Not necessary for lesbian summer weddings.
May 22, 2013 9:48 AM Subscribe
I want to learn the choreographed dance for the Beyonce song that hasn't been released yet. I have two (non-gay) weddings to attend at the end of July, would like to bust it out.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 10:03 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 10:03 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
mecran01: You have my permission. With the modern-SNL clause that reluctant chuckles are preferable to actual laughter.
posted by 256 at 10:05 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by 256 at 10:05 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
OK, while we're on the topic of SNL sketches and gay weddings:
Here's Everyone Who Was At Stefon's Wedding (Sadly, Taylor Negron was not in attendance.)
posted by Atom Eyes at 10:13 AM on May 22, 2013 [19 favorites]
Here's Everyone Who Was At Stefon's Wedding (Sadly, Taylor Negron was not in attendance.)
posted by Atom Eyes at 10:13 AM on May 22, 2013 [19 favorites]
Everyone at Stefon's wedding ... Thanks for posting that, because I had just mentioned yesterday that I had somehow missed Black George Washington.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 10:18 AM on May 22, 2013
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 10:18 AM on May 22, 2013
I watched it yesterday (cause I'm old on Saturday nights and don't want to stay up for it), and I screamed laughing at this sketch. Gonna be sad to see Hader leave SNL.
posted by deezil at 10:21 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by deezil at 10:21 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Okay since the subject came up, here's everything I almost put in a Stefon's wedding/departure post I considered last night.
Full directory of Stefon's favorite clubs
Watch Stefon Name All Of New York’s Hottest Night Clubs In One Video (somewhat dated, from 2012)
Bill Hader on the process of writing Stefon bits
posted by MCMikeNamara at 10:24 AM on May 22, 2013 [7 favorites]
Full directory of Stefon's favorite clubs
Watch Stefon Name All Of New York’s Hottest Night Clubs In One Video (somewhat dated, from 2012)
Bill Hader on the process of writing Stefon bits
posted by MCMikeNamara at 10:24 AM on May 22, 2013 [7 favorites]
But what will Stefon and Seth's wedding be like, and will we need Xanax for it?
posted by yasaman at 10:28 AM on May 22, 2013
posted by yasaman at 10:28 AM on May 22, 2013
The New Xanax was funny, but Stefon's Wedding was hilarious -- the attention to detail with the guests was perfect.
The two things about the New Xanax that made me "lol" (do we still use "lol"), was that woman's face when she held up the $40k & two tickets to Italy. I like (approaching love, not quite there yet) this actress! (She also does the drunk girl at the party you regret starting a conversation with). I also liked the closing tag (the title here), that it isn't necessary for lesbian summer weddings.
I nominate Bill Hader for the Phil Hartman Award for Excellence in Every Single Sketch.
posted by MoxieProxy at 10:29 AM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
The two things about the New Xanax that made me "lol" (do we still use "lol"), was that woman's face when she held up the $40k & two tickets to Italy. I like (approaching love, not quite there yet) this actress! (She also does the drunk girl at the party you regret starting a conversation with). I also liked the closing tag (the title here), that it isn't necessary for lesbian summer weddings.
I nominate Bill Hader for the Phil Hartman Award for Excellence in Every Single Sketch.
posted by MoxieProxy at 10:29 AM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
MoxieProxy: I like (approaching love, not quite there yet) this actress! (She also does the drunk girl at the party you regret starting a conversation with)
Cecily Strong. She's amazing.
posted by Rock Steady at 10:33 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Cecily Strong. She's amazing.
posted by Rock Steady at 10:33 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
MoxieProxy: " I also liked the closing tag (the title here), that it isn't necessary for lesbian summer weddings."
It's the dogs that got me.
posted by brundlefly at 10:36 AM on May 22, 2013 [6 favorites]
It's the dogs that got me.
posted by brundlefly at 10:36 AM on May 22, 2013 [6 favorites]
I have a very hard time getting excited about these new cast members while the incredible talent of Nasim Pedrad just gets wasted week after week.
posted by prize bull octorok at 10:39 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by prize bull octorok at 10:39 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
I also liked the closing tag (the title here), that it isn't necessary for lesbian summer weddings.
Just remember: lesbians take the Xanax so you don't have to.
posted by de at 10:40 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
Just remember: lesbians take the Xanax so you don't have to.
posted by de at 10:40 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
Sidesplitting hilarity.
