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March 23, 2007 7:07 AM Subscribe
Twin Peaks season 2 DVD is almost here ... finally! That leaves precious few days to get prepared: bone up on cast and crew details, argue about theories, click your way through the townsfolk, obsess over every itty bitty blessed detail, buy a "best friends" necklace, keep the faith about the deleted scenes, see whether it makes any more sense in German than English, put a poster on your wall that will give you nightmares, explore the Lodges, watch very bad things happen to Jenna Elfman, walk with Coop through the Black Lodge (part 2), blow the rest of the day reading stuff. For the truly ambitious, book a room in scenic Snoqualmie and watch the entire series there.
This is my formica table...
posted by loquacious at 7:14 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by loquacious at 7:14 AM on March 23, 2007
I FEEL AS THOUGH MY STOMACH IS FILLED WITH A TEAM OF BUMBLEBEES.
posted by the painkiller at 7:21 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by the painkiller at 7:21 AM on March 23, 2007
I recently sold my first season DVDs, because I never thought there will be the rest of the pack. Oh, the irony ...
posted by homodigitalis at 7:32 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by homodigitalis at 7:32 AM on March 23, 2007
I never bought the Artisan season 1 DVDs because I wanted to wait until there was a complete box set.
Note that amazon.de has Twin Peaks: The Complete Mystery available for preorder, so presumably we'll get the same thing later this year--both seasons, along with the original pilot.
(Until then I'll make do with the Worldvision VHS tapes and the "import" copy of the pilot, which looks a hell of a lot like a bootleg.)
posted by Prospero at 7:45 AM on March 23, 2007
Note that amazon.de has Twin Peaks: The Complete Mystery available for preorder, so presumably we'll get the same thing later this year--both seasons, along with the original pilot.
(Until then I'll make do with the Worldvision VHS tapes and the "import" copy of the pilot, which looks a hell of a lot like a bootleg.)
posted by Prospero at 7:45 AM on March 23, 2007
The pilot is on the Region 2 box set for series 1. Neener neener.
posted by slimepuppy at 7:46 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by slimepuppy at 7:46 AM on March 23, 2007
I don't see why you're all so bothered. "INLAND EMPIRE" explained everything.
posted by rhizome23 at 7:47 AM on March 23, 2007 [2 favorites]
posted by rhizome23 at 7:47 AM on March 23, 2007 [2 favorites]
I loved that show. It got me bored enough that I had no choice but to do something more productive with my time.
posted by OmieWise at 7:54 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by OmieWise at 7:54 AM on March 23, 2007
Moo?
posted by loquacious at 7:54 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by loquacious at 7:54 AM on March 23, 2007
What happens toward the end of that Jenna Elfman video? I had to turn it off at the point when they were putting that lotion stuff on the inside of her thighs because I really thought I might throw up if I left it on any longer. It really affected me. As a feminist, I'm so conflicted about David Lynch. I find his movies so compelling, but disturbing at the same time because the women are always abused in the worst ways. I don't think he's a misogynist, but he has some sick shit in his head.
posted by lagreen at 7:58 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by lagreen at 7:58 AM on March 23, 2007
It is happening again.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 7:59 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 7:59 AM on March 23, 2007
I think most people feel that way about Lynch at some point, lagreen. I think that's why we find him compelling. That being said, "Dick Laurent is dead".
posted by rhizome23 at 8:02 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by rhizome23 at 8:02 AM on March 23, 2007
Twin Peaks Season 2 should be required viewing for everyone hooked on Lost. It demonstrates exactly what happens when the creators of a high concept show with bizarre plot twists run out of the storyline they wrote when they first pitched the show and resort to Making Shit Up to keep the story going. It doesn't work very well.
