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October 14, 2008 11:26 PM Subscribe
Yup, wondered when this would hit the front page. Lovely and cathartic. Thanks whoever made it.
posted by arcanecrowbar at 11:35 PM on October 14, 2008
posted by arcanecrowbar at 11:35 PM on October 14, 2008
They forgot to put her gay "friend" in a Hannibal-Lecter-esque handtruck, gosh darn it.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:35 PM on October 14, 2008 [4 favorites]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 11:35 PM on October 14, 2008 [4 favorites]
Tell me that is really Tina Fey. Please! Tell me.
posted by Cranberry at 11:35 PM on October 14, 2008
posted by Cranberry at 11:35 PM on October 14, 2008
I'm all for giving the people what they want.
posted by PostIronyIsNotaMyth at 11:40 PM on October 14, 2008 [5 favorites]
posted by PostIronyIsNotaMyth at 11:40 PM on October 14, 2008 [5 favorites]
How do I get to the mechanical age?
posted by zippy at 11:40 PM on October 14, 2008 [18 favorites]
posted by zippy at 11:40 PM on October 14, 2008 [18 favorites]
This is funny, but I can't favorit it, because the phrase 'Palin as President' is going to keep me from falling asleep tonight.
posted by BrotherCaine at 11:45 PM on October 14, 2008
posted by BrotherCaine at 11:45 PM on October 14, 2008
Loved that flash. The door on the left is scary.
posted by nickyskye at 11:47 PM on October 14, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by nickyskye at 11:47 PM on October 14, 2008 [1 favorite]
It's scary to think that some people may actually believe she's qualified.
posted by Pseudology at 11:54 PM on October 14, 2008
posted by Pseudology at 11:54 PM on October 14, 2008
I only got to knock one toy soldier off the desk. A non-simulation Palin Presidency would be a lot harder on the military methinks.
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 12:06 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 12:06 AM on October 15, 2008
Adding fresh Zina Saunders' illustrations of Sarah Palin to this thread.
posted by nickyskye at 12:07 AM on October 15, 2008 [22 favorites]
posted by nickyskye at 12:07 AM on October 15, 2008 [22 favorites]
She's scary!
No, she's Churchy. Scary is the black one.
posted by pracowity at 12:13 AM on October 15, 2008 [37 favorites]
No, she's Churchy. Scary is the black one.
posted by pracowity at 12:13 AM on October 15, 2008 [37 favorites]
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Seriously. :(
posted by moonshine at 12:13 AM on October 15, 2008
Seriously. :(
posted by moonshine at 12:13 AM on October 15, 2008
I love the dinosaur walking around outside the windows.
posted by clearly at 12:25 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by clearly at 12:25 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
Tell me that is really Tina Fey. Please! Tell me.
posted by Cranberry at 11:35 PM on October 14 [+] [!]
No, that is clearly not Tina Fey
posted by Lacking Subtlety at 1:31 AM on October 15, 2008
Obama and roaming Dinosaurs, mmm... That would be great !
posted by Jaloux Saboteur at 4:27 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Jaloux Saboteur at 4:27 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Deliciously subversive.
How about smug, prejudiced, classist? This is why Democrats can't win national elections. What does this subvert? It just supports your own self-satisfied conceit. You could construct a page called "Obama" as president, stocked with equally false and ugly images based on the other side's lies and exaggerations. Why not a picture of Obama sitting in the Oval Office with one of the Ayers' bombs ticking away on the floor, with bling-laden gangsta rappers and their ho's outside the window, copies of Das Kapital lying on the desk, recordings of endorsements by Phil Spector, O.J. Simpson, Palestinian terrorists, and other unsavory Obama supporters. Outside the window, you'd see a Chicago housing project, with broken windows and pimps driving Escalades... you get the picture. "Palin as President" is just the liberal version of the kind of thick-headed exaggeration the famous New Yorker cover of Obama and his wife pictured as terrorists, hoped to pre-empt. You're all foul, and all your politics stinks.
posted by Faze at 4:37 AM on October 15, 2008 [14 favorites]
How about smug, prejudiced, classist? This is why Democrats can't win national elections. What does this subvert? It just supports your own self-satisfied conceit. You could construct a page called "Obama" as president, stocked with equally false and ugly images based on the other side's lies and exaggerations. Why not a picture of Obama sitting in the Oval Office with one of the Ayers' bombs ticking away on the floor, with bling-laden gangsta rappers and their ho's outside the window, copies of Das Kapital lying on the desk, recordings of endorsements by Phil Spector, O.J. Simpson, Palestinian terrorists, and other unsavory Obama supporters. Outside the window, you'd see a Chicago housing project, with broken windows and pimps driving Escalades... you get the picture. "Palin as President" is just the liberal version of the kind of thick-headed exaggeration the famous New Yorker cover of Obama and his wife pictured as terrorists, hoped to pre-empt. You're all foul, and all your politics stinks.
posted by Faze at 4:37 AM on October 15, 2008 [14 favorites]
Oh, Democrats can win national elections. Can, and have. In fact, it's about to happen again.
And sure, someone could make a page for Obama. But it wouldn't be as funny, because he just doesn't have as many interesting positions on book-banning, evolution, Russia, etc. The fact that Palin's such a joke as a politian is what makes her so much funnier in...jokes.
posted by jamstigator at 4:47 AM on October 15, 2008 [9 favorites]
And sure, someone could make a page for Obama. But it wouldn't be as funny, because he just doesn't have as many interesting positions on book-banning, evolution, Russia, etc. The fact that Palin's such a joke as a politian is what makes her so much funnier in...jokes.
posted by jamstigator at 4:47 AM on October 15, 2008 [9 favorites]
This thread, from about here on down, is gonna need its coffee first, isn't it?
posted by Windigo at 4:47 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
posted by Windigo at 4:47 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
Faze, we're about to have a Democratic landslide of epic proportions. I think your 'concern' is misplaced.
Also,
MAVERICK!
posted by empath at 4:57 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Also,
MAVERICK!
posted by empath at 4:57 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
empath: "Faze, we're about to have a Democratic landslide of epic proportions. "
Ssh, don't jinx things.
posted by octothorpe at 5:00 AM on October 15, 2008 [10 favorites]
Ssh, don't jinx things.
posted by octothorpe at 5:00 AM on October 15, 2008 [10 favorites]
Faze, you're right, I could construct such a page. But I don't have to because Palin herself, among others, are spending like 29 hours a day to more or less do it for me, only with more angry and violent rhetoric and less flash animation.
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 5:09 AM on October 15, 2008 [6 favorites]
posted by Kid Charlemagne at 5:09 AM on October 15, 2008 [6 favorites]
How about smug, prejudiced, classist? This is why Democrats can't win national elections.
So, your contention is that we should... what, exactly? The most woefully unqualified candidate in living memory, a caricature of everything that half the country thinks is wrong with politics and indeed with humanity writ large, is poised to become second-in-succession behind a 72-year-old cancer survivor. She's an unapologetic young-earth creationist who thinks physical proximity is exchangeable for actual foreign policy experience, a small-town girl who couldn't manage to use her executive sway to get her idiot brother-in-law fired without getting her fingerprints all over it, a woman whose supporters won't or can't mount any kind of defense of her, so we should just let it slide? No. Just because she's nothing but low-hanging fruit, doesn't somehow insulate her from attacks on her ridiculous and ignorant positions. We should tear her limb from limb in every form of discourse we can arrange, and make Flash websites with her riding a Brachiosaurus and waving her cowboy hat and burning books and throwing darts at a list of absurd baby names, and perhaps make it known that if you choose an incompetent candidate for elected office, you'll pay for it. Whatever smug assholery Democrats brought to bear in the last two elections was just batting practice for the real thing, and now that we've found someone who actually deserves it, we're damned well going to make hay of it.
You're all foul, and all your politics stinks.
Lighten up, Francis.
posted by Mayor West at 5:22 AM on October 15, 2008 [77 favorites]
So, your contention is that we should... what, exactly? The most woefully unqualified candidate in living memory, a caricature of everything that half the country thinks is wrong with politics and indeed with humanity writ large, is poised to become second-in-succession behind a 72-year-old cancer survivor. She's an unapologetic young-earth creationist who thinks physical proximity is exchangeable for actual foreign policy experience, a small-town girl who couldn't manage to use her executive sway to get her idiot brother-in-law fired without getting her fingerprints all over it, a woman whose supporters won't or can't mount any kind of defense of her, so we should just let it slide? No. Just because she's nothing but low-hanging fruit, doesn't somehow insulate her from attacks on her ridiculous and ignorant positions. We should tear her limb from limb in every form of discourse we can arrange, and make Flash websites with her riding a Brachiosaurus and waving her cowboy hat and burning books and throwing darts at a list of absurd baby names, and perhaps make it known that if you choose an incompetent candidate for elected office, you'll pay for it. Whatever smug assholery Democrats brought to bear in the last two elections was just batting practice for the real thing, and now that we've found someone who actually deserves it, we're damned well going to make hay of it.
You're all foul, and all your politics stinks.
Lighten up, Francis.
posted by Mayor West at 5:22 AM on October 15, 2008 [77 favorites]
Lighten up, Francis.
Missed it by that much ...
posted by octobersurprise at 5:25 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Missed it by that much ...
posted by octobersurprise at 5:25 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I kept furiously clicking on that image because I assumed it had to be one of those escape the room games.
posted by Pastabagel at 5:41 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by Pastabagel at 5:41 AM on October 15, 2008
You're all foul, and all your politics stinks.
I'm rubber, you're glue, and all that.
posted by Dr-Baa at 5:51 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I'm rubber, you're glue, and all that.
posted by Dr-Baa at 5:51 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Outside the window, you'd see a Chicago housing project, with broken windows and pimps driving Escalades
As a proud DC resident this seems the most offensive to me. Our pimps drive fuel efficient tahoe hybrids.
And when they come to march on ya'
Tell 'em to make sure they got their James Brown pass
And don't be surprised if Ali is in the White House
Reverend Ike, Secretary of the Treasure
Richard Pryor, Minister of Education
Stevie Wonder, Secretary of FINE arts
And Miss Aretha Franklin, the First Lady
Are you out there, CC?
A chocolate city is no dream
It's my piece of the rock and I dig you, CC
God bless Chocolate City and its vanilla suburbs.
posted by Pollomacho at 5:51 AM on October 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
As a proud DC resident this seems the most offensive to me. Our pimps drive fuel efficient tahoe hybrids.
