Punks vs. Yuppies in San Francisco
June 16, 2002 6:40 PM Subscribe
Punks vs. Yuppies in San Francisco I don't know how I feel about trying to get yuppies and punks to reconcile but I do like the idea of a yuppies vs. punks Olympics. It'd be funny if they had one here in NYC (I'd nominate Willimasburg as the location).
Wait, is punk/yuppie really the social dialectic in SF? What about the ravers, the hippies, the freaks?
posted by lbergstr at 6:56 PM on June 16, 2002
posted by lbergstr at 6:56 PM on June 16, 2002
for what it's worth, metafilter/metafilter worked for me on the latimes site.
posted by ztt at 7:06 PM on June 16, 2002
posted by ztt at 7:06 PM on June 16, 2002
Requires registration. Requires cookies. Too lame, I'm outta there.
posted by chipr at 7:44 PM on June 16, 2002
posted by chipr at 7:44 PM on June 16, 2002
Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
posted by Optamystic at 8:03 PM on June 16, 2002
posted by Optamystic at 8:03 PM on June 16, 2002
Wait, is punk/yuppie really the social dialectic in SF?
Of course there are many social groups here but I think the Marina/Mission dialectic came into prominence during the dot-com boom. In particular, the Mission Yuppie Eradication Project started by some guy who named himself after the anarchist Nestor Mahkno, got a lot of press.
posted by vacapinta at 8:08 PM on June 16, 2002
Of course there are many social groups here but I think the Marina/Mission dialectic came into prominence during the dot-com boom. In particular, the Mission Yuppie Eradication Project started by some guy who named himself after the anarchist Nestor Mahkno, got a lot of press.
posted by vacapinta at 8:08 PM on June 16, 2002
If you like Punks vs Yuppies, you may also like the exhibit of the Class War Poster Campaign in SF.
standard disclaimer: I am against class war, blah blah blah....
posted by jessamyn at 9:00 PM on June 16, 2002
standard disclaimer: I am against class war, blah blah blah....
posted by jessamyn at 9:00 PM on June 16, 2002
Referee? Ouchy the Clown, naturally.
Honestly, Chicken John should host this thing down at the Odeon... it'd be a spectacle worthy of his reputation.
posted by gangcandy at 9:01 PM on June 16, 2002
Honestly, Chicken John should host this thing down at the Odeon... it'd be a spectacle worthy of his reputation.
posted by gangcandy at 9:01 PM on June 16, 2002
The women were both blond, both articulate, both ponytailed, both in workout gear and both sipping the same mango drink with a vitamin "fem-boost."
San Francisco - where even the really, really normal people do stuff that's either illegal or impossible to do in 99% of the country.
God, I love the place.
posted by swell at 9:47 PM on June 16, 2002
San Francisco - where even the really, really normal people do stuff that's either illegal or impossible to do in 99% of the country.
God, I love the place.
posted by swell at 9:47 PM on June 16, 2002
I had no idea that we still called people Yuppies any more.
posted by Foaf at 10:29 PM on June 16, 2002
posted by Foaf at 10:29 PM on June 16, 2002
Nice link. Related rants about San Francisco:
"The San Francisco I moved to for the first time in late 1990 - moved to precisely for its reputation for openness and its willingness to tolerate the experimental, the provisional, and the frankly weird - is nowhere to be found among the lineaments of the new city. Not in the painted ladies embalmed for the picture postcard, not in the spanking new redbrick baseball stadium in the heart of SoMa, absolutely not in the fondly recreated and thoroughly neutered decadence peddled as street life in the Haight or the Castro."
(From v-2.org)
"San Francisco and I have never seen eye-to-eye, you see. We don't like each other, and have known to go out of each other's way to piss the other one off. ..I like my pretense up and in your face, like the women in Beverly Hills who wear Prada stilletos while they browse produce and network production deals on their cell phones. Not like the sea of inbred Ivy-Leaguers swarming the craggy hills of SF in Pursuit of The Good, snacking and preaching organically-grown bananas while tossing the peels out the windows of imported SUV's.
Give me LA and its masses of freeway-infested shopping parks, its armies of inorganically-grown centerfolds. At least it's warm here."
