Flying Rhino thinks of the children
January 14, 2008 3:29 PM Subscribe
Much of the Flying Rhino back catalogue is now available for free from their website, with more to come. In return, they're asking for donations to Children Walking Tall, a charity set up to help children living on the streets in Goa.
Finally! Sweeeeeet! Excellent choice of charity. Am glad to see some trance on Metafilter, especially the real-deal goa trance.
I know what my night is going to be like ...
posted by krinklyfig at 3:42 PM on January 14, 2008
I know what my night is going to be like ...
posted by krinklyfig at 3:42 PM on January 14, 2008
Sorr to be dumb, but are these only available as QuickTime streams? How do I download the mp3 to my desktop/itunes?
Sorry to be dumb.
posted by foxy_hedgehog at 3:45 PM on January 14, 2008
Sorry to be dumb.
posted by foxy_hedgehog at 3:45 PM on January 14, 2008
this is pretty cool, anyone know what the bit rate is and drm? (yes I respect copyright but I do a fair bit of personal transfer between player, mixes, hard copy etc)
posted by edgeways at 4:31 PM on January 14, 2008
posted by edgeways at 4:31 PM on January 14, 2008
So, um, this is all Goa Trance?
Uh… ok.
Now I know how those whiners who ask for NSFW tags feel.
posted by klangklangston at 4:44 PM on January 14, 2008
Uh… ok.
Now I know how those whiners who ask for NSFW tags feel.
posted by klangklangston at 4:44 PM on January 14, 2008
edgeways writes "this is pretty cool, anyone know what the bit rate is and drm? (yes I respect copyright but I do a fair bit of personal transfer between player, mixes, hard copy etc)"
It's mp3, so there's no DRM. At least FreeBSD isn't telling me about any, and I've never known mp3 to work effectively with DRM. At first glance it looks like the free stuff is low bitrate, 128K. The mastering on some of those earlier albums wasn't that hot compared to post-2000 releases, so it may not matter too much, but I do notice the difference more in compressed electronic music, mostly in the loss of bass harmonics, so I buy nearly everything I listen to anymore. If you dj, you really need the uncompressed version to play over big PAs. Still, some classic stuff from an historic and vital label in the genre. I hope the other artists will get on board with this ... there's a lot of them releasing free mp3s now, but Beatport is where you gotta go to buy the uncompressed, dj-friendly files. I'm good with that, but it would be nice to at least get 256K bitrate.
posted by krinklyfig at 5:41 PM on January 14, 2008
It's mp3, so there's no DRM. At least FreeBSD isn't telling me about any, and I've never known mp3 to work effectively with DRM. At first glance it looks like the free stuff is low bitrate, 128K. The mastering on some of those earlier albums wasn't that hot compared to post-2000 releases, so it may not matter too much, but I do notice the difference more in compressed electronic music, mostly in the loss of bass harmonics, so I buy nearly everything I listen to anymore. If you dj, you really need the uncompressed version to play over big PAs. Still, some classic stuff from an historic and vital label in the genre. I hope the other artists will get on board with this ... there's a lot of them releasing free mp3s now, but Beatport is where you gotta go to buy the uncompressed, dj-friendly files. I'm good with that, but it would be nice to at least get 256K bitrate.
posted by krinklyfig at 5:41 PM on January 14, 2008
Wow. I think I still have some of this on vinyl somewhere.
...from the whole 6 months I thought it might be fun to spin goa.
House/TechHouse was infinitely more fun
posted by flaterik at 7:40 PM on January 14, 2008
...from the whole 6 months I thought it might be fun to spin goa.
House/TechHouse was infinitely more fun
posted by flaterik at 7:40 PM on January 14, 2008
klangklangston: heh, sorry, I guess I should have included a bit of background.
flaterik: I'm curious, what did you find un-fun about goa? Most of the mixes I've heard have been kind of flat in intensity, great for the first 20 minutes and then kind of monotonous. Kind of rife with ugly transitions too, but maybe that's just because I'm not looking in the right places. I've never mixed anything in my life, though, so I'm wondering what it looks like from the other side of the decks.
posted by plant at 8:52 PM on January 14, 2008
flaterik: I'm curious, what did you find un-fun about goa? Most of the mixes I've heard have been kind of flat in intensity, great for the first 20 minutes and then kind of monotonous. Kind of rife with ugly transitions too, but maybe that's just because I'm not looking in the right places. I've never mixed anything in my life, though, so I'm wondering what it looks like from the other side of the decks.
posted by plant at 8:52 PM on January 14, 2008
Goa bored me in a few ways.
From a purely DJ perspective... it's very hard to mix in a fun way. Given that the melodies and such tend to continue to the very last, rather than cutting out at some point and giving you a lead out, it's hard to do much more than cursory mixes.
And a music listener/dancer... too many damn breakdowns. Usually just when I'd start to get into it, there'd be yet another goddamn 64 measure breakdown with swirly noises and some sort of sample about dune.
Some of the later stuff (aka after I got bored with it, which was still in the Hallucinogen timeframe) started to merge closer to techno and took care of some of those issues, but by that time I found myself drawn either the grooves of house and breaks or the more pure driven beats of techno. Goa falls into some weird middle ground that just stopped moving me.
