Hiding under your toilet.
March 13, 2012 12:22 AM Subscribe
Here are two stories about men hiding themselves under toilets for strange/unknown/sexual reasons. [1] [2a] [2b]. NSFW, NSF people who don't want to read about men hiding under toilets.
you're taking the piss, mate
posted by joelf at 12:33 AM on March 13, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by joelf at 12:33 AM on March 13, 2012 [3 favorites]
After the other thread about crap website comments, the ones at Vice.com were like a streak of bat's piss in a darkened room.
posted by bystander at 12:34 AM on March 13, 2012 [3 favorites]
posted by bystander at 12:34 AM on March 13, 2012 [3 favorites]
And when I were a wee lad, there were rumours around Sydney of Troughman. I never saw him, but it was a good legend.
posted by bystander at 12:39 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by bystander at 12:39 AM on March 13, 2012
"Where there is muck, there is gold."
Skye's words of wisdom.
posted by 2N2222 at 12:48 AM on March 13, 2012
Skye's words of wisdom.
posted by 2N2222 at 12:48 AM on March 13, 2012
The quote from the festival one is great: On what compelled him to hide inside the porta potty: "I was at the yoga festival, doing a little bit of yoga, and I'm just seeing all these goddesses... It seems crazy, but I just felt like I was being blessed by their energy, even though it was unintentional."
Yes, blessed.
posted by arcticseal at 1:01 AM on March 13, 2012
Yes, blessed.
posted by arcticseal at 1:01 AM on March 13, 2012
Metafilter: Where there is muck, there is gold.
posted by Defenestrator at 1:05 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by Defenestrator at 1:05 AM on March 13, 2012
On, uh, his... spiritual beliefs, and the, I guess, exercise thereof (?): "I'll be honest, it was a lifestyle that I was living... just by choice trying to find my private way to exercise my spiritual beliefs. I made a vow to myself...that I never wanted to frighten any girl. I would rather put a gun to my head than scare anyone or hurt anyone. That's how I live my life."
While this is surreal, hilarious and disgusting in equal parts and my immediate reaction was an incredulous "why not just stick to porn?" this answer of Skye's seems unintentionally revealing. I've read that sexual predators usually start out along a predictable path: watching more and more explicit porn, then finally when that's not enough, moving on to peeping, and when that's not enough, flashing, and then it escalates from there. Not to uh, harsh anyone's mellow. Dude seems mentally ill and I hope he gets help.
posted by quincunx at 1:07 AM on March 13, 2012
While this is surreal, hilarious and disgusting in equal parts and my immediate reaction was an incredulous "why not just stick to porn?" this answer of Skye's seems unintentionally revealing. I've read that sexual predators usually start out along a predictable path: watching more and more explicit porn, then finally when that's not enough, moving on to peeping, and when that's not enough, flashing, and then it escalates from there. Not to uh, harsh anyone's mellow. Dude seems mentally ill and I hope he gets help.
posted by quincunx at 1:07 AM on March 13, 2012
Skye? If the guy is going to adopt a pseudonym, surely Earth would be more fetish-appropriate?
Or even Eartha -- as in 'I'm desperate for a good Eartha Kitt.'
posted by PeterMcDermott at 1:08 AM on March 13, 2012 [6 favorites]
Or even Eartha -- as in 'I'm desperate for a good Eartha Kitt.'
posted by PeterMcDermott at 1:08 AM on March 13, 2012 [6 favorites]
From the interview:
"I was tryin' to be a pimp and all. You know, I believe like sometimes people aren't too good at meeting each other, and I was trying to help people meet each other, you know, in a safe environment. Like I was interviewing the men first. I'm fine with giving a massage but I'm not, I'm not homosexual so I don't really like, enjoy it, man to man, but, you know...I think if you're a pimp you've gotta be willing to do it yourself."
posted by Defenestrator at 1:11 AM on March 13, 2012
"I was tryin' to be a pimp and all. You know, I believe like sometimes people aren't too good at meeting each other, and I was trying to help people meet each other, you know, in a safe environment. Like I was interviewing the men first. I'm fine with giving a massage but I'm not, I'm not homosexual so I don't really like, enjoy it, man to man, but, you know...I think if you're a pimp you've gotta be willing to do it yourself."
posted by Defenestrator at 1:11 AM on March 13, 2012
It's really not OK to involve members of the public in your kinky sex fantasies. Or even your spiritual epiphanies. Especially if they involve shit.
posted by misfish at 1:12 AM on March 13, 2012 [8 favorites]
posted by misfish at 1:12 AM on March 13, 2012 [8 favorites]
And he keeps talking about his utmost respect for women.
