"I like almost all styles of music. I believe that there is music for every mood, every occasion. All except for country music."
May 3, 2012 8:16 PM Subscribe
Name a style of music you dislike and Reddit's hivemind will try to change your mind. Or most probably it'll confirm that your musical tastes are not that easy to change.
I feel like I should listen to those Serbian turbofolk links but I'm afraid to.
posted by escabeche at 8:28 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by escabeche at 8:28 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
Ambient glockenspiel.
posted by twoleftfeet at 8:29 PM on May 3, 2012
posted by twoleftfeet at 8:29 PM on May 3, 2012
FUCKING SERBIAN TURBOFOLK YEAH.
posted by idiopath at 8:30 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by idiopath at 8:30 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
Yeah, that Reddit thread is great, even if only for the chance that I got to read the comment:
"Balkan Beatbox are awesome. I saw them live by accident once by stumbling into a field where they were playing a concert."
posted by FirstMateKate at 8:32 PM on May 3, 2012 [11 favorites]
"Balkan Beatbox are awesome. I saw them live by accident once by stumbling into a field where they were playing a concert."
posted by FirstMateKate at 8:32 PM on May 3, 2012 [11 favorites]
ahem, serbian turbo folk . Yeah .
Mind. Blown.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 8:36 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
Mind. Blown.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 8:36 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
Why don't we just add a section to the site called MetaReddit. I'm sure pb could skin something up.
posted by KokuRyu at 8:39 PM on May 3, 2012 [4 favorites]
posted by KokuRyu at 8:39 PM on May 3, 2012 [4 favorites]
Why don't we just add a section to the site called MetaReddit. I'm sure pb could skin something up.
Yea but I would never click on the MetaReddit section and I would never have seen the link in the first comment of this thread and that would be a travesty.
posted by holdkris99 at 8:43 PM on May 3, 2012 [3 favorites]
Yea but I would never click on the MetaReddit section and I would never have seen the link in the first comment of this thread and that would be a travesty.
posted by holdkris99 at 8:43 PM on May 3, 2012 [3 favorites]
mafikizolo - kwela
don't know if it's relevant - but this has been rockin' my world for a few weeks
posted by pyramid termite at 8:44 PM on May 3, 2012 [13 favorites]
don't know if it's relevant - but this has been rockin' my world for a few weeks
posted by pyramid termite at 8:44 PM on May 3, 2012 [13 favorites]
They can't have a hivemind. They can have a squeezybearmind. Cause we're cooler. So there.
posted by jph at 8:48 PM on May 3, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by jph at 8:48 PM on May 3, 2012 [3 favorites]
That link led to this, and everything was alright for a moment.
posted by dazed_one at 8:51 PM on May 3, 2012 [5 favorites]
posted by dazed_one at 8:51 PM on May 3, 2012 [5 favorites]
We've had at least two posts here on Metafilter about Serbian Turbo Folk.
posted by koeselitz at 8:52 PM on May 3, 2012
posted by koeselitz at 8:52 PM on May 3, 2012
Serbian turbo-folk has some real right wing political connections. Although it does sound similar to Bulgarian chalga and other neo-folk music of the Balkans, it is connected to the Milosovec era of Serbian history.
posted by Isadorady at 8:53 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Isadorady at 8:53 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
I don't like country music much either but I'll be damned if Blue Rodeo isn't an awesome band.
posted by Hoopo at 9:01 PM on May 3, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by Hoopo at 9:01 PM on May 3, 2012 [3 favorites]
Best Polka I think I've ever heard.
posted by Mister Fabulous at 9:04 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by Mister Fabulous at 9:04 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
Worth reading that thread to learn that there is a Japanese band named "Ogre You Asshole".
Revenge of the Nerds is universal, man.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:04 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
Revenge of the Nerds is universal, man.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:04 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
Wait. Reddit's what?
posted by Mike Mongo at 9:05 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Mike Mongo at 9:05 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
Style of music? I've never understood how someone someone could not like a whole style of music. OK, that's a lie, I was young and dumb once and used to say I liked everything but Opera and Jazz. You can probably guess what I spend a lot of time listening to now.
You don't need to be convinced to like a style of music, just listen to some, be wild and crazy.
posted by bongo_x at 9:11 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
You don't need to be convinced to like a style of music, just listen to some, be wild and crazy.
posted by bongo_x at 9:11 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
That link led to this , and everything was alright for a moment.
hmmm - i can only follow up with this sensitive rendition of a joan baez song
posted by pyramid termite at 9:13 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
hmmm - i can only follow up with this sensitive rendition of a joan baez song
posted by pyramid termite at 9:13 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
This whole thread is totally worth it for Inspector.Gadget's link. I laughed so hard I gave myself a headache.
posted by Space Kitty at 9:31 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by Space Kitty at 9:31 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
Thanks to Inspector.Gadget, I can now describe going to the bathroom as having to let the Autobots Roll Out.
posted by KingEdRa at 9:46 PM on May 3, 2012 [8 favorites]
posted by KingEdRa at 9:46 PM on May 3, 2012 [8 favorites]
Ambient glockenspiel sounds like it would be quite cool, but what i really want is eerie ambient harpsichord or something of the sort.
posted by palbo at 10:09 PM on May 3, 2012
posted by palbo at 10:09 PM on May 3, 2012
Can someone point Henry Rollins at that thread?
posted by PeterMcDermott at 10:26 PM on May 3, 2012
posted by PeterMcDermott at 10:26 PM on May 3, 2012
Serbian Turbo Folk? If someone hasn't released an album called "Never Mind the Balkans" yet, someone really should. Probably.
posted by Decani at 10:26 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by Decani at 10:26 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
I thought Serbian Turbo-Folk was related to Szeki Kurva (but it's been a few years since I heard it) and I guess it's not, but...