( From Dooce )
Personally, I LOVE the city.
posted by justlooking at 11:11 PM on June 16, 2002
"The San Francisco I moved to for the first time in late 1990 - moved to precisely for its reputation for openness and its willingness to tolerate the experimental, the provisional, and the frankly weird - is nowhere to be found among the lineaments of the new city. Not in the painted ladies embalmed for the picture postcard, not in the spanking new redbrick baseball stadium in the heart of SoMa, absolutely not in the fondly recreated and thoroughly neutered decadence peddled as street life in the Haight or the Castro."
(From v-2.org)
"San Francisco and I have never seen eye-to-eye, you see. We don't like each other, and have known to go out of each other's way to piss the other one off. ..I like my pretense up and in your face, like the women in Beverly Hills who wear Prada stilletos while they browse produce and network production deals on their cell phones. Not like the sea of inbred Ivy-Leaguers swarming the craggy hills of SF in Pursuit of The Good, snacking and preaching organically-grown bananas while tossing the peels out the windows of imported SUV's.
Give me LA and its masses of freeway-infested shopping parks, its armies of inorganically-grown centerfolds. At least it's warm here."
( From Dooce )
Personally, I LOVE the city.
posted by justlooking at 11:11 PM on June 16, 2002
Why would anyone want to define themselves as punk these days? It's an artifact of history, like flapper dresses and ragtime.
posted by gimonca at 7:10 AM on June 17, 2002
posted by gimonca at 7:10 AM on June 17, 2002
I think that Berkley used to have an annual punks vs. pigs kickball game. Also, gimonca, no flaming.
posted by goneill at 7:43 AM on June 17, 2002
posted by goneill at 7:43 AM on June 17, 2002
So, do they still make that delicious sourdough bread in Frisco? I really like the cable cars, too.
posted by groundhog at 7:45 AM on June 17, 2002
posted by groundhog at 7:45 AM on June 17, 2002
"The San Francisco I moved to for the first time in late 1990 - moved to precisely for its reputation for openness and its willingness to tolerate the experimental, the provisional, and the frankly weird - is nowhere to be found among the lineaments of the new city. Not in the painted ladies embalmed for the picture postcard, not in the spanking new redbrick baseball stadium in the heart of SoMa, absolutely not in the fondly recreated and thoroughly neutered decadence peddled as street life in the Haight or the Castro."
Awww... San Francisco is growing up. Poor thing.
posted by kindall at 8:54 AM on June 17, 2002
Awww... San Francisco is growing up. Poor thing.
posted by kindall at 8:54 AM on June 17, 2002
No comment.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 9:46 AM on June 17, 2002
posted by BitterOldPunk at 9:46 AM on June 17, 2002
Gimonca must be oblivious to the post-70s punk scene. I define myself as punk and proudly so.
posted by zinegurl at 5:09 PM on June 17, 2002
posted by zinegurl at 5:09 PM on June 17, 2002
Why would anyone want to define themselves as punk these days?
There might be some confusion here. The 'punks' referred to in most of this thread is used as a catch-all term that includes street-punks, skate-punks, the dj crowd, rockers, indies, goth, beatnicks, swingers, retros, mods, urban hipsters etc. The clothes are more Ben Davis/Dickies than JCrew/Banana Republic which would describe the anti-thetical 'yuppie' crowd (which also includes jocks, preps, etc.)
This is different than 'punkers' meaning part of the 'punk' scene.
Thank you.
posted by vacapinta at 6:04 PM on June 17, 2002
There might be some confusion here. The 'punks' referred to in most of this thread is used as a catch-all term that includes street-punks, skate-punks, the dj crowd, rockers, indies, goth, beatnicks, swingers, retros, mods, urban hipsters etc. The clothes are more Ben Davis/Dickies than JCrew/Banana Republic which would describe the anti-thetical 'yuppie' crowd (which also includes jocks, preps, etc.)
This is different than 'punkers' meaning part of the 'punk' scene.
Thank you.
posted by vacapinta at 6:04 PM on June 17, 2002
As I expected, by their designer labels ye shall know them.
posted by groundhog at 5:59 AM on June 18, 2002
posted by groundhog at 5:59 AM on June 18, 2002
Suzy Creamcheese, oh baby... now what's become of you?
posted by BitterOldPunk at 12:24 PM on June 18, 2002
posted by BitterOldPunk at 12:24 PM on June 18, 2002
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