:32 AM on March 8, 2005
Pissing on graves is really quite cathartic. It's up there with pushing handicapped children down stairwells, and tripping grandmothers at the mall.
Try it out.
posted by xmutex at 9:32 AM on March 8, 2005
Try it out.
posted by xmutex at 9:32 AM on March 8, 2005
The first time as tragedy, the second as farce perhaps?
posted by Verdant at 9:33 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by Verdant at 9:33 AM on March 8, 2005
His head asplodes!
Wait, why is this pissing? The character based on him clearly can't get his head around the real Duke's death. Where's the piss?
posted by dabitch at 9:33 AM on March 8, 2005
Wait, why is this pissing? The character based on him clearly can't get his head around the real Duke's death. Where's the piss?
posted by dabitch at 9:33 AM on March 8, 2005
maybe its the BOOM and his head vaporizing i have problems with...esp considering HOW he died.
posted by ShawnString at 9:34 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by ShawnString at 9:34 AM on March 8, 2005
Im not sure if its possible to piss on HSTs grave in a nonliteral sense.
posted by mek at 9:34 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by mek at 9:34 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by dabitch at 9:34 AM on March 8, 2005
I'm with Shawn. Pretty tasteless on Trudeau's part.
posted by AlexReynolds at 9:34 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by AlexReynolds at 9:34 AM on March 8, 2005
I don't read this as anything but a graphical representation of *head explodes*.
posted by me3dia at 9:35 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by me3dia at 9:35 AM on March 8, 2005
Well let's see where he goes with it. . .it's only tuesday and he has the whole week to play it out. . .I will withhold judgement until Saturday.
posted by Danf at 9:38 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by Danf at 9:38 AM on March 8, 2005
Actually, there may be some subtext here. I remember an interview with Thompson (by PJ O'Rourke of all people) where he slags Doonesbury and says something like "I think he had to put a character like me in there because all his other charachters are so boring," and "I hope people don't think Me and this guy are buddies or something."
So maybe Trudeau's getting some revenge or something.
posted by jonmc at 9:38 AM on March 8, 2005
So maybe Trudeau's getting some revenge or something.
posted by jonmc at 9:38 AM on March 8, 2005
Again, I ask thee who consider it tasteless to explain why it is so. Please, I don't get it.
looks at comic again. Sees "graphical representation of *head explodes*" phrase, can't find the offensive part.
posted by dabitch at 9:39 AM on March 8, 2005
looks at comic again. Sees "graphical representation of *head explodes*" phrase, can't find the offensive part.
posted by dabitch at 9:39 AM on March 8, 2005
blakewest has it here, folks. I'm shocked and appalled and outraged and incredulous and speechless and baffled that all of you are not able to understand the subtleties of this comic.
Shocked.
posted by xmutex at 9:40 AM on March 8, 2005
Shocked.
posted by xmutex at 9:40 AM on March 8, 2005
Yes, I'm sure Hunter would've wanted something solemn and respectful.
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 9:41 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by PinkStainlessTail at 9:41 AM on March 8, 2005
Aw, come on. What would Hunter T. say at a time like this? Would he be sensitive and empathetic? Or would he ... just.... laugh his head off?
posted by zaelic at 9:43 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by zaelic at 9:43 AM on March 8, 2005
I'm with Shawn. Pretty tasteless on Trudeau's part.
As opposed to HST who was never tasteless.
posted by 327.ca at 9:50 AM on March 8, 2005
As opposed to HST who was never tasteless.
posted by 327.ca at 9:50 AM on March 8, 2005
Consider, Gary no longer has the person his character Duke is based on. What to do with Duke? What would you do.. make him disappear in a puff of smoke seems reasonably witty.
posted by stbalbach at 9:50 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by stbalbach at 9:50 AM on March 8, 2005
As opposed to HST who was never tasteless.
I don't understand your comment. Are you saying HST drew pictures of people who committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head, in order to elicit laughs?
posted by AlexReynolds at 9:53 AM on March 8, 2005
I don't understand your comment. Are you saying HST drew pictures of people who committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head, in order to elicit laughs?
posted by AlexReynolds at 9:53 AM on March 8, 2005
This is the guy who asked for his ashes to be shot from a cannon....
posted by xammerboy at 9:55 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by xammerboy at 9:55 AM on March 8, 2005
I don't see the pissing either. Let's wait and see what GT has in mind . . .
posted by ahimsakid at 9:57 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by ahimsakid at 9:57 AM on March 8, 2005
I liked and respected HST and see this as sort of entirely appropriate and even funny. Just my opinion though.
posted by Joey Michaels at 9:57 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by Joey Michaels at 9:57 AM on March 8, 2005
Well let's see where he goes with it. . .it's only tuesday and he has the whole week to play it out. . .I will withhold judgement until Saturday.