And when they come to march on ya'
Tell 'em to make sure they got their James Brown pass
And don't be surprised if Ali is in the White House
Reverend Ike, Secretary of the Treasure
Richard Pryor, Minister of Education
Stevie Wonder, Secretary of FINE arts
And Miss Aretha Franklin, the First Lady
Are you out there, CC?
A chocolate city is no dream
It's my piece of the rock and I dig you, CC
God bless Chocolate City and its vanilla suburbs.
posted by Pollomacho at 5:51 AM on October 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
Ok, I thought it was funny. Then again, I'm so boring that I was excited to watch the season premiere of Frontline and stayed up past bedtime. And I still have a fondness in my heart for the mom from Bobby's World.
I don't understand, so is Is Barack Obama Muslin? going to lose the election for him because it makes fun of people who don't know about religions that aren't Christianity? Or can't be bothered to proofread?
posted by giraffe at 5:53 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
I don't understand, so is Is Barack Obama Muslin? going to lose the election for him because it makes fun of people who don't know about religions that aren't Christianity? Or can't be bothered to proofread?
posted by giraffe at 5:53 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
Is this some sort of viral for Myst VI?
posted by aftermarketradio at 5:53 AM on October 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
posted by aftermarketradio at 5:53 AM on October 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
I wanted to hate this, but after clicking on a few things that were "maverick," it won me over.
She's an unapologetic young-earth creationist
Imagine a candidate whose political ambition is to reveal the extraterrestrial secrets of Area 51. Would this person get any respect in the public eye? Jesus fucking christ.
posted by uncleozzy at 6:09 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
She's an unapologetic young-earth creationist
Imagine a candidate whose political ambition is to reveal the extraterrestrial secrets of Area 51. Would this person get any respect in the public eye? Jesus fucking christ.
posted by uncleozzy at 6:09 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
And, for the record, she does actually say 'Maverick' at about that same rate. I don't know if you watched the debates, but this is pretty accurate.
posted by six-or-six-thirty at 6:12 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by six-or-six-thirty at 6:12 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
There would never be an equivalent page about Obama because that would be racist. PERIOD.
posted by Gungho at 6:16 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Gungho at 6:16 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Is this some sort of viral for Myst VI?
So she burned the linking books! Atrus' long lost evil daughter!
posted by cowbellemoo at 6:16 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
So she burned the linking books! Atrus' long lost evil daughter!
posted by cowbellemoo at 6:16 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
Outside the window, you'd see a Chicago housing project, with broken windows and pimps driving Escalades... you get the picture.
And the equivalent of your scenario on this site is ... ? Give me the picture.
posted by raysmj at 6:23 AM on October 15, 2008
And the equivalent of your scenario on this site is ... ? Give me the picture.
posted by raysmj at 6:23 AM on October 15, 2008
Democrats mock Palin for saying dinosaurs and men walked the earth at the same time. Republicans mock Obama for... something about Escalades and housing projects.
Democrats mock Palin for thinking proximity = foreign affairs, because that's what she claims. Republicans mock Obama for... something to do with gangsta rappers.
Democrats mock Palin for naming her children odd names, because her kids have names like "Trig." Republicans mock Obama for... something about being Muslim.
The Democrats mock Palin for things she actually said and did, while Republicans mock Obama for... something vaguely to do with the fact that he is black. And then they wonder why they get called racists?
posted by grubi at 6:37 AM on October 15, 2008 [81 favorites]
Democrats mock Palin for thinking proximity = foreign affairs, because that's what she claims. Republicans mock Obama for... something to do with gangsta rappers.
Democrats mock Palin for naming her children odd names, because her kids have names like "Trig." Republicans mock Obama for... something about being Muslim.
The Democrats mock Palin for things she actually said and did, while Republicans mock Obama for... something vaguely to do with the fact that he is black. And then they wonder why they get called racists?
posted by grubi at 6:37 AM on October 15, 2008 [81 favorites]
I'd love to see the same page for Obama, but unfortunately, McCain doesn't have supporters that understand the web. Or iPhone apps. Or effective marketing. Or campaigning. Or the economy.
I seriously don't get where people think Obama is immune from jokes. The man has a name that 30% of America can't even pronounce, 10% of news organizations get wrong (and everyone has mispronounced at some point), has the middle name of a dead dictator who's head popped off when we hung him, has a million dollar house, is running with conflicting backstories (either he's someone with huge disadvantages done good, or he's one of the people, no way to claim both in this economy), picked a running mate that the best thing he could say about Obama was that he was clean and articulate (and said running mate thinks Hillary would do a better job as VP), and Obama is *gasp* black.
I could go on. It's not hard. All you have to do is go back though interviews and see what Obama himself has made fun of.
Thing is, I'm guessing Obama would have a better sense of humor about the whole thing.
posted by cjorgensen at 6:46 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I seriously don't get where people think Obama is immune from jokes. The man has a name that 30% of America can't even pronounce, 10% of news organizations get wrong (and everyone has mispronounced at some point), has the middle name of a dead dictator who's head popped off when we hung him, has a million dollar house, is running with conflicting backstories (either he's someone with huge disadvantages done good, or he's one of the people, no way to claim both in this economy), picked a running mate that the best thing he could say about Obama was that he was clean and articulate (and said running mate thinks Hillary would do a better job as VP), and Obama is *gasp* black.
I could go on. It's not hard. All you have to do is go back though interviews and see what Obama himself has made fun of.
Thing is, I'm guessing Obama would have a better sense of humor about the whole thing.
posted by cjorgensen at 6:46 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I hate republican rant in 3, 2, 1....
Faze you just prove how big of whiners republicans really really REALLY are! Everyday Obama can be called a liar, terrorist, and anti-America but God forbid anyone say anything about the Moral, Ethical, Christian, and Wholesome values of these lizard brained out for their rich frat friend minded jerks. For ten years more or less they have had complete or near complete control of the government and look where we are:
They have done nothing worth mentioning for morals and christian values
They dragged us into a costly war against a nation that did nothing to us
Our economy is in the crapper
The world pretty much hates us.
Our infrastructure is falling apart.
People doubted the fairness of both of the last 2 elections
Rich got richer! Yippeeee
The poor got nothing....
And the middle class got screwed!
Why on God's green earth would educated (no wait... I've seen youtube clips of McCain backers, I think they were burning books and crosses?) people back up 4 more years of the same?
Sorry back on topic here: This was meant as a joke... you know ha ha ha... ho ho ho... he he he... who who who.... There is a freaking dinosaur in the back ground for heaven sake.
posted by Mastercheddaar at 6:48 AM on October 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
Faze you just prove how big of whiners republicans really really REALLY are! Everyday Obama can be called a liar, terrorist, and anti-America but God forbid anyone say anything about the Moral, Ethical, Christian, and Wholesome values of these lizard brained out for their rich frat friend minded jerks. For ten years more or less they have had complete or near complete control of the government and look where we are:
They have done nothing worth mentioning for morals and christian values
They dragged us into a costly war against a nation that did nothing to us
Our economy is in the crapper
The world pretty much hates us.
Our infrastructure is falling apart.
People doubted the fairness of both of the last 2 elections
Rich got richer! Yippeeee
The poor got nothing....
And the middle class got screwed!
Why on God's green earth would educated (no wait... I've seen youtube clips of McCain backers, I think they were burning books and crosses?) people back up 4 more years of the same?
Sorry back on topic here: This was meant as a joke... you know ha ha ha... ho ho ho... he he he... who who who.... There is a freaking dinosaur in the back ground for heaven sake.
posted by Mastercheddaar at 6:48 AM on October 15, 2008 [4 favorites]
Well, that was fun. Unfortunately I blew us up early on. Come to think of it, it wasn't fun.
posted by nax at 6:49 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by nax at 6:49 AM on October 15, 2008
This thread was worth it just to see the Faze jump the shark...
posted by HuronBob at 6:51 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by HuronBob at 6:51 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
You're all foul, and all your politics stinks.
...Faze, there's a difference between a web page that is CLEARLY meant to be a parody and a whisper campaign that capitalizes on the fears of voters intended as a serious attack.
Parody and mean-spirited jokes are par for the course in politics, and have been all the way back to the days of George Washington. It's not nice, but it happens. A manipulative slander campaign, however, is the kind of politics that stinks.
And it's the people who can't tell the difference between the two who are "foul."
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:55 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
...Faze, there's a difference between a web page that is CLEARLY meant to be a parody and a whisper campaign that capitalizes on the fears of voters intended as a serious attack.
Parody and mean-spirited jokes are par for the course in politics, and have been all the way back to the days of George Washington. It's not nice, but it happens. A manipulative slander campaign, however, is the kind of politics that stinks.
And it's the people who can't tell the difference between the two who are "foul."
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 6:55 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
You could construct a page called "Obama" as president, stocked with equally false and ugly images based on the other side's lies and exaggerations.
Sure, but it's so much easier with sarah palin. Kid Charlemagne is right, she 's taking care of the caricature. Comedians don't even have to stretch their texts, only to repeat what she has said.
posted by nicolin at 6:55 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
Sure, but it's so much easier with sarah palin. Kid Charlemagne is right, she 's taking care of the caricature. Comedians don't even have to stretch their texts, only to repeat what she has said.
posted by nicolin at 6:55 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
The dinosaur is the kicker. Of course, with all of that drilling, you know he'd end up covered in oil, and then there would be a 'Save the dinosaur' movement.
BTW, can anyone tell me what's hanging above the cross? It looks like a dreamcatcher, or a wind-chime, or some other kind of folksy crap.
posted by mitzyjalapeno at 6:59 AM on October 15, 2008
BTW, can anyone tell me what's hanging above the cross? It looks like a dreamcatcher, or a wind-chime, or some other kind of folksy crap.
posted by mitzyjalapeno at 6:59 AM on October 15, 2008
No more. Played and played again.
posted by MarshallPoe at 7:01 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by MarshallPoe at 7:01 AM on October 15, 2008
>> stocked with equally false and ugly images based on the other side's lies and exaggerations.
This is the thing that I don't think Republicans have grokked yet:
These are not lies or exaggerations.
The diplomas? Trying to spy Russia out her window? The spinning globe demonstrating no awareness of the world outside? The dinosaurs? The oil rigs? The proud waving of her Wasilla "experience"? The rejection of science?
These aren't merely unsavory supporters scraped out of her far-distant past in order to smear Palin. These are all repeatedly proven memes that Palin herself has expressed -- and usually, inexplicably, with pride, as if it's somehow glamorous or honorable to be ignorant and provincial.
The McCain team wants to brag that Palin is Jane Six-Pack. The rest of the world is now choosing to mock that position.