Last summer I attended weddings involving elaborate, expensive, hand-made favors, ultra-luxe seaside settings, breathtaking color schemes and photos that look straight out of a Ralph Lauren ad. Every single one left me feeling shabby and inadequate, surreptitiously using drugs in the flower-laden bathrooms; fortunately this just made the spectacularly appointed buffet that much tastier.
posted by kinnakeet at 10:51 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
Last summer I attended weddings involving elaborate, expensive, hand-made favors, ultra-luxe seaside settings, breathtaking color schemes and photos that look straight out of a Ralph Lauren ad. Every single one left me feeling shabby and inadequate, surreptitiously using drugs in the flower-laden bathrooms; fortunately this just made the spectacularly appointed buffet that much tastier.
posted by kinnakeet at 10:51 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
Rock Steady -- thank you for that link!!
Nasim Pedrad (I had to look her up. I don't know any of these new people's names) does a hilarious, spot-on Ariana Huffington! I really like her, too, but I have to humbly disagree that she is underused, I feel like she gets a lot of play (she's one of the most versatile players they have now).
I also like/approaching love Aidy Bryant, who is DEFINITELY underused. I fear she'll go the way of Casey Wilson (love, love her).
And I've got a crush on Taran Killam.
posted by MoxieProxy at 10:54 AM on May 22, 2013
Nasim Pedrad (I had to look her up. I don't know any of these new people's names) does a hilarious, spot-on Ariana Huffington! I really like her, too, but I have to humbly disagree that she is underused, I feel like she gets a lot of play (she's one of the most versatile players they have now).
I also like/approaching love Aidy Bryant, who is DEFINITELY underused. I fear she'll go the way of Casey Wilson (love, love her).
And I've got a crush on Taran Killam.
posted by MoxieProxy at 10:54 AM on May 22, 2013
MoxieProxy, if you haven't seen Aidy and Cecily together on Girlfriends Talk Show, do I have a treat for you.
posted by Rock Steady at 10:57 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by Rock Steady at 10:57 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Nasim Pedrad (I had to look her up. I don't know any of these new people's names) does a hilarious, spot-on Ariana Huffington! I really like her, too, but I have to humbly disagree that she is underused, I feel like she gets a lot of play (she's one of the most versatile players they have now).
She was filler/voiceover/the bland girlfriend in a lot of sketches, but didn't seem to have been featured in nearly as many of the brilliant character-driven sketches (most of which she wrote, I believe) she'd been doing in past seasons.
posted by prize bull octorok at 11:02 AM on May 22, 2013
She was filler/voiceover/the bland girlfriend in a lot of sketches, but didn't seem to have been featured in nearly as many of the brilliant character-driven sketches (most of which she wrote, I believe) she'd been doing in past seasons.
posted by prize bull octorok at 11:02 AM on May 22, 2013
ha! i didn't realize snl was still funny (at least sometimes.)
posted by rmd1023 at 11:05 AM on May 22, 2013
posted by rmd1023 at 11:05 AM on May 22, 2013
We are in a new Golden Age of SNL, and I will knife-fight anyone who says different. I'll miss Bill Hader as much as anyone, but Taran Killam, Kate McKinnon, Bobby Moynihan and Cecily Strong all deliver every week. Anyone who thinks this is a low point -- or even a middling point -- is trapped in the Mad Magazine Loop: It was good when I first saw it, and it'll never be that good again.
posted by Etrigan at 11:10 AM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by Etrigan at 11:10 AM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
I didn't get why blatant stereotyping of gay relationships was funny and not hateful, but to each their own. SNL has a long record of being distasteful, altho usually they're just alarmingly mysogynistic.
posted by agregoli at 11:11 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by agregoli at 11:11 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
I didn't get why blatant stereotyping of gay relationships was funny ...
I thought the joke was firmly on het-inadequacy (and parenthetically lesbians).
posted by de at 11:14 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
I thought the joke was firmly on het-inadequacy (and parenthetically lesbians).
posted by de at 11:14 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
I actually find this incredibly offensive. And it's just such an old joke. Gay weddings are fabulous! Lesbians have pets! Gee, my sides are splitting.
Even the whole anti-anxiety pill to help you cope with gay people is something SNL did over a decade ago, and much, much better.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:14 AM on May 22, 2013 [7 favorites]
Even the whole anti-anxiety pill to help you cope with gay people is something SNL did over a decade ago, and much, much better.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:14 AM on May 22, 2013 [7 favorites]
ha! i didn't realize snl was still funny (at least sometimes.)
