You Gotta Love Those New York Firemen
September 29, 2001 12:42 PM Subscribe
posted by timothompson at 2:23 PM on September 29, 2001
posted by MiguelCardoso at 2:38 PM on September 29, 2001
*ducks to avoid tomatoes thrown at head*
posted by PWA_BadBoy at 2:42 PM on September 29, 2001
posted by MiguelCardoso at 2:58 PM on September 29, 2001
posted by Mo Nickels at 3:58 PM on September 29, 2001
Of New York's 11,000 fire-fighters, 36 are female. This is largely due to a physical regimen that demands upper-body strength.
posted by marknau at 4:04 PM on September 29, 2001
posted by moz at 4:49 PM on September 29, 2001
Generally agree with the article regarding Firemen and others mating and mashing more often in the days since the attack.
But the NY Observer has been--and always will be--the narrow-visioned voice of the upper-east-side. It speaks little to NYC in general and speaks volumes to the Upper East Side's self-absorbed pretention.
It's well attuned alright. But only to a very small segment of the NYC population. One that 90% of NYC has nothing to do with.
posted by RoyalJack at 5:07 PM on September 29, 2001
(moz)
I guess that about describes and depresses every single one of us. Thanks a lot.
(Cue every single damn version of "This Charming Man"):
Come off it, moz, you're a champion aggregator and aggravator and you should be proud of your upper-body strength(it says here...)
posted by MiguelCardoso at 5:09 PM on September 29, 2001
posted by aramaic at 5:14 PM on September 29, 2001
posted by EngineBeak at 5:39 PM on September 29, 2001
(considers linking to kitten-eating thread of yore, discards as being too far out of the realm of reasonable taste)
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 7:06 PM on September 29, 2001
a) Men in uniform
b) Heroic- the whole "running into burning buildings to save lives" thing
c) Manly a la "Tom of Finland" yet gentle- not only saving lives, but also rescuing kittens from trees!
d) Heroic, uniformed men in a way that isn't remotely political or controversial.
See, some people might hate cops, or the military, or other folks in uniform- but who they hell can hate a freakin' fireman?
posted by hincandenza at 8:37 PM on September 29, 2001
I mean, I'm just sayin' is all...
posted by aramaic at 8:41 PM on September 29, 2001
Um, hincandenza, you've obviously never seen a city council in the midst of hearing firefighter complaints about zillion different things, some important and others petty, or known an elected official dealing with nasty departmental politics. The above people can come to hate individual firefighters or groups of same. It happens.
posted by raysmj at 9:19 PM on September 29, 2001
posted by thirteen at 10:31 PM on September 29, 2001
The point stands: even when firefighters are petty or demanding, non-politicians would find it hard to really hate them. When teachers go on strike, there are plenty of people who think they're lazy; when cops beat up some black dude outside a supermarket, there are plenty of people ready to march in the street. But you don't really have a comparable situation with firefighters (that I've ever experienced), since you don't really ever hear of low fire-fighter standards or somesuch (again, that I've ever experienced). Hell, even if they did demand higher pay- so long as they didn't go on strike- I 'spect most people wouldn't be saying, "Ah, fuck the firefighters- what they ever do for US!?"
posted by hincandenza at 1:23 AM on September 30, 2001
> fetish: firemen. All the women at the table shook their
> heads and said "Uh hunh" in a knowing way.
It's the boots. It's the big, shining helmet. It's the rubber. It's the hoses, the big nozzles, the uncontrollable streams.
posted by pracowity at 3:22 AM on September 30, 2001
'cause a fireman's wages they could count on their toses.
But now they are heroes, and as everyone knowses,
They all come equipped with very big hoses.
posted by Opus Dark at 3:39 AM on September 30, 2001
Next week: train-drivers; brain surgeons; Amnesty International chairmen and webmasters. OK, not webmasters then.
posted by MiguelCardoso at 4:26 AM on September 30, 2001
He was so cool he hardly perspired;
But now he's enflamed
Those NYC women to blame
And the bastard he told me he's gonna retire!
posted by mattpfeff at 10:28 AM on September 30, 2001
Of course, firefighters should be paid and treated well, since it's a nasty and dangerous job. Incompetence can be a reflection of officialdom's failure. But that's not always the case, since there are a-holes in every group or subculture in the world, y'know. This is true, even if I'm just giving you a hard time here.
posted by raysmj at 11:02 AM on September 30, 2001
posted by raysmj at 11:09 AM on September 30, 2001
posted by hincandenza at 2:23 PM on September 30, 2001
posted by hincandenza at 9:25 PM on September 30, 2001
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posted by MiguelCardoso at 1:14 PM on September 29, 2001