Agreed; there's no point getting all up in arms over this without seeing where the storyline is headed. This is not a one-liner type of strip, it's an ongoing epic, remember. Let's see what happens letter before ripping Trudeau a new one. After all, yesterday, it began like this.
posted by Miko at 9:57 AM on March 8, 2005
Agreed; there's no point getting all up in arms over this without seeing where the storyline is headed. This is not a one-liner type of strip, it's an ongoing epic, remember. Let's see what happens letter before ripping Trudeau a new one. After all, yesterday, it began like this.
posted by Miko at 9:57 AM on March 8, 2005
Complaining about "treating HST's suicide tastelessly" is less respectful to his legacy than any amount of cartoon cloud action. So there.
posted by freebird at 9:59 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by freebird at 9:59 AM on March 8, 2005
Consider, Gary no longer has the person his character Duke is based on. What to do with Duke? What would you do.. make him disappear in a puff of smoke seems reasonably witty.
I don't think that Trudeau is going to get rid of Uncle Duke. Duke's his easiest lazy plot device.
posted by Mayor Curley at 10:04 AM on March 8, 2005
I don't think that Trudeau is going to get rid of Uncle Duke. Duke's his easiest lazy plot device.
posted by Mayor Curley at 10:04 AM on March 8, 2005
This is tame, compared to suggesting that someone's body ought to be ejected out a sewage waste pipe, or burned in a trash bin.
HST was not a guy to stand on ceremony or on taste; if he's watching from somewhere he'll appreciate the sentiment.
Also, didn't he at some point kinda make peace with Trudeau over the character? I thought I remembered reading that.
posted by Yelling At Nothing at 10:06 AM on March 8, 2005
HST was not a guy to stand on ceremony or on taste; if he's watching from somewhere he'll appreciate the sentiment.
Also, didn't he at some point kinda make peace with Trudeau over the character? I thought I remembered reading that.
posted by Yelling At Nothing at 10:06 AM on March 8, 2005
I don't understand your comment. Are you saying HST drew pictures of people who committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head, in order to elicit laughs?
No, Alex. I don't remember him writing anything about suicide apart from the note which is reported to have been in his typewriter when he killed himself (an otherwise blank page with "word" typed in the centre.)
HST was a monument to many things, including spectacular and enthusiastically applied bad taste. I'm sure he would have found Trudeu's homage hilarious and touching.
BTW, this link is to only the first several (already published in our local paper) forming a single story. I'm guessing you've not yet seen the rest -- and that you may change your mind.
posted by 327.ca at 10:06 AM on March 8, 2005
No, Alex. I don't remember him writing anything about suicide apart from the note which is reported to have been in his typewriter when he killed himself (an otherwise blank page with "word" typed in the centre.)
HST was a monument to many things, including spectacular and enthusiastically applied bad taste. I'm sure he would have found Trudeu's homage hilarious and touching.
BTW, this link is to only the first several (already published in our local paper) forming a single story. I'm guessing you've not yet seen the rest -- and that you may change your mind.
posted by 327.ca at 10:06 AM on March 8, 2005
Actually, the single sheet of paper in the typewriter said "counselor".
posted by Miko at 10:11 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by Miko at 10:11 AM on March 8, 2005
Actually, the single sheet of paper in the typewriter said "counselor".
Oh well, I knew it wasn't "rosebud".
posted by 327.ca at 10:14 AM on March 8, 2005
Oh well, I knew it wasn't "rosebud".
posted by 327.ca at 10:14 AM on March 8, 2005
Of course it's a cliffhanger, but I'd say it's pretty clear Trudeau's pissed about HST's orchestrated exit scenario. As Duke functioned as a kind of alterego for HST, so did HST function as the alterego of GT's creation. So how to restore the disintegrated Duke? Seems like the Google reference is key, although I'm not yet sure where he's gonna take it. It all strikes me as meta gonzo.
posted by thinkpiece at 10:17 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by thinkpiece at 10:17 AM on March 8, 2005
I think it is great, and perfectly appropriate. As several have pointed out, the idea of the strip is that Duke's hallucinations are being triggered by the news of Thompson's death. Trudeau used to draw lots of drug flashback sequences for Duke, this is a return to that tradition. It isn't supposed to be a reference to Thompson's suicide.
posted by LarryC at 10:21 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by LarryC at 10:21 AM on March 8, 2005
BTW, this link is to only the first several (already published in our local paper) forming a single story. I'm guessing you've not yet seen the rest -- and that you may change your mind.