Really, I just feel sorry for the guy, he obviously has some serious mental health issues.
posted by Defenestrator at 1:15 AM on March 13, 2012
Really, I just feel sorry for the guy, he obviously has some serious mental health issues.
posted by Defenestrator at 1:15 AM on March 13, 2012
"I don't wanna pee here, in your London piss dungeon, I don't wanna pee here in your fetish hell"
posted by DecemberBoy at 1:15 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by DecemberBoy at 1:15 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
Those of us trained in Ninjutsu recall the tale of the midget ninja Ukifune Jinnai who did much honor to his craft through similar means.
It's entirely possible though, that these guys were not honorable midget ninjas.
posted by twoleftfeet at 1:56 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
It's entirely possible though, that these guys were not honorable midget ninjas.
posted by twoleftfeet at 1:56 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
Just following on from bystander - I was around in those dark times, and remember well from my gay friends, the stories of troughman.
posted by a non e mouse at 2:15 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by a non e mouse at 2:15 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
On what he was thinking while inside the porta potty: "I thought, 'This is really amazing; I've been blessed and anointed by the makers of life.'"
NO, YOU HAVE BEEN COVERED IN FECES, YOU CRAZY GODDAMN FREAK.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 2:15 AM on March 13, 2012
NO, YOU HAVE BEEN COVERED IN FECES, YOU CRAZY GODDAMN FREAK.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 2:15 AM on March 13, 2012
Google search for Luke Chrisco, aka porta-potty dwelling Skye from FPP links 2 and 2a.
Dog help this idiot if he ever applies for a job.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 2:21 AM on March 13, 2012
Dog help this idiot if he ever applies for a job.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 2:21 AM on March 13, 2012
That guy in lee's link is called Sanchez.
Epony-fucking-sterical.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 3:06 AM on March 13, 2012
Epony-fucking-sterical.
posted by PeterMcDermott at 3:06 AM on March 13, 2012
According to that google search for Luke Chrisco, he has a mental competency hearing this month.
I've never been to Australia, but in several places I've heard stories of a Troughman equivalent; either he gets around or he has fellow-travelers.
And once, when I was a teenager, an old guy tried to pick me up by showing me snapshots of dudes peeing. I can't imagine him in a portapotty, but I could easily imagine him knowing someone who would think it was a fine idea.
posted by Forktine at 3:15 AM on March 13, 2012
I've never been to Australia, but in several places I've heard stories of a Troughman equivalent; either he gets around or he has fellow-travelers.
And once, when I was a teenager, an old guy tried to pick me up by showing me snapshots of dudes peeing. I can't imagine him in a portapotty, but I could easily imagine him knowing someone who would think it was a fine idea.
posted by Forktine at 3:15 AM on March 13, 2012
London piss dungeon
AKA the men's room at Charing Cross Station.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 3:36 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
AKA the men's room at Charing Cross Station.
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 3:36 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
This is one of the strangest things I've seen in some time. I have no idea how these people got their weirdos wedged into their toilets, or why.
posted by snofoam at 4:03 AM on March 13, 2012 [11 favorites]
posted by snofoam at 4:03 AM on March 13, 2012 [11 favorites]
Every shower has a golden lining, that's what I always say.
posted by kcds at 4:13 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by kcds at 4:13 AM on March 13, 2012
he obviously has some serious mental health issues.
You think?
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:18 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
You think?
posted by Mayor Curley at 4:18 AM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
I find the mention of a snorkel to be disturbing.
posted by Houstonian at 4:25 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by Houstonian at 4:25 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
I've been awake for about 10 minutes so these links were the first thing I read upon waking up this morning. I'm really curious what that will mean for my day.
All I do know is that if I'd come in here and not found some variation of snofoam's comment, I would have felt like I understood the world that much less.
What I do know is that I've known a lot of severely kinky people in my time but none with this much follow through. As a usual critic of "normalcy" and ignoring your passions because of society's standards, I suddenly think I owe them a Coke or something.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 4:43 AM on March 13, 2012
All I do know is that if I'd come in here and not found some variation of snofoam's comment, I would have felt like I understood the world that much less.