Some of y'all might dig it. I guess it's Hungarian.
posted by symbioid at 10:29 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
Some of y'all might dig it. I guess it's Hungarian.
posted by symbioid at 10:29 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
If Netbros excellent post can't make me like smooth jazz I'm not sure Reddit can do anything, but maybe they can do something about gangsta rap and some of the pop subgenres.
posted by BrotherCaine at 10:39 PM on May 3, 2012
posted by BrotherCaine at 10:39 PM on May 3, 2012
I am sad that nobody mentioned progrock because I would totally suggest King Crimson's album "Discipline".
Also, yeah, holy shit Serbian turbo folk is WTF.
posted by egypturnash at 10:42 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
Also, yeah, holy shit Serbian turbo folk is WTF.
posted by egypturnash at 10:42 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
Considering the fact that the inventor of Turbo Folk - Rambo Amadeus - is performing at Eurovision this year, I wonder if maybe that genre should be considered as a little closer to the mainstream than some Redditors would like to imply.
posted by koeselitz at 10:43 PM on May 3, 2012
posted by koeselitz at 10:43 PM on May 3, 2012
Well, and actually, look – not to play website vs website, but if you're interested in the idea of Turbo Folk and would like to know more, you're better off abandoning Reddit and checking out this Metafilter post by Kattullus from a while back, and in particular watching this very awesome documentary of sorts. It will introduce you to Rambo Amadeus, Turbo Folk, Turbo Sculpture, and a very interesting social movement that is in its own way pretty important in the context of European civilization at the turn of the 1990s.
And anyway, "Turbo Folk" is not really a genre at all; it's an invention, a platform designed by one man for his music and his art. Calling it a genre is like calling "Frank Zappa" a genre; well, yeah, he is, but not really in the way that "genre" makes it sound. And Rambo Amadeus actually has a lot in common with Frank Zappa, although I would say that Rambo Amadeus is more interested in the sociopolitical implications of his music than Zappa ever was.
DONT HAPPY BE WORRY
posted by koeselitz at 10:53 PM on May 3, 2012 [8 favorites]
And anyway, "Turbo Folk" is not really a genre at all; it's an invention, a platform designed by one man for his music and his art. Calling it a genre is like calling "Frank Zappa" a genre; well, yeah, he is, but not really in the way that "genre" makes it sound. And Rambo Amadeus actually has a lot in common with Frank Zappa, although I would say that Rambo Amadeus is more interested in the sociopolitical implications of his music than Zappa ever was.
DONT HAPPY BE WORRY
posted by koeselitz at 10:53 PM on May 3, 2012 [8 favorites]
One last thing: really Turbo Folk is not originally Serbian; it's Montenegran.
posted by koeselitz at 10:57 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by koeselitz at 10:57 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
And anyway, "Turbo Folk" is not really a genre at all
Thanks, I was just about to ask what makes "serbian turbo folk" a thing considering how diverse the linked songs were. The Gramatik tracks strike me as hip hop, a couple others just sound like 90s dance music, only with occasional samples of instruments you wouldn't hear much in North America. A lot of it basically struck me as familiar kinds of music with vocals in a language I don't know as the only unifying element. Is it the lyrical content?
posted by Hoopo at 11:11 PM on May 3, 2012
Thanks, I was just about to ask what makes "serbian turbo folk" a thing considering how diverse the linked songs were. The Gramatik tracks strike me as hip hop, a couple others just sound like 90s dance music, only with occasional samples of instruments you wouldn't hear much in North America. A lot of it basically struck me as familiar kinds of music with vocals in a language I don't know as the only unifying element. Is it the lyrical content?
posted by Hoopo at 11:11 PM on May 3, 2012
I intensely dislike rap with alternating high pitched female voice and deep male voice.
These raps are invariably about how silly the girl is, while the man is all serious and smart, gently explaining the way things are to the foolish woman.
Stop it!!
posted by uswestcool at 11:45 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
These raps are invariably about how silly the girl is, while the man is all serious and smart, gently explaining the way things are to the foolish woman.
Stop it!!
posted by uswestcool at 11:45 PM on May 3, 2012 [1 favorite]
koeselitz's link is doubly relevant seeing as DON'T HAPPY BE WORRY is also Reddit's corporate motto.
posted by JLovebomb at 11:48 PM on May 3, 2012
posted by JLovebomb at 11:48 PM on May 3, 2012
On the subject of stylized serbian folk music...
posted by uswestcool at 11:51 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by uswestcool at 11:51 PM on May 3, 2012 [2 favorites]
Sorry to derail from the turbofolk discussion, but this topic put a little bee in my bonnet...