Hwuh? Your paper prints all the Doonesburys for a given week at once? I mean, this link is to today's strip. What gives?
Anyway, I'm on the fence on this: It is certainly tasteless given the details of the suicide, and I can't tell if Trudeau means that as an homage or a snap. If only I had access to that local paper of 327.ca's.
posted by soyjoy at 10:22 AM on March 8, 2005
Hwuh? Your paper prints all the Doonesburys for a given week at once? I mean, this link is to today's strip. What gives?
Anyway, I'm on the fence on this: It is certainly tasteless given the details of the suicide, and I can't tell if Trudeau means that as an homage or a snap. If only I had access to that local paper of 327.ca's.
posted by soyjoy at 10:22 AM on March 8, 2005
I think you're all overanalyzing it. Trudeau's been doing a lot of simple self-referential gags over the past few years (like the "reader mail" segments). Not really his funniest stuff, IMHO. Frankly, I'm surprised it lasted a second day.
posted by PlusDistance at 10:27 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by PlusDistance at 10:27 AM on March 8, 2005
The strip seems OK to me. I can't picture Thompson wanting us to get all solemn and sad at his passing, he certainly wasn't a sentimentalist. If you really want to honor his memory, get yourself a quart of Wild Turkey, some high powered blotter acid, a real fast motorcycle and go take a long ride in the dark. Passing on blind corners is mandatory.
posted by doctor_negative at 10:27 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by doctor_negative at 10:27 AM on March 8, 2005
Someone should get Hunter's nephew Zonker on the telephone, see what he thinks.
posted by DrJohnEvans at 10:37 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by DrJohnEvans at 10:37 AM on March 8, 2005
Are you saying HST drew pictures of people who committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head, in order to elicit laughs?
Dude. Unclench a little.
posted by Specklet at 10:38 AM on March 8, 2005
Dude. Unclench a little.
posted by Specklet at 10:38 AM on March 8, 2005
"Tasteless" is a odd word to apply to a little cartoon about somebody that, in real life, blew their brains out in their kitchen with their 6 year old grandchild in the house.
posted by NortonDC at 10:39 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by NortonDC at 10:39 AM on March 8, 2005
Seems a fitting way to write about HST. The guy was many things, but not subtle. The strip is tamer then say Hunter's diatribe against Nixon.
posted by edgeways at 10:51 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by edgeways at 10:51 AM on March 8, 2005
I admit the reference to shooting oneself didn't occur to me until I read it here. Duke's famously had all sorts of adventures that start with his cranium opening. He and Duke Jr. shot a couple of bats that flew out of his head. Weird Don-Martinesque sounds and surrealistic images come out of Duke's head all the time.
I read it as a depiction of a fictional character who reads his real-life counterpart is dead and reacts with a drug-fueled "wow". There was no reference to shooting in the strip that I saw. It could be implied, yes, but I didn't see it as such.
posted by petebest at 10:52 AM on March 8, 2005
I read it as a depiction of a fictional character who reads his real-life counterpart is dead and reacts with a drug-fueled "wow". There was no reference to shooting in the strip that I saw. It could be implied, yes, but I didn't see it as such.
posted by petebest at 10:52 AM on March 8, 2005
Ah, screw you naysayers. HST is watching, tippling a flask, and laughing his ass off right now.
That's a fact.
posted by Shane at 11:09 AM on March 8, 2005
That's a fact.
posted by Shane at 11:09 AM on March 8, 2005
If only I had access to that local paper of 327.ca's.
Hey, I'll put it up on eBay! (Just kidding.)
posted by 327.ca at 11:13 AM on March 8, 2005
Hey, I'll put it up on eBay! (Just kidding.)
posted by 327.ca at 11:13 AM on March 8, 2005
Hwuh? Your paper prints all the Doonesburys for a given week at once? I mean, this link is to today's strip. What gives?
Well, that's just fine Canadian communications technology for ya.
If only I had access to that local paper of 327.ca's.
No sweat. I'll put it up on eBay!
posted by 327.ca at 11:14 AM on March 8, 2005
Well, that's just fine Canadian communications technology for ya.
If only I had access to that local paper of 327.ca's.
No sweat. I'll put it up on eBay!
posted by 327.ca at 11:14 AM on March 8, 2005
Sorry for the double post. Some kind of weird lag in that fine Canadian communications technology...
posted by 327.ca at 11:16 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by 327.ca at 11:16 AM on March 8, 2005
In case folks didn't know, comic strips are provided to syndicates in 1-week bundles, one week ahead of time. That's why it took this long for a Duke storyline to appear (cartoonists aren't staying up late drawing comics the night before they appear). Most publishers publish them daily, but they don't always have to. That can cause ruffled feathers in the print world, as we saw when C. Schulz died and people were trading on the final cartoon before it appeared in most outlets.
posted by Miko at 11:23 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by Miko at 11:23 AM on March 8, 2005
Hmm. The way I read the comic is that the first ka-boom is figurative/hallucinatory, and the second one is meant to be, at least possibly, literal.