What I do know is that I've known a lot of severely kinky people in my time but none with this much follow through. As a usual critic of "normalcy" and ignoring your passions because of society's standards, I suddenly think I owe them a Coke or something.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 4:43 AM on March 13, 2012
I made a vow to myself...that I never wanted to frighten any girl. I would rather put a gun to my head than scare anyone or hurt anyone.
Pedophiles often say the same thing.
posted by Malice at 5:18 AM on March 13, 2012
Pedophiles often say the same thing.
posted by Malice at 5:18 AM on March 13, 2012
He said he was pretty disturbed by the fact that he had seen this utterly normal-looking middle-aged man at his lowest ebb.
Unlikely.
posted by StickyCarpet at 5:26 AM on March 13, 2012
Unlikely.
posted by StickyCarpet at 5:26 AM on March 13, 2012
So that's where the lemonade is made.
posted by Senor Cardgage at 5:34 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by Senor Cardgage at 5:34 AM on March 13, 2012
As a usual critic of "normalcy" and ignoring your passions because of society's standards, I suddenly think I owe them a Coke or something.
posted by MCMikeNamara
They'd appreciate it more if you drank the coke before giving it to them.
posted by 445supermag at 5:40 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by MCMikeNamara
They'd appreciate it more if you drank the coke before giving it to them.
posted by 445supermag at 5:40 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
This is pretty minor stuff, as far as it goes; in a Berlin bar that will remain nameless, me and my visiting buddy found a guy lying face-up in the urinal trough, I'm guessing for personal reasons of his own. Frankly, we'd had too much Jager/beer to be fussy about using it.
posted by malusmoriendumest at 5:59 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by malusmoriendumest at 5:59 AM on March 13, 2012
Nice number one and number two corellation on those links.
posted by longsleeves at 6:12 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by longsleeves at 6:12 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
Actually, I meant that I should give a Coke to the (usually maligned by me) "normalcy" because this story shows me that whatever keeps kink "within reason"; the only thing I want to give the perpetrators is help.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:15 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:15 AM on March 13, 2012
(Mental help, not fecal help.)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:16 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:16 AM on March 13, 2012
Believe it or not, I am reading this on the toilet. Perhaps I should check for a periscope.
posted by jonmc at 6:34 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by jonmc at 6:34 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
@quincunx
that sounds interesting, where did you read it
posted by This, of course, alludes to you at 6:56 AM on March 13, 2012
that sounds interesting, where did you read it
posted by This, of course, alludes to you at 6:56 AM on March 13, 2012
Sorry. Chuck Berry is all I can think of when I hear these stories now...
posted by horsemuth at 7:18 AM on March 13, 2012
posted by horsemuth at 7:18 AM on March 13, 2012
"The Aristocrats!"
posted by entropicamericana at 7:47 AM on March 13, 2012 [7 favorites]
posted by entropicamericana at 7:47 AM on March 13, 2012 [7 favorites]
This sort of thing happened to a friend of mine in high school, it was one of those legendary stories in my friend circle. I was never sure if he made it up or not, but he never lied before. He was at a forest preserve and a man was hiding under the porta-potty, eating the fecal matter of the people above him. Police found the guy and arrested him after it was reported. Apparently the perpetrator wasn't being all that subtle - my friend was haunted by the faint sound of someone making nearly subhuman, retching type noises below him.
I had blocked this completely out of my memory until just now. Thanks, MeFi?
posted by naju at 7:50 AM on March 13, 2012
I had blocked this completely out of my memory until just now. Thanks, MeFi?
posted by naju at 7:50 AM on March 13, 2012
Anyone here remember the Hellfire Club in NYC? The bathroom? The bathtub with the guy in it that would politely ask you to piss on him instead of the urinals?
I had many pleasant conversations with that guy.
posted by Splunge at 8:02 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
I had many pleasant conversations with that guy.
posted by Splunge at 8:02 AM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
@quincunx
that sounds interesting, where did you read it
I actually read it in a true crime book, but it's all over the internet in many, many places, too many to cite. Of course, the information comes from law enforcement and criminal profilers. It's a big deal in legislation concerning sex crimes too.