... I wish it did, because the most consistently energetic and fun crowds I ran into for a very long time were Moontribes, which leaned HEAVILY towards psy-trance/goa. I'd often find myself at parties with great energies and great dancefloors and great soundsystems, but just utterly unable to find a groove.
posted by flaterik at 9:38 PM on January 14, 2008
From a purely DJ perspective... it's very hard to mix in a fun way. Given that the melodies and such tend to continue to the very last, rather than cutting out at some point and giving you a lead out, it's hard to do much more than cursory mixes.
And a music listener/dancer... too many damn breakdowns. Usually just when I'd start to get into it, there'd be yet another goddamn 64 measure breakdown with swirly noises and some sort of sample about dune.
Some of the later stuff (aka after I got bored with it, which was still in the Hallucinogen timeframe) started to merge closer to techno and took care of some of those issues, but by that time I found myself drawn either the grooves of house and breaks or the more pure driven beats of techno. Goa falls into some weird middle ground that just stopped moving me.
... I wish it did, because the most consistently energetic and fun crowds I ran into for a very long time were Moontribes, which leaned HEAVILY towards psy-trance/goa. I'd often find myself at parties with great energies and great dancefloors and great soundsystems, but just utterly unable to find a groove.
posted by flaterik at 9:38 PM on January 14, 2008
flaterik writes "... I wish it did, because the most consistently energetic and fun crowds I ran into for a very long time were Moontribes, which leaned HEAVILY towards psy-trance/goa. I'd often find myself at parties with great energies and great dancefloors and great soundsystems, but just utterly unable to find a groove."
Yeah, it's not for everyone, and I'm OK with that. It's hugely popular in many places around the world. Somewhat in the US, but not as much, and pretty much concentrated in a few places on the west coast, SF, NYC, and a few places in between. I really like nu-skool breaks and some tech house, some deep house, some d&b, some electro, but goa and psy is the only thing that really stuck with me. House just bores me most of the time. I like what a skilled DJ can do with sparse techno tracks, layering them to make a new sound, but I really like the composition of some goa and psy artists. And a particularly good, trancey track will take me somewhere else, sort of like meditation - a whole night of that can be a very interesting journey, in the right hands. It's just a different approach, more composition-oriented, just harder to find in the US.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:57 PM on January 14, 2008
Yeah, it's not for everyone, and I'm OK with that. It's hugely popular in many places around the world. Somewhat in the US, but not as much, and pretty much concentrated in a few places on the west coast, SF, NYC, and a few places in between. I really like nu-skool breaks and some tech house, some deep house, some d&b, some electro, but goa and psy is the only thing that really stuck with me. House just bores me most of the time. I like what a skilled DJ can do with sparse techno tracks, layering them to make a new sound, but I really like the composition of some goa and psy artists. And a particularly good, trancey track will take me somewhere else, sort of like meditation - a whole night of that can be a very interesting journey, in the right hands. It's just a different approach, more composition-oriented, just harder to find in the US.
posted by krinklyfig at 9:57 PM on January 14, 2008
This isn't all Goa Trance, folks. They stopped (though maybe not totally, completely) doing that stuff by the end of 1998.
I wish it was available for download, but Slide's "Confusional State" is a totally fantastic fucking piece of music. I wish that sound had caught on or that someone else had even done something in that style. It's a track with a really housey feel. I heard DJ Mark Allen play a set of tracks that sounded kind of like it at Earthcore's New Year's 2000 party in Australia. I don't know how long he was playing that stuff before or after.
"White Rhino" is a really nice mix CD and "Psyko Disko" (which I thought was only a Psy-Harmonics release) is a great bit of frenetic madness, particularly the "Te Loco" track.
Unfortunately, none of the things I have mentioned are available or available in their entirety on that page. Crap.
What is available, however, is Roger Waters' daughter on a bed with a horse's head in between her legs on the cover of Green Nuns of the Revolution's "Rock Bitch Mafia". I believe they thanked Mother Teresa in the liner notes for that one.
posted by redteam at 10:43 PM on January 14, 2008
I wish it was available for download, but Slide's "Confusional State" is a totally fantastic fucking piece of music. I wish that sound had caught on or that someone else had even done something in that style. It's a track with a really housey feel. I heard DJ Mark Allen play a set of tracks that sounded kind of like it at Earthcore's New Year's 2000 party in Australia. I don't know how long he was playing that stuff before or after.
"White Rhino" is a really nice mix CD and "Psyko Disko" (which I thought was only a Psy-Harmonics release) is a great bit of frenetic madness, particularly the "Te Loco" track.
Unfortunately, none of the things I have mentioned are available or available in their entirety on that page. Crap.
What is available, however, is Roger Waters' daughter on a bed with a horse's head in between her legs on the cover of Green Nuns of the Revolution's "Rock Bitch Mafia". I believe they thanked Mother Teresa in the liner notes for that one.
posted by redteam at 10:43 PM on January 14, 2008
Also free to download and musically related, I found these mixes by American DJ collective Audiognomes pretty good.
posted by Glow Bucket at 12:44 AM on January 15, 2008
posted by Glow Bucket at 12:44 AM on January 15, 2008
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