Duke reads a rumour in email and his head figuratively explodes. Then once the news is confirmed, The POV (respectfully?) exits his office. There's an explosion that's not just audible to Duke and the Reader, but also to Honey in the next room. I thought this at least raised the possibility that, like HST, Duke shot himself.
Am I alone in this reading?
posted by ManInSuit at 11:25 AM on March 8, 2005
Duke reads a rumour in email and his head figuratively explodes. Then once the news is confirmed, The POV (respectfully?) exits his office. There's an explosion that's not just audible to Duke and the Reader, but also to Honey in the next room. I thought this at least raised the possibility that, like HST, Duke shot himself.
Am I alone in this reading?
posted by ManInSuit at 11:25 AM on March 8, 2005
AlexReynolds gets offended and complains about something
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*head explodes*
posted by delmoi at 11:29 AM on March 8, 2005
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*head explodes*
posted by delmoi at 11:29 AM on March 8, 2005
"If you really want to honor his memory, get yourself a quart of Wild Turkey, some high powered blotter acid, a real fast motorcycle and go take a long ride in the dark. Passing on blind corners is mandatory."
Seconded and momentarily considered...
ManInSuit : I agree that that is a possibility, but let's see where GT goes with it...I'm sure it will be explained in the next installment.
posted by schyler523 at 11:34 AM on March 8, 2005
Seconded and momentarily considered...
ManInSuit : I agree that that is a possibility, but let's see where GT goes with it...I'm sure it will be explained in the next installment.
posted by schyler523 at 11:34 AM on March 8, 2005
Why should we wait? 327.ca, what happens next? You got that auction going yet?
posted by soyjoy at 11:37 AM on March 8, 2005
posted by soyjoy at 11:37 AM on March 8, 2005
AlexReynolds gets offended and complains about something
Delmoi, seriously, shove it up your ass. All I said was that I thought it was tasteless. You don't have to agree and I don't expect you to.
posted by AlexReynolds at 11:38 AM on March 8, 2005
Delmoi, seriously, shove it up your ass. All I said was that I thought it was tasteless. You don't have to agree and I don't expect you to.
posted by AlexReynolds at 11:38 AM on March 8, 2005
Why should we wait? 327.ca, what happens next? You got that auction going yet?
Well, y'know, for the right incentive I suppose I could give you a hint about what happens...
posted by 327.ca at 11:41 AM on March 8, 2005
Well, y'know, for the right incentive I suppose I could give you a hint about what happens...
posted by 327.ca at 11:41 AM on March 8, 2005
Ye gods, what a mess this has turned out to be.
You know what's a truly tasteless tribute to the good doctor? Taking self-righteous offence to the lack of delicacy with which his disappearance from the Doonesbury strip is portrayed. Thompson didn't like Uncle Duke very much, and he detested delicacy and self-righteousness.
The third panel of this Doonesbury strip (Verdant also linked to it above) is a brilliant homage.
Here's an interview in which Thompson growls about his distaste for Uncle Duke.
Here's Thompson's Playboy interview, just because.
Here's the text of Richard Nixon's infamous "Checkers speech," which is the kind of sanctimonious bullshit Thompson himself found offensive.
So: can we close the book on the "tasteless" debate now? Please?
posted by gompa at 11:45 AM on March 8, 2005
You know what's a truly tasteless tribute to the good doctor? Taking self-righteous offence to the lack of delicacy with which his disappearance from the Doonesbury strip is portrayed. Thompson didn't like Uncle Duke very much, and he detested delicacy and self-righteousness.
The third panel of this Doonesbury strip (Verdant also linked to it above) is a brilliant homage.
Here's an interview in which Thompson growls about his distaste for Uncle Duke.
Here's Thompson's Playboy interview, just because.
Here's the text of Richard Nixon's infamous "Checkers speech," which is the kind of sanctimonious bullshit Thompson himself found offensive.
So: can we close the book on the "tasteless" debate now? Please?
posted by gompa at 11:45 AM on March 8, 2005
So: can we close the book on the "tasteless" debate now? Please?
It's not a debate, it's called expressing an opinion. But thanks for your sanctimony.
posted by AlexReynolds at 11:49 AM on March 8, 2005
It's not a debate, it's called expressing an opinion. But thanks for your sanctimony.
posted by AlexReynolds at 11:49 AM on March 8, 2005
woah...chill out all...i didn't mean to put this up as a "OMG how could he be so tasteless, etc"
my complaint was (and hopefully it will all be cool by sat) i was hoping for something a little less..coincidental.