I suspect for many genres/styles this has so much to do with taste of the listener that it's very difficult to convey in a universal way why something is appealing, but if you really want to convince someone that a particular type of music is worth considering, you've got to craft a narrative.
Some styles may be so niche that it's not really possible to ramp the listener up, but on the whole I think this is possible. Take, for example, the first posting about "avant-garde classical". Yes this is a type of music that many people can't easily grok, and it's going to take more than just a few examples of good pieces to get a willing person in the right place to enjoy it.
You have to really get at the heart of it: the fundamental misunderstanding of the term "avant-garde classical", which is a pretty ambiguous term. It could mean many things, and ends up encompassing a whole lot of subtypes or disciplines (much like metal, or country, or rock). The Wikipedia entry on "avant-garde music" lists three possible definitions: either music that is "ahead of its time...containing innovative elements or fusing different genres" or "historically speaking...post-1945 tendencies of a modernist style in several genres of art music", or even more specifically "serial music".
As for a useful definition, I would just go with "art music that doesn't fit well into the traditional forms, rules and expectations of Western European concert music as it was composed and performed before World War I, give or take a few outliers."
As an example of "proto" avant-grade music, I would probably cite the Impressionist composers – Debussy, Ravel, Satie, Boulanger, Scriabin, and post a link to something from Debussy for listening, perhaps the second movement from La mer, explaining its use of whole tone scales, lack of a centralizing key, lack of "classical" structure and motifs. I'd probably mention that he was reportedly inspired by hearing a Javanese Gamelan at the Paris World's Fair in 1889 (wiki link), and how that totally fits with the concept of music that was "ahead of its time" and "fusing different genres".
Next up would be Charles Ives, early 20th century American composer known for his atonal style. His Symphony No. 3 is a good example I think of early avant-garde music that contains many elements of atonality, complex rhythms, and fusions of other genres (like camp songs). And it's pretty listenable to boot.
Then I'd drop a link to Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, which premiered in Paris in 1914, just over a year before WWI started. Another piece way ahead of its time, in many ways, including the set design, costuming and choreography of the ballet.
And that's all stuff that was happening before the traditional, historical definition of "avant-garde music" began. The more accepted historical period began with Arnold Schoenberg and the Second Viennese School.
Schoenberg developed twelve-tone serialism, which was an entirely new way of composing music, more rigidly mathematical and symmetrical than the previous 18th century harmonic tradition. It dominated the avant-garde scene for quite some time, and its influence crossed over into film composition, most notably in horror films such as the classic Hammer Films Curse of the Werewolf.
Now of course not everybody used serialism going forward. But what Schoenberg and his protégés did was open up the idea that music could be completely redone, re-contextualized in any number of ways. So you get people like Harry Partch, who not only created his own compositional rules but also his own instruments. Here's his piece Exordium, which I quite like.
At this point we need to recognize something. Avant-garde music is fundamentally about experimentation. It's about not just thinking outside of the box, but constructing entirely new box out material not traditionally use to make boxes, and the finished box doesn't really look like a box at all. And then you light the box on fire and record the crackle of the flames.
John Cage did a lot of stuff like that. Here's one of his pieces, Sonata II for prepared piano.
Let's not forget Olivier Messiaen's experimentation with Birdsong. Great stuff.
Steve Reich did a lot of experimenting too, in the 1960s he played around with reel-to-reel tape looping. Here's Johnny Greenwood of Radiohead fame playing his looping piece Electric Counterpoint.
Reich is actually really great place to explore, as he's both respectably 'avant-garde' and pretty accessible overall. Here's one of my favorites of his, Reed Phase, from his 'phase' series which is closely related to the tape looping stuff but involves two or more live musicians working to achieve the same effect.
Cage, Reich, Glass, and that's all fine. Glass is a great way to get someone into avant-garde music too. I might start a minor flame-war by asserting that Glass is an avant-garde composer, but he absolutely is. He's a minimalist, which totally its own technique, with its own set of rules and disciplines. Here's one of my favorite Glass pieces, from the finale of Koyaanisqatsi.
There's so much more to explore, I haven't even lightly bruised the surface of it. There's musiqué concrete, Fluxus, and electronic music, for some examples. That's really going down the rabbit hole.
...and in the end it all comes down to taste, but at least with 'avant-garde' music, and indeed with a lot of art music, there's often some context or discipline that if you understand it, will take you a long way towards actually enjoying the music.
But...well...remember how wikipedia said that avant-garde music is all about 'innovative elements' and 'fusing genres'. If I had to pick one piece that exemplifies this, and that I feel might hook someone in, it would have to use Kronos Quartet, performing their interpretation of Jimi Hendrix's Foxy Lady.
posted by Doleful Creature at 11:59 PM on May 3, 2012 [30 favorites]
I suspect for many genres/styles this has so much to do with taste of the listener that it's very difficult to convey in a universal way why something is appealing, but if you really want to convince someone that a particular type of music is worth considering, you've got to craft a narrative.