SNL is as good, or better than it's always been. By that I mean it's generally not very good, but it's worth watching because every now and then they hit it out of the park (like with a Lazy Sunday or 95% of any Justin Timberlake episode) or have a recurring character that is amazing, like Stephon. People forget that there was a lot of really shitty sketches even back in the 1970s.
posted by bondcliff at 11:17 AM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
SNL is as good, or better than it's always been. By that I mean it's generally not very good, but it's worth watching because every now and then they hit it out of the park (like with a Lazy Sunday or 95% of any Justin Timberlake episode) or have a recurring character that is amazing, like Stephon. People forget that there was a lot of really shitty sketches even back in the 1970s.
posted by bondcliff at 11:17 AM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
Brings back memories of being a bridesmaid at a friend's wedding years ago, where we were all instructed that the groom's elderly relatives weren't supposed to find out that the minister was the bride's lesbian aunt, and that other nice lady was just her friend. Hilarious hijinks did not ensue, but I could have used a pill or two.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 11:18 AM on May 22, 2013
posted by The Underpants Monster at 11:18 AM on May 22, 2013
Even the whole anti-anxiety pill to help you cope with gay people is something SNL did over a decade ago, and much, much better.
Okay, I didn't find the New Xanax thing offensive at all, but rather than focusing on that, I am tipping my hat to you, because yes, in fact, your link made me laugh out loud at work, and is definitely funnier! How did I miss that??
posted by MoxieProxy at 11:20 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
Okay, I didn't find the New Xanax thing offensive at all, but rather than focusing on that, I am tipping my hat to you, because yes, in fact, your link made me laugh out loud at work, and is definitely funnier! How did I miss that??
posted by MoxieProxy at 11:20 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
Right, so gay men always have fabulous, perfect weddings, and all lesbian weddings involve butchy girls with dogs, in a nonfabulous ceremony? It relies on tired stereotypes and is othering, besides. And some sort of trivialization of mental illness that requires Xanax. Ugly all around. Embarassed this is on the blue.
posted by agregoli at 11:23 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by agregoli at 11:23 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
I thought the joke was firmly on het-inadequacy (and parenthetically lesbians).
Thing is, if it was just a joke about general wedding inadequacy, that would be 100% unproblematic and still totally work as a joke; it would even be better in that it's then more universally relatable. So why the superfluous LOLGAYS?
posted by Sys Rq at 11:24 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Thing is, if it was just a joke about general wedding inadequacy, that would be 100% unproblematic and still totally work as a joke; it would even be better in that it's then more universally relatable. So why the superfluous LOLGAYS?
posted by Sys Rq at 11:24 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
And I've got a crush on Taran Killam.
From my perspective, the world can be divided into two categories: those who have a crush on Taran Killam and those who will eventually.
And as for the skit itself, even as a capital-g Gay, I found the need for Xanax like this pretty spot-on for the weddings I've been to, but I also understand YMMV.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 11:25 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
From my perspective, the world can be divided into two categories: those who have a crush on Taran Killam and those who will eventually.
And as for the skit itself, even as a capital-g Gay, I found the need for Xanax like this pretty spot-on for the weddings I've been to, but I also understand YMMV.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 11:25 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
I'm still a little creeped out by the way nearly all SNL fake commercials are for real products lately. Has anyone written up how they go about this, and what sort of exchange (e.g., but not limited to, monetary) takes place with the companies involved?
posted by George_Spiggott at 11:28 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by George_Spiggott at 11:28 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
SNL is as good, or better than it's always been. By that I mean it's generally not very good [...] People forget that there was a lot of really shitty sketches even back in the 1970s.
Yeah, this. There's a reason the episodes regularly get cut down to 1/3 their original running time on the DVDs, and it's not just so they'll fit on the discs.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:30 AM on May 22, 2013
Yeah, this. There's a reason the episodes regularly get cut down to 1/3 their original running time on the DVDs, and it's not just so they'll fit on the discs.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:30 AM on May 22, 2013
Rock Steady!!! That series of sketches (I think I've seen two) is what made me super like/nearing love Aidy Bryant!!
There's a Lily Tomlin vulnerability/realism to her characters, and you can clearly see it here.
posted by MoxieProxy at 11:31 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
There's a Lily Tomlin vulnerability/realism to her characters, and you can clearly see it here.
posted by MoxieProxy at 11:31 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
That series of sketches (I think I've seen two) is what made me super like/nearing love Aidy Bryant!!
There's a Lily Tomlin vulnerability/realism to her characters, and you can clearly see it here.
I think this is why I rarely liked Kristen Wiig's characters, and a lot of it has to do with her attractiveness -- if Aidy Bryant or Lily Tomlin were doing one of Wiig's more annoying characters, the audience wouldn't let a heavyset or plain woman get away with it to nearly the same extent. That vulnerability that Bryant or Tomlin brings to a character is real, where in Wiig's more conventionally attractive case... well, "comedy hot" is a thing for a reason.
posted by Etrigan at 11:43 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
There's a Lily Tomlin vulnerability/realism to her characters, and you can clearly see it here.