I just did a quick search, here's one of the more official sources I found, which cites some studies. I'm sure it's easy to find more if you're interested.
Excerpt (its' long):
Are "Peeping Toms" Likely to Commit More Serious Offenses ?
As Mr. Wolfe observes, the typical "peeping Tom" could engage
in less risky, less frightening, and completely legal activity,
such as viewing a sexually explicit video tape. Rather, it is the enjoyment of
risk, and the interaction with the victim, Mr. Wolfe says, which
motivates "peeping Toms." These same factors cause many "peeping
Toms" to escalate their behavior, thus posing a greater threat to
victims.
There's actual studies and numbers in there too, but too much to quote. Blah, blah- it's heavy stuff for an otherwise comical thread, and I'm not here to advocate any position because I'm not that invested...but yeah, if you're curious about crime in any real depth it's out there.
posted by quincunx at 8:20 AM on March 13, 2012
that sounds interesting, where did you read it
I actually read it in a true crime book, but it's all over the internet in many, many places, too many to cite. Of course, the information comes from law enforcement and criminal profilers. It's a big deal in legislation concerning sex crimes too.
I just did a quick search, here's one of the more official sources I found, which cites some studies. I'm sure it's easy to find more if you're interested.
Excerpt (its' long):
Are "Peeping Toms" Likely to Commit More Serious Offenses ?
As Mr. Wolfe observes, the typical "peeping Tom" could engage
in less risky, less frightening, and completely legal activity,
such as viewing a sexually explicit video tape. Rather, it is the enjoyment of
risk, and the interaction with the victim, Mr. Wolfe says, which
motivates "peeping Toms." These same factors cause many "peeping
Toms" to escalate their behavior, thus posing a greater threat to
victims.
There's actual studies and numbers in there too, but too much to quote. Blah, blah- it's heavy stuff for an otherwise comical thread, and I'm not here to advocate any position because I'm not that invested...but yeah, if you're curious about crime in any real depth it's out there.
posted by quincunx at 8:20 AM on March 13, 2012
But to counter quincunx' claims of dangerous predators getting where they are via a path of porn, numerous scientific studies have statistically disproven these claims.
tl;dr: it's bunk. If anything, increased access to porn decreases incidences of violent sexual crimes in society.
posted by IAmBroom at 10:01 AM on March 13, 2012 [5 favorites]
tl;dr: it's bunk. If anything, increased access to porn decreases incidences of violent sexual crimes in society.
posted by IAmBroom at 10:01 AM on March 13, 2012 [5 favorites]
But to counter quincunx' claims of dangerous predators getting where they are via a path of porn, numerous scientific studies have statistically disproven these claims.
tl;dr: it's bunk. If anything, increased access to porn decreases incidences of violent sexual crimes in society.
Um, IAmBroom, that's not at ALL what I was linking to, or claiming. In fact, quite the opposite- one might even say that porn is a deterrant. If you read the article I linked, it has nothing to do with porn, and neither do my comments- they're about taking peeping and flashing seriously as an indicator of further criminal activity in the future. Full stop.
posted by quincunx at 12:06 PM on March 13, 2012
tl;dr: it's bunk. If anything, increased access to porn decreases incidences of violent sexual crimes in society.
Um, IAmBroom, that's not at ALL what I was linking to, or claiming. In fact, quite the opposite- one might even say that porn is a deterrant. If you read the article I linked, it has nothing to do with porn, and neither do my comments- they're about taking peeping and flashing seriously as an indicator of further criminal activity in the future. Full stop.
posted by quincunx at 12:06 PM on March 13, 2012
To quote myself from upthread:
my immediate reaction was an incredulous "why not just stick to porn?"
As Mr. Wolfe observes, the typical "peeping Tom" could engage
in less risky, less frightening, and completely legal activity,
such as viewing a sexually explicit video tape.
These are both pro-porn statements, no?
I have no idea how you got some kind of anti-porn rant from anything I said.
posted by quincunx at 12:15 PM on March 13, 2012
my immediate reaction was an incredulous "why not just stick to porn?"
As Mr. Wolfe observes, the typical "peeping Tom" could engage
in less risky, less frightening, and completely legal activity,
such as viewing a sexually explicit video tape.
These are both pro-porn statements, no?