And the movie Fire Walk With Me was even worse. You'd think with the time to shoot a proper movie they'd have made something worth watching, but instead what you get is rape pornography.
posted by Nelson at 8:14 AM on March 23, 2007
And the movie Fire Walk With Me was even worse. You'd think with the time to shoot a proper movie they'd have made something worth watching, but instead what you get is rape pornography.
posted by Nelson at 8:14 AM on March 23, 2007
I'll second Nelson on Fire Walk With Me. I only saw Season One on DVD also despite watching glimpses of episodes when I was five. I've been waiting for this moment for so long, but alas, the movie had to spoil the plot and my impression of the series as a whole.
The awesome video store lady in Italy had Season 2, but it was on VHS and dubbed in Italian. But I'll thank her for introducing me to the wonderful world of David Lynch none the less.
posted by portisfreak at 8:23 AM on March 23, 2007
The awesome video store lady in Italy had Season 2, but it was on VHS and dubbed in Italian. But I'll thank her for introducing me to the wonderful world of David Lynch none the less.
posted by portisfreak at 8:23 AM on March 23, 2007
fellas, don't drink that coffee. You'll never guess - there was a fish! IN the percolator!
(and for the record, I wish people would stop saying it got bad after season 1. It didn't. It got "bad" (still way better than most TV) after episode 15 or so, when you learn that big thing I won't mention. Yeesh.)
posted by ORthey at 8:35 AM on March 23, 2007
(and for the record, I wish people would stop saying it got bad after season 1. It didn't. It got "bad" (still way better than most TV) after episode 15 or so, when you learn that big thing I won't mention. Yeesh.)
posted by ORthey at 8:35 AM on March 23, 2007
Yeah, a good bit of season two was pretty awful. I mean, the whole "James' Big Day Out" storyline was atrocious. But I think the last two or three episodes are still decent and bring the series back to what it was during season one.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 8:35 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 8:35 AM on March 23, 2007
These have been available from Spain and Italy for some time.
I started watching the pilot and season 1 last night (by coincidence) in preparation for the delivery of season 2. It was particularly evocative as I first watched the interactions of the 17 year olds in Twin Peaks as a 17 year old. The fighting for social stature and strength of emotion took me back to my school days and left me with an overwhelming desire for damn fine doughnuts (cherry pie sucks).
posted by Shave at 8:38 AM on March 23, 2007
I started watching the pilot and season 1 last night (by coincidence) in preparation for the delivery of season 2. It was particularly evocative as I first watched the interactions of the 17 year olds in Twin Peaks as a 17 year old. The fighting for social stature and strength of emotion took me back to my school days and left me with an overwhelming desire for damn fine doughnuts (cherry pie sucks).
posted by Shave at 8:38 AM on March 23, 2007
But, yes, I agree with ORthey ... season two was still much better than most television. Even with James.
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 8:39 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by The Great Big Mulp at 8:39 AM on March 23, 2007
Meh. It's no Angriest Dog in the World.
posted by kirkaracha at 8:48 AM on March 23, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by kirkaracha at 8:48 AM on March 23, 2007 [1 favorite]
Problems with season 2 all boil down to Lynch leaving after the network forced his hand on revealing the killer. How do you follow a guy like Lynch? Nobody understands him, including, and perhaps especially, him. So you get a bunch of television directors and writers not only trying to breathe new life into a show after prematurely losing its dramatic drive, but also trying to emulate one of the most creative and artistic film minds of the late 20th century, and of course they botched it! Finally, Lynch gets lured back for the last few episodes, and they are stellar, but it was too late, the damage had been done and the audience alienated.
posted by redhanrahan at 8:49 AM on March 23, 2007
posted by redhanrahan at 8:49 AM on March 23, 2007
the damage had been done
Yeah - I feel like this illustrates the strongly negative vibes I hear over and over about TP, even from people who loved it. I'll agree with anyone who says the show took a dive, but at the same time, one of the fondest couple months of my life was watching TP every Monday and Wednesday with friends in college - and that lasted all the way through. Yeah, I'm being cheesy, I'll admit it. But in some ways, the badness of the later episodes is simply a part of the show and of the culture surrounding the show. And, it ended before it had a chance to totally fall apart.