I think this is why I rarely liked Kristen Wiig's characters, and a lot of it has to do with her attractiveness -- if Aidy Bryant or Lily Tomlin were doing one of Wiig's more annoying characters, the audience wouldn't let a heavyset or plain woman get away with it to nearly the same extent. That vulnerability that Bryant or Tomlin brings to a character is real, where in Wiig's more conventionally attractive case... well, "comedy hot" is a thing for a reason.
posted by Etrigan at 11:43 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Let's get over ourselves, its comedy. Maybe funny, maybe not, but not really mean spirited.
"Othering"? The english language has enough verbs not to have to make up new ones.
Also, Chris Farley...in a beer ad
posted by C.A.S. at 11:44 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
"Othering"? The english language has enough verbs not to have to make up new ones.
Also, Chris Farley...in a beer ad
posted by C.A.S. at 11:44 AM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
I've also always thought it was amusing that there's this idea that all the SNLs from the 1970s featured the apex of comedy in every single skit and bit. But dispelling that myth doesn't really equate with "SNL is just killing it now." 'Cause it's not.
posted by blucevalo at 11:45 AM on May 22, 2013
posted by blucevalo at 11:45 AM on May 22, 2013
Let's get over ourselves, its comedy. Maybe funny, maybe not, but not really mean spirited.
Oh. Okay. Guess I'll be over here blacking up if anyone needs me.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:46 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
Oh. Okay. Guess I'll be over here blacking up if anyone needs me.
posted by Sys Rq at 11:46 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
"Othering"? The english language has enough verbs not to have to make up new ones.
"Othering" is a perfectly cromulent word. Okay, now that I have that out of the way: Yes, "othering" is a relatively new word. But it conveys a concept well and succinctly, and that's what words are for.
posted by Etrigan at 11:48 AM on May 22, 2013 [16 favorites]
"Othering" is a perfectly cromulent word. Okay, now that I have that out of the way: Yes, "othering" is a relatively new word. But it conveys a concept well and succinctly, and that's what words are for.
posted by Etrigan at 11:48 AM on May 22, 2013 [16 favorites]
Etigran, will you gay marry me? You are one of the few people i've ever (virtually) met who doesn't like Kristen Wiig. She's so Will Farrell-y, and I don't like him, either. They're just manic and spastic, without any spirit. My opinion, and I know it's a minority one.
posted by MoxieProxy at 11:50 AM on May 22, 2013
posted by MoxieProxy at 11:50 AM on May 22, 2013
You are one of the few people i've ever (virtually) met who doesn't like Kristen Wiig.
Yeah, me, too. I mean, some of her schticks are funny on paper, but her delivery is just nails on a chalkboard to me.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 11:55 AM on May 22, 2013
Yeah, me, too. I mean, some of her schticks are funny on paper, but her delivery is just nails on a chalkboard to me.
posted by The Underpants Monster at 11:55 AM on May 22, 2013
I don't dislike Kristen Wiig per se -- I found "Bridesmaids" to be hilarious, and she's always seemed like a decent person when I've seen her interviewed. I just dislike a lot of her characters (probably the highest ratio, and almost certainly the highest number, of any major SNL player), and I never enjoy those periods of SNL history when one person is so clearly the Dominant Force, because for every Buckwheat / Mr. Robinson's neighborhood, you get a couple of Gillys or Canteen Boys or Spartan Cheerleaders that just beat their thin premises into the ground.
posted by Etrigan at 11:56 AM on May 22, 2013
posted by Etrigan at 11:56 AM on May 22, 2013
You can "get over" yourself if you want, and I'm sorry you're offended that not everyone finds this funny, but it is pretty ridiculous. I agree with the fact that this didn't have to be a joke about gay people at all, just over the top weddings. It's specifically to make the, "gay people, amirite?" joke, which, yeah, I find offensive. And "othering" is indeed a way to describe the way this sketch puts gay people in a light as different significantly from straight people, as an "other" (as if straight people don't have "perfect" weddings every day, or low key affairs that include their pets?) I find that offensive and noninclusive, and just downright *strange* as a comedic idea.
And Xanax is actually needed by some folks with anxiety disorders...they sure aren't treating mental anguish with any respect by equating those real problems with something people don't like (over the top weddings).
posted by agregoli at 11:59 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
And Xanax is actually needed by some folks with anxiety disorders...they sure aren't treating mental anguish with any respect by equating those real problems with something people don't like (over the top weddings).
posted by agregoli at 11:59 AM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
Normally I resist the verbing of nouns (haw haw), and I'm even more askance-looking at vaguely accusatory PC-isms. But there's a certain clean elegant efficiency of expression to "othering" that wins my lexical heart.
