AN ILLUSTRATED JOURNEY INTO MY THOUGHTS
April 17, 2012 9:31 AM Subscribe
I have looked at this and I can confirm that it is horrible, in awesome and unintentional ways.
posted by verb at 9:34 AM on April 17, 2012 [5 favorites]
posted by verb at 9:34 AM on April 17, 2012 [5 favorites]
So should "thoughts".
posted by neuromodulator at 9:38 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by neuromodulator at 9:38 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
I'm confused - did he draw these when he was 12 or is that the date as 2012? Because ...
posted by jabberjaw at 9:39 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by jabberjaw at 9:39 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
Is there something I'm missing? Is him going public with them an act of performance art?
posted by zarq at 9:40 AM on April 17, 2012
posted by zarq at 9:40 AM on April 17, 2012
He actually had a signing table in artist ally at a comic convention... that's a ballsy move
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:43 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:43 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Is that hashtag/backslash/dollar sign really his signature? Never before have I glimpsed the blackness of a person's soul so clearly through such a narrow window.
posted by cmoj at 9:43 AM on April 17, 2012 [12 favorites]
posted by cmoj at 9:43 AM on April 17, 2012 [12 favorites]
He actually had a signing table in artist ally at a comic convention... that's a ballsy move
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 5:43 PM on April 17 [+] [!]
I quite like the two pages in this link.
posted by dng at 9:44 AM on April 17, 2012
This seems like something James Franco would do.
posted by Fizz at 9:44 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 9:44 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
Yes, but James Franco would do it delightfully in all possible ways.
posted by elizardbits at 9:45 AM on April 17, 2012 [12 favorites]
posted by elizardbits at 9:45 AM on April 17, 2012 [12 favorites]
Yes, this reads exactly like something I would have written in middle school. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing yet, but it's certainly something.
Also is his signature really a dollar sign? How quaint.
posted by Doleful Creature at 9:46 AM on April 17, 2012
Also is his signature really a dollar sign? How quaint.
posted by Doleful Creature at 9:46 AM on April 17, 2012
Naw, Franco is more "Here is some melted G.I Joes on top of my abs and I am wearing a Marylin wig" which, whatever at least he's trying. This is just like ... pure concentrated delusion.
posted by The Whelk at 9:46 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 9:46 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
Yes, but James Franco would do it delightfully in all possible ways.
Yes.
posted by Fizz at 9:46 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Yes.
posted by Fizz at 9:46 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Part of me wants to tell him "don't quit your day job." Part of me fears that if I did, he WOULDN'T quit it.
posted by delfin at 9:47 AM on April 17, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by delfin at 9:47 AM on April 17, 2012 [4 favorites]
Holy shit that is some grade A middle school crap there. Seriously I would think that a 12-14 year old boy that thinks Chuck Norris jokes are really awesome did these.
I could almost see it being a send up of a the type of art someone would do at that age but if it's actually sincere it shows a remarkable lack of emotional depth which probably shouldn't be that surprising given the quality of the movies her's been in but I figured that was largely the result of being on the Summer Movie Blockbuster gravytrain rather than being a 12 year old trapped in the body of a twenty something.
posted by vuron at 9:47 AM on April 17, 2012
I could almost see it being a send up of a the type of art someone would do at that age but if it's actually sincere it shows a remarkable lack of emotional depth which probably shouldn't be that surprising given the quality of the movies her's been in but I figured that was largely the result of being on the Summer Movie Blockbuster gravytrain rather than being a 12 year old trapped in the body of a twenty something.
posted by vuron at 9:47 AM on April 17, 2012
I have to admit it, I heard the name "Shia LaBeouf" before and had a vision of a black woman. Just Googled when, while skimming, I thought "this doesn't seem like it was written by a black woman"... Shia LaBeouf turns out to be the evil opposite of his own ideal form.
posted by Meatbomb at 9:47 AM on April 17, 2012 [7 favorites]
posted by Meatbomb at 9:47 AM on April 17, 2012 [7 favorites]
People who have no art training ( or ...talent) always draw in the same bad way but not in the way children draw. I think a remember a few studies tracking eye movement for trained artists vs non artists and they moved around the figure and page very differently from each other.
posted by The Whelk at 9:49 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 9:49 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
Its something that a freshman in college would doodle while bored to tears in a three hour lecture.