Some styles may be so niche that it's not really possible to ramp the listener up, but on the whole I think this is possible. Take, for example, the first posting about "avant-garde classical". Yes this is a type of music that many people can't easily grok, and it's going to take more than just a few examples of good pieces to get a willing person in the right place to enjoy it.
You have to really get at the heart of it: the fundamental misunderstanding of the term "avant-garde classical", which is a pretty ambiguous term. It could mean many things, and ends up encompassing a whole lot of subtypes or disciplines (much like metal, or country, or rock). The Wikipedia entry on "avant-garde music" lists three possible definitions: either music that is "ahead of its time...containing innovative elements or fusing different genres" or "historically speaking...post-1945 tendencies of a modernist style in several genres of art music", or even more specifically "serial music".
As for a useful definition, I would just go with "art music that doesn't fit well into the traditional forms, rules and expectations of Western European concert music as it was composed and performed before World War I, give or take a few outliers."
As an example of "proto" avant-grade music, I would probably cite the Impressionist composers – Debussy, Ravel, Satie, Boulanger, Scriabin, and post a link to something from Debussy for listening, perhaps the second movement from La mer, explaining its use of whole tone scales, lack of a centralizing key, lack of "classical" structure and motifs. I'd probably mention that he was reportedly inspired by hearing a Javanese Gamelan at the Paris World's Fair in 1889 (wiki link), and how that totally fits with the concept of music that was "ahead of its time" and "fusing different genres".
Next up would be Charles Ives, early 20th century American composer known for his atonal style. His Symphony No. 3 is a good example I think of early avant-garde music that contains many elements of atonality, complex rhythms, and fusions of other genres (like camp songs). And it's pretty listenable to boot.
Then I'd drop a link to Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, which premiered in Paris in 1914, just over a year before WWI started. Another piece way ahead of its time, in many ways, including the set design, costuming and choreography of the ballet.
And that's all stuff that was happening before the traditional, historical definition of "avant-garde music" began. The more accepted historical period began with Arnold Schoenberg and the Second Viennese School.
Schoenberg developed twelve-tone serialism, which was an entirely new way of composing music, more rigidly mathematical and symmetrical than the previous 18th century harmonic tradition. It dominated the avant-garde scene for quite some time, and its influence crossed over into film composition, most notably in horror films such as the classic Hammer Films Curse of the Werewolf.
Now of course not everybody used serialism going forward. But what Schoenberg and his protégés did was open up the idea that music could be completely redone, re-contextualized in any number of ways. So you get people like Harry Partch, who not only created his own compositional rules but also his own instruments. Here's his piece Exordium, which I quite like.
At this point we need to recognize something. Avant-garde music is fundamentally about experimentation. It's about not just thinking outside of the box, but constructing entirely new box out material not traditionally use to make boxes, and the finished box doesn't really look like a box at all. And then you light the box on fire and record the crackle of the flames.
John Cage did a lot of stuff like that. Here's one of his pieces, Sonata II for prepared piano.
Let's not forget Olivier Messiaen's experimentation with Birdsong. Great stuff.
Steve Reich did a lot of experimenting too, in the 1960s he played around with reel-to-reel tape looping. Here's Johnny Greenwood of Radiohead fame playing his looping piece Electric Counterpoint.
Reich is actually really great place to explore, as he's both respectably 'avant-garde' and pretty accessible overall. Here's one of my favorites of his, Reed Phase, from his 'phase' series which is closely related to the tape looping stuff but involves two or more live musicians working to achieve the same effect.
Cage, Reich, Glass, and that's all fine. Glass is a great way to get someone into avant-garde music too. I might start a minor flame-war by asserting that Glass is an avant-garde composer, but he absolutely is. He's a minimalist, which totally its own technique, with its own set of rules and disciplines. Here's one of my favorite Glass pieces, from the finale of Koyaanisqatsi.
There's so much more to explore, I haven't even lightly bruised the surface of it. There's musiqué concrete, Fluxus, and electronic music, for some examples. That's really going down the rabbit hole.
...and in the end it all comes down to taste, but at least with 'avant-garde' music, and indeed with a lot of art music, there's often some context or discipline that if you understand it, will take you a long way towards actually enjoying the music.
But...well...remember how wikipedia said that avant-garde music is all about 'innovative elements' and 'fusing genres'. If I had to pick one piece that exemplifies this, and that I feel might hook someone in, it would have to use Kronos Quartet, performing their interpretation of Jimi Hendrix's Foxy Lady.
posted by Doleful Creature at 11:59 PM on May 3, 2012 [30 favorites]
Norteno. I do not understand Norteno. I especially do not understand the desire to play it extremely loudly from cars.
Don't get me wrong. I very much understand the desire to play music loudly. I understand the desire to play music loudly from cars.
But Norteno? I'm half convinced it's a ruse.
posted by flaterik at 12:12 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Don't get me wrong. I very much understand the desire to play music loudly. I understand the desire to play music loudly from cars.
