An hour of Ike and Tina Turner, live! Plus more musical clips!
September 9, 2013 7:03 AM Subscribe
Now let's go live with Ike and Tina Turner! That's almost an hour of live clips (via madamjujujive). The same YouTube user who uploaded this also posted a similar set, if not the same thing, labeled "Live in '71." But how could that be, if some of the film was from the Playboy After Dark variety show (SFW Wikipedia page), which was syndicated in 1969 and 1970? What, you're not familiar with that show? OK, this YouTube playlist of musical performances from the show might be relevant to your interests. And don't miss Sammy Davis Jr. doing his thing on the show.
Much as I loved Ike & Tina and Shel Silverstein, one of my favourite memories of PaD is Deep Purple playing "Hush". Rod Evans' skin-tight orange space suit -- too much.
posted by Herodios at 7:57 AM on September 9, 2013
Ike Turner also had one of the first records considered (by some) to be rock-n-roll. Rocket 88 (wiki), credited to Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats.
posted by goethean at 8:10 AM on September 9, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by goethean at 8:10 AM on September 9, 2013 [2 favorites]
This is a GREAT post (especially the Sammy Davis stuff). THANK YOU!
posted by littlemanclan at 8:31 AM on September 9, 2013
posted by littlemanclan at 8:31 AM on September 9, 2013
Ike was one HELLA bandleader. Man, he had that band cranking. A well oiled funk machine. Only James Brown could top him, I think. And Tina was pure electricity. That woman is a force of nature. Onstage at least, damn, what a winning combination.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 8:34 AM on September 9, 2013 [2 favorites]
posted by flapjax at midnite at 8:34 AM on September 9, 2013 [2 favorites]
Tina was pure electricity WITHOUT Ike. And less bruises, too. I fear this combination was mostly a winning one for him, not her.
posted by bearwife at 9:01 AM on September 9, 2013
posted by bearwife at 9:01 AM on September 9, 2013
I fear this combination was mostly a winning one for him, not her.
No Ike and Tina thread would be complete without the obligatory mention of Ike's abuse, I reckon. As though we don't all know about it by now. But that's why I said "onstage": an obvious nod to the well-known fact that their offstage relationship was a nightmare. And so I stand by what I said: his band leading skills and her performance skills was a winning combination.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 9:13 AM on September 9, 2013 [1 favorite]
No Ike and Tina thread would be complete without the obligatory mention of Ike's abuse, I reckon. As though we don't all know about it by now. But that's why I said "onstage": an obvious nod to the well-known fact that their offstage relationship was a nightmare. And so I stand by what I said: his band leading skills and her performance skills was a winning combination.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 9:13 AM on September 9, 2013 [1 favorite]
She was and is awesome without him, for an awesomely long time. I'm pretty sure she remains unthrilled by their combination.
posted by bearwife at 12:56 PM on September 9, 2013
posted by bearwife at 12:56 PM on September 9, 2013
She was and is awesome without him
Didn't disagree with that point the first time you made it, and I don't disagree now! Doesn't mean they weren't awesome onstage together! I'm certainly not alone in the opinion that they were, indeed, awesome together (his incredibly funky and powerful band and her incredible stage persona and voice).
I'm pretty sure she remains unthrilled by their combination.
Tina Turner could not only release a terse statement about Ike upon his death, but could curse his name every day right up til the day she keels over and that still wouldn't change the fact that they were an awesome combination onstage. Haha!
Anyway, if you want to say with all this is that you don't personally find their onstage collaboration enthralling, or to your personal taste, or whatever, fine. If you don't think Ike's guitar playing, band leading, musical arranging, etc were of any merit or value, fine. I'd disagree, but so what, right? People disagree about music all the time. No biggie at all!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:49 PM on September 9, 2013 [1 favorite]
Didn't disagree with that point the first time you made it, and I don't disagree now! Doesn't mean they weren't awesome onstage together! I'm certainly not alone in the opinion that they were, indeed, awesome together (his incredibly funky and powerful band and her incredible stage persona and voice).