As the hoary prosecutor on [Your Favorite Courtroom Drama Here] would say, "Defense is the one that willingly opened this door, Your Honor. They don't get to stop us from walking through it now."
I didn't mind John McCain so much, a year ago. He had amply demonstrated that he would step out of the GOP line. He behaved with honor. He had shown more of an independent, moderate face that any of his conservative colleagues. In early 2008, when I pondered the spectre of Obama v. McCain, and what would happen if my guy lost yet again, I wasn't filled with the same sense of dread and nausea and despair as in 2004. I thought, "Well, it wouldn't be great, but it wouldn't be terrible."
Enter Palin.
I've now given money to Obama. I've got signs in my yard, and back-ups for when those get stolen, and a plan for the very last sign. I'm going to early-vote next week so that I can phone-bank and volunteer on Election Day. I watch Maddow and Olbermann, and I can rebut any Obama smear or McCain laud that a layman observer might toss my way in casual conversation. I am 100% engaged, and I've got another 10-20% in reserve for the last 10 days.
You know why? Because this ambitious, ignorant small-town rube is the scariest thing I've seen facing the United States of America in the 15 years that I've been a cognizant participant in the system. She might be a fine person but she's simply not qualified to lead the country.
And the choice of Palin tells me that McCain isn't either. The choice of her specifically to fire up the base -- with racist and dangerous mob-mentality rhetoric that even conservatives are growing frightened of -- tells me that he's not the man of honor I once thought, either.
Republicans of character and self-awareness would be able to admit that, rather than riding stalwart to the little lady's defense with this constant kneejerk "SHE IS TOO SMRT!!!!!" position. It's unbecoming.
posted by pineapple at 7:17 AM on October 15, 2008 [73 favorites]
This is the thing that I don't think Republicans have grokked yet:
These are not lies or exaggerations.
The diplomas? Trying to spy Russia out her window? The spinning globe demonstrating no awareness of the world outside? The dinosaurs? The oil rigs? The proud waving of her Wasilla "experience"? The rejection of science?
These aren't merely unsavory supporters scraped out of her far-distant past in order to smear Palin. These are all repeatedly proven memes that Palin herself has expressed -- and usually, inexplicably, with pride, as if it's somehow glamorous or honorable to be ignorant and provincial.
The McCain team wants to brag that Palin is Jane Six-Pack. The rest of the world is now choosing to mock that position.
As the hoary prosecutor on [Your Favorite Courtroom Drama Here] would say, "Defense is the one that willingly opened this door, Your Honor. They don't get to stop us from walking through it now."
I didn't mind John McCain so much, a year ago. He had amply demonstrated that he would step out of the GOP line. He behaved with honor. He had shown more of an independent, moderate face that any of his conservative colleagues. In early 2008, when I pondered the spectre of Obama v. McCain, and what would happen if my guy lost yet again, I wasn't filled with the same sense of dread and nausea and despair as in 2004. I thought, "Well, it wouldn't be great, but it wouldn't be terrible."
Enter Palin.
I've now given money to Obama. I've got signs in my yard, and back-ups for when those get stolen, and a plan for the very last sign. I'm going to early-vote next week so that I can phone-bank and volunteer on Election Day. I watch Maddow and Olbermann, and I can rebut any Obama smear or McCain laud that a layman observer might toss my way in casual conversation. I am 100% engaged, and I've got another 10-20% in reserve for the last 10 days.
You know why? Because this ambitious, ignorant small-town rube is the scariest thing I've seen facing the United States of America in the 15 years that I've been a cognizant participant in the system. She might be a fine person but she's simply not qualified to lead the country.
And the choice of Palin tells me that McCain isn't either. The choice of her specifically to fire up the base -- with racist and dangerous mob-mentality rhetoric that even conservatives are growing frightened of -- tells me that he's not the man of honor I once thought, either.
Republicans of character and self-awareness would be able to admit that, rather than riding stalwart to the little lady's defense with this constant kneejerk "SHE IS TOO SMRT!!!!!" position. It's unbecoming.
posted by pineapple at 7:17 AM on October 15, 2008 [73 favorites]
Nthing the lack of lies and exaggerations. She really does hate science. I mean...creationism? In the White House? AGAIN?
posted by DU at 7:46 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by DU at 7:46 AM on October 15, 2008
Seriously, Faze gets three favourites? Here? For a youtube quality post about politics?
You (Americans) may all be screwed!
posted by opsin at 7:48 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
You (Americans) may all be screwed!
posted by opsin at 7:48 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
creationism? In [MY] White House?
It's more likely than you think.
posted by uncleozzy at 7:49 AM on October 15, 2008
It's more likely than you think.
posted by uncleozzy at 7:49 AM on October 15, 2008
It's more likely than you think.
In what respect, Charlie?
posted by DU at 7:57 AM on October 15, 2008
In what respect, Charlie?
posted by DU at 7:57 AM on October 15, 2008
This is why Democrats can't win national elections.
Well that's a poorly timed critique.
posted by Jaltcoh at 8:01 AM on October 15, 2008 [5 favorites]
Well that's a poorly timed critique.
posted by Jaltcoh at 8:01 AM on October 15, 2008 [5 favorites]
I will say this in Faze's favor (somewhat)- this kind of simplistic hurf-durf mocking of Sarah Palin has the potential to distract the people from the larger problem: the GOP is clearly going to lose the election, but they see their future in Sarah Palin. They're going to spend the next 8 years grooming her, training her to not bumble her way through interviews. She may not be, as they say about Bush, "intellectually curious", but she's clearly shrewd and willing to be a mouthpiece for an agenda she doesn't totally understand because it'll make her rich.
Her mean-spirited divisiveness is best condemned, not mocked.
Cranberry: Tell me that is really Tina Fey. Please! Tell me.
Obama/Fey '12!
posted by mkultra at 8:10 AM on October 15, 2008
Her mean-spirited divisiveness is best condemned, not mocked.
Cranberry: Tell me that is really Tina Fey. Please! Tell me.
Obama/Fey '12!
posted by mkultra at 8:10 AM on October 15, 2008
Mayor West: Whatever smug assholery Democrats brought to bear in the last two elections was just batting practice for the real thing, and now that we've found someone who actually deserves it, we're damned well going to make hay of it.
Now? NOW?
posted by adamrice at 8:14 AM on October 15, 2008
Now? NOW?
posted by adamrice at 8:14 AM on October 15, 2008
This is why Democrats can't win national elections.
Since 1950, the Democrats have held the office of President for 10 terms. Republicans?
Nine.
Check your facts there, Skippy.
posted by Astro Zombie at 8:17 AM on October 15, 2008
Since 1950, the Democrats have held the office of President for 10 terms. Republicans?
Nine.
Check your facts there, Skippy.
posted by Astro Zombie at 8:17 AM on October 15, 2008
Whoops, since 1933, rather.
posted by Astro Zombie at 8:18 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by Astro Zombie at 8:18 AM on October 15, 2008
How about smug, prejudiced, classist? This is why Democrats can't win national elections. What does this subvert? It just supports your own self-satisfied conceit. You could construct a page called "Obama" as president, stocked with equally false and ugly images based on the other side's lies and exaggerations.
Yeah, "Palin" = "Obama". That's astute.
posted by Mental Wimp at 8:31 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Yeah, "Palin" = "Obama". That's astute.
posted by Mental Wimp at 8:31 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
This is why Democrats can't win national elections.
Answer 1: Didn't we win the one of the biggest landslides in congressional history in 2006? Doesn't that count?
Answer 2: The reason we couldn't win is we kept agreeing with the Republicans.
posted by grubi at 8:34 AM on October 15, 2008
Answer 1: Didn't we win the one of the biggest landslides in congressional history in 2006? Doesn't that count?
Answer 2: The reason we couldn't win is we kept agreeing with the Republicans.
posted by grubi at 8:34 AM on October 15, 2008
Damn funny. And pineapple, that was an awesome comment.
Mockery is perfectly legitimate if what is being mocked is not just an alternative view or candidate, but an ignorant and ugly one. pineapple nails it: there's nothing wrong with making fun of shit if it's true.
posted by fourcheesemac at 8:39 AM on October 15, 2008
Mockery is perfectly legitimate if what is being mocked is not just an alternative view or candidate, but an ignorant and ugly one. pineapple nails it: there's nothing wrong with making fun of shit if it's true.
posted by fourcheesemac at 8:39 AM on October 15, 2008
Seriously, Faze gets three favourites? Here? For a youtube quality post about politics?
Not all MeFites use favorites to indicate approval of a comment. Some use them to track assholish comments for future reference.
posted by ericb at 8:39 AM on October 15, 2008 [7 favorites]
Not all MeFites use favorites to indicate approval of a comment. Some use them to track assholish comments for future reference.
posted by ericb at 8:39 AM on October 15, 2008 [7 favorites]
McCain follows Obama and advertises on XBox (funny)
posted by fourcheesemac at 8:40 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
posted by fourcheesemac at 8:40 AM on October 15, 2008 [3 favorites]
It always intrigues me to hear people say that McCain was not so bad until things started going south for him in this campaign. To me, he pretty much sold his shriveled soul when he backed the Military Commissions Act in 2006. And I suspect in wouldn't be too difficult to find earlier examples of blatant electioneering.
Maverick, my ass.
posted by fingers_of_fire at 8:42 AM on October 15, 2008
Maverick, my ass.
posted by fingers_of_fire at 8:42 AM on October 15, 2008
These aren't merely unsavory supporters scraped out of her far-distant past in order to smear Palin. These are all repeatedly proven memes that Palin herself has expressed...
Exactly ... and Palin's own words and actions (past and present) have provided political catoonists, late-night TV hosts, Saturday Night Live writers and a bevy of amateur and professional satirists with incredible fodder over the past two-months. She is a caricature of herself.
posted by ericb at 8:43 AM on October 15, 2008
Exactly ... and Palin's own words and actions (past and present) have provided political catoonists, late-night TV hosts, Saturday Night Live writers and a bevy of amateur and professional satirists with incredible fodder over the past two-months. She is a caricature of herself.
posted by ericb at 8:43 AM on October 15, 2008
"You can't hide from me, gotcha media!"
Hee.
How would you construct something as funny for Obama? Probably we will have to wait further into his term of office, for him to do something goofy. Even if he enrolled in clown college tomorrow, he'd have to work mighty hard and get up mighty earlier to top Palin in the idiocy department. That's why there's so much more mockery of her...she makes it so darn easy, doncha know.
(and really..ghetto jokes? Really? That's the best Faze can come up with? Dude.)
posted by emjaybee at 8:49 AM on October 15, 2008
Hee.