How the hell does a person actually put this out as a something he/she expects to sell? I can't fully articulate how blown my mind is (assuming I'm not missing some hilarious joke about how its not actually being published or its not being sold for money or something).
posted by Slackermagee at 9:49 AM on April 17, 2012
How the hell does a person actually put this out as a something he/she expects to sell? I can't fully articulate how blown my mind is (assuming I'm not missing some hilarious joke about how its not actually being published or its not being sold for money or something).
posted by Slackermagee at 9:49 AM on April 17, 2012
Part of me admires him for having the balls to put this out there, knowing large chunks of the reception it will get will be bad. Part of me wishes he had the judgement to not put it out, knowing that.
...and part of me thinks that the Comics Alliance "review" has a lot of jackassery in it.
posted by mephron at 9:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
...and part of me thinks that the Comics Alliance "review" has a lot of jackassery in it.
posted by mephron at 9:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Yet another example of why Can != Should.
posted by mkultra at 9:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by mkultra at 9:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
maybe he's got a secret stash of Dunning–Kruger Concentrate on hand.
posted by The Whelk at 9:51 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 9:51 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
If I stare at these long enough, will I see a sailboat?
posted by haplesschild at 9:52 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by haplesschild at 9:52 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
mephron: "Part of me admires him for having the balls to put this out there, knowing large chunks of the reception it will get will be bad."
You underestimate the power of celebrity. When you're as famous as someone like Shia LaBeouf, there is no shortage of people telling you that everything you do is awesome and encouraging you to pursue every whim.
posted by mkultra at 9:53 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
You underestimate the power of celebrity. When you're as famous as someone like Shia LaBeouf, there is no shortage of people telling you that everything you do is awesome and encouraging you to pursue every whim.
posted by mkultra at 9:53 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
mkultra: yes, I know that - I have the feeling that's why Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, and Newt Gingrich exist, for example - but still, you have to hope some little bit inside him is saying that he needs to work on it a bit.
...then I remember Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull and I think I felt that hope die.
posted by mephron at 9:56 AM on April 17, 2012
...then I remember Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull and I think I felt that hope die.
posted by mephron at 9:56 AM on April 17, 2012
I predict in 10 years he creates the next Akira or Watchmen. Then won't we be collectively ashamed.
posted by hot_monster at 9:58 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by hot_monster at 9:58 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
I don't see why this is so bad. It's a guy selling his comics even though they are not very good. Some of those pages seem similar to gapingvoid.
Is it because he is rich and famous?
posted by Memo at 9:58 AM on April 17, 2012 [3 favorites]
Is it because he is rich and famous?
posted by Memo at 9:58 AM on April 17, 2012 [3 favorites]
You underestimate the power of celebrity. When you're as famous as someone like Shia LaBeouf, there is no shortage of people telling you that everything you do is awesome and encouraging you to pursue every whim.
Yeah, there's been a hell of a lot of really bad celeb artists... you really do need someone at your side (perhaps a friend from before you got famous) whispering in your ear 'no this is a bad move'
But then again apparently Manson said they were shit and he didn't listen.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:59 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Yeah, there's been a hell of a lot of really bad celeb artists... you really do need someone at your side (perhaps a friend from before you got famous) whispering in your ear 'no this is a bad move'
But then again apparently Manson said they were shit and he didn't listen.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:59 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Its something that a freshman in college would doodle while bored to tears in a three hour lecture.
How the hell does a person actually put this out as a something he/she expects to sell? I can't fully articulate how blown my mind is (assuming I'm not missing some hilarious joke about how its not actually being published or its not being sold for money or something).
Obviously the fact that he's famous is a factor in why anyone cares about this at all, but if you go to the Artist's Alley section of a Con like the one he was at, you'll see a lot of relatively low quality amateur stuff like this. It's mostly just normal people who have day jobs and aren't serious professional artists with a booth and some stuff for sale. I would say it would be similar to a famous actor playing guitar at an open mic night at some random bar, it might cause a stir but if they weren't that great of a guitar player they wouldn't exactly be out of place there. It's not as if LaBeouf is getting some big comics publisher to publish his amateur stuff instead of some actually great artists and writers who deserve it, he's just going to a place where normal people say "Hey, look at this stuff I made" and doing the same. Personally I think it's kind of neat that he did it, regardless of what he is like as a person or how good or bad his comics are.
posted by burnmp3s at 9:59 AM on April 17, 2012 [15 favorites]
How the hell does a person actually put this out as a something he/she expects to sell? I can't fully articulate how blown my mind is (assuming I'm not missing some hilarious joke about how its not actually being published or its not being sold for money or something).