Hmm. The way I read the comic is that the first ka-boom is figurative/hallucinatory, and the second one is meant to be, at least possibly, literal.
exactly.
really didn't mean for this to become a flame-fest. i swear
posted by ShawnString at 11:53 AM on March 8, 2005
my complaint was (and hopefully it will all be cool by sat) i was hoping for something a little less..coincidental.
Hmm. The way I read the comic is that the first ka-boom is figurative/hallucinatory, and the second one is meant to be, at least possibly, literal.
exactly.
really didn't mean for this to become a flame-fest. i swear
posted by ShawnString at 11:53 AM on March 8, 2005
327.ca writes " Well, y'know, for the right incentive I suppose I could give you a hint about what happens..."
How about us not kicking your ass? ;)
posted by graventy at 11:56 AM on March 8, 2005
How about us not kicking your ass? ;)
posted by graventy at 11:56 AM on March 8, 2005
It's not a debate, it's called expressing an opinion. But thanks for your sanctimony.
Note to self: look up definitions of "expressing an opinion" and "complaining" to alleviate confusion.
posted by Specklet at 11:57 AM on March 8, 2005
Note to self: look up definitions of "expressing an opinion" and "complaining" to alleviate confusion.
posted by Specklet at 11:57 AM on March 8, 2005
How about us not kicking your ass? ;)
You're offering not to kick my ass if I give you a hint about what happens...? Heh, all right then!
Honey hears the KA-BOOM and says, "Sir? Are you okay in there?" Then shg90..q7f20
NO CARRIER
posted by 327.ca at 12:03 PM on March 8, 2005
You're offering not to kick my ass if I give you a hint about what happens...? Heh, all right then!
Honey hears the KA-BOOM and says, "Sir? Are you okay in there?" Then shg90..q7f20
NO CARRIER
posted by 327.ca at 12:03 PM on March 8, 2005
Gee, thanks AlexR!!! I didn't know they had dictionaries available online!!!
posted by Specklet at 12:10 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by Specklet at 12:10 PM on March 8, 2005
No prob. Happy to help.
posted by AlexReynolds at 12:12 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by AlexReynolds at 12:12 PM on March 8, 2005
gompa: On a totally unrelated note, it's funny you linked that intervew, since it never (as far as I know) got offically published. I was turned onto it because the interviewer is my ex's cousin. He's also a total prick, so they should have gotten along famously.
posted by absalom at 12:16 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by absalom at 12:16 PM on March 8, 2005
Aex: You gotta admit, you get offended every time the breeze changes direction around here.
posted by xmutex at 12:51 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by xmutex at 12:51 PM on March 8, 2005
You gotta admit, you get offended every time the breeze changes direction around here.
Don't know about you, xmutex, but I've moved on to other more interesting articles in AskMe and Mefi. I think I mentioned once that I thought this unfunny cartoon was tasteless. I haven't changed my mind, but I'm not getting into a tizzy over it, either. Fight amongst yourselves, if it makes you feel more important. /rolls_eyes
posted by AlexReynolds at 12:58 PM on March 8, 2005
Don't know about you, xmutex, but I've moved on to other more interesting articles in AskMe and Mefi. I think I mentioned once that I thought this unfunny cartoon was tasteless. I haven't changed my mind, but I'm not getting into a tizzy over it, either. Fight amongst yourselves, if it makes you feel more important. /rolls_eyes
posted by AlexReynolds at 12:58 PM on March 8, 2005
Um, is it just Berek, or does anyone else find this incredible fawning over a third rate hack unseemly?
posted by berek at 1:01 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by berek at 1:01 PM on March 8, 2005
Again, I ask thee who consider it tasteless to explain why it is so.
I'll make the attempt:
The comic strip is tasteless because making Duke's head explode figuratively, while his significant other is in the other room, appears to mock how Thompson made the sick -- even by his standards -- decision to blow his brains out with his wife on the phone and loved ones in the house.
I don't care what all the affectionate obits say -- that was a pretty violent mindfuck to lay on your loved ones. I feel like Trudeau's taking a shot at Thompson here, and it would be disappointing to find out otherwise, since Doonesbury could use the edge: It's about as hard-hitting these days as Tank McNamara.
Even if it is tasteless, Thompson seemed like a person who would rather have people pissing on his grave than shedding tears over it.
