You're Stealing it Wrong: 30 Years of Inter-Pirate Battles
October 9, 2010 7:52 AM Subscribe
You're Stealing it Wrong: 30 Years of Inter-Pirate Battles. A presentation at DefCon by Jason Scott.
Cool, he's the guy who runs textfiles.com! It's an excellent site if you want to get a glimpse at the really old Internet, with all the BBSes.
posted by Senza Volto at 8:18 AM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Senza Volto at 8:18 AM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
This is really good.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:05 AM on October 9, 2010
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 9:05 AM on October 9, 2010
I loved it. Shame he is cut off early by DefCon. There are so many great one liners, and the whole talk is pretty fascinating.
posted by chunking express at 9:18 AM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by chunking express at 9:18 AM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
That was quite interesting. Thank you.
posted by Diablevert at 9:26 AM on October 9, 2010
posted by Diablevert at 9:26 AM on October 9, 2010
By MetaFilter's own jscott.
It's too bad he got got cut off when he did, I thought it was just getting really interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing the last 20 minutes or so expanded into a whole hour.
posted by The Lurkers Support Me in Email at 10:07 AM on October 9, 2010 [2 favorites]
It's too bad he got got cut off when he did, I thought it was just getting really interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing the last 20 minutes or so expanded into a whole hour.
posted by The Lurkers Support Me in Email at 10:07 AM on October 9, 2010 [2 favorites]
If anyone's interested in reading the current scene release rules, most of them are online here.
posted by Rhomboid at 10:24 AM on October 9, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by Rhomboid at 10:24 AM on October 9, 2010 [2 favorites]
That was really good. Thanks, Jason (and thanks chunking express for posting this).
posted by mosk at 11:33 AM on October 9, 2010
posted by mosk at 11:33 AM on October 9, 2010
Good times
posted by elpapacito at 1:34 PM on October 9, 2010
posted by elpapacito at 1:34 PM on October 9, 2010
I wanted to get better at stealing; this presentation didn't improve my wares acquisition skills (funny how Scott's presentation reminded me we didn't used to end every piraty word with z). Other than that it was great! And cutting him off to play hacker jeopardy? I call bullshit.
Seriously though, thanks for posting this. I'm a sucker for this kind of thing. The history and evolution of any subculture is fascinating to learn about.
posted by Glee at 3:25 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
Seriously though, thanks for posting this. I'm a sucker for this kind of thing. The history and evolution of any subculture is fascinating to learn about.
posted by Glee at 3:25 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
I wouldn't mind seeing the last 20 minutes or so expanded into a whole hour.
I disagree. I want it expanded into a book. Big, fat, book, with huge production values, that I can pass on to my children.
posted by No-sword at 4:35 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
I disagree. I want it expanded into a book. Big, fat, book, with huge production values, that I can pass on to my children.
posted by No-sword at 4:35 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
I disagree. I want it expanded into a book. Big, fat, book, with huge production values, that I can pass on to my children.
Nah, it'd have to be an epic documentary with seventeen discs and a crate of feelies.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:38 PM on October 9, 2010
Nah, it'd have to be an epic documentary with seventeen discs and a crate of feelies.
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 5:38 PM on October 9, 2010
To hell with it, I want this material made into a theme park. Get on it, jscott!
posted by No-sword at 5:45 PM on October 9, 2010
posted by No-sword at 5:45 PM on October 9, 2010
Fans of this may also enjoy his Before the LOL talk at ROFLCON 1.
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:25 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:25 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
shit man i started it got into it got bored turned back to it flipped thru midway through got completely hooked then they kicked him off for hacker jeopardy?! what the hell. anyway quite fascinating, surprisingly so. why ain't bbs the doc available on netflix
posted by jcruelty at 7:01 PM on October 9, 2010
posted by jcruelty at 7:01 PM on October 9, 2010
Glad everyone's enjoyed it. Well, except that last guy.
If you want more speeches I've given: a history of Jason never shutting up.
posted by jscott at 8:35 PM on October 9, 2010 [3 favorites]
If you want more speeches I've given: a history of Jason never shutting up.
posted by jscott at 8:35 PM on October 9, 2010 [3 favorites]
Having time limits for speeches/presentations is pretty standard practice. I don't think that's a surprising thing at all -- lots of conventions will cut you off if you go over because otherwise they'd never maintain a schedule. If you've ever taken a public speaking class you know that it's extremely easy to overrun your time limit unless you've rehearsed the speech quite a bit. TED for example has a big count-down clock at the foot of the stage that starts blinking at 2 minutes left (I think.)
posted by Rhomboid at 10:39 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by Rhomboid at 10:39 PM on October 9, 2010 [1 favorite]
In case you're implying something, the layout of the printed schedule made me think I had the room longer than an hour, and I planned for that. I was sure that Hacker Jeopardy was being held in a different room. In a previous presentation for defcon, they let me go for nearly two hours.
Regardless, I find the clipped ending hilarious.
posted by jscott at 11:21 PM on October 9, 2010 [2 favorites]
Regardless, I find the clipped ending hilarious.
posted by jscott at 11:21 PM on October 9, 2010 [2 favorites]
If you're into such things, as I am, you might also be interested in Recollection (http://recollection.c64.org), which is an effort to document the history of the c64 pirate scene. The first two issues are available on the web, however issue #3 is still only readable using a c64 or emulator. It's really quite fascinating...
posted by jaymzjulian at 12:00 AM on October 10, 2010 [2 favorites]
posted by jaymzjulian at 12:00 AM on October 10, 2010 [2 favorites]
Fascinating to learn that even the scene is riven with People's Front Of Judea rivalries. I'd have loved to have seen another hour of that stuff.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:51 AM on October 10, 2010 [1 favorite]
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:51 AM on October 10, 2010 [1 favorite]
Don't get me wrong, there was a lot of really great really interesting material here.
But it was really not a presentation as such, more just a core dump.
If, however, jscott says (as he does), that he had a planned for a two hour talk rather than a one hour talk, that would explain why there appears to be no specific conclusion nor a strong sense of an organization of material towards a specific point. We didn't get to the point yet.
So to anyone interested in this, don't be surprised that a) it seems to take forever to get to the organizing thought, b) never quite does because it's cut short due to time constraints.
posted by jefflowrey at 7:59 AM on October 10, 2010
But it was really not a presentation as such, more just a core dump.
If, however, jscott says (as he does), that he had a planned for a two hour talk rather than a one hour talk, that would explain why there appears to be no specific conclusion nor a strong sense of an organization of material towards a specific point. We didn't get to the point yet.
So to anyone interested in this, don't be surprised that a) it seems to take forever to get to the organizing thought, b) never quite does because it's cut short due to time constraints.
posted by jefflowrey at 7:59 AM on October 10, 2010
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posted by chunking express at 7:56 AM on October 9, 2010 [7 favorites]