posted by ORthey at 9:08 AM on March 23, 2007
Yeah - I feel like this illustrates the strongly negative vibes I hear over and over about TP, even from people who loved it. I'll agree with anyone who says the show took a dive, but at the same time, one of the fondest couple months of my life was watching TP every Monday and Wednesday with friends in college - and that lasted all the way through. Yeah, I'm being cheesy, I'll admit it. But in some ways, the badness of the later episodes is simply a part of the show and of the culture surrounding the show. And, it ended before it had a chance to totally fall apart.
posted by ORthey at 9:08 AM on March 23, 2007
I liked the movie. It's painful to watch, and has a lot more iin common with his movies than it did with the teevee show, but I think it's a pretty successful film -- I mean, it's no Inland Empire. It's really close to being a horror movie. I'd happily watch the movie that could have been staring Chris Isaak as Chet Desmond.
Also, there's apparently almost an hour on the cutting room floor, with appearances from all the major characters.
posted by Bookhouse at 9:20 AM on March 23, 2007
Also, there's apparently almost an hour on the cutting room floor, with appearances from all the major characters.
posted by Bookhouse at 9:20 AM on March 23, 2007
Season 2= Television writers without David Lynch.
Fire Walk With Me= David Lynch without television writers.
posted by redhanrahan at 9:36 AM on March 23, 2007 [1 favorite]
Fire Walk With Me= David Lynch without television writers.
posted by redhanrahan at 9:36 AM on March 23, 2007 [1 favorite]
I don't see why you're all so bothered. "INLAND EMPIRE" explained everything.
Ah hahahahahahahahaha. Ha.
That was three hours of my life that I'll never get back.
posted by pinky at 10:08 AM on March 23, 2007
Ah hahahahahahahahaha. Ha.
That was three hours of my life that I'll never get back.
posted by pinky at 10:08 AM on March 23, 2007
Season 2= Television writers without David Lynch.
Fire Walk With Me= David Lynch without television writers.
I was going to comment, but I couldn't have put it any better than this.
With that said -- holy broken hearts, this is going on my wishlist but fast.
posted by Drexen at 10:11 AM on March 23, 2007
Fire Walk With Me= David Lynch without television writers.
I was going to comment, but I couldn't have put it any better than this.
With that said -- holy broken hearts, this is going on my wishlist but fast.
posted by Drexen at 10:11 AM on March 23, 2007
Good thing the expected release date is on the 3rd instead of the 1st of April.
posted by porpoise at 12:45 PM on March 23, 2007
posted by porpoise at 12:45 PM on March 23, 2007
I don't see why you're all so bothered. "INLAND EMPIRE" explained everything.
You are David Lynch and I claim my five pounds
posted by Sparx at 12:57 PM on March 23, 2007
I was touring around the country taking photos for one of my books & ended up in Washington state for the first time ever. Did I go to the Space Needle? Nooo. I drove out to Snoqualmie with a glamour-girl friend of mine and took photos in front of the giant log, the falls, the cherry-pie-and-coffee diner... oh yes.
I love you, Twin Peaks!
posted by bitter-girl.com at 12:58 PM on March 23, 2007
I love you, Twin Peaks!
posted by bitter-girl.com at 12:58 PM on March 23, 2007
A few years ago, my friend and I were visiting Seattle and I convinced him that we should go see the Double R Diner. We got there just as they were closing and I was crushed. But when a tourist came out of nowhere and started taking photos, my friend agreed to come back the next day. Although we planned to have some pie, we wound up eating a full breakfast and didn't have any room left. He went to the bathroom, and came back with bad new: the graffitti read "damn, the pies really ARE that good"
posted by armacy at 1:36 PM on March 23, 2007 [1 favorite]
posted by armacy at 1:36 PM on March 23, 2007 [1 favorite]
Ah hahahahahahahahaha. Ha.
That was three hours of my life that I'll never get back.
His comment was funny, but not three hours of funny.
posted by graventy at 2:41 PM on March 23, 2007
That was three hours of my life that I'll never get back.