Obviously the fact that he's famous is a factor in why anyone cares about this at all, but if you go to the Artist's Alley section of a Con like the one he was at, you'll see a lot of relatively low quality amateur stuff like this. It's mostly just normal people who have day jobs and aren't serious professional artists with a booth and some stuff for sale. I would say it would be similar to a famous actor playing guitar at an open mic night at some random bar, it might cause a stir but if they weren't that great of a guitar player they wouldn't exactly be out of place there. It's not as if LaBeouf is getting some big comics publisher to publish his amateur stuff instead of some actually great artists and writers who deserve it, he's just going to a place where normal people say "Hey, look at this stuff I made" and doing the same. Personally I think it's kind of neat that he did it, regardless of what he is like as a person or how good or bad his comics are.
posted by burnmp3s at 9:59 AM on April 17, 2012 [15 favorites]
Maybe celebrities of a certain statue should be issued professional Memento Moris to whisper in thier ear and remind them they to are mortal and fallible.
posted by The Whelk at 10:02 AM on April 17, 2012
posted by The Whelk at 10:02 AM on April 17, 2012
Yes, but James Franco would do it delightfully in all possible ways.
Clearly you've never seen The Ape, which makes these look like a work of genius.
posted by lesbiassparrow at 10:02 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Clearly you've never seen The Ape, which makes these look like a work of genius.
posted by lesbiassparrow at 10:02 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
I think I will chose to interpret this as genius, satiring celebrity ego projects. The interview on that MTV page certainly does little to dispel the notion. Shia LeBeouf is a comedic genius.
posted by Edogy at 10:03 AM on April 17, 2012
posted by Edogy at 10:03 AM on April 17, 2012
I held one of these in my hands Saturday night, and what struck me immediately was the stunning difference between the book's beautiful paper and printing and the lack of quality of the drawing and writing. It was kind of like putting a Beanie Baby on a pedestal in the Louvre.
posted by MegoSteve at 10:06 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by MegoSteve at 10:06 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
On the other hand you have Chad Michael Murray, a similarly less-than-Olivier-like actor to say the very least, and his recently released graphic novel "Everlast," which is leagues above this drivel.
posted by elizardbits at 10:06 AM on April 17, 2012
posted by elizardbits at 10:06 AM on April 17, 2012
Did you read that interview? I freaking love this guy now! He comes across as a huge, nerdy comic fan, and he totally gets the idea of comic conventions and the artist alley at conventions.
Yeah, he can't really draw(no comment on the writing, it might be fine in context), but he's hawking his stapled, xeroxed minicomics at Artist Alley with his girlfriend, and I don't care whether he's doing it ironically, I can't pile on the dude for that gesture of earnestness.
posted by sawdustbear at 10:07 AM on April 17, 2012 [9 favorites]
Yeah, he can't really draw(no comment on the writing, it might be fine in context), but he's hawking his stapled, xeroxed minicomics at Artist Alley with his girlfriend, and I don't care whether he's doing it ironically, I can't pile on the dude for that gesture of earnestness.
posted by sawdustbear at 10:07 AM on April 17, 2012 [9 favorites]
Maybe celebrities of a certain statue should be issued professional Memento Moris to whisper in thier ear and remind them they to are mortal and fallible.
posted by The Whelk at 10:02 AM on April 17 [+] [!]
I love this idea. I would sign up for this job in a microsecond.
Also "Memento Morris" sounds like the name of an old-timey pugilist.
posted by Kitty Stardust at 10:10 AM on April 17, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 10:02 AM on April 17 [+] [!]
I love this idea. I would sign up for this job in a microsecond.
Also "Memento Morris" sounds like the name of an old-timey pugilist.
posted by Kitty Stardust at 10:10 AM on April 17, 2012 [3 favorites]
This LeBeouf fellow seems unencumbered by self-doubt.
posted by basicchannel at 10:17 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by basicchannel at 10:17 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Also "Memento Morris" sounds like the name of an old-timey pugilist.