Kristen Wiig's signature characters don't appeal to me much; there's something too easy about them. But some of her one-offs were just destroyingly funny to me. Ann-Margret throwing away a piece of paper. The midlife TV reporter getting uncontrollably sexually flustered on-camera by January Jones as a 16 year-old fast food worker. The woman is strange and often wonderful.
posted by George_Spiggott at 11:59 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
Kristen Wiig's signature characters don't appeal to me much; there's something too easy about them. But some of her one-offs were just destroyingly funny to me. Ann-Margret throwing away a piece of paper. The midlife TV reporter getting uncontrollably sexually flustered on-camera by January Jones as a 16 year-old fast food worker. The woman is strange and often wonderful.
posted by George_Spiggott at 11:59 AM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
To fight this awful stereotype, we plan to make our gay wedding dreary and depressing. We're starting the reception off with a cash bar and a buffet of week-old sushi rolls, and we'll see how that goes before we bring in a bevy of 70-plus year-old go-go dancers.
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:04 PM on May 22, 2013 [17 favorites]
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 12:04 PM on May 22, 2013 [17 favorites]
George_Spiggott: But some of her one-offs were just destroyingly funny to me.
Her desperately upbeat sweepstakes spokesperson is my favorite.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:06 PM on May 22, 2013
Her desperately upbeat sweepstakes spokesperson is my favorite.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:06 PM on May 22, 2013
We're starting the reception off with a cash bar
***shudder***
posted by MoxieProxy at 12:07 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
***shudder***
posted by MoxieProxy at 12:07 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
I believe that Xanax for Gay Weddings is probably stocked by the same pharmacies offering Ambien for Horses, as seen on Inside Amy Schumer.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:07 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:07 PM on May 22, 2013
Did you know that Taran Killam is married to Cobie Smulders, aka Robin Sparkles?
Aside from Vincent Price (oh god, I like to died), my favorite Bill Hader sketch was definitely Tony the puppet.
And Kate MacKinnon has been amazing from the minute she stepped onstage. She sells EVERYTHING with this crazy-eyed glow; she throws herself into it, no matter what. And she is great with (terrible) accents.
posted by Madamina at 12:12 PM on May 22, 2013
Aside from Vincent Price (oh god, I like to died), my favorite Bill Hader sketch was definitely Tony the puppet.
And Kate MacKinnon has been amazing from the minute she stepped onstage. She sells EVERYTHING with this crazy-eyed glow; she throws herself into it, no matter what. And she is great with (terrible) accents.
posted by Madamina at 12:12 PM on May 22, 2013
"...those who have a crush on Taran Killam and those who will eventually."
I'm focusing all my attention on Jay Pharoah at the moment. My money, too -- I'm banking on him to be the next breakout star.
posted by Capt. Renault at 12:16 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
I'm focusing all my attention on Jay Pharoah at the moment. My money, too -- I'm banking on him to be the next breakout star.
posted by Capt. Renault at 12:16 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
can I ask an off-topic question? If it were up to you, whom would you pick for the SNL Weekend Update desk, now that Seth is leaving?
posted by MoxieProxy at 12:23 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by MoxieProxy at 12:23 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Mulaney seems like a good fit. Particularly as his crazy-promising pilot wasn't picked up.
Perhaps a bit too old for it, but I can see potential for Lutz working the desk. He's unemployed now, right?
posted by Capt. Renault at 12:28 PM on May 22, 2013
Perhaps a bit too old for it, but I can see potential for Lutz working the desk. He's unemployed now, right?
posted by Capt. Renault at 12:28 PM on May 22, 2013
If it were up to you, whom would you pick for the SNL Weekend Update desk, now that Seth is leaving?
John Mulaney / Taran Killiam are the favorites. Taran only if he shows up with a different characterization than typical.
But I'd seriously want another female duo. Kate MacKinnon and Cecily Strong.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 12:28 PM on May 22, 2013
John Mulaney / Taran Killiam are the favorites. Taran only if he shows up with a different characterization than typical.
But I'd seriously want another female duo. Kate MacKinnon and Cecily Strong.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 12:28 PM on May 22, 2013
MoxieProxy: If it were up to you, whom would you pick for the SNL Weekend Update desk, now that Seth is leaving?
John Mulaney really has the perfect tone for it, and it continues the trend (which I like) of having the WU anchor not be a regularly-appearing-in-sketches cast member. It makes the segment seem like less of a sketch and more its own thing, and it makes it even better when they randomly come out from behind the desk for something.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:33 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
John Mulaney really has the perfect tone for it, and it continues the trend (which I like) of having the WU anchor not be a regularly-appearing-in-sketches cast member. It makes the segment seem like less of a sketch and more its own thing, and it makes it even better when they randomly come out from behind the desk for something.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:33 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
my favorite Bill Hader sketch was definitely Tony the puppet.
