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August 13, 2004 8:36 AM Subscribe
Is Golan Cipel a "gunsel"? Gov. McGreevey's friend Golan Cipel appears to meet the original Maltese Falcon definition (a young man 'kept' for sex by an older man), but not it's later, derived one. Slantpoint provides a timeline of the relationship.
I'd love to see some more scholarship on this meaning of the word gunsel.
posted by Nelson at 9:50 AM on August 13, 2004
posted by Nelson at 9:50 AM on August 13, 2004
here's a start,
The term 'gunsel' derives from the Yiddish 'ganzel'. The well-rehearsed anecdote relating to Hammett's use of the term in TMF suggests that, to 'put one over' Joe Shaw, editor of Black Mask, who had upbraided Hammett for an 'indelicacy' in an earlier submission, Hammett used a fruity-sounding-yet-innocuous term, 'gooseberry lay' as a red-herring, so that he could slip 'gunsel' into the story. ...
I don't think I had ever heard "catamite" either. Two new words in one day, and it's friday the 13th.
I think I better go throw some salt around or something.
posted by milovoo at 10:07 AM on August 13, 2004
The term 'gunsel' derives from the Yiddish 'ganzel'. The well-rehearsed anecdote relating to Hammett's use of the term in TMF suggests that, to 'put one over' Joe Shaw, editor of Black Mask, who had upbraided Hammett for an 'indelicacy' in an earlier submission, Hammett used a fruity-sounding-yet-innocuous term, 'gooseberry lay' as a red-herring, so that he could slip 'gunsel' into the story. ...
I don't think I had ever heard "catamite" either. Two new words in one day, and it's friday the 13th.
I think I better go throw some salt around or something.
posted by milovoo at 10:07 AM on August 13, 2004
I'll leave the language scholarship to the actual language scholars, but I can point to a discussion of The Maltese Falcon and Film Noir homosexuality here at the Encyclopedia of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer Culture.
posted by Jos Bleau at 10:13 AM on August 13, 2004
posted by Jos Bleau at 10:13 AM on August 13, 2004
I think the modern term is "boy toy" or "fuck buddy". Just go to Palm Springs in summer. You'll see.
posted by WolfDaddy at 11:36 AM on August 13, 2004
posted by WolfDaddy at 11:36 AM on August 13, 2004
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"sorted affair"
"the man who's alleged threat"
My delicate sensibilities have been harrassed - I think it's time *I* filed a lawsuit.
posted by junkbox at 9:25 AM on August 13, 2004