How would you construct something as funny for Obama? Probably we will have to wait further into his term of office, for him to do something goofy. Even if he enrolled in clown college tomorrow, he'd have to work mighty hard and get up mighty earlier to top Palin in the idiocy department. That's why there's so much more mockery of her...she makes it so darn easy, doncha know.
(and really..ghetto jokes? Really? That's the best Faze can come up with? Dude.)
posted by emjaybee at 8:49 AM on October 15, 2008
Yeah, Faze, why don't you assure us how qualified Palin is, and how she really is the best pick for VP that McCain could possibly come up with. I'm doing the Madame Defarge thing these days and knitting out the names of people who have sacrificed every last bit of credibility and decency to do so, such that we not allow them to later pretend it was all a dream. And, of course, 'Faze' would make refreshingly short work of it for these tired fingers.
posted by troybob at 9:05 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by troybob at 9:05 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Pile on on the non believer! BURN HIM! BURRRNN HIMMMM!
posted by cavalier at 9:06 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by cavalier at 9:06 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
It always intrigues me to hear people say that McCain was not so bad until things started going south for him in this campaign. To me, he pretty much sold his shriveled soul when he backed the Military Commissions Act in 2006. And I suspect in wouldn't be too difficult to find earlier examples of blatant electioneering.
I'm deducing that by "people" you meant me, so I'll elaborate my position from upthread: the thought of a McCain win didn't make my stomach turn over with bile and fear the way the thought of a Bush win (and the subsequent win itself) did in 2004.
The Military Commissions Act was practically a party line vote -- even some (morally devoid) Dem senators voted for it. I personally wouldn't hold McCain's feet to that fire, as a candidate.
Again, if you look at the spirit of my comment, my point is that of all the R candidates for the D candidate to lose to, Pre-Convention McCain was not that bad.
Anyone who isn't quite sure about that ought to ponder the horror of a Huckabee-Palin ticket.
I'd be stocking my bunker instead of typing here, pretty much.
posted by pineapple at 9:07 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I'm deducing that by "people" you meant me, so I'll elaborate my position from upthread: the thought of a McCain win didn't make my stomach turn over with bile and fear the way the thought of a Bush win (and the subsequent win itself) did in 2004.
The Military Commissions Act was practically a party line vote -- even some (morally devoid) Dem senators voted for it. I personally wouldn't hold McCain's feet to that fire, as a candidate.
Again, if you look at the spirit of my comment, my point is that of all the R candidates for the D candidate to lose to, Pre-Convention McCain was not that bad.
Anyone who isn't quite sure about that ought to ponder the horror of a Huckabee-Palin ticket.
I'd be stocking my bunker instead of typing here, pretty much.
posted by pineapple at 9:07 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
ponder the horror of a Huckabee-Palin ticketOh, god. Thank you for putting things into perspective, pineapple.
posted by MrMoonPie at 9:11 AM on October 15, 2008
Pile on on the non believer! BURN HIM! BURRRNN HIMMMM!
Weak. Kneejerk.
There are places at MeFi where the political minority gets unfairly piled on, but this isn't one of them. People are refuting Faze's points line by line, with facts and considered points of view.
That is was an ill-thought comment in the first place doesn't make its rebuttal a witch hunt.
posted by pineapple at 9:11 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Weak. Kneejerk.
There are places at MeFi where the political minority gets unfairly piled on, but this isn't one of them. People are refuting Faze's points line by line, with facts and considered points of view.
That is was an ill-thought comment in the first place doesn't make its rebuttal a witch hunt.
posted by pineapple at 9:11 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
It always intrigues me to hear people say that McCain was not so bad until things started going south for him in this campaign. To me, he pretty much sold his shriveled soul when he backed the Military Commissions Act in 2006. And I suspect in wouldn't be too difficult to find earlier examples of blatant electioneering.
Maverick, my ass.
Make Believe Maverick: The Real John McCain
posted by Caduceus at 9:18 AM on October 15, 2008
Maverick, my ass.
Make Believe Maverick: The Real John McCain
posted by Caduceus at 9:18 AM on October 15, 2008
Besides, why not mock McCain's campaign when they seem to invite it by acting like we're all idiots?
(f'ing hilarious)
posted by fourcheesemac at 9:22 AM on October 15, 2008
(f'ing hilarious)
posted by fourcheesemac at 9:22 AM on October 15, 2008
My mother still complains about Huckabee not being on the ticket. She likes Palin but dislikes McCain. I just hope she'll stay home this year.
posted by emjaybee at 9:28 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by emjaybee at 9:28 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I didn't laugh ...
... until she shot BAMBI!
(behind the door - after poisoning Couric)
posted by Surfurrus at 9:30 AM on October 15, 2008
... until she shot BAMBI!
(behind the door - after poisoning Couric)
posted by Surfurrus at 9:30 AM on October 15, 2008
I looked at this thing last night before I went to bed and though it was kinda amusing, but a bit over the top, too mean spirited, and certainly something that could be used to hurt Obama'a cause. I guess I was having a moment of feeling a bit sorry for Sarah Palin, being so far out of her league and surrounded by handlers who've forced her into being the absurd attack dog on the ticket.
Then this morning I heard some of Palin's speech in NH where she was shamelessly whipping up the crowd about this fake "voter fraud" scandal. Instantly I'm pissed off again and have no mercy for her or John McCain, and I just want to see both lose badly and slink away into obscurity.
posted by tula at 9:31 AM on October 15, 2008
Then this morning I heard some of Palin's speech in NH where she was shamelessly whipping up the crowd about this fake "voter fraud" scandal. Instantly I'm pissed off again and have no mercy for her or John McCain, and I just want to see both lose badly and slink away into obscurity.
posted by tula at 9:31 AM on October 15, 2008
pineapple, I remember some talking head describing McCain's support of the Military Commissions Act as tantamount to the "good housekeeping seal of approval" - in other words, if McCain, who, in case you didn't know, was actually himself TORTURED, actually supports this bill, then it must be on morally sure footing. To me, it seemed like he was clearly being the good little obedient next-in-line, behaving himself so as to better place himself to win the nomination.
Which, as near as I can tell, is also the rationale behind his choice of VP.
I'm not trying to dredge up the torture debate again, except to say that the man allowed HIS torture to be politicized for his own electoral advantage. So it's difficult to see how he's not quite as bad as some of the other wingnuts.
And do you really think that, had Huckabee been on the top of the ticket, Palin would have been the choice? The people she appeals to would have been satisfied with Huckabee - he could have gotten away with Tom Ridge, for example.
posted by fingers_of_fire at 9:31 AM on October 15, 2008
Which, as near as I can tell, is also the rationale behind his choice of VP.
I'm not trying to dredge up the torture debate again, except to say that the man allowed HIS torture to be politicized for his own electoral advantage. So it's difficult to see how he's not quite as bad as some of the other wingnuts.
And do you really think that, had Huckabee been on the top of the ticket, Palin would have been the choice? The people she appeals to would have been satisfied with Huckabee - he could have gotten away with Tom Ridge, for example.
posted by fingers_of_fire at 9:31 AM on October 15, 2008
the horror of a Huckabee-Palin ticket
Actually, after seeing the past few months of McCain, I'm actually not sure which ticket would be worse. The hothead who can't even control his temper, message or campaign let alone the biggest military on the planet or the mild-mannered theocrat.
posted by DU at 9:33 AM on October 15, 2008
Actually, after seeing the past few months of McCain, I'm actually not sure which ticket would be worse. The hothead who can't even control his temper, message or campaign let alone the biggest military on the planet or the mild-mannered theocrat.
posted by DU at 9:33 AM on October 15, 2008
Is this some sort of viral for Myst VI?
I sincerely HOPE it's a viral for Missed VP, but I'm still not confident.
posted by The Bellman at 9:41 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I sincerely HOPE it's a viral for Missed VP, but I'm still not confident.
posted by The Bellman at 9:41 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
She likes Palin but dislikes McCain. I just hope she'll stay home this year.
My grandmother--who has never voted for a Republican in her life, and would elevate anyone named "Clinton" to sainthood on breeding alone--insists that she'll leave the country if Obama is elected (actually, she calls him "Obana"), and that she wants to vote for "Pauline" (she gets a little confused sometimes). She "doesn't trust" Obana and doesn't think his wife is qualified to be first lady (I swear I am not making that up), and also why doesn't he ever talk about his white family?
Please stay home, Nana.
posted by uncleozzy at 9:44 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
My grandmother--who has never voted for a Republican in her life, and would elevate anyone named "Clinton" to sainthood on breeding alone--insists that she'll leave the country if Obama is elected (actually, she calls him "Obana"), and that she wants to vote for "Pauline" (she gets a little confused sometimes). She "doesn't trust" Obana and doesn't think his wife is qualified to be first lady (I swear I am not making that up), and also why doesn't he ever talk about his white family?
Please stay home, Nana.
posted by uncleozzy at 9:44 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Pile on on the non believer! BURN HIM! BURRRNN HIMMMM!
Yes, people. Stop pointing out the horrid misstep someone made because it was hamfisted and poorly executed. GIVE TEH STUPID A BREAK.
Like we do with W.
posted by grubi at 9:44 AM on October 15, 2008
Yes, people. Stop pointing out the horrid misstep someone made because it was hamfisted and poorly executed. GIVE TEH STUPID A BREAK.
Like we do with W.
posted by grubi at 9:44 AM on October 15, 2008
Who is "Palinas President"... is that like some banana republic dictatorship?
Seriously, nice execution, and refreshing.
posted by crapmatic at 9:47 AM on October 15, 2008
Seriously, nice execution, and refreshing.
posted by crapmatic at 9:47 AM on October 15, 2008
That's nuthin'. My dad complains Giuliani didn't win the primary.
posted by yeti at 9:48 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by yeti at 9:48 AM on October 15, 2008
Everybody's making fun of Palin because she just keeps giving them material. I find some of it deeply offensive:
- VPILF - very degrading.
- People who criticize her because she has a high-profile, high-pressure, and, oh yeah, high-paying, high-status job, even though she has a bunch of kids, including a child with a handicap? Screw you. Equality means Equal, not Equal When It's Convenient.
- Her kids' names - so what, they're just as valid as George Herbert Walker Bush and he got to be President. Just as valid as Barack Hussein Obama, and he might be our next president. Leave the kids out of it.
- her makeup, clothes, etc. Give women a freaking break, willya? As long as she's dressed normally, can we just not scrutinize women so hard for trivial crap?
But she's fair game on:
- Her lack of articulation.
- Her lack of intellectual curiosity.