But Norteno? I'm half convinced it's a ruse.
posted by flaterik at 12:12 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
I'd originally read that as "Serbian turbopunk," and I couldn't figure out if the turbofolk was a gigantic piss-take or not. That has something to do with the drinks I've had, probably. Tangentially-related, though, is a song that I can't get out of my head, a Croatian pseudopunk earworm sung in English that a friend was cruel (and nice) enough to introduce to me a few months back by Psihomodo Pop, which has now set me on a video-walk through Croatian punk that my friend was so insistent on sharing with me. Seriously, there's really good stuff in most genres coming out of Serbia (and, really, all of the former Yugoslavia) that I'm all-too-gleeful to introduce friends to.
uswestcool: I'm digging that, and will probably have it jingling 'round my head next shift I work. Thanks.
Despite the Reddit thread, I'm really still not a fan of modern Country and some of the more esoteric noise played occasionally on the local GaTech station. Sorry, Reddit. Huge, impressive thread that is nevertheless still pretty hard to get into and pay attention to for long.
posted by neewom at 12:37 AM on May 4, 2012
uswestcool: I'm digging that, and will probably have it jingling 'round my head next shift I work. Thanks.
Despite the Reddit thread, I'm really still not a fan of modern Country and some of the more esoteric noise played occasionally on the local GaTech station. Sorry, Reddit. Huge, impressive thread that is nevertheless still pretty hard to get into and pay attention to for long.
posted by neewom at 12:37 AM on May 4, 2012
I listen to both kinds of music. Country AND western.
posted by filthy light thief at 12:56 AM on May 4, 2012
posted by filthy light thief at 12:56 AM on May 4, 2012
Now, could someone tell me how Chicago footwork and juke music is enjoyable? Example: DJ Rashad - Itz Not Right -- This starts off well enough, then makes me think of a CD skipping. This isn't just some random YouTube post, it's on vinyl, on Planet Mu. Traxman makes it more melodic, and I can dig that, but there is so much micro-looping, stuttering madness in what I've heard, I don't understand the appeal.
posted by filthy light thief at 1:06 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by filthy light thief at 1:06 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
MetaFilter: It will introduce you to Rambo Amadeus
posted by furtive at 1:20 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by furtive at 1:20 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
Chicago footwork and juke musicThere is generally things going on down in the bass area that makes it listenable. Also, like a few other dance music genre, there is a linked dance style that will help it make sense. Also, looking at the lineage (ghetto tech) might help it make a bit of sense.
That particular example seems to be missing some of the bass frequencies, or maybe is just mixed poorly, and you might need better speakers to hear it.
posted by jonbro at 1:41 AM on May 4, 2012
There's no way they'd convince me that Irish and Western is not a product of the devil on a bad music day. Anything that produced Daniel O'Donnell, the bane of my childhood, is irredeemable. I refuse to link to any of his music, so if you want to know the horror that he is, you'll have to do the legwork yourself.
posted by lesbiassparrow at 2:03 AM on May 4, 2012
posted by lesbiassparrow at 2:03 AM on May 4, 2012
Anything that produced Daniel O'Donnell, the bane of my childhood, is irredeemable.
But Flick Your Bean is awesome! I'm really looking forward to the album, Lick My Love Spuds.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 2:12 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
But Flick Your Bean is awesome! I'm really looking forward to the album, Lick My Love Spuds.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 2:12 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
Norteno. I do not understand Norteno. I especially do not understand the desire to play it extremely loudly from cars.
You need; three or so beers, summertime, and some other people around with there feelings. Also maybe tacos, I started writing this and now I miss all the tacos of California.
posted by St. Sorryass at 2:52 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
You need; three or so beers, summertime, and some other people around with there feelings. Also maybe tacos, I started writing this and now I miss all the tacos of California.
posted by St. Sorryass at 2:52 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Is this a continuation of the "I don't get art" thread from yesterday?
posted by AndrewKemendo at 4:45 AM on May 4, 2012
posted by AndrewKemendo at 4:45 AM on May 4, 2012
For me, music is about emotional reaction, as I am not a musician in any sense and don't really understand the technical virtuosity of some forms of music. I do not like to hear modern atonal classical, nor opera beyond one or two songs. The sounds make me feel irritated, bad, upset. Like people screaming or fingernails on a chalk board. Most other forms of music I can listen to for a while, and it depends on the setting as well. I can listen to heavy metal and rap at the gym, as it is good music to work out to, although I would not turn it on at home. I like a lot of international music of all sorts, and medieval and baroque, plus Gregorian chant and old liturgical music as well as most rock and folk. I am an old lady, not up on the latest but not adverse to it either. I actually like the sound of bagpipes which a lot of people can't stand.
posted by mermayd at 4:55 AM on May 4, 2012
posted by mermayd at 4:55 AM on May 4, 2012
I'm applying the No True Scotsman principle; if I'd rather listen to the end than shoot myself, then it isn't real K-pop.
posted by nikodym at 5:10 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by nikodym at 5:10 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
I do not like to hear modern atonal classical, nor opera beyond one or two songs.
i don't get opera, either - something about the way they sing just seems wrong and irritating to my 60s pop conditioned ears
posted by pyramid termite at 5:38 AM on May 4, 2012
i don't get opera, either - something about the way they sing just seems wrong and irritating to my 60s pop conditioned ears
posted by pyramid termite at 5:38 AM on May 4, 2012
This starts off well enough, then makes me think of a CD skipping.