Mine was Greg is not an alien
posted by Lokheed at 12:35 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
Mine was Greg is not an alien
posted by Lokheed at 12:35 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
I'd vote for John Mulaney, for all of Rock Steady's reasons.
As far as current cast members (alphabetical, repertory players first, because I'm bored at work):
Vanessa Bayer is too youthful, even though making her the anchor would kill the Bar Mitzvah Kid character, which I hate.
Taran Killam, clearly not, for the same reason: he's a great mimic but too boyish for the desk in his regular persona.
Bobby Moynihan is too good as Drunk Uncle and Anthony Crispino to lose if he sits behind the desk.
Nasim Pedrad could do it, but I feel like it would end up being her as Arianna Huffington.
Jay Pharaoh, probably. He can definitely play gravitas.
Jason Sudeikis would be excellent, but he's probably gone anyway, right? Maybe this could drag him back for one more year.
Kenan Thompson... the more I think about it, the more I like it (despite losing Jean K. Jean) -- a huge part of his schtick is the "Can you believe this" face, and WU gives you plenty of opportunities for that.
Featured players:
Aidy Bryant could do it in a heartbeat. She's probably my highest pick from the current cast, but being a featured player, that would be a huge promotion.
Kate McKinnon skews too crazy, and WU needs someone who can be totally straight-faced (that was my major criticism of Meyers -- he was too clearly entertained by the characters).
Tim Robinson needs to establish himself more beyond "that guy who's not Bobby Moynihan" first.
Cecily Strong, maybe, but that kills That Girl You Regret Talking To At A Party, which would be a huge loss.
If they want to go back to two anchors (which had pretty good results and didn't more-or-less force the WU anchor out of all the sketches), any combination of Mulaney, Bryant and Pharoah would work well.
posted by Etrigan at 12:48 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
As far as current cast members (alphabetical, repertory players first, because I'm bored at work):
Vanessa Bayer is too youthful, even though making her the anchor would kill the Bar Mitzvah Kid character, which I hate.
Taran Killam, clearly not, for the same reason: he's a great mimic but too boyish for the desk in his regular persona.
Bobby Moynihan is too good as Drunk Uncle and Anthony Crispino to lose if he sits behind the desk.
Nasim Pedrad could do it, but I feel like it would end up being her as Arianna Huffington.
Jay Pharaoh, probably. He can definitely play gravitas.
Jason Sudeikis would be excellent, but he's probably gone anyway, right? Maybe this could drag him back for one more year.
Kenan Thompson... the more I think about it, the more I like it (despite losing Jean K. Jean) -- a huge part of his schtick is the "Can you believe this" face, and WU gives you plenty of opportunities for that.
Featured players:
Aidy Bryant could do it in a heartbeat. She's probably my highest pick from the current cast, but being a featured player, that would be a huge promotion.
Kate McKinnon skews too crazy, and WU needs someone who can be totally straight-faced (that was my major criticism of Meyers -- he was too clearly entertained by the characters).
Tim Robinson needs to establish himself more beyond "that guy who's not Bobby Moynihan" first.
Cecily Strong, maybe, but that kills That Girl You Regret Talking To At A Party, which would be a huge loss.
If they want to go back to two anchors (which had pretty good results and didn't more-or-less force the WU anchor out of all the sketches), any combination of Mulaney, Bryant and Pharoah would work well.
posted by Etrigan at 12:48 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Sorry, maybe I should have said: everyone has permission to laugh at this.
It's harmless.
posted by 256 at 12:53 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
It's harmless.
posted by 256 at 12:53 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
This isn't a stereotype. It's a joke about stereotypes.
posted by 256 at 1:10 PM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
posted by 256 at 1:10 PM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
because of stefon, when the scene changed to the bar in the new star trek movie, my first thought was, "san francisco's hottest club is..." and i just laughed. cause you know, scotty's friend.
posted by joeblough at 1:26 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by joeblough at 1:26 PM on May 22, 2013
I am currently planning a summer gay wedding in the French countryside. We have met the stereotype... and he is us...
posted by jph at 1:26 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by jph at 1:26 PM on May 22, 2013
This isn't a stereotype. It's a joke about stereotypes.
There's a thin line between the two, and the fact that some people are offended by this indicates that SNL didn't quite make the jump all the way to the other side. We don't get to tell people (especially people with a rather lengthy history of being subject to hurtful -- sometimes literally -- stereotypes) that they're not offended.
posted by Etrigan at 1:32 PM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
There's a thin line between the two, and the fact that some people are offended by this indicates that SNL didn't quite make the jump all the way to the other side. We don't get to tell people (especially people with a rather lengthy history of being subject to hurtful -- sometimes literally -- stereotypes) that they're not offended.
posted by Etrigan at 1:32 PM on May 22, 2013 [5 favorites]
Was it offensive when, in American Beauty, the most functional, attractive and well-adjusted people in the film were Jim and Jim, the gay couple that provided the verfremdungs effect?