- Her disregard for facts.
- Her lack of knowledge & experience
- Her supreme, unjustified confidence.
- Her lack of ethics.
- Her mannerisms; all politicians have mannerisms, and they all get mocked. Obama's ears are a gift to cartoonists. Palin doesn't get to be exempt.
She just keeps opening her mouth, and saying the most outrageous crap. It would require way more self-control than is reasonable to not mock her. The site is mildly amusing, and I didn't find it mean, certainly not "foul." Does Gov. Palin not own Big Girl Panties? Time to put 'em on, Gov.
posted by theora55 at 10:07 AM on October 15, 2008 [11 favorites]
- VPILF - very degrading.
- People who criticize her because she has a high-profile, high-pressure, and, oh yeah, high-paying, high-status job, even though she has a bunch of kids, including a child with a handicap? Screw you. Equality means Equal, not Equal When It's Convenient.
- Her kids' names - so what, they're just as valid as George Herbert Walker Bush and he got to be President. Just as valid as Barack Hussein Obama, and he might be our next president. Leave the kids out of it.
- her makeup, clothes, etc. Give women a freaking break, willya? As long as she's dressed normally, can we just not scrutinize women so hard for trivial crap?
But she's fair game on:
- Her lack of articulation.
- Her lack of intellectual curiosity.
- Her disregard for facts.
- Her lack of knowledge & experience
- Her supreme, unjustified confidence.
- Her lack of ethics.
- Her mannerisms; all politicians have mannerisms, and they all get mocked. Obama's ears are a gift to cartoonists. Palin doesn't get to be exempt.
She just keeps opening her mouth, and saying the most outrageous crap. It would require way more self-control than is reasonable to not mock her. The site is mildly amusing, and I didn't find it mean, certainly not "foul." Does Gov. Palin not own Big Girl Panties? Time to put 'em on, Gov.
posted by theora55 at 10:07 AM on October 15, 2008 [11 favorites]
>>That's nuthin'. My dad complains Giuliani didn't win the primary.
I wouldn't have been riled by Giuliani -- I believe him to be a RINO much like Romney. I think both those guys had made a career out of generally moderate leadership, and only when 2008 was on the horizon did they ramp up their neocon chops.
>> And do you really think that, had Huckabee been on the top of the ticket, Palin would have been the choice?
Probably not, but that goes away from the point that I found McCain less egregious a GOP candidate than Huckabee, vis-a-vis my own personal politics and what I could live with in the worst case scenario. (While Huckabee seems a decent human being -- standing up to racist politics by his supporters, supporting the mandates of charitable choice, etc. -- I don't agree with his positions on marriage, immigration, constitutional rights, and many other common social-issue party divisions. I care a lot about SCOTUS nominations and that affects my presidential support.)
posted by pineapple at 10:07 AM on October 15, 2008
I wouldn't have been riled by Giuliani -- I believe him to be a RINO much like Romney. I think both those guys had made a career out of generally moderate leadership, and only when 2008 was on the horizon did they ramp up their neocon chops.
>> And do you really think that, had Huckabee been on the top of the ticket, Palin would have been the choice?
Probably not, but that goes away from the point that I found McCain less egregious a GOP candidate than Huckabee, vis-a-vis my own personal politics and what I could live with in the worst case scenario. (While Huckabee seems a decent human being -- standing up to racist politics by his supporters, supporting the mandates of charitable choice, etc. -- I don't agree with his positions on marriage, immigration, constitutional rights, and many other common social-issue party divisions. I care a lot about SCOTUS nominations and that affects my presidential support.)
posted by pineapple at 10:07 AM on October 15, 2008
I have a follow-up question for Faze:
Okay, this site does poke mean-spirited fun at Palin. Yes, that's not nice. But - the Sacramento Republican Party used to have a bit on its site saying that Obama should be waterboarded.
And you're calling the DEMOCRATS Foul?
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:24 AM on October 15, 2008
Okay, this site does poke mean-spirited fun at Palin. Yes, that's not nice. But - the Sacramento Republican Party used to have a bit on its site saying that Obama should be waterboarded.
And you're calling the DEMOCRATS Foul?
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:24 AM on October 15, 2008
Jesus. Faze is so full of shit.
Yeah this is a lame Flash one off conceit. Oh my god. LIBRULS IZ EVIL!
AND it's precisely the kind of immature horseshit Republicans have been doing for over twenty years.
And they HAVE been winning elections. OM MY GOD MY THEORY SEEMED SO SOUND.
But sure that can't be becuase the GOP has been appealing to peoples lowest impulses and the lowest common denominator dipshit. No. Not that.
It must because of the secret GOP stealth campaign of respect, intelligence, and honest impulse to govern fairly. A campaign they MUST have been running UNDER all the shit about liberals being unpatriotic terrorist fagots.
AMIRITE!?
posted by tkchrist at 10:26 AM on October 15, 2008
Yeah this is a lame Flash one off conceit. Oh my god. LIBRULS IZ EVIL!
AND it's precisely the kind of immature horseshit Republicans have been doing for over twenty years.
And they HAVE been winning elections. OM MY GOD MY THEORY SEEMED SO SOUND.
But sure that can't be becuase the GOP has been appealing to peoples lowest impulses and the lowest common denominator dipshit. No. Not that.
It must because of the secret GOP stealth campaign of respect, intelligence, and honest impulse to govern fairly. A campaign they MUST have been running UNDER all the shit about liberals being unpatriotic terrorist fagots.
AMIRITE!?
posted by tkchrist at 10:26 AM on October 15, 2008
(behind the door - after poisoning Couric)
pretty sure Katie C. was getting waterboarded.
posted by Challahtronix at 10:27 AM on October 15, 2008
pretty sure Katie C. was getting waterboarded.
posted by Challahtronix at 10:27 AM on October 15, 2008
Who is "Palinas President"... is that like some banana republic dictatorship?
It's an old Eagles song...
"One prez of Palinas, in a bun is her hair..."
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:28 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
It's an old Eagles song...
"One prez of Palinas, in a bun is her hair..."
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:28 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
In case you missed fourcheesemac's link, it's pretty fantastic. I hope there's sufficient positive response to it that we can get, oh dare to hope, Palin herself showing up on stage in a squirrel-suit in the near future.
posted by Wolfdog at 10:35 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by Wolfdog at 10:35 AM on October 15, 2008
Most humor is based on negativity directed at someone else. Not always, as there's also self-deprecating humor. (Curious George taught me about humor, believe it nor not. That's one wise animated monkey!) I have no problem laughing at some Obama or Clinton or Biden stuff too, if it's funny. I'm an equal opportunity humor consumer. (Wow, what a rhyme!)
posted by jamstigator at 10:38 AM on October 15, 2008
posted by jamstigator at 10:38 AM on October 15, 2008
Yeah, Curious George taught me all I need to know about Republican "humor" too.
posted by fourcheesemac at 10:58 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by fourcheesemac at 10:58 AM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
arcanecrowbar: Thanks whoever made it.
According to this blog post, one of the the brains behind it is Steve Yee.
Oh wait, there's an update:
[UPDATE: I chatted with Steve, and wanted to give credit to the other two guys he worked with: Sean Ohlenkamp and Forrest Boleyn. Steve said he and Forrest had the idea, then approached Sean who brought it to life. As of the morning of 10/15, it has over a half million hits.]
posted by ceri richard at 11:29 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
According to this blog post, one of the the brains behind it is Steve Yee.
Oh wait, there's an update:
[UPDATE: I chatted with Steve, and wanted to give credit to the other two guys he worked with: Sean Ohlenkamp and Forrest Boleyn. Steve said he and Forrest had the idea, then approached Sean who brought it to life. As of the morning of 10/15, it has over a half million hits.]
posted by ceri richard at 11:29 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
She's scary!
the horror of a Huckabee-Palin ticket
"A couple of days ago I received a package from Juneau, Alaska — its ends taped over with duct tape several times over, my address written on a black magic marker, in a tight, clipped scrawl (without my name) and with no return address. The package smelled like bug spray...."
The horror goes much deeper than you imagine....
posted by Kronos_to_Earth at 11:33 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
the horror of a Huckabee-Palin ticket
"A couple of days ago I received a package from Juneau, Alaska — its ends taped over with duct tape several times over, my address written on a black magic marker, in a tight, clipped scrawl (without my name) and with no return address. The package smelled like bug spray...."
The horror goes much deeper than you imagine....
posted by Kronos_to_Earth at 11:33 AM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
And you're calling the DEMOCRATS Foul?
Yeah, I'd say equally foul in many cases:
posted by VicNebulous at 12:07 PM on October 15, 2008
My point was that we had one either trollish or sublimely mishanded comment (Faze) that ended up being the fodder for a metric ton of comments against him. I was just trying to say the first 10 or 15 probably did it and afterwords we could have just moved on. Calloo, callay, etc.
posted by cavalier at 12:13 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by cavalier at 12:13 PM on October 15, 2008
Yeah, Vic, that's totally the same thing as racism. Or threats of murder. Or torture.
(Oh wait, it's not.)
posted by grubi at 12:14 PM on October 15, 2008
(Oh wait, it's not.)
posted by grubi at 12:14 PM on October 15, 2008
I think we can all agree that any serious Presidential/VP candidate should be committed and that Sarah Palin should be committed.
posted by mazola at 12:25 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by mazola at 12:25 PM on October 15, 2008
A bit off topic from the article but....
If anyone hasn't seen the SNL Palin skits, youtube that. It's funny stuff. "And for all you college kids out there playing a drinking game..."Maverick!""
posted by premo at 12:31 PM on October 15, 2008
If anyone hasn't seen the SNL Palin skits, youtube that. It's funny stuff. "And for all you college kids out there playing a drinking game..."Maverick!""
posted by premo at 12:31 PM on October 15, 2008
Maverick was an amazing film - one of Mel Gibson's career highlights.
posted by HelloKitty at 12:32 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by HelloKitty at 12:32 PM on October 15, 2008
Atrus' long lost evil daughter!
I think you mean Atrios.
Talk about awkward family reunions.
Thank you, I'll be here all week. Please tip your waitress
posted by zippy at 12:33 PM on October 15, 2008
I think you mean Atrios.
Talk about awkward family reunions.