That's because it's a bad song. You need to give this album a shot - excellent melodic glitch/IDM with plenty of "CD skipping" sounds that don't interfere with the rest of the music. If this album appeals to you then there's a whole universe of good glitchy music waiting out there.
(FWIW I think edIt's other work is just a bunch of uninspired guest-MC garbage and I don't like hip-hop generally.)
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 5:42 AM on May 4, 2012
That's because it's a bad song. You need to give this album a shot - excellent melodic glitch/IDM with plenty of "CD skipping" sounds that don't interfere with the rest of the music. If this album appeals to you then there's a whole universe of good glitchy music waiting out there.
(FWIW I think edIt's other work is just a bunch of uninspired guest-MC garbage and I don't like hip-hop generally.)
posted by Inspector.Gadget at 5:42 AM on May 4, 2012
That's because it's a bad song.
it's not that good - kind of a leaden attempt to create a 6/8 shuffle out of a 4/4 song
posted by pyramid termite at 5:49 AM on May 4, 2012
it's not that good - kind of a leaden attempt to create a 6/8 shuffle out of a 4/4 song
posted by pyramid termite at 5:49 AM on May 4, 2012
ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS
EXCEPT FOR COUNTRY AND RAP
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
posted by Legomancer at 6:12 AM on May 4, 2012
EXCEPT FOR COUNTRY AND RAP
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
posted by Legomancer at 6:12 AM on May 4, 2012
Now, could someone tell me how Chicago footwork and juke music is enjoyable?
I used to feel the same way about Baltimore Club music until I saw it at a club in Baltimore.
The answer is:
Bass.
&
Dancing.
Go see it at a Chicago club, it's the only way to 'get it'.
posted by empath at 6:26 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
I used to feel the same way about Baltimore Club music until I saw it at a club in Baltimore.
The answer is:
Bass.
&
Dancing.
Go see it at a Chicago club, it's the only way to 'get it'.
posted by empath at 6:26 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
egypturnash: " I would totally suggest King Crimson's album "Discipline"."
This is a dangerous place.
posted by namewithoutwords at 6:51 AM on May 4, 2012
This is a dangerous place.
posted by namewithoutwords at 6:51 AM on May 4, 2012
Make a Dumbful Noise - Rise and Fall of Serbian Turbofolk (and video)
posted by AceRock at 6:59 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by AceRock at 6:59 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Every time someone gets pedantic about dubstep vs. brostep and gives examples of "real" dubstep, nearly everything they link to is just dull and unremarkable. Somebody did mention Nero though, so they are redeemed somewhat.
posted by Foosnark at 6:59 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Foosnark at 6:59 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Every time someone gets pedantic about dubstep vs. brostep and gives examples of "real" dubstep, nearly everything they link to is just dull and unremarkable.
Because you're probably listening to it on bad computer speakers and can't hear the bass. Brostep's wobble is all in the midrange so it sounds good on shitty speakers.
Go listen to serious dubstep and garage at a club with huge booming bass and it will change your life.
posted by empath at 7:02 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Because you're probably listening to it on bad computer speakers and can't hear the bass. Brostep's wobble is all in the midrange so it sounds good on shitty speakers.
Go listen to serious dubstep and garage at a club with huge booming bass and it will change your life.
posted by empath at 7:02 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Norteno. I do not understand Norteno. I especially do not understand the desire to play it extremely loudly from cars.
I would love an entry-level guide to Norteño. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
posted by dubold at 7:20 AM on May 4, 2012
I would love an entry-level guide to Norteño. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
posted by dubold at 7:20 AM on May 4, 2012
from the k-Pop comment thread - ALi
amazing!!
posted by The Biggest Dreamer at 7:24 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
amazing!!
posted by The Biggest Dreamer at 7:24 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
I clicked on a few of the Jambands link and it was just a listing of the 3 or 4 most popular bands. And that's it. I think a better format would be if you like X genre, then you might like Y band. For example, for Jam Bands:
If you like dance/electronica, then you might like some moe., Disco Biscuits, or STS9.
If you like bluegrass then you might like Railroad Earth or Yonder Mountain String Band.
If you like western/americana, then you might like Donna the Buffalo.
If you like jazz, funk, and soul then you might like Soulive.
If you like jazz and blues then you might like Charlie Hunter.
If you like prog rock then you might like Umphrey's McGee.
If you like hiphop then you might like DJ Logic.
If you like indie then you might like Built to Spill.
posted by euphorb at 7:32 AM on May 4, 2012 [4 favorites]
If you like dance/electronica, then you might like some moe., Disco Biscuits, or STS9.
If you like bluegrass then you might like Railroad Earth or Yonder Mountain String Band.