It sounded kind of like a Bugsy Siegel-esque gangster to me, altho I guess that would be Memento Moishe.
posted by elizardbits at 10:30 AM on April 17, 2012
It sounded kind of like a Bugsy Siegel-esque gangster to me, altho I guess that would be Memento Moishe.
posted by elizardbits at 10:30 AM on April 17, 2012
Oh god, why isn't there a batman villain who only kills the prideful and haughty called Momento Morris?
posted by The Whelk at 10:32 AM on April 17, 2012 [5 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 10:32 AM on April 17, 2012 [5 favorites]
I have to admit it, I heard the name "Shia LaBeouf" before and had a vision of a black woman.
Whereas I always have a vision of a rockabilly guitarist.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 10:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Whereas I always have a vision of a rockabilly guitarist.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 10:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Raise your hand if you thought this was about Sabrina LaBeauf.
You're old.
posted by desjardins at 10:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
You're old.
posted by desjardins at 10:50 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
People who try and make things are terrible. They should just sit in a corner somewhere and feel bad for trying anything, especially if that thing is in public, and if the person is any kind of famous.
Let us shame them, together.
posted by curious nu at 10:52 AM on April 17, 2012 [11 favorites]
Let us shame them, together.
posted by curious nu at 10:52 AM on April 17, 2012 [11 favorites]
Well, RTFA. Now I'm having flashbacks to a middle-school "boyfriend" (read: dork in my art class who held my hand once and gave me a bracelet made out of safety pins) who made his own comic-book about a guy called "Snake"; an escaped felon who rode a motorcycle and killed people for no reason. That comic book provided my brother and I a rich mine of mockery for decades.
The art, lettering and plots in LeBeouf's work all seem very much like something a 13-year-old would dream up. Also surprised at the restraint in the "sex-scene" panel. Perhaps that is a function of inability to draw sufficiently j.o.-worthy bewbs.
posted by Kitty Stardust at 10:57 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
The art, lettering and plots in LeBeouf's work all seem very much like something a 13-year-old would dream up. Also surprised at the restraint in the "sex-scene" panel. Perhaps that is a function of inability to draw sufficiently j.o.-worthy bewbs.
posted by Kitty Stardust at 10:57 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Transformers is deeper than you give it credit. The title is a double entendre that embodies both the physical transformation of the robots, and the emotional transformation of Shia's character as he learns to look outside his own shallow interests (cars, winning Meghan Fox's heart, convincing his parents he is not masturbating), and learns to be concerned for the empty husks created by a materialist society (symbolized by the urban fight scene between Megatron and Optimus Prime where people are literally betrayed by their own consumer pursuits).
posted by mccarty.tim at 11:00 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by mccarty.tim at 11:00 AM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
People who try and make things are terrible. They should just sit in a corner somewhere and feel bad for trying anything, especially if that thing is in public, and if the person is any kind of famous.
Especially if they happen to be poets. Poets bore me. They are shits. Snails. Snippets of dust in a cheap wind.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 11:01 AM on April 17, 2012 [5 favorites]
Especially if they happen to be poets. Poets bore me. They are shits. Snails. Snippets of dust in a cheap wind.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 11:01 AM on April 17, 2012 [5 favorites]
I did fall asleep until the urban fight scene, tbh...
posted by mccarty.tim at 11:01 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by mccarty.tim at 11:01 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
I want to complain about this thread, to say sure there is enough good art in this world that it's easy to avoid the bad art. But I suppose instead of curing the darkness I should light a match.
Here are some other artists that were at the Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo in Artist's Alley. Here are a few I especially like:
Tofu Squirrel
Gabriel Hardman
Eric Canete
And the ever-incredible Bill Sienkiewicz
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 11:01 AM on April 17, 2012
Here are some other artists that were at the Chicago Comic and Entertainment Expo in Artist's Alley. Here are a few I especially like:
Tofu Squirrel
Gabriel Hardman
Eric Canete
And the ever-incredible Bill Sienkiewicz
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 11:01 AM on April 17, 2012
I cure darkness mostly in a smokehouse. Mmm, hickory!