Thank you, I'll be here all week. Please tip your waitress
posted by zippy at 12:33 PM on October 15, 2008
i don't understand the hate-on for faze. this site is funny, yes - i got a few giggles out of it, at first, particularly the baby names on the wall. ("rake." heh)
but the more i looked at this the more uncomfortable i got. it's smug, it condescends, and it's frankly kind of sexist. it dredges up irrelevant things (miss wasilla? who cares?) and reduces the discussion to empty, tired cliches.
this is not caricature, which is sharp and pointed. this is ham-fisted and dull, and it appeals mainly to the tribe mentality. religious, backwards, uneducated yokel? check, check, and check. it feeds the bullshit "culture war" that has and continues to rip us apart. this is exactly the kind of thing that jon stewart was pleading with tucker carlson and paul begala to stop doing. as political commentary, this site is ugly, and so is this thread.
democrats, obama is winning this election because he has consistently refused to take the low road, and done his best to rein in those who would. he has talked quite admirably about a politics of unity, and it's working. it's working a lot better than the politics of division did in the presidential campaigns of 2000 and 2004 (elections which, had the democratic party not royally fucked it up by engaging in this kind of schoolyard bullshit that the more activist members of the party still continue to push, should have been easy to win).
i recognize that it's easy to get caught up in your support for the guy, but please try to remember what the man said. try to remember why you're voting for him lest you undermine the very message that got you here.
"The pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and have gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and patriots who supported it. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.."
remember that?
posted by sergeant sandwich at 12:33 PM on October 15, 2008 [5 favorites]
but the more i looked at this the more uncomfortable i got. it's smug, it condescends, and it's frankly kind of sexist. it dredges up irrelevant things (miss wasilla? who cares?) and reduces the discussion to empty, tired cliches.
this is not caricature, which is sharp and pointed. this is ham-fisted and dull, and it appeals mainly to the tribe mentality. religious, backwards, uneducated yokel? check, check, and check. it feeds the bullshit "culture war" that has and continues to rip us apart. this is exactly the kind of thing that jon stewart was pleading with tucker carlson and paul begala to stop doing. as political commentary, this site is ugly, and so is this thread.
democrats, obama is winning this election because he has consistently refused to take the low road, and done his best to rein in those who would. he has talked quite admirably about a politics of unity, and it's working. it's working a lot better than the politics of division did in the presidential campaigns of 2000 and 2004 (elections which, had the democratic party not royally fucked it up by engaging in this kind of schoolyard bullshit that the more activist members of the party still continue to push, should have been easy to win).
i recognize that it's easy to get caught up in your support for the guy, but please try to remember what the man said. try to remember why you're voting for him lest you undermine the very message that got you here.
"The pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and have gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and patriots who supported it. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.."
remember that?
posted by sergeant sandwich at 12:33 PM on October 15, 2008 [5 favorites]
Yeah, I'd say equally foul in many cases:
And there you have the world of Conservative moral equivalency. We threaten your life, and you call us a mean name, so we're even steven.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:35 PM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
And there you have the world of Conservative moral equivalency. We threaten your life, and you call us a mean name, so we're even steven.
posted by Astro Zombie at 12:35 PM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
This is the thing that I don't think Republicans have grokked yet:
You know what I haven't grokked yet? The verb "grok."
posted by pardonyou? at 12:46 PM on October 15, 2008
You know what I haven't grokked yet? The verb "grok."
posted by pardonyou? at 12:46 PM on October 15, 2008
theora55: can we just not scrutinize women so hard for trivial crap?
I agree with you in large part, but recheck your own consistency. Why are her "makeup, clothes, etc" considered "trivial crap" while her articulation and mannerisms and Obama's ears are in the "fair game" section? None of them say anything about the candidate's opinions, intelligence, or ethics. They're all under the wide umbrella of their public presentation, and frankly I do think that makes them relevant. A large part of the president's job is to be a public figure, and as frivolous and subjective as these qualities are they directly impact his or her performance at that job.
Ignoring that would be like casting Dame Judi Dench as the female lead in Basic Instinct, or Steve Buscemi as Neo in The Matrix.
posted by Riki tiki at 1:10 PM on October 15, 2008
I agree with you in large part, but recheck your own consistency. Why are her "makeup, clothes, etc" considered "trivial crap" while her articulation and mannerisms and Obama's ears are in the "fair game" section? None of them say anything about the candidate's opinions, intelligence, or ethics. They're all under the wide umbrella of their public presentation, and frankly I do think that makes them relevant. A large part of the president's job is to be a public figure, and as frivolous and subjective as these qualities are they directly impact his or her performance at that job.
Ignoring that would be like casting Dame Judi Dench as the female lead in Basic Instinct, or Steve Buscemi as Neo in The Matrix.
posted by Riki tiki at 1:10 PM on October 15, 2008
i recognize that it's easy to get caught up in your support for the guy, but please try to remember what the man said. try to remember why you're voting for him lest you undermine the very message that got you here.
Erm, I don't recall stating who I was voting for, or gave any party affiliation for why I took umbrage at Faze's comment.
In fact, I was entirely reacting to the "pot calling the Kettle black" nature of the complaint. Because you're right, this kind of partisan campaigning IS ugly -- and ideally, BOTH sides should cut it out.
But for someone from one party to critique partisan activity in another and stay mum about the partisan activity in their own is, to me, hypocrisy, and it was that hypocrisy I was calling out.
Moreover, there's ugliness, and then there's ugliness.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 1:14 PM on October 15, 2008
Erm, I don't recall stating who I was voting for, or gave any party affiliation for why I took umbrage at Faze's comment.
In fact, I was entirely reacting to the "pot calling the Kettle black" nature of the complaint. Because you're right, this kind of partisan campaigning IS ugly -- and ideally, BOTH sides should cut it out.
But for someone from one party to critique partisan activity in another and stay mum about the partisan activity in their own is, to me, hypocrisy, and it was that hypocrisy I was calling out.
Moreover, there's ugliness, and then there's ugliness.
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 1:14 PM on October 15, 2008
Ignoring that would be like casting Dame Judi Dench as the female lead in Basic Instinct,
...except, have you seen recent photos of her in a swimsuit? Rrrrrow!
Anyway, count me among those who find this much less offensive to every fiber of my being as I find "Obama as monkey!" and "Obama as 'muslin' terrorist!" attacks from the right.
posted by availablelight at 1:18 PM on October 15, 2008
This is an ugly thread.
posted by MarshallPoe at 1:38 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by MarshallPoe at 1:38 PM on October 15, 2008
I just got a conservative chain email comparing Palin to Teddy Roosevelt. I'm still trying to recover from the cognitive dissonance of that.
posted by Pope Gustafson I at 1:39 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by Pope Gustafson I at 1:39 PM on October 15, 2008
...has the middle name of a dead dictator who's head popped off when we hung him.
This made me go wha?
Apparently, the "popped off" head belonged to Saddam's half-brother.
posted by stinkycheese at 1:54 PM on October 15, 2008
This made me go wha?
Apparently, the "popped off" head belonged to Saddam's half-brother.
posted by stinkycheese at 1:54 PM on October 15, 2008
There would never be an equivalent page about Obama because that would be racist. PERIOD.Sexist attacks, though, seem to be getting through just fine.
I keep finding myself in the appalling position of having to defend the woman from that sort of nonsense. There are so many legitimate reasons she's unqualified for the job, why do so many people have to resort to skeevy objectification?
posted by Karmakaze at 1:54 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
No amount of silly flash sites are going to make me any less freaked the fuck out about this woman being one election and one heart attack away from being the president.
I can't even begin to articulate how much that concept scares the ever loving shit out of me.
posted by quin at 2:07 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I can't even begin to articulate how much that concept scares the ever loving shit out of me.
posted by quin at 2:07 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I realize that some of you might be objecting to sexism towards Palin Out There, but In Here, I don't see where MeFites have been sexist in this thread. I don't see anything sexist in the Flash game either, unless you count her children's names.
I don't care that she's female; I care that she's a provincial God-Squad race-baiter who stoops to the lowest common denominator and actively tries to glorify her own lack of skills and knowledge.
The only time I care that Sarah Palin is female is when she herself, or the McCain team, use it as gamesmanship, alternately positioning her as Sarahcuda and the delicate flower who can't handle the press because she's just a GIRL and everyone should STOP PICKING ON HER.
In fact, I only think that the dumb lipstick is an issue because Palin herself drew attention to the word with her dumb bulldog meme.
>>Ignoring that would be like casting Dame Judi Dench as the female lead in Basic Instinct,
>>...except, have you seen recent photos of her in a swimsuit? Rrrrrow!
I don't think you're thinking of Judi Dench, but Helen Mirren.
MY GOD, MAN, NOT JUDI DENCH! HELEN MIRREN!
posted by pineapple at 2:09 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I don't care that she's female; I care that she's a provincial God-Squad race-baiter who stoops to the lowest common denominator and actively tries to glorify her own lack of skills and knowledge.
The only time I care that Sarah Palin is female is when she herself, or the McCain team, use it as gamesmanship, alternately positioning her as Sarahcuda and the delicate flower who can't handle the press because she's just a GIRL and everyone should STOP PICKING ON HER.
In fact, I only think that the dumb lipstick is an issue because Palin herself drew attention to the word with her dumb bulldog meme.
>>Ignoring that would be like casting Dame Judi Dench as the female lead in Basic Instinct,
>>...except, have you seen recent photos of her in a swimsuit? Rrrrrow!
I don't think you're thinking of Judi Dench, but Helen Mirren.
MY GOD, MAN, NOT JUDI DENCH! HELEN MIRREN!
posted by pineapple at 2:09 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
I don't think you're thinking of Judi Dench, but Helen Mirren.
MY GOD, MAN, NOT JUDI DENCH! HELEN MIRREN!
Hells bells, I stand corrected. I guess I can't keep my "British costume drama" ladies straight.
posted by availablelight at 2:34 PM on October 15, 2008 [2 favorites]
this is not caricature, which is sharp and pointed. this is ham-fisted and dull, and it appeals mainly to the tribe mentality. religious, backwards, uneducated yokel? check, check, and check. it feeds the bullshit "culture war" that has and continues to rip us apart. this is exactly the kind of thing that jon stewart was pleading with tucker carlson and paul begala to stop doing. as political commentary, this site is ugly, and so is this thread.
To each his own, I guess. I do see the PalinAsPresident site as sharp and pointed (maybe you think big cartoony ears are a better example of the art form?).
I think you're dead wrong re the culture war. Is it a bad thing, this "us vs. them, the rednecks vs. the elitists" polarization? Overall, everyday, as the national language - sure.
But there is actually a time and place for it, and that's here and now. When a candidate who is utterly unqualified is asking to be the second most powerful official in the most powerful country on the planet -- that's exactly when the tactics of the culture war should be acceptable.
