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July 29, 2008 8:16 PM Subscribe
So ya skateboard, ya go ta prison, ya get a movie made of ya, you get famous, ya come out, ya get in the NYT, ya try to get t' the x-games...
Does "come out" not think what I think it means here?
posted by [NOT HERMITOSIS-IST] at 8:33 PM on July 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by [NOT HERMITOSIS-IST] at 8:33 PM on July 29, 2008 [1 favorite]
I fail to see what Jay Adams has to do with skateboarding in 2008. Sure he paved the way back in the seventies with the Zephyr guys, and had talent to boot; but seriously has the guy even pushed the wood in the last quarter-century? It's good to see him on the straight and narrow for the sake of his wife and kids, but photos of him holding a modern double kick board seem a little disingenous to me.
Still, he was amazing for his day.
posted by nudar at 8:38 PM on July 29, 2008
Still, he was amazing for his day.
posted by nudar at 8:38 PM on July 29, 2008
I find it very difficult to forgive him for inciting a mob to stomp a man to death for being gay.
posted by MegoSteve at 8:53 PM on July 29, 2008 [4 favorites]
posted by MegoSteve at 8:53 PM on July 29, 2008 [4 favorites]
I find it very difficult to forgive him for inciting a mob to stomp a man to death for being gay.
That is disturbing, and makes me wonder what else his buddy Stacey Peralta left out of the (awesome) "Dogtown and Z-Boys" and the (absolutely horrendous turd) "Lords of Dogtown."
posted by drjimmy11 at 8:56 PM on July 29, 2008
That is disturbing, and makes me wonder what else his buddy Stacey Peralta left out of the (awesome) "Dogtown and Z-Boys" and the (absolutely horrendous turd) "Lords of Dogtown."
posted by drjimmy11 at 8:56 PM on July 29, 2008
Gay basher, manson tattoo, smack and meth loser...what's not to like?
Seriously, the skate thing was a long time ago; this is like one of those guys who ran the winning touch down at the homecoming game and hasn't done shit since.
Get a regular job and try to take care of your daughter dude.
We'll always have Venice.
posted by 2sheets at 8:59 PM on July 29, 2008
Seriously, the skate thing was a long time ago; this is like one of those guys who ran the winning touch down at the homecoming game and hasn't done shit since.
Get a regular job and try to take care of your daughter dude.
We'll always have Venice.
posted by 2sheets at 8:59 PM on July 29, 2008
I fail to see what Jay Adams has to do with skateboarding in 2008.
Jay Adams, probably more so than any of the other original Dogtown guys, was responsible for defining the whole skatepunk archetype. The whole subculture can pretty much be traced directly back to him. He's made a lot of mistakes in life, done some unforgivable things, and is definitely no saint, but he's also not just some loser "who ran the winning touch down at the homecoming game and hasn't done shit since".
posted by DecemberBoy at 9:44 PM on July 29, 2008
Jay Adams, probably more so than any of the other original Dogtown guys, was responsible for defining the whole skatepunk archetype. The whole subculture can pretty much be traced directly back to him. He's made a lot of mistakes in life, done some unforgivable things, and is definitely no saint, but he's also not just some loser "who ran the winning touch down at the homecoming game and hasn't done shit since".
posted by DecemberBoy at 9:44 PM on July 29, 2008
Ya get a terrible FPP made about ya at MetaFilter...
posted by crossoverman at 10:03 PM on July 29, 2008
posted by crossoverman at 10:03 PM on July 29, 2008
"He also has a 14-year-old son, Seven, who lives in Santa Cruz, Calif."
"I defy you to come up with a better name than Seven."
"Alright, let's see... How about Mug? Mug Costanza. That's original. Or Ketchup. Pretty name for a girl."
"Alright... You having a good time now?"
"I've got fifty right here in the cupboard... How about Bisquick? Pimento? Gherkin? Sauce? Maxwell House?"
"Alright already!!"
posted by william_boot at 10:19 PM on July 29, 2008
"I defy you to come up with a better name than Seven."
"Alright, let's see... How about Mug? Mug Costanza. That's original. Or Ketchup. Pretty name for a girl."
"Alright... You having a good time now?"
"I've got fifty right here in the cupboard... How about Bisquick? Pimento? Gherkin? Sauce? Maxwell House?"