His comment was funny, but not three hours of funny.
posted by graventy at 2:41 PM on March 23, 2007
Didn't have time to click through all the links, but does anyone know the link for this great AJAX-style sight which maps out all the connections between the characters from Twin Peaks? I ran into it one time and it was quite amazingly cool and even useful. Is it in jbickers' post?
posted by jackbrown at 4:05 PM on March 23, 2007
posted by jackbrown at 4:05 PM on March 23, 2007
nevermind: Jbickers had it: this is the best link in the post, I'd bet...
http://www.notcoming.com/twinpeaks/chart.html
posted by jackbrown at 4:07 PM on March 23, 2007
http://www.notcoming.com/twinpeaks/chart.html
posted by jackbrown at 4:07 PM on March 23, 2007
Christ, does Snoqualmie need to be so creepy? I can imagine the teen flashlight egg hunt as a scene in any Lynch film.
posted by meech at 8:40 PM on March 23, 2007
posted by meech at 8:40 PM on March 23, 2007
I was going through the attic at my parents' place last year and I found a bottle of water from Snoqualmie Falls that I collected during a family trip through Washington when I was fifteen or sixteen.
We also went to the Twin Peaks diner. It's way smaller and grubbier than it looked on TV. I ordered coffee and cherry pie. Amazingly, the waitress had never heard of Twin Peaks. Thanks for indulging my side-trip request, 'rents!
posted by painquale at 9:58 PM on March 23, 2007
We also went to the Twin Peaks diner. It's way smaller and grubbier than it looked on TV. I ordered coffee and cherry pie. Amazingly, the waitress had never heard of Twin Peaks. Thanks for indulging my side-trip request, 'rents!
posted by painquale at 9:58 PM on March 23, 2007
armacy: He went to the bathroom, and came back with bad new: the graffitti read "damn, the pies really ARE that good"
That story stuck in my head from last time. Now I'm more interested in going to see if the writing is still there than I am interested in the food.
posted by dogwalker at 6:24 AM on March 24, 2007
That story stuck in my head from last time. Now I'm more interested in going to see if the writing is still there than I am interested in the food.
posted by dogwalker at 6:24 AM on March 24, 2007
I love Twin Peaks. But I've had the episodes on my computer for years now. I'm just finally getting to the end of Season 2. Growing up, I always thought it had more to do with the Black Lodge; which is what I really was interested in. It was a great show that never should have been wrested from Lynch's creative control.
posted by Eideteker at 4:08 PM on March 24, 2007
posted by Eideteker at 4:08 PM on March 24, 2007
my friend worked on the season two dvd, and she confirmed to me that they are indeed planning a box set that will include seasons 1, 2, fire walk with me, and bunch of other goodies not available in the standalone season sets. so yes, you should wait just a little longer.
the link above to the amazon.de box set says it's coming on halloween 2007... but no word yet on our USA street date. my friend predicted it would come out "a few months" after the season 2 release.
posted by fac21 at 2:13 PM on March 27, 2007
the link above to the amazon.de box set says it's coming on halloween 2007... but no word yet on our USA street date. my friend predicted it would come out "a few months" after the season 2 release.
posted by fac21 at 2:13 PM on March 27, 2007
How did I miss this post??? I was actually a member of C.O.O.P. (Citizens Opposing the Offing of Peaks). Somewhere in the garage I have their newsletters.
I still think that moment with Leland and the golfballs was one of the creepiest things ever. And when Bob's reflection looked back in the mirror, too.
New shoes! New shoes!
posted by miss lynnster at 11:49 PM on March 29, 2007
I still think that moment with Leland and the golfballs was one of the creepiest things ever. And when Bob's reflection looked back in the mirror, too.
New shoes! New shoes!
posted by miss lynnster at 11:49 PM on March 29, 2007
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Time to queue up some donuts and coffee. I have some friends who had never seen the series til the DVD came out, so they have no idea what happens after the cliff-hanger in series 1...
The owls have not been what they seem in too long a time.
posted by slimepuppy at 7:14 AM on March 23, 2007