That's exactly when people are supposed to raise their hands and say, "Hey, we could tolerate that guy who couldn't spell 'potato.' It happens. We could tolerate that guy who made up words; in fact, we tolerated him twice, and laughed it off and said 'nucular' and 'strategery' because it was funny, and we believed that underneath, he at least knew what he was intending to get across. We tolerated all these other things, and we even embraced them as 'folksy' and genuine'. But THIS... this is too much. Now you're asking too much of us. She's not qualified to hold this job."
The true pity of the culture war is that it has allowed the neocons to constantly accuse their opponents of crying wolf: that liberals can't relate to "jes folks, the common man, Joe Six Pack," that smears are substance, that talking about religion or education or ideology is somehow oppressive, that lowering the standards for our elected officials is just fine, there there.
Only now the real wolf is here, and she is the worst-case scenario -- and the progressives are sounding the alarm, and being rebuked for it, because we've been conditioned to cower in a puddle of self-flagellation any time we point out that the church actually should be kept out of the state... that seeing planes fly over doesn't equate to foreign policy experience... that not being able to name a single SCOTUS case besides Roe v. Wade isn't qualification to preside over a Supreme Court nominee's confirmation hearings in the U.S. Senate.
That it wasn't "as bad as it is now" before, doesn't mean it isn't actually that bad. Because it is.
posted by pineapple at 2:38 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
To each his own, I guess. I do see the PalinAsPresident site as sharp and pointed (maybe you think big cartoony ears are a better example of the art form?).
I think you're dead wrong re the culture war. Is it a bad thing, this "us vs. them, the rednecks vs. the elitists" polarization? Overall, everyday, as the national language - sure.
But there is actually a time and place for it, and that's here and now. When a candidate who is utterly unqualified is asking to be the second most powerful official in the most powerful country on the planet -- that's exactly when the tactics of the culture war should be acceptable.
That's exactly when people are supposed to raise their hands and say, "Hey, we could tolerate that guy who couldn't spell 'potato.' It happens. We could tolerate that guy who made up words; in fact, we tolerated him twice, and laughed it off and said 'nucular' and 'strategery' because it was funny, and we believed that underneath, he at least knew what he was intending to get across. We tolerated all these other things, and we even embraced them as 'folksy' and genuine'. But THIS... this is too much. Now you're asking too much of us. She's not qualified to hold this job."
The true pity of the culture war is that it has allowed the neocons to constantly accuse their opponents of crying wolf: that liberals can't relate to "jes folks, the common man, Joe Six Pack," that smears are substance, that talking about religion or education or ideology is somehow oppressive, that lowering the standards for our elected officials is just fine, there there.
Only now the real wolf is here, and she is the worst-case scenario -- and the progressives are sounding the alarm, and being rebuked for it, because we've been conditioned to cower in a puddle of self-flagellation any time we point out that the church actually should be kept out of the state... that seeing planes fly over doesn't equate to foreign policy experience... that not being able to name a single SCOTUS case besides Roe v. Wade isn't qualification to preside over a Supreme Court nominee's confirmation hearings in the U.S. Senate.
That it wasn't "as bad as it is now" before, doesn't mean it isn't actually that bad. Because it is.
posted by pineapple at 2:38 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Only now the real wolf is here,
and (metaphorically speaking) we need to shoot it from a plane.
posted by Wolfdog at 2:49 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
and (metaphorically speaking) we need to shoot it from a plane.
posted by Wolfdog at 2:49 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
pretty sure Katie C. was getting waterboarded.
Hawt.
posted by rokusan at 2:59 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Hawt.
posted by rokusan at 2:59 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Please stay home, Nana.
Is this like the negative of the Great Schlep?
posted by Mental Wimp at 3:20 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
Is this like the negative of the Great Schlep?
posted by Mental Wimp at 3:20 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
remember that?
Yeah, Sarge, that was great, and Sarah Palin represents the opposite of that. And she is actually those things she was depicted to be and proud of it. It's the thing that's so horrendous about her. She uses her Miss Wasilla title as part of her promo (at least her surrogates do). The stands lampooned are exactly the ones that appeal to her demographic and are the ones she was chosen for. Obama's exhortation is a call to not chop us up using those sleazy wedge issues, but to pull together to fix the real problems he identifies.
posted by Mental Wimp at 3:44 PM on October 15, 2008
Yeah, Sarge, that was great, and Sarah Palin represents the opposite of that. And she is actually those things she was depicted to be and proud of it. It's the thing that's so horrendous about her. She uses her Miss Wasilla title as part of her promo (at least her surrogates do). The stands lampooned are exactly the ones that appeal to her demographic and are the ones she was chosen for. Obama's exhortation is a call to not chop us up using those sleazy wedge issues, but to pull together to fix the real problems he identifies.
posted by Mental Wimp at 3:44 PM on October 15, 2008
it feeds the bullshit "culture war" that has and continues to rip us apart.
... You know what feeds the bullshit culture war? When a person is nominated for the Vice Presidency based on not any actual credentials, but on their status as a culture warrior.
That being said, comments about her childrens' names seem especially petty coming from people voting for a man named Barack.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 4:01 PM on October 15, 2008
... You know what feeds the bullshit culture war? When a person is nominated for the Vice Presidency based on not any actual credentials, but on their status as a culture warrior.
That being said, comments about her childrens' names seem especially petty coming from people voting for a man named Barack.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 4:01 PM on October 15, 2008
Riki tiki, because nobody ever comments on the male candidates' clothing. The bullshit from Fauxnews about the Newsweek cover is stupid. She had a photo on the cover a news magazine. But Huffington commenting on her use of blush pissed me off because it's typical to wear more makeup on stage, and it seemed trivial and because it's a cheap shot.
posted by theora55 at 4:04 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by theora55 at 4:04 PM on October 15, 2008
Lampooning the powerful in such a manner as this is legitimized by its long and established heritage.
Quod non fecerunt Barbari
fecerunt Barberini.
posted by Haruspex at 4:04 PM on October 15, 2008
Quod non fecerunt Barbari
fecerunt Barberini.
posted by Haruspex at 4:04 PM on October 15, 2008
Palin was nominated for the VP slot based on factors having nothing to do with her qualifications for that position. so it is disingenuous to complain that she is being criticized for factors that have nothing to do with her qualifications for that position--particularly when those factors are ones that she is using to sell herself--including her family, her personal decisions with regard to family, her femininity, and her personal appearance. These are things that she has introduced into the conversation, and they are things she has used in place of a truthful discussion of her ability, experience, and perspective. Criticism of them might not be pretty, but neither is her exploitation of them.
posted by troybob at 4:19 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by troybob at 4:19 PM on October 15, 2008
(And yeah, that includes the names of her children. Track, Trig, and Bristol are names you give to your children not for their own sake, but for your own.)
posted by troybob at 4:21 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by troybob at 4:21 PM on October 15, 2008
This is the thing that I don't think Republicans have grokked yet:
You know what I haven't grokked yet? The verb "grok."
Well, tanj. At least it's faster to type than "have ascertained a holistic understanding of."
posted by rokusan at 4:37 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
You know what I haven't grokked yet? The verb "grok."
Well, tanj. At least it's faster to type than "have ascertained a holistic understanding of."
posted by rokusan at 4:37 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
and (metaphorically speaking) we need to shoot it from a plane.
I say we take off, and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
posted by BrotherCaine at 5:37 PM on October 15, 2008
I say we take off, and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
posted by BrotherCaine at 5:37 PM on October 15, 2008
Sometimes when you spin the globe she says "Iranistan".
I had lunch today at a little Vietnamese place on Iranistan Street in Bridgeport, CT. I then took a little drive around the area with a coworker who grew up there. I learned that PT Barnum was from Bridgeport.
I still wondered how the street got named Iranistan. Turns out: Iranistan was a Moorish Revival mansion in Bridgeport, Connecticut that was built by P. T. Barnum in 1848. At this "beautiful country seat"[1] Barnum played host to such famous contemporaries as Matthew Arnold, George Custer, Horace Greeley, and Mark Twain.[2] The grandiose structure survived only a decade before being destroyed by fire in 1857[3] in one of five such fires in the showman's life that "burned to the ground all his accomplishments".[4]
We gotta move next year when my wife completes her residency and we get kicked out of the staff housing. Assuming I'm still working up in CT, we were thinking of moving there. I spent some time the other weekend looking at real estate listings. About the only houses below a half a mil (!) in Fairfield County are in Bridgeport. That town has a huge beach, a big train station, ferry service, a college (granted, owned by the Moonies), a couple big hospitals, and even decent Pho - and is still a pit. My coworker suspected it would have a renaissance in another 30 years. You heard it here first - who wants to go in with me converting a warehouse or factory to lofts?
posted by These Premises Are Alarmed at 5:45 PM on October 15, 2008
I had lunch today at a little Vietnamese place on Iranistan Street in Bridgeport, CT. I then took a little drive around the area with a coworker who grew up there. I learned that PT Barnum was from Bridgeport.
I still wondered how the street got named Iranistan. Turns out: Iranistan was a Moorish Revival mansion in Bridgeport, Connecticut that was built by P. T. Barnum in 1848. At this "beautiful country seat"[1] Barnum played host to such famous contemporaries as Matthew Arnold, George Custer, Horace Greeley, and Mark Twain.[2] The grandiose structure survived only a decade before being destroyed by fire in 1857[3] in one of five such fires in the showman's life that "burned to the ground all his accomplishments".[4]
We gotta move next year when my wife completes her residency and we get kicked out of the staff housing. Assuming I'm still working up in CT, we were thinking of moving there. I spent some time the other weekend looking at real estate listings. About the only houses below a half a mil (!) in Fairfield County are in Bridgeport. That town has a huge beach, a big train station, ferry service, a college (granted, owned by the Moonies), a couple big hospitals, and even decent Pho - and is still a pit. My coworker suspected it would have a renaissance in another 30 years. You heard it here first - who wants to go in with me converting a warehouse or factory to lofts?
posted by These Premises Are Alarmed at 5:45 PM on October 15, 2008
So how do I pick up the sniper rifle that fell out of the drapes?
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 10:10 PM on October 15, 2008
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 10:10 PM on October 15, 2008
Sometimes when you spin the globe she says "Iranistan".
I like "Somethingstan" best. That was the only real laugh I found here.
posted by rokusan at 11:14 PM on October 15, 2008
I like "Somethingstan" best. That was the only real laugh I found here.
posted by rokusan at 11:14 PM on October 15, 2008
How do we know her name isn't 'Paling'. I mean, we're just taking her word for it, yeah?
posted by mazola at 11:36 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by mazola at 11:36 PM on October 15, 2008 [1 favorite]
How do you get the dinosaurs to appear? I've opened all the drapes and the window.
posted by Locative at 12:00 AM on October 16, 2008
posted by Locative at 12:00 AM on October 16, 2008
Pile on on the non believer! BURN HIM! BURRRNN HIMMMM!