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 11:04 AM on April 17, 2012
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 11:04 AM on April 17, 2012
Did he draw these after that pickup truck crushed his hand? In that case — impressive!
posted by Nomyte at 11:06 AM on April 17, 2012
posted by Nomyte at 11:06 AM on April 17, 2012
Anyone else think "Napoleon Dynamite"?
posted by like_neon at 11:07 AM on April 17, 2012 [8 favorites]
posted by like_neon at 11:07 AM on April 17, 2012 [8 favorites]
Perhaps that is a function of inability to draw sufficiently j.o.-worthy bewbs.
J. O. Worthy would be a great sockpuppet.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 11:15 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
J. O. Worthy would be a great sockpuppet.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 11:15 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Yes, that sock.
posted by Mister Moofoo at 11:15 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Mister Moofoo at 11:15 AM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Memo: I don't see why this is so bad. It's a guy selling his comics even though they are not very good. Some of those pages seem similar to gapingvoid.
Trust me-- they are not similar to gapingvoid.
posted by herbplarfegan at 11:53 AM on April 17, 2012
Trust me-- they are not similar to gapingvoid.
posted by herbplarfegan at 11:53 AM on April 17, 2012
I'm not really of a fan of his movie work, and his comics don't look very good, but after reading the MTV interview linked above, I actually think this is kind of cool, since he's not just milking Artist's Alley in order to drum up publicity for some lame movie project.
However, this made my blood run a bit cold: "I could meet Brian K. Vaughan at a Y The Last Man meeting, or I could just meet Brian K. Vaughan at his table, picking up stickers."
For fuck's sake, no. Please don't be in that movie.
posted by whir at 11:58 AM on April 17, 2012
However, this made my blood run a bit cold: "I could meet Brian K. Vaughan at a Y The Last Man meeting, or I could just meet Brian K. Vaughan at his table, picking up stickers."
For fuck's sake, no. Please don't be in that movie.
posted by whir at 11:58 AM on April 17, 2012
People who try and make things are terrible. They should just sit in a corner somewhere and feel bad for trying anything, especially if that thing is in public, and if the person is any kind of famous.
Let us shame them, together.
Fine by me.
posted by Edison Carter at 12:07 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Let us shame them, together.
Fine by me.
posted by Edison Carter at 12:07 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
I don't know, whir, Shia would not be a terrible fit for Y: The Last Man. It would be a pretty fair typecast. Yorick is kind of a dope. Mind, he's a dope with depth, and pain, and he's a survivor to some extent, but he has that essential dopeyness (in a usually likable way, too) that Shia could probably pull off.
posted by Doleful Creature at 12:07 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Doleful Creature at 12:07 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Can someone please set "Shia LaBeouf has self-published a comic" to the tune of "matthewchen is spamming"?
posted by Beardman at 12:16 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by Beardman at 12:16 PM on April 17, 2012
Shia LaBrainwash
posted by munchingzombie at 12:29 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by munchingzombie at 12:29 PM on April 17, 2012
Can someone please set "Shia LaBeouf has self-published a comic" to the tune of "matthewchen is spamming"?
Oh man I now have an ear worm for a song that doesn't exist -
/Shia LaBeouf has self-published a comic
Shia LaBeouf is writing down his thoughts
*clap clap*
Shia LaBeouf has self-published a comic
Even though he ought to not
*clap clap*
/
posted by The Whelk at 12:42 PM on April 17, 2012
Oh man I now have an ear worm for a song that doesn't exist -
/Shia LaBeouf has self-published a comic
Shia LaBeouf is writing down his thoughts
*clap clap*
Shia LaBeouf has self-published a comic
Even though he ought to not
*clap clap*
/
posted by The Whelk at 12:42 PM on April 17, 2012
It's always good to know -- and I mean this sincerely -- that just because a person is really good at one thing doesn't mean they're good at all things. It helps us remember that just because we're not good at one thing doesn't mean we won't turn out to be really good at something else.
posted by davejay at 12:42 PM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by davejay at 12:42 PM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
Okay, I read the comic con interview and regret my snark now. I had read some previous interviews that had me convinced ... that I wasn't a fan, let's put it that way. So I come in here and snark and sure, the comics look questionable, but he comes across as well-meaning and doesn't deserve the treatment I gave him.
posted by neuromodulator at 12:53 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by neuromodulator at 12:53 PM on April 17, 2012
I don't know, whir, Shia would not be a terrible fit for Y: The Last Man. It would be a pretty fair typecast. Yorick is kind of a dope. Mind, he's a dope with depth, and pain, and he's a survivor to some extent, but he has that essential dopeyness (in a usually likable way, too) that Shia could probably pull off.
posted by Doleful Creature at 12:07 PM on April 17 [+] [!]