There's a difference between a positive caraciture, that is still admittedly a caraciture, and the genuine history of negative stereotypes
posted by C.A.S. at 1:47 PM on May 22, 2013
There's a difference between a positive caraciture, that is still admittedly a caraciture, and the genuine history of negative stereotypes
posted by C.A.S. at 1:47 PM on May 22, 2013
Vanessa Bayer is too youthful, even though making her the anchor would kill the Bar Mitzvah Kid character, which I hate.
I suppose it speaks to the subjective nature of comedy that Jacob the Bar Mitzvah Boy is, to me, the most reliably hilarious recurring WU character outside of Stephon. Having attended what seemed like about a zillion Bar and Bat Mitzvahs in my youth, the parody of the prototypical Bar Mitzvah speech definitely rings true.
posted by The Gooch at 1:51 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
I suppose it speaks to the subjective nature of comedy that Jacob the Bar Mitzvah Boy is, to me, the most reliably hilarious recurring WU character outside of Stephon. Having attended what seemed like about a zillion Bar and Bat Mitzvahs in my youth, the parody of the prototypical Bar Mitzvah speech definitely rings true.
posted by The Gooch at 1:51 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Vanessa Bayer is too youthful, even though making her the anchor would kill the Bar Mitzvah Kid character, which I hate.
I suppose it speaks to the subjective nature of comedy that Jacob the Bar Mitzvah Boy is, to me, the most reliably hilarious recurring WU character outside of Stephon.
I thought it was pretty hilarious the first time. But the only jokes are "Jacob is going to keep reading this no matter what" and "Jacob is a hacky comedian, as kids can be." The first was funny the first time; the second has not managed to get funnier (though I can see what they're going for). So you're wrong. Stop being so wrong.
posted by Etrigan at 1:57 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
I suppose it speaks to the subjective nature of comedy that Jacob the Bar Mitzvah Boy is, to me, the most reliably hilarious recurring WU character outside of Stephon.
I thought it was pretty hilarious the first time. But the only jokes are "Jacob is going to keep reading this no matter what" and "Jacob is a hacky comedian, as kids can be." The first was funny the first time; the second has not managed to get funnier (though I can see what they're going for). So you're wrong. Stop being so wrong.
posted by Etrigan at 1:57 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
This isn't a stereotype. It's a joke about stereotypes.
In what way?
posted by Sys Rq at 2:00 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
In what way?
posted by Sys Rq at 2:00 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Yeah, how is it a joke about stereotypes? I don't find it that nuanced - and I'm extremely skeptical of that kind of nuance from SNL.
posted by agregoli at 2:24 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by agregoli at 2:24 PM on May 22, 2013
the most reliably hilarious recurring WU character
Funniest: The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party
Least Funniest/No Longer Funny: Anthony Crispino
posted by MoxieProxy at 2:31 PM on May 22, 2013
Funniest: The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party
Least Funniest/No Longer Funny: Anthony Crispino
posted by MoxieProxy at 2:31 PM on May 22, 2013
At least SNL can make gay jokes that are based on gay weddings being seen as a normal and expected part of our cultural landscape. Progress, eh?
posted by prize bull octorok at 2:33 PM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
posted by prize bull octorok at 2:33 PM on May 22, 2013 [3 favorites]
Also, if it is a stereotype about how insufferably perfect gays are, I think I'll take it over... oh, you know... a glass bottle in the face.
posted by jph at 2:37 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by jph at 2:37 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone by posting this, and apologies if I did.
I guess I interpreted in the same vein as jokes about "bridezillas" - of course not all women are like that; it's a stereotype rooted in what some people do.
I come from a country where marriage equality is old hat and people don't bat an eye, and I think good natured ribbing is part and parcel of cultural normalization. I actually only came across this after a a couple of friends posted it on facebook, one of whom happens to be gay.
posted by modernnomad at 2:39 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
I guess I interpreted in the same vein as jokes about "bridezillas" - of course not all women are like that; it's a stereotype rooted in what some people do.
I come from a country where marriage equality is old hat and people don't bat an eye, and I think good natured ribbing is part and parcel of cultural normalization. I actually only came across this after a a couple of friends posted it on facebook, one of whom happens to be gay.
posted by modernnomad at 2:39 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
There's a reason the episodes regularly get cut down to 1/3 their original running time on the DVDs, and it's not just so they'll fit on the discs.
Usually it's also music rights which is why a lot of the skits even now don't always make it to Hulu.
I laughed like hell when I saw this. I can totally understand why other people didn't. I enjoyed seeing it here specifically to hear what other people had to say about it.
posted by jessamyn at 3:21 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Usually it's also music rights which is why a lot of the skits even now don't always make it to Hulu.