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt for a missed Charlie the Unicorn reference.
It goes:
Shun the non believer! Shunn! SHHHUUNNNNN! SSSSSSSSHSHHHHHSSUUUUNNNN!
Unless you are actually advocating burning somebody. In that case, to hell with you.
posted by clearly at 1:32 AM on October 16, 2008
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt for a missed Charlie the Unicorn reference.
It goes:
Shun the non believer! Shunn! SHHHUUNNNNN! SSSSSSSSHSHHHHHSSUUUUNNNN!
Unless you are actually advocating burning somebody. In that case, to hell with you.
posted by clearly at 1:32 AM on October 16, 2008
How do you get the dinosaurs to appear? I've opened all the drapes and the window.
A dinosaur just kind of moseys across in the background after a minute or so.
posted by clearly at 1:34 AM on October 16, 2008
A dinosaur just kind of moseys across in the background after a minute or so.
posted by clearly at 1:34 AM on October 16, 2008
This is the thing that I don't think Republicans have grokked yet:
You know what I haven't grokked yet? The verb "grok."
posted by pardonyou? at 12:46 PM on October 15 [+] [!]
Let me help you with that:
Grok @ AHD
Grok @ Wikipedia
Grok @ FOLDOC
Grok @ Whatis?
Grok @ urban dictionary
Grok @ te goog ( 2,360,000 hits)
Seems pretty cromulent to me. In use since 1961 or so, more than 40 years longer than, say, /blog/.
Yadig?
posted by Herodios at 6:45 AM on October 16, 2008 [1 favorite]
You know what I haven't grokked yet? The verb "grok."
posted by pardonyou? at 12:46 PM on October 15 [+] [!]
Let me help you with that:
Grok @ AHD
Grok @ Wikipedia
Grok @ FOLDOC
Grok @ Whatis?
Grok @ urban dictionary
Grok @ te goog ( 2,360,000 hits)
Seems pretty cromulent to me. In use since 1961 or so, more than 40 years longer than, say, /blog/.
Yadig?
posted by Herodios at 6:45 AM on October 16, 2008 [1 favorite]
"Updated daily until Nov 4" it says.
Try clicking on the near corner of the desktop for a late addition.
Then click on the red phone while it's ringing.
*uh oh *
posted by Herodios at 7:01 AM on October 16, 2008
Try clicking on the near corner of the desktop for a late addition.
Then click on the red phone while it's ringing.
*uh oh *
posted by Herodios at 7:01 AM on October 16, 2008
Seems pretty cromulent to me. In use since 1961 or so, more than 40 years longer than, say, /blog/.
Yadig?
Yeah, I get it -- Heinlein, all that. I was pretty much making a funny, although I really don't like the word, personally -- the sound, the in-club connotations. But that's just one guy's opinion...
Back on topic, I see that Joe the Plumber's van now makes an appearnce outside the oval office!
posted by pardonyou? at 7:34 AM on October 16, 2008
Yadig?
Yeah, I get it -- Heinlein, all that. I was pretty much making a funny, although I really don't like the word, personally -- the sound, the in-club connotations. But that's just one guy's opinion...
Back on topic, I see that Joe the Plumber's van now makes an appearnce outside the oval office!
posted by pardonyou? at 7:34 AM on October 16, 2008
I really don't like the word, personally -- the sound, the in-club connotations. But that's just one guy's opinion...
Seen.
It's pretty old-school by now though, not exactly the hippest of in-clubs.
Back on topic, I see that Joe the Plumber's van now makes an appearnce outside the oval office!
Yeah. "To be updated daily." Wish they'd done a bit more with it.
BTW, try the red phone trick with the lights out.
posted by Herodios at 8:27 AM on October 16, 2008
Seen.
It's pretty old-school by now though, not exactly the hippest of in-clubs.
Back on topic, I see that Joe the Plumber's van now makes an appearnce outside the oval office!
Yeah. "To be updated daily." Wish they'd done a bit more with it.
BTW, try the red phone trick with the lights out.
posted by Herodios at 8:27 AM on October 16, 2008
It's pretty old-school by now though, not exactly the hippest of in-clubs.
I was not born when the Heinlein book came out, and usually forget that that is the source. Plus, am the opposite of "hip," so it is safe to assume that I was not trying to be exclusive by using the word "grok".
posted by pineapple at 8:56 AM on October 16, 2008
I was not born when the Heinlein book came out, and usually forget that that is the source. Plus, am the opposite of "hip," so it is safe to assume that I was not trying to be exclusive by using the word "grok".
posted by pineapple at 8:56 AM on October 16, 2008
How do we know her name isn't 'Paling'. I mean, we're just taking her word for it, yeah?
Back in the early '80s, a rather pop-deprived friend new I was a fan of Texas outlaw country & western, and noticed one of my favorite acts was coming to town. She brightly announced that she noticed Whaling Jennings was coming to town!
posted by Mental Wimp at 9:00 AM on October 16, 2008
Back in the early '80s, a rather pop-deprived friend new I was a fan of Texas outlaw country & western, and noticed one of my favorite acts was coming to town. She brightly announced that she noticed Whaling Jennings was coming to town!
posted by Mental Wimp at 9:00 AM on October 16, 2008
"new"? Oh, yeah, I got a not to answer for.
posted by Mental Wimp at 9:02 AM on October 16, 2008
posted by Mental Wimp at 9:02 AM on October 16, 2008
Not all MeFites use favorites to indicate approval of a comment. Some use them to track assholish comments for future reference.
Favourites used like index cards. Should have thought of possiblities as geeky as that around here.
posted by opsin at 10:01 AM on October 16, 2008
Favourites used like index cards. Should have thought of possiblities as geeky as that around here.
posted by opsin at 10:01 AM on October 16, 2008
Just found this, 'tempted to post it, but methinks a single YouTube link wouldn't go over so well.
posted by bluedaniel at 10:25 AM on October 16, 2008
posted by bluedaniel at 10:25 AM on October 16, 2008
This morning palinaspresident.com had "Joe the Plumber" truck pulling up. Seems to be gone now, replaced with "Wolf Kills" on the desk. Any ideas why this would be the case?
posted by cjorgensen at 12:53 PM on October 16, 2008
posted by cjorgensen at 12:53 PM on October 16, 2008
Ok, click her desk in the lower right after opening the window shades. You get Joe.
posted by cjorgensen at 1:22 PM on October 16, 2008
posted by cjorgensen at 1:22 PM on October 16, 2008
Actually, if you look closely, I think you can see drips falling on the desk, which creates a little puddle. It's the puddle you click on to summon Plumber Joe. (And I don't think the shades need to be open).
posted by pardonyou? at 1:34 PM on October 16, 2008
posted by pardonyou? at 1:34 PM on October 16, 2008
Speaking of "Joe" the Plumber, it looks like someone has been scouting him out (check the 2nd comment on article in the link). Appears he's not really named Joe, hasn't had a plumber's license since 2002, and is related to Charles Keating. Repugnican operative?
posted by Mental Wimp at 2:26 PM on October 16, 2008
posted by Mental Wimp at 2:26 PM on October 16, 2008
A lot more on "Joe Sam the [Unlicensed] Plumber Who Owes Back Taxes" in this thread, including ....
“Wurzelbacher first came to attention over the weekend, when he engaged Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, in a six-minute discussion of tax policy at a rally in Holland, Ohio. He told Obama that he was a plumber and was hoping to buy his boss’s business, which he said made $250,000 to $280,000 a year. He was concerned, he said, that Obama’s economic proposals would mean he’d be kicked into a higher tax bracket.posted by ericb at 3:42 PM on October 16, 2008 [2 favorites]
…Legally speaking, Wurzelbacher isn’t a plumber, because he isn’t licensed by Toledo, Lucas County or the state of Ohio. A representative of the Toledo Building Inspection Division said a plumber must be registered with the state and only then can apply for a city plumbing contractor’s license.
Wurzelbacher said he worked under the license held by his boss, Al Newell of Newell Plumbing and Heating Co. of Toledo. Newell is a licensed plumbing contractor in Toledo, records show. But anyone working under Newell should have a journeyman’s plumbing license or an apprenticeship license, officials said.
Building Inspection officials said Newell was responsible for making sure that anyone working under him was licensed. The Toledo Plumbing Board of Control may consider sanctions against Wurzelbacher or Newell, officials told NBC affiliate WNWO of Toledo.
‘There’s a lot I’ve got to learn’ about the plumbing business, Wurzelbacher said Thursday.
Wurzelbacher also acknowledged that he had no specific plans for buying Newell’s business, saying he and Newell had simply talked about the idea from time to time. He might have difficulty making the purchase: Court records from his divorce show that Wurzelbacher made $40,000 in 2006.
Even if he did buy Newell Plumbing and Heating, Obama’s tax plan wouldn’t affect him. While Wurzelbacher told Obama that the business would be taxed at a higher rate because it grossed more than $250,000 a year, Ohio business records show the company’s estimated total annual revenue as only $100,000.
In any event, Obama’s tax plan specifies that the higher rate would apply only to revenue above the $250,000 threshold. For a company with revenue of $280,000, the top end of Wurzelbacher’s supposition, only the extra $30,000 would be taxed at a higher rate.
Analysts calculated that the extra tax would amount to $900, which would likely be more than offset by separate provisions of Obama’s plan: a 50 percent tax credit for health care and elimination of the capital gains tax for small businesses.”
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posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:54 AM on October 17, 2008
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 5:54 AM on October 17, 2008
Strawman creation by McCain campaign: EPIC FAIL
posted by Mental Wimp at 7:28 AM on October 17, 2008
posted by Mental Wimp at 7:28 AM on October 17, 2008
Nice update to the site today:
November 5, 2008
posted by Exchequer at 2:11 PM on November 5, 2008 [1 favorite]
November 5, 2008
posted by Exchequer at 2:11 PM on November 5, 2008 [1 favorite]
Thanks Exchequer. I'm really glad they we fixed that for us ourselves! (Plus it made me cry. But then everything is making me cry this week. In a really really good way)
posted by nax at 7:01 AM on November 6, 2008
posted by nax at 7:01 AM on November 6, 2008
nax, I got teary at that site update too. So, there you go.
posted by pineapple at 7:47 AM on November 6, 2008
posted by pineapple at 7:47 AM on November 6, 2008
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