Aww, heeeeelll naw!
Someone else! Someone else!
posted by Kitty Stardust at 1:30 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by Doleful Creature at 12:07 PM on April 17 [+] [!]
Aww, heeeeelll naw!
Someone else! Someone else!
posted by Kitty Stardust at 1:30 PM on April 17, 2012
Shia would be good as Yorick in a Y: The Last Man movie. But you know what? You're going to have to put a fucking decapitated horse head in my bed before I cast him.
posted by jabberjaw at 1:32 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by jabberjaw at 1:32 PM on April 17, 2012
Wow. This is bad.
posted by New England Cultist at 1:39 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by New England Cultist at 1:39 PM on April 17, 2012
I LIKE the artwork on these. Yeah, after I read all your comments I went back and looked at them with the assumption they were bad, and they did look bad. So I see what you mean. But before that I thought they were charming.
Also, my 20-year-old sister went to a signing he did when she was like 12, and his signature was exactly like that. Maybe he hasn't changed it since he got famous as a little boy.
posted by two or three cars parked under the stars at 1:40 PM on April 17, 2012
Also, my 20-year-old sister went to a signing he did when she was like 12, and his signature was exactly like that. Maybe he hasn't changed it since he got famous as a little boy.
posted by two or three cars parked under the stars at 1:40 PM on April 17, 2012
Screw his art, the guy can't even spell his name properly. It should be LaBoeuf, not LaBeouf.
Boeuf=bœf
Beouf=Beeyouf
posted by dunkadunc at 2:13 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Boeuf=bœf
Beouf=Beeyouf
posted by dunkadunc at 2:13 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Metafilter: a function of inability to draw sufficiently j.o.-worthy bewbs.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:23 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by MCMikeNamara at 2:23 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
WHAT THE FUCK
posted by The ____ of Justice at 2:40 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by The ____ of Justice at 2:40 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
just because a person is really good at one thing doesn't mean they're good at all things.
What's the thing Shia is good at?
posted by ShutterBun at 2:54 PM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
What's the thing Shia is good at?
posted by ShutterBun at 2:54 PM on April 17, 2012 [2 favorites]
I can only imagine he's Joaquining the comics world at large, which is weird because no one pays that much attention to comics unless they are being made into movies and also because Joaquining himself doesn't appear to have done Joaquin Phoenix any favors.
And yes, as is true of all endeavors, now and until the end of time itself, James Franco did it better.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 3:06 PM on April 17, 2012
And yes, as is true of all endeavors, now and until the end of time itself, James Franco did it better.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 3:06 PM on April 17, 2012
LaBeouf is Cajun. Complaining they spell their French differently is like complaining that we don't use these spellings: aeroplane, colour, aluminium.
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 3:23 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Bunny Ultramod at 3:23 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Yeah, I’ve got a draft of the script for this. Check it.
“MY BRAIN”
By Shia Labeouf
PAGE 1
This needs to be a big splash, a single page, to grip the reader and pull them immediately into the story. I’m sure you’ve read Alan Mooore’s ‘The Killing Joke’, I think it was drawn by Steve Dillon, anyway there’s a panel in there where the Joker has just come out of the toxic waste and he’s going loopy-crazy, big crazy smile on his face and his hands pulling at his hair and behind him the air is just thick with “HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA”’s. Well flattery is the sincerest form of wit so I want this splash page to be modelled exactly on that panel from ‘The Killing Joke’, except instead of the Joker coming out of the toxic waste, it’s SHIA coming out of the shower, and he is late for an awards ceremony hosted by The American On-Screen Confusion Guild, for his and Michael Bay’s work on ‘Transformers’, ‘Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen’, and ‘Transformers: Dark of the Moon’.
(You can use any stock photography to get an idea of what SHIA looks like – just Google it or whatevs.)
SHIA: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
SFX (behind me): NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (repeated until panel is full)
PAGE 2
Four panels, arranged chronologically.