If you like western/americana, then you might like Donna the Buffalo.
If you like jazz, funk, and soul then you might like Soulive.
If you like jazz and blues then you might like Charlie Hunter.
If you like prog rock then you might like Umphrey's McGee.
If you like hiphop then you might like DJ Logic.
If you like indie then you might like Built to Spill.
posted by euphorb at 7:32 AM on May 4, 2012 [4 favorites]
Heh, I was in a jam band once. Umphrey's McGee was our bassist's bread and better. I always preferred Soulive.
posted by Doleful Creature at 8:26 AM on May 4, 2012
posted by Doleful Creature at 8:26 AM on May 4, 2012
Somebody did mention Nero though, so they are redeemed somewhat.
What a fiddler!
posted by ersatz at 8:39 AM on May 4, 2012
What a fiddler!
posted by ersatz at 8:39 AM on May 4, 2012
ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS
EXCEPT FOR COUNTRY AND RAP
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
kickin' it in tennessee
tow down - h.a.w.k.
yes, country rap music
posted by pyramid termite at 8:51 AM on May 4, 2012
EXCEPT FOR COUNTRY AND RAP
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
kickin' it in tennessee
tow down - h.a.w.k.
yes, country rap music
posted by pyramid termite at 8:51 AM on May 4, 2012
filthy light thief: Now, could someone tell me how Chicago footwork and juke music is enjoyable?
jonbro: There is generally things going on down in the bass area that makes it listenable. Also, like a few other dance music genre, there is a linked dance style that will help it make sense. Also, looking at the lineage (ghetto tech) might help it make a bit of sense.
empath: I used to feel the same way about Baltimore Club music until I saw it at a club in Baltimore.
Thanks to both of you for the elaboration, explanations, and links. And now I get to share a bit of my love for good B-More club tunes. Ridiculous stuff, but so much fun!
posted by filthy light thief at 9:05 AM on May 4, 2012
jonbro: There is generally things going on down in the bass area that makes it listenable. Also, like a few other dance music genre, there is a linked dance style that will help it make sense. Also, looking at the lineage (ghetto tech) might help it make a bit of sense.
empath: I used to feel the same way about Baltimore Club music until I saw it at a club in Baltimore.
Thanks to both of you for the elaboration, explanations, and links. And now I get to share a bit of my love for good B-More club tunes. Ridiculous stuff, but so much fun!
posted by filthy light thief at 9:05 AM on May 4, 2012
To me, this is just Sturgeon's Law in action. I name a genre I hate and they sort through the chaff until they find that one piece of gold in the pile of dung that is good. But the remaining 90% (it is likely higher for Contemporary Country) is still dung.
posted by Ber at 9:18 AM on May 4, 2012
posted by Ber at 9:18 AM on May 4, 2012
euphorb: "For example, for Jam Bands:"
Butthole Surfers are a great Jam Band if you like fucked up punk.
posted by idiopath at 9:22 AM on May 4, 2012
Butthole Surfers are a great Jam Band if you like fucked up punk.
posted by idiopath at 9:22 AM on May 4, 2012
lesbiassparrow: ". Anything that produced Daniel O'Donnell, the bane of my childhood, is irredeemable. I refuse to link to any of his music, so if you want to know the horror that he is, you'll have to do the legwork yourself."
Oh god. Oh god, that guy. I remember my parents trying to share him with me, and I just couldn't. I honestly felt nauseous at it...
posted by symbioid at 9:25 AM on May 4, 2012
Oh god. Oh god, that guy. I remember my parents trying to share him with me, and I just couldn't. I honestly felt nauseous at it...
posted by symbioid at 9:25 AM on May 4, 2012
pyramid termite: "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS
EXCEPT FOR COUNTRY AND RAP
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
kickin' it in tennessee
tow down - h.a.w.k.
yes, country rap music"
I can dig it! It's more like real old school rebellious country. Better than 90% of what passes for "country" these days.
posted by symbioid at 9:28 AM on May 4, 2012
EXCEPT FOR COUNTRY AND RAP
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE
kickin' it in tennessee
tow down - h.a.w.k.
yes, country rap music"
I can dig it! It's more like real old school rebellious country. Better than 90% of what passes for "country" these days.
posted by symbioid at 9:28 AM on May 4, 2012
Thanks to both of you for the elaboration, explanations, and links. And now I get to share a bit of my love for good B-More club tunes
I've met Dave Nada a couple of times. Nice guy. He also 'invented' Moombahton, and I still don't know if he's for real or if its a joke.
posted by empath at 9:30 AM on May 4, 2012
I've met Dave Nada a couple of times. Nice guy. He also 'invented' Moombahton, and I still don't know if he's for real or if its a joke.
posted by empath at 9:30 AM on May 4, 2012
Rambo Amadeus
How can you utter the name "Rambo Amadeus" without linking up some videos? It makes no sense.
in addition to the above linked "Don't Happy, Be Worry" -
Plastik Fantastik
Urbano, Samo Urbano
Smrt Popa Mila Jovovica
Robot u Srcu i Dusi
Motel Černobil
posted by louche mustachio at 10:12 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
How can you utter the name "Rambo Amadeus" without linking up some videos? It makes no sense.