"Alright already!!"
posted by william_boot at 10:19 PM on July 29, 2008
One of my coworkers is Jai Flores, the son of Ray Flores, one of the original Dogtown crew. Jai's first name is in part derived from "Jay" in Jay Adams. I learned this because I asked him why he had all the Dogtown swag...
posted by Tube at 10:22 PM on July 29, 2008
posted by Tube at 10:22 PM on July 29, 2008
As someone who was a big part of the skateboarding scene in the 1980s, I have little empathy for Jay Adams. Sure, he was one of MANY influential skaters in the 1970s, but not the only one. He was eclipsed by Duane Peters when it comes to crazy punk skater dudes.
posted by strangeleftydoublethink at 10:52 PM on July 29, 2008
posted by strangeleftydoublethink at 10:52 PM on July 29, 2008
Jay Adams, probably more so than any of the other original Dogtown guys, was responsible for defining the whole skatepunk archetype.
I dunno Decemberboy, I'd prob attribute that to Tony Alva moreso than Jay, if you're talking Dogtown era.
He is most definitely one of the founding fathers of modern skateboarding, and I respect him for that, but it's not like he's made any contribution to the scene since the early Eighties. That was a long time ago and alot has happened since then.
posted by nudar at 11:07 PM on July 29, 2008
I dunno Decemberboy, I'd prob attribute that to Tony Alva moreso than Jay, if you're talking Dogtown era.
He is most definitely one of the founding fathers of modern skateboarding, and I respect him for that, but it's not like he's made any contribution to the scene since the early Eighties. That was a long time ago and alot has happened since then.
posted by nudar at 11:07 PM on July 29, 2008
He don't look the fittest of guys now, and that's a very flattering camera angle... I suspect if he got on a board now he'd snap it
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 2:53 AM on July 30, 2008
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 2:53 AM on July 30, 2008
I get where you are coming from nudar, but I don't think anyone is saying he's particularly relevant to the 2008 skate scene, except historically. It's just an interesting little human interest story in the NYT really. Here's hoping he can keep his nose to the grind and avoid any potholes on the road to recovery. Sorry.
posted by Onanist at 5:07 AM on July 30, 2008
posted by Onanist at 5:07 AM on July 30, 2008
I'm pretty sure he wants to attend the XGames. Not sure what relevance that has to do with him not being on a board for a while. There's lots of venom here from people who generally seem to believe that you do your time, you get rehabilitated and you get on with your life. He's the first to admit that he's made a lot of mistakes along the way.
posted by jbelshaw at 8:41 AM on July 30, 2008
posted by jbelshaw at 8:41 AM on July 30, 2008
strangeleftydoublethink said:
"As someone who was a big part of the skateboarding scene in the 1980s, I have little empathy for Jay Adams."
I wasn't a big part of the scene, but was part of a skatepunk crew in Houston in the late '80s. Read the glossy magazines and the crunchy 'zines and learned a lot about where skating had been over the years.
And when I finally ran across the tidbit about Jay Adams making a rude comment that led to a human stomped to death for loving someone of their own gender, I...I just couldn't give a damn about whatever legal problem he was facing at the time that caused his name to get brought up.
Now, with years between that discovery and his wish to attend the X-Games, I kinda hope the system lets him go, so he can see what's come of that system he hated so much.
do you think he'll even notice how many times "fag" and "gay" are used as insults by that crowd?
...that just made me realise I'd love to see an all-gay skate team kicking ass and taking names at a future competition.
posted by batmonkey at 12:34 PM on July 30, 2008
"As someone who was a big part of the skateboarding scene in the 1980s, I have little empathy for Jay Adams."
I wasn't a big part of the scene, but was part of a skatepunk crew in Houston in the late '80s. Read the glossy magazines and the crunchy 'zines and learned a lot about where skating had been over the years.
And when I finally ran across the tidbit about Jay Adams making a rude comment that led to a human stomped to death for loving someone of their own gender, I...I just couldn't give a damn about whatever legal problem he was facing at the time that caused his name to get brought up.
Now, with years between that discovery and his wish to attend the X-Games, I kinda hope the system lets him go, so he can see what's come of that system he hated so much.
do you think he'll even notice how many times "fag" and "gay" are used as insults by that crowd?
...that just made me realise I'd love to see an all-gay skate team kicking ass and taking names at a future competition.
posted by batmonkey at 12:34 PM on July 30, 2008
Get a regular job
Um, the article states pretty clearly that he has a regular job (at a skateboard park).
posted by ornate insect at 1:31 PM on July 30, 2008
Um, the article states pretty clearly that he has a regular job (at a skateboard park).
posted by ornate insect at 1:31 PM on July 30, 2008
The X-Games are still around? Is there really an all-gay skate team? That might make me watch... otherwise, it's usually less entertaining than professional mini-golf.
posted by mrgrimm at 8:07 AM on July 31, 2008
posted by mrgrimm at 8:07 AM on July 31, 2008
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