After the drama of the first page, we must flash backwards to the time I spent on the set of ‘Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull’.
Panel 1
SHIA is standing in a JUNGLE with HARRISON FORD and GEORGE LUCAS. SHIA is talking animatedly to them both. It is important that HARRISON and GEORGE not look like caricatures, so HARRISON (in his Indy gear) should be modelled on a DEFLATED TESTICLE (post-coital), and GEORGE (in a fishing cap and big sunglasses) should be modelled on a DISTENDED TESTICLE (pre-coital/elephantiasis).
SHIA: I think there should be GIANT ANTS...
PAGE 2 cont. over…
posted by tumid dahlia at 3:58 PM on April 17, 2012
“MY BRAIN”
By Shia Labeouf
PAGE 1
This needs to be a big splash, a single page, to grip the reader and pull them immediately into the story. I’m sure you’ve read Alan Mooore’s ‘The Killing Joke’, I think it was drawn by Steve Dillon, anyway there’s a panel in there where the Joker has just come out of the toxic waste and he’s going loopy-crazy, big crazy smile on his face and his hands pulling at his hair and behind him the air is just thick with “HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA”’s. Well flattery is the sincerest form of wit so I want this splash page to be modelled exactly on that panel from ‘The Killing Joke’, except instead of the Joker coming out of the toxic waste, it’s SHIA coming out of the shower, and he is late for an awards ceremony hosted by The American On-Screen Confusion Guild, for his and Michael Bay’s work on ‘Transformers’, ‘Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen’, and ‘Transformers: Dark of the Moon’.
(You can use any stock photography to get an idea of what SHIA looks like – just Google it or whatevs.)
SHIA: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
SFX (behind me): NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (repeated until panel is full)
PAGE 2
Four panels, arranged chronologically.
After the drama of the first page, we must flash backwards to the time I spent on the set of ‘Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull’.
Panel 1
SHIA is standing in a JUNGLE with HARRISON FORD and GEORGE LUCAS. SHIA is talking animatedly to them both. It is important that HARRISON and GEORGE not look like caricatures, so HARRISON (in his Indy gear) should be modelled on a DEFLATED TESTICLE (post-coital), and GEORGE (in a fishing cap and big sunglasses) should be modelled on a DISTENDED TESTICLE (pre-coital/elephantiasis).
SHIA: I think there should be GIANT ANTS...
PAGE 2 cont. over…
posted by tumid dahlia at 3:58 PM on April 17, 2012
i'm sure it's all very ironic
posted by This, of course, alludes to you at 5:10 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by This, of course, alludes to you at 5:10 PM on April 17, 2012
Every artist has 10000 pieces of crap inside them before they create something of worth. 1 down, 9999 to go, Shia. I'm pulling for you!
posted by Renoroc at 5:20 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Renoroc at 5:20 PM on April 17, 2012 [1 favorite]
Man I wish I could get articles this prominent about MY comics. But I'm just some lady who spent most of her life learning to draw and has never been on TV or movies. Unless you count when I was like six and was, I think, in the studio audience for the Saturday hour of Popeye cartoons sponsored by Popeye's Chicken. No, I don't think that counts for crossover promotion.
Maybe I need to just spam some press releases.
Ain't gonna mock the art. Dude's a beginner. I'd point him to John K's drawing lessons if he came to a forum I hang out in and asked for crit, same as anyone else at that level.
posted by egypturnash at 6:43 PM on April 17, 2012
Maybe I need to just spam some press releases.
Ain't gonna mock the art. Dude's a beginner. I'd point him to John K's drawing lessons if he came to a forum I hang out in and asked for crit, same as anyone else at that level.
posted by egypturnash at 6:43 PM on April 17, 2012
Also, you know, the article's slamming it for being $20. But you know what? That's about what any full-color amateur comic is gonna cost. Especially if it's tiny print-on-demand runs. You don't start to get breaks that let you get anywhere near affordable prices that let a bookstore sell it for cover price and make a decent profit over what you have to sell it to them at until you're making at least like 5-600 copies. I'm putting together an anthology this year and think the combined fanbases of the folks involved should be able to let us hit that, but I doubt I could do it alone.