(Do not infer from this post that I disliked Thompson, as much of a misanthrope as he was. The guy was an Elvis figure to journalistic wretches. I miss him already.)
posted by rcade at 1:08 PM on March 8, 2005
I'll make the attempt:
The comic strip is tasteless because making Duke's head explode figuratively, while his significant other is in the other room, appears to mock how Thompson made the sick -- even by his standards -- decision to blow his brains out with his wife on the phone and loved ones in the house.
I don't care what all the affectionate obits say -- that was a pretty violent mindfuck to lay on your loved ones. I feel like Trudeau's taking a shot at Thompson here, and it would be disappointing to find out otherwise, since Doonesbury could use the edge: It's about as hard-hitting these days as Tank McNamara.
Even if it is tasteless, Thompson seemed like a person who would rather have people pissing on his grave than shedding tears over it.
(Do not infer from this post that I disliked Thompson, as much of a misanthrope as he was. The guy was an Elvis figure to journalistic wretches. I miss him already.)
posted by rcade at 1:08 PM on March 8, 2005
Now approaching Trollsville. Pay Troll ahead.
Alas, Miko, this thread blew past Trollsville hours ago. AlexR has sped on ahead to Smugstown, which he insists is quite lovely this time of year, and berek has inexplicably attempted to hijack the remaining passengers and force them to join him in Assholevania.
Me, I like it here in Fort Travesty. Think I might sit a spell and drink tequila.
*takes swig, proffers bottle*
posted by gompa at 1:16 PM on March 8, 2005
Alas, Miko, this thread blew past Trollsville hours ago. AlexR has sped on ahead to Smugstown, which he insists is quite lovely this time of year, and berek has inexplicably attempted to hijack the remaining passengers and force them to join him in Assholevania.
Me, I like it here in Fort Travesty. Think I might sit a spell and drink tequila.
*takes swig, proffers bottle*
posted by gompa at 1:16 PM on March 8, 2005
"I feel like Trudeau's taking a shot at Thompson here..."
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahaa...ha... hee... erm... um... * ... (cough)
You mean you weren't being funny?
Sorry. Carry on.
posted by Mike D at 1:21 PM on March 8, 2005
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahaa...ha... hee... erm... um... * ... (cough)
You mean you weren't being funny?
Sorry. Carry on.
posted by Mike D at 1:21 PM on March 8, 2005
Me, I like it here in Fort Travesty. Think I might sit a spell and drink tequila.
You're confused, gompa. You got off on Sanctimonia, instead.
posted by AlexReynolds at 1:21 PM on March 8, 2005
You're confused, gompa. You got off on Sanctimonia, instead.
posted by AlexReynolds at 1:21 PM on March 8, 2005
Gimmie that tequila. Better I should suck down a couple shots than say what I want to about a certain whiny someone.
posted by Specklet at 1:27 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by Specklet at 1:27 PM on March 8, 2005
Sometimes, Specklet, I hear the wind cry "sanctimony . . . sanctimony . . ." And each time I do, I feel for just a moment this strange sense of shame, like the Southern Baptist Convention has named me Self-Righteous Killjoy of the Year or something. A feeling like that. But then I just take another nip of this here tequila, and it passes. It always passes.
*takes another swig, hands bottle to Specklet*
posted by gompa at 1:34 PM on March 8, 2005
*takes another swig, hands bottle to Specklet*
posted by gompa at 1:34 PM on March 8, 2005
NO CARRIER
Thanks for the laugh 327.ca.
It's about as hard-hitting these days as Tank McNamara.
I actually didn't start reading Doonesbury regularly until BD lost his leg. I'm sure I'm not the only one with a buddy over there...
posted by manicroom at 1:41 PM on March 8, 2005
Thanks for the laugh 327.ca.
It's about as hard-hitting these days as Tank McNamara.
I actually didn't start reading Doonesbury regularly until BD lost his leg. I'm sure I'm not the only one with a buddy over there...
posted by manicroom at 1:41 PM on March 8, 2005
If you want to see verbal pissing on H.T's corpse, check out what Wall St Journal and Weekly Standard (or was it National Rev?) had to say! venom galore
posted by Postroad at 1:42 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by Postroad at 1:42 PM on March 8, 2005
...like the Southern Baptist Convention has named me Self-Righteous Killjoy of the Year or something...