I have no idea how you got some kind of anti-porn rant from anything I said.
posted by quincunx at 12:15 PM on March 13, 2012
quincunx: I have no idea how you got some kind of anti-porn rant from anything I said.
Oh, I don't know... maybe from this quote you wrote:
I've read that sexual predators usually start out along a predictable path: watching more and more explicit porn, ...
posted by IAmBroom at 12:45 PM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
Oh, I don't know... maybe from this quote you wrote:
I've read that sexual predators usually start out along a predictable path: watching more and more explicit porn, ...
posted by IAmBroom at 12:45 PM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
I've read that sexual predators usually start out along a predictable path: watching more and more explicit porn, ...
That's just a fact which it is entirely possible to acknowledge and still not be anti-porn. The point is the pattern of escalation, not the porn itself. I watch porn. I like porn. Not sure why you won't take my word for this. However, I am still capable of understanding criminal profiling. It doesn't mean that all people who watch porn are corrupted by it somehow, just that some people who end up committing crimes follow a pattern of escalation that, if predictable, can be useful to criminologists. It's probably true that these people already have something "off" about them, right? I don't know how to make this more grokable. I understand your views and even your need to argue them, but I really wish you wouldn't use me as the strawman for your argument once I've explained I was trying to make a different point entirely.
posted by quincunx at 2:57 PM on March 13, 2012
That's just a fact which it is entirely possible to acknowledge and still not be anti-porn. The point is the pattern of escalation, not the porn itself. I watch porn. I like porn. Not sure why you won't take my word for this. However, I am still capable of understanding criminal profiling. It doesn't mean that all people who watch porn are corrupted by it somehow, just that some people who end up committing crimes follow a pattern of escalation that, if predictable, can be useful to criminologists. It's probably true that these people already have something "off" about them, right? I don't know how to make this more grokable. I understand your views and even your need to argue them, but I really wish you wouldn't use me as the strawman for your argument once I've explained I was trying to make a different point entirely.
posted by quincunx at 2:57 PM on March 13, 2012
I believe Chuck Berry has a long history as a voyeur, so, given the reasoning that watching porn inevitably leads to sexual predation, you could also argue that bathroom voyeurism leads to the Beatles.
posted by KokuRyu at 3:44 PM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
posted by KokuRyu at 3:44 PM on March 13, 2012 [1 favorite]
And then there's Bear Grylls.... who turns piss into water...
posted by a non e mouse at 4:59 PM on March 13, 2012
posted by a non e mouse at 4:59 PM on March 13, 2012
There's a very significant difference between some guy in a leather bar in a bathtub (or even urinal trough) asking to pissed on and what's happening in these stories. The former is consensual and both parties know what's going on -- clearly not the case with the latter. Moreover, no matter how gross you think the idea is, the former probably isn't a manifestation of severe mental illness whereas the latter probably is.
posted by treepour at 8:12 PM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
posted by treepour at 8:12 PM on March 13, 2012 [2 favorites]
quincunx, if you don't want to be called out on your misleading statements, don't make them. Or own up to them, instead of proposing nothing you've said could be construed that way.
Simple.
posted by IAmBroom at 9:56 AM on March 14, 2012
Simple.
posted by IAmBroom at 9:56 AM on March 14, 2012
quincunx, if you don't want to be called out on your misleading statements, don't make them. Or own up to them, instead of proposing nothing you've said could be construed that way.
Simple.
I honestly don't understand how that was in any way misleading. Did you even read what I linked? Because I doubt you did. I am sorry if it was misleading, but I don't think all the blame is on my side here. It would be nice not to be misrepresented.
posted by quincunx at 2:13 PM on March 14, 2012
Simple.
I honestly don't understand how that was in any way misleading. Did you even read what I linked? Because I doubt you did. I am sorry if it was misleading, but I don't think all the blame is on my side here. It would be nice not to be misrepresented.
posted by quincunx at 2:13 PM on March 14, 2012
There once was a man from Nantucket
who carved a hole for his head and there stuck it
T'was his longstanding wish
to be covered in piss
so he made others use him as bucket
posted by monocultured at 5:28 AM on March 16, 2012 [2 favorites]
who carved a hole for his head and there stuck it
T'was his longstanding wish
to be covered in piss
so he made others use him as bucket
posted by monocultured at 5:28 AM on March 16, 2012 [2 favorites]
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