First hand account by a muslim who worked in WTC 7
September 13, 2001 10:59 PM Subscribe
First hand account by a muslim who worked in WTC 7 - showing, among other things, that muslims were among the victims and that NY residents truly are kind and helpful.
I don't know how much good that would do. Dying for the cause isn't a problem for them, in fact I think I believe it represents a free ride to the best part of their heaven (don't quote me on that, I'm generalizing). They don't care if a few of their own are mingled in with the rest.
posted by kd at 11:28 PM on September 13, 2001
posted by kd at 11:28 PM on September 13, 2001
I believe it was a Christian who first said: "Kill them all, God will know his own".
posted by i_am_joe's_spleen at 11:38 PM on September 13, 2001
posted by i_am_joe's_spleen at 11:38 PM on September 13, 2001
>That picture needs to be dropped leaflet form from a C-130 over every populus city in the M.E.
Probably not just in Maine, but all over the U.S. ...
Oh, whoops.
posted by sylloge at 11:38 PM on September 13, 2001
Probably not just in Maine, but all over the U.S. ...
Oh, whoops.
posted by sylloge at 11:38 PM on September 13, 2001
>Someone take this account, and paste it all over the front page of every newspaper/magazine/TV report in the middle east. >
Someone take this account, and paste it all over the front page of every newspaper/magazine/TV report in America.
posted by damn yankee at 11:47 PM on September 13, 2001
Someone take this account, and paste it all over the front page of every newspaper/magazine/TV report in America.
posted by damn yankee at 11:47 PM on September 13, 2001
Well, I'll start off with what I hate to mention, but that the average US citizen is woefully undereducated in global geography and history in order to understand the difference between a pakistani and afgani and a new guiani (which is in South America, by the way)..
Next, even though we all know that someone of Arab decent in the US most likely (99.9% of the time) was just as pissed off or freaked out by this whole thing, you know that 99.9% of non-Arab americans when they see an Arab they're going to cringe or think something.
And most of those Americans won't be doing it thinking it's wrong because that person they're seeing is also american who feels the same way, but they'll think hey that person's an arab and they all are the same.
Reminds me of what everyone's saying.. comparing this to Pearl Harbor.. well.. what happened to the Japanese american citizens after that?
Although I don't advocate any misdeeds against people in the US (except maybe those morons in detroit who were cheering), I still say go pound the fuck out of the Taliban and Iraq.. don't stop, commit the ground troops and bring in Russia to help out so they can get vindication for loosing their Vietnam.
Fucking don't play any games, do it the right way, and annialate everything in that path. I don't want to see 'tactical incersion'.. if that was going to be effective, it would have been better used funding the old black ops and preventing this shit in the first place.
posted by rich at 12:15 AM on September 14, 2001
Next, even though we all know that someone of Arab decent in the US most likely (99.9% of the time) was just as pissed off or freaked out by this whole thing, you know that 99.9% of non-Arab americans when they see an Arab they're going to cringe or think something.
And most of those Americans won't be doing it thinking it's wrong because that person they're seeing is also american who feels the same way, but they'll think hey that person's an arab and they all are the same.
Reminds me of what everyone's saying.. comparing this to Pearl Harbor.. well.. what happened to the Japanese american citizens after that?
Although I don't advocate any misdeeds against people in the US (except maybe those morons in detroit who were cheering), I still say go pound the fuck out of the Taliban and Iraq.. don't stop, commit the ground troops and bring in Russia to help out so they can get vindication for loosing their Vietnam.
Fucking don't play any games, do it the right way, and annialate everything in that path. I don't want to see 'tactical incersion'.. if that was going to be effective, it would have been better used funding the old black ops and preventing this shit in the first place.
posted by rich at 12:15 AM on September 14, 2001
I've been wanting to cry since the whole mess began. When I read the story, I had tears in my eyes.
It's not about going in and bombing the hell out of the Taleban in Afghanistan and Iraq, it's about getting justice for the people who have been hurt or killed.
And it's about the (Thank God) goodness of people.
posted by jetgrrl at 12:54 AM on September 14, 2001
It's not about going in and bombing the hell out of the Taleban in Afghanistan and Iraq, it's about getting justice for the people who have been hurt or killed.
And it's about the (Thank God) goodness of people.
posted by jetgrrl at 12:54 AM on September 14, 2001
Probably not just in Maine, but all over the U.S. ...
Oh, whoops.
Hehe ... Right on, sylloge! :)
posted by donkeyschlong at 2:22 AM on September 14, 2001
Oh, whoops.
Hehe ... Right on, sylloge! :)
posted by donkeyschlong at 2:22 AM on September 14, 2001
I was on my back, facing this massive cloud that was approaching, it must have been 600 feet off, everything was already dark. I normally wear a pendant around my neck, inscribed with an Arabic prayer for safety; similar to the cross. A hesidic Jewish man came up to me and held the pendant in his hand, and looked at it. He read the Arabic out loud for a second. What he said next, I will never forget. With a deep Brooklyn accent he said “Brother, if you don’t mind, there is a cloud of glass coming at us, grab my hand, lets get the hell out of here”. He helped me stand up, and we ran for what seemed like forever without looking back. He was the last person I would ever have thought, who would help me. If it weren’t for him, I probably would have been engulfed in shattered glass and debris.
Okay, I pretty much lost it when I read this part. Absolutely beautiful. This does indeed need to be circulated everywhere.
posted by donkeyschlong at 2:27 AM on September 14, 2001
Okay, I pretty much lost it when I read this part. Absolutely beautiful. This does indeed need to be circulated everywhere.
posted by donkeyschlong at 2:27 AM on September 14, 2001
that affected me, too. it's strange, the hasids seem to be some of the most human people on earth. one once helped my grandfather carry books from the library. while they were walking my grandfather realized it was Saturday (when the Jewish religion forbids doing any work) and said, "it's shabbat". the fellow looked at him and said, simply, that that wasn't a reason not to help someone.
posted by mattpfeff at 11:01 AM on September 14, 2001
posted by mattpfeff at 11:01 AM on September 14, 2001
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I saw a picture of a Muslim girl running and crying from the WTC. That picture needs to be dropped leaflet form from a C-130 over every populus city in the M.E.
posted by Return of BE at 11:09 PM on September 13, 2001