Your sanctimonious posturing is well-informed and interesting. I would like to subscribe to your blog.
posted by AlexReynolds at 1:54 PM on March 8, 2005
Your sanctimonious posturing is well-informed and interesting. I would like to subscribe to your blog.
posted by AlexReynolds at 1:54 PM on March 8, 2005
My favorite part was when AlexReynolds called everyone else sanctimonious. It was exciting!
posted by painquale at 2:25 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by painquale at 2:25 PM on March 8, 2005
If you want to see verbal pissing on H.T's corpse, check out what Wall St Journal and Weekly Standard (or was it National Rev?) had to say! venom galore
Postroad, I didn't see the Standard or National Review's coverage, but the Wall St. Journal's remembrance was written by Tom Wolfe, who related some amusing personal anecdotes and discussed HST's writing in absolutely glowing terms... Wolfe called Thompson "the twentieth century's greatest comic writer in English" and even compared him (favorably) to Mark Twain! If there was venom there, I certainly missed it (and if there was another WSJ article I missed that too.)
I *did* see William F Buckley's syndicated column, which was definitely (and needlessly) pissy, but even WFB devoted many inches to the high esteem in which HST was held by many writers, including Buckley's son Chris.
posted by enrevanche at 2:26 PM on March 8, 2005
Postroad, I didn't see the Standard or National Review's coverage, but the Wall St. Journal's remembrance was written by Tom Wolfe, who related some amusing personal anecdotes and discussed HST's writing in absolutely glowing terms... Wolfe called Thompson "the twentieth century's greatest comic writer in English" and even compared him (favorably) to Mark Twain! If there was venom there, I certainly missed it (and if there was another WSJ article I missed that too.)
I *did* see William F Buckley's syndicated column, which was definitely (and needlessly) pissy, but even WFB devoted many inches to the high esteem in which HST was held by many writers, including Buckley's son Chris.
posted by enrevanche at 2:26 PM on March 8, 2005
WELL, HIS HEAD ASPLODE
posted by Pretty_Generic at 2:41 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by Pretty_Generic at 2:41 PM on March 8, 2005
I had to sign up to comment. Speaking of tasteless, here is my own cartoon tribute to Hunter S. Thompson. Considering the nature of Thompson's life and work, I think a tribute like mine or Trudeau's is entirely appropriate.
posted by ScottMorris at 3:03 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by ScottMorris at 3:03 PM on March 8, 2005
SHANCTIMOMINOUS! ASPLODE!
*chews on lime wedge*
Okay, I go backa work now.
posted by Specklet at 3:08 PM on March 8, 2005
*chews on lime wedge*
Okay, I go backa work now.
posted by Specklet at 3:08 PM on March 8, 2005
Appropriate or not, Trudeau almost caused me to ruin my keyboard by blowing coffee all over it laughing. "Nasty karmic shift" indeed! I'm looking forward to the rest of this week.
posted by alumshubby at 3:34 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by alumshubby at 3:34 PM on March 8, 2005
I actually didn't start reading Doonesbury regularly until BD lost his leg. I'm sure I'm not the only one with a buddy over there
I've been reading Doonesbury since Day One. No Shit. When I went to England in 77 for six months the one thing I asked my mom to do for me was to save the Sunday Doonesbury-- God love her-- she cut out and saved every one including the dailies. I still get nostalgic when I think of how young and fresh everybody was in Still A Few Bugs In The System
Trudeau was a great cartoonist during the Nixon years-- there was no one else in the funny pages to compare either before or after. A pulitzer prize winning daily strip!? A comic strip that combined politics, sociology, and absurd humor as seen through the eyes of regular characters? (Some folk think Pogo came close.)
So I stuck with him through the dull years as he aged the characters. They all married and had kids and got dull, dull, dull, and I kept thinking Trudeau would announce his retirement. But I think Bush's reign has given him a second wind. I was as shocked as anyone when BD lost his leg.
And now this. I think my eyes bugged out and my jaw dropped to the floor at breakfast this morning. I can't wait to see tomorrow's paper.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:02 PM on March 8, 2005
I've been reading Doonesbury since Day One. No Shit. When I went to England in 77 for six months the one thing I asked my mom to do for me was to save the Sunday Doonesbury-- God love her-- she cut out and saved every one including the dailies. I still get nostalgic when I think of how young and fresh everybody was in Still A Few Bugs In The System
Trudeau was a great cartoonist during the Nixon years-- there was no one else in the funny pages to compare either before or after. A pulitzer prize winning daily strip!? A comic strip that combined politics, sociology, and absurd humor as seen through the eyes of regular characters? (Some folk think Pogo came close.)
So I stuck with him through the dull years as he aged the characters. They all married and had kids and got dull, dull, dull, and I kept thinking Trudeau would announce his retirement. But I think Bush's reign has given him a second wind. I was as shocked as anyone when BD lost his leg.
And now this. I think my eyes bugged out and my jaw dropped to the floor at breakfast this morning. I can't wait to see tomorrow's paper.
posted by Secret Life of Gravy at 4:02 PM on March 8, 2005
Coming out of retirement just to say that after all the nasty things said about Reagan when he died, no one on this website should object to this cartoon.