So he's approaching it like a rank beginner instead of MOVIE STAR!!! and, you know, maybe at means he's gonna keep at it. If this is his passion than I wish him the best of luck in getting and listening to good critique. Hell, he's been in huge movies, I figure if he downscales his life for a few years he could probably afford to do NOTHING but work on comics if he wanted to, and he WILL get better if he does.
posted by egypturnash at 7:10 PM on April 17, 2012
So he's approaching it like a rank beginner instead of MOVIE STAR!!! and, you know, maybe at means he's gonna keep at it. If this is his passion than I wish him the best of luck in getting and listening to good critique. Hell, he's been in huge movies, I figure if he downscales his life for a few years he could probably afford to do NOTHING but work on comics if he wanted to, and he WILL get better if he does.
posted by egypturnash at 7:10 PM on April 17, 2012
speaking as someone who would like to learn to animate (better), do you have anyone other than john K to recommend?
posted by This, of course, alludes to you at 7:19 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by This, of course, alludes to you at 7:19 PM on April 17, 2012
Not offhand, no. I am sure there are lotsa great things out there on the net to learn from; I learnt most of what I know about the craft from the Blair book, White's "Animator's Workbook", animation school, and The Cruel Tutelage Of John K.
The thing to do is to just look at his list of awesome exercises and ignore the fact that he is a crotchety old dude who basically hates everything made after 1950. As soon as he starts making pronouncements about "what kind of colors are good" or "what sorts of animated stories are good", take them with a few salt mines, and add "It is my opinion that..." to every statement he makes about what cartoons "should" or "should not" be.
Ignore that and he will teach you AWESOME things about how to draw for animation, and the process. But always remember he is a bitter sonofabitch who has some major issues with the rest of the animation industry - justified to no small extent on both sides.
Also just start doing it more, start hanging out places like loopdeloop or 11secondclub to give yourself regular reasons to do small, unambitious projects you have some hope of actually finishing instead of massive personal projects that linger unfinished for ages...
(I should take that last paragraph's advice myself, when I actually get through with one of the major side projects I have going right now.)
posted by egypturnash at 8:54 PM on April 17, 2012 [4 favorites]
The thing to do is to just look at his list of awesome exercises and ignore the fact that he is a crotchety old dude who basically hates everything made after 1950. As soon as he starts making pronouncements about "what kind of colors are good" or "what sorts of animated stories are good", take them with a few salt mines, and add "It is my opinion that..." to every statement he makes about what cartoons "should" or "should not" be.
Ignore that and he will teach you AWESOME things about how to draw for animation, and the process. But always remember he is a bitter sonofabitch who has some major issues with the rest of the animation industry - justified to no small extent on both sides.
Also just start doing it more, start hanging out places like loopdeloop or 11secondclub to give yourself regular reasons to do small, unambitious projects you have some hope of actually finishing instead of massive personal projects that linger unfinished for ages...
(I should take that last paragraph's advice myself, when I actually get through with one of the major side projects I have going right now.)
posted by egypturnash at 8:54 PM on April 17, 2012 [4 favorites]
Screw you guys, I like the drawing on the "lets fucking party" page.
posted by BurnChao at 11:03 PM on April 17, 2012
posted by BurnChao at 11:03 PM on April 17, 2012
Screw his art, the guy can't even spell his name properly. It should be LaBoeuf, not LaBeouf.
LeBoeuf, even! "Boeuf" is masculine.
posted by Metroid Baby at 8:13 AM on April 18, 2012 [1 favorite]
LeBoeuf, even! "Boeuf" is masculine.
posted by Metroid Baby at 8:13 AM on April 18, 2012 [1 favorite]
On the other hand Shia's efforts are not way near as bad as Hugh Laurie's blues album... I still get flashbacks from hearing that.
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:48 AM on April 18, 2012
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 9:48 AM on April 18, 2012
Metroid Baby: "LeBoeuf, even! "Boeuf" is masculine."
It really smacks of being a made-up name.
posted by dunkadunc at 10:17 AM on April 18, 2012
It really smacks of being a made-up name.
posted by dunkadunc at 10:17 AM on April 18, 2012
What's the thing Shia is good at?
Tricking casting directors, apparently.
posted by ymgve at 3:45 PM on April 18, 2012 [2 favorites]
Tricking casting directors, apparently.
posted by ymgve at 3:45 PM on April 18, 2012 [2 favorites]
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