in addition to the above linked "Don't Happy, Be Worry" -
Plastik Fantastik
Urbano, Samo Urbano
Smrt Popa Mila Jovovica
Robot u Srcu i Dusi
Motel Černobil
posted by louche mustachio at 10:12 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
Your favorite band... is actually pretty good!
posted by louche mustachio at 10:12 AM on May 4, 2012
posted by louche mustachio at 10:12 AM on May 4, 2012
i don't get opera, either
All The Great Operas in Ten Minutes
posted by louche mustachio at 10:23 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
All The Great Operas in Ten Minutes
posted by louche mustachio at 10:23 AM on May 4, 2012 [2 favorites]
[for norteno,] You need; three or so beers, summertime, and some other people around with there feelings. Also maybe tacos, I started writing this and now I miss all the tacos of California.
Well, I very frequently combine beer, tacos, summertimes, loud music, and friends, but it has rarely been friends who have been playing Norteno.
I think today I shall have tacos for you. If you feel a mysterious wash of vicarious joy, it is from distant tacos.
(FWIW I think edIt's other work is just a bunch of uninspired guest-MC garbage and I don't like hip-hop generally.)
Huh. I LOVE Certified Air Raid Material. It's definitely got a lot of guest-MCs and such, but there are so many great tracks on there. I say this as someone that doesn't listen to much other *-hop, and is pretty bored with almost everything the glitch mob has done since (including having seen them live a few times)... and most people I talk to about them/him feel similarly. I'm not trying to argue with your opinion, I've just never heard that particular flavor of opinion about ediT before so it stands out!
posted by flaterik at 11:49 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
Well, I very frequently combine beer, tacos, summertimes, loud music, and friends, but it has rarely been friends who have been playing Norteno.
I think today I shall have tacos for you. If you feel a mysterious wash of vicarious joy, it is from distant tacos.
(FWIW I think edIt's other work is just a bunch of uninspired guest-MC garbage and I don't like hip-hop generally.)
Huh. I LOVE Certified Air Raid Material. It's definitely got a lot of guest-MCs and such, but there are so many great tracks on there. I say this as someone that doesn't listen to much other *-hop, and is pretty bored with almost everything the glitch mob has done since (including having seen them live a few times)... and most people I talk to about them/him feel similarly. I'm not trying to argue with your opinion, I've just never heard that particular flavor of opinion about ediT before so it stands out!
posted by flaterik at 11:49 AM on May 4, 2012 [1 favorite]
koeselitz: And anyway, "Turbo Folk" is not really a genre at all; it's an invention, a platform designed by one man for his music and his art.
As someone "from the trenches", so to speak, I'll have to disagree with you on that one. "Turbo folk" is definitely a genre, and one which lost any connection to the Rambo Amadeus-style music, at least as far as the majority of people in ex-Yugoslavia are concerned. If around here you say "turbo folk", everyone will instantly know what you're talking about - and they'll have a song by Ceca or Mile Kitic in their mind. It's actually hugely popular among teenagers in all ex-Yu countries (although the popularity seems to be waning, finally). I think it's kind of the local equivalent of gangsta rap.
posted by gakiko at 6:31 AM on May 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
As someone "from the trenches", so to speak, I'll have to disagree with you on that one. "Turbo folk" is definitely a genre, and one which lost any connection to the Rambo Amadeus-style music, at least as far as the majority of people in ex-Yugoslavia are concerned. If around here you say "turbo folk", everyone will instantly know what you're talking about - and they'll have a song by Ceca or Mile Kitic in their mind. It's actually hugely popular among teenagers in all ex-Yu countries (although the popularity seems to be waning, finally). I think it's kind of the local equivalent of gangsta rap.
posted by gakiko at 6:31 AM on May 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
neewom, on the topic of Croatian (sorta)punk, have you discovered Hladno Pivo yet? (Although, I'm not sure whether you'll like them, as a lot of their appeal is in their lyrics. Try to find someone to translate them! :))
posted by gakiko at 6:56 AM on May 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by gakiko at 6:56 AM on May 5, 2012 [2 favorites]
Holy. Fuckin'. Shit.
After hearing this country rap shit for the first time here, I find this reddit thread about this truck utterly adorned 100% with taxidermied animals... I googled the name (pure country truck) and found this video of the dude who owns the truck and he's playing country rap (it might even be one of the songs linked).
Seriously, check out that fuckin' beast of a truck! I don't know what the fuck else you'd need to do to make it any more redneck.
posted by symbioid at 1:46 PM on May 5, 2012
After hearing this country rap shit for the first time here, I find this reddit thread about this truck utterly adorned 100% with taxidermied animals... I googled the name (pure country truck) and found this video of the dude who owns the truck and he's playing country rap (it might even be one of the songs linked).
Seriously, check out that fuckin' beast of a truck! I don't know what the fuck else you'd need to do to make it any more redneck.
posted by symbioid at 1:46 PM on May 5, 2012
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