I laughed like hell when I saw this. I can totally understand why other people didn't. I enjoyed seeing it here specifically to hear what other people had to say about it.
posted by jessamyn at 3:21 PM on May 22, 2013 [1 favorite]
Well, I'm queer, I'm politically active, and I thought it was funny. I thought Dykes to Watch Out For was funny, too.
posted by Dreidl at 3:25 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by Dreidl at 3:25 PM on May 22, 2013
I just remembered that Alison Bechdel's mother died a few days ago; anyone who enjoyed Fun Home or Are You My Mother? (speaking of including plenty of queer stereotypes to good effect) may want to know.
posted by Dreidl at 3:36 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by Dreidl at 3:36 PM on May 22, 2013
My future-sister-in-law sent this to us after visiting a couple weeks ago and trying (unsuccessfully) to get her brother and me to commit to an artistic vision for our wedding. It was not completely unlike this episode of "Disappointing Gay Best Friend." She explained her personal theory of design, which is great because neither of us has a personal theory of design. She feels that it is important to include both the figurative and the abstract. I don't even know what that means, but it involved orchids in the preliminary iterations of the "save the date" card.
Mostly she just wanted practical information, like which year we planned to be married, and on which continent it was likely to happen, and whether we had a "theme." We agreed that we didn't have or want a theme, really. However, I did suggest that since my intended is deeply involved in equestrian matters, we might have a perfect opportunity to do our "first dance" in a two-person horse suit.
posted by jph at 3:43 PM on May 22, 2013 [4 favorites]
Mostly she just wanted practical information, like which year we planned to be married, and on which continent it was likely to happen, and whether we had a "theme." We agreed that we didn't have or want a theme, really. However, I did suggest that since my intended is deeply involved in equestrian matters, we might have a perfect opportunity to do our "first dance" in a two-person horse suit.
posted by jph at 3:43 PM on May 22, 2013 [4 favorites]
Who doesn't love Dykes to Watch Out For?
posted by MoxieProxy at 4:03 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by MoxieProxy at 4:03 PM on May 22, 2013
THIS IS TOTALLY OFFENSIVE TO ME AND MY GAY FRIENDS...because: pastel suits? OMGWTF?! Those hair cuts too. NOPE.
Seriously, I'm attending my first big gay wedding in October and I can't wait. It's a film/movie quality costume gala set in a reconstruction of a North African palace.
My wife is going as a gypsy fortune teller and I'm going to be either the Red Barron or Colonel Angus (cunnilingus from the SNL skit.)
All of us are going to perform in skits, song n' dance numbers and dramatic nuptials.
I can't wait!!1!!!
posted by snsranch at 6:48 PM on May 22, 2013
Seriously, I'm attending my first big gay wedding in October and I can't wait. It's a film/movie quality costume gala set in a reconstruction of a North African palace.
My wife is going as a gypsy fortune teller and I'm going to be either the Red Barron or Colonel Angus (cunnilingus from the SNL skit.)
All of us are going to perform in skits, song n' dance numbers and dramatic nuptials.
I can't wait!!1!!!
posted by snsranch at 6:48 PM on May 22, 2013
THIS is a reason to fall in love with Taran Killam if you haven't already, FYI.
posted by bitter-girl.com at 7:28 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by bitter-girl.com at 7:28 PM on May 22, 2013 [2 favorites]
My wife is going as a gypsy fortune teller and I'm going to be either the Red Barron or Colonel Angus
Colonel Angus. Definitely.
posted by homunculus at 10:20 PM on May 22, 2013
Colonel Angus. Definitely.
posted by homunculus at 10:20 PM on May 22, 2013
Usually it's also music rights ...
Yeah, the music's generally the more accurate reflection, but disallowed. There was a complete stereotypical miss a few years back with a Johnnie Walker ad for lesbian marriage. The music was perfect. The wedding? ... so wrong it was revealing of heterosexual prescriptivism (aka wishful, perhaps wistful, thinking).
Que sera sera.
posted by de at 11:33 PM on May 22, 2013
Yeah, the music's generally the more accurate reflection, but disallowed. There was a complete stereotypical miss a few years back with a Johnnie Walker ad for lesbian marriage. The music was perfect. The wedding? ... so wrong it was revealing of heterosexual prescriptivism (aka wishful, perhaps wistful, thinking).
Que sera sera.
posted by de at 11:33 PM on May 22, 2013
Sorry. It wasn't an ad for lesbian marriage, at all. It was an ad featuring lesbian marriage. But you get my drift.
posted by de at 11:45 PM on May 22, 2013
posted by de at 11:45 PM on May 22, 2013
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