I had a grudging fondness for HST until he did what he did, with the wife on the phone and the grandkid in the next room.
As to Uncle Duke, he is fictional. Who cares what happens to him?
posted by konolia at 4:29 PM on March 8, 2005
I had a grudging fondness for HST until he did what he did, with the wife on the phone and the grandkid in the next room.
As to Uncle Duke, he is fictional. Who cares what happens to him?
posted by konolia at 4:29 PM on March 8, 2005
I think "Nasty Karmic Shift" was yesterday's strip. I read Doonsbury via slate and that's how Slate has the line-up. I am impatient for the third in the series....
posted by mmahaffie at 4:33 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by mmahaffie at 4:33 PM on March 8, 2005
Hunh. I walked into my living room after reading today's strip and said to my husband "Wow. Doonesbury was really tasteless today. What an appropriate tribute." And we both liked HST.
posted by Ruki at 6:23 PM on March 8, 2005
posted by Ruki at 6:23 PM on March 8, 2005
The Wednesday strip is online and Uncle Duke lives! (sorta)
"I've stumbled into some sort of tribute, haven't I?"
posted by wendell at 11:11 PM on March 8, 2005
"I've stumbled into some sort of tribute, haven't I?"
posted by wendell at 11:11 PM on March 8, 2005
I'm in the hilarious and appropriate camp on this one. Trudeau could have ignored Hunter's death or done some sappy single panel tribute that's unbefitting to Doonesbury, Thompson, and Duke. But he chose to treat it "in character" with a playful nod to fans of all three. It's nice to see Trudeau rattle some cages again. It's been a while since I've been so anxious for the next strip in a Doonesbury storyline.
posted by Slack-a-gogo at 5:11 AM on March 9, 2005
posted by Slack-a-gogo at 5:11 AM on March 9, 2005
The Washington Post has an article today on the Doonesbury tribute. Some points (all emphasis mine):
"Trudeau said ... he had no plans to have art imitate life [with Duke being killed off]. Reached by phone in his New York studio, he said that he had done a week's worth of strips as a tribute to Thompson and that he hoped Tuesday's would not be misinterpreted."
"After the literally explosive 'Doonesbury' strip ran yesterday, neither the cartoonist, his syndicator nor the American Association of Sunday and Feature Editors -- a newspaper group that keeps an eye on such potential controversies -- reported any blowback. There were no complaints, said Universal Press Syndicate editor Lee Salem. 'We've had nothing move over our listserv about it,' said Penny Bender Fuchs, the AASFE's executive director."
Guess they didn't check in with some folks on this site though.
posted by terrapin at 5:44 AM on March 9, 2005
"Trudeau said ... he had no plans to have art imitate life [with Duke being killed off]. Reached by phone in his New York studio, he said that he had done a week's worth of strips as a tribute to Thompson and that he hoped Tuesday's would not be misinterpreted."
"After the literally explosive 'Doonesbury' strip ran yesterday, neither the cartoonist, his syndicator nor the American Association of Sunday and Feature Editors -- a newspaper group that keeps an eye on such potential controversies -- reported any blowback. There were no complaints, said Universal Press Syndicate editor Lee Salem. 'We've had nothing move over our listserv about it,' said Penny Bender Fuchs, the AASFE's executive director."
Guess they didn't check in with some folks on this site though.
posted by terrapin at 5:44 AM on March 9, 2005
I came to post the Washpost article but will instead wave at konolia.
And thank goodness Duke lives! I'm like SOLG - I've read all of them since day one - and can't imagine life without Mike and the gang.
posted by CunningLinguist at 5:56 AM on March 9, 2005
And thank goodness Duke lives! I'm like SOLG - I've read all of them since day one - and can't imagine life without Mike and the gang.
posted by CunningLinguist at 5:56 AM on March 9, 2005
My jaw is agape due to the inability of seemingly intelligent people to not be able to understand a quite straightforward and not at all obtuse fucking COMIC STRIP.
For those with their panties in a wad, you don't understand HST, and he's laughing at you, because you're exactly the kind of person he detested. Go tirelessly defend and crusade for someone who would give a shit.
I didn't worship HST like some people, but understanding his viewpoint is not very difficult given even a cursory attempt.
posted by Ynoxas at 8:33 AM on March 9, 2005
For those with their panties in a wad, you don't understand HST, and he's laughing at you, because you're exactly the kind of person he detested. Go tirelessly defend and crusade for someone who would give a shit.
I didn't worship HST like some people, but understanding his viewpoint is not very difficult given even a cursory attempt.
posted by Ynoxas at 8:33 AM on March 9, 2005
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