I'm pretty sure she remains unthrilled by their combination.
Tina Turner could not only release a terse statement about Ike upon his death, but could curse his name every day right up til the day she keels over and that still wouldn't change the fact that they were an awesome combination onstage. Haha!
Anyway, if you want to say with all this is that you don't personally find their onstage collaboration enthralling, or to your personal taste, or whatever, fine. If you don't think Ike's guitar playing, band leading, musical arranging, etc were of any merit or value, fine. I'd disagree, but so what, right? People disagree about music all the time. No biggie at all!
posted by flapjax at midnite at 3:49 PM on September 9, 2013 [1 favorite]
Once I showed somebody some YouTube clips from Playboy After Dark. He said, "That's like the party scene in Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, except it's real!"
posted by jonp72 at 6:31 PM on September 9, 2013 [1 favorite]
posted by jonp72 at 6:31 PM on September 9, 2013 [1 favorite]
Any time I see Tina, the musical question is "Beyoncé who?" There's soul, and then there's whatever pap Ms. Knowles-Carter peddles.
And Sammy Davis Jr. As long as I'm making invidious comparisons, just his version of "The Man That Got Away" alone is better than the last 20? 30? fill-in-the-blank? bits of contemporary pop music I've heard. Not an unfair comparison, as he was singing a pop song in a pop venue, but his skill, his style, his musicality, all untouchable. I've always thought it sad that he became a figure of fun between his Nehru jacket days, "The Candy Man" and his easily imitated over-the-top reactions, because he was by far the best of the Rat Pack and arguably the best male entertainer of the latter half of the 20th century.
At any rate, thanks for posting these gems.
posted by the sobsister at 6:42 PM on September 9, 2013
And Sammy Davis Jr. As long as I'm making invidious comparisons, just his version of "The Man That Got Away" alone is better than the last 20? 30? fill-in-the-blank? bits of contemporary pop music I've heard. Not an unfair comparison, as he was singing a pop song in a pop venue, but his skill, his style, his musicality, all untouchable. I've always thought it sad that he became a figure of fun between his Nehru jacket days, "The Candy Man" and his easily imitated over-the-top reactions, because he was by far the best of the Rat Pack and arguably the best male entertainer of the latter half of the 20th century.
At any rate, thanks for posting these gems.
posted by the sobsister at 6:42 PM on September 9, 2013
Fuck I love 70s Tina Turner. I have had so many youtube parties in which she is the main feature. Thanks for the post, flapjax, there are a couple of clips here I hadn't seen before.
And Ike's bass is just the *perfect* foil for Tina's treble, as much as he can rot in the ground. Their version of Proud Mary is just amazing - taking it easy and taking it a little bit rough, probably reflecting their relationship at the time.
posted by goo at 7:03 PM on September 9, 2013
And Ike's bass is just the *perfect* foil for Tina's treble, as much as he can rot in the ground. Their version of Proud Mary is just amazing - taking it easy and taking it a little bit rough, probably reflecting their relationship at the time.
posted by goo at 7:03 PM on September 9, 2013
The name's filthy light thief, a mere fan of music, not quite the flapjax font of knowledge and wisdom ;)
posted by filthy light thief at 7:57 PM on September 9, 2013
posted by filthy light thief at 7:57 PM on September 9, 2013
Shit filthy light thief, I'm sorry. Momentary brain fart. Thanks for the post.
posted by goo at 7:59 PM on September 9, 2013
posted by goo at 7:59 PM on September 9, 2013
Many moons ago, probably back in the NBC days, David Letterman did a sketch showing off fake new books. There was a book by Ike Turner called "Womans Be Thinkin Too Much".
posted by neuron at 9:32 PM on September 9, 2013
posted by neuron at 9:32 PM on September 9, 2013
I guess what I mean to say is that I can't watch or listen to this without thinking about how Ike was beating her -- savagely -- behind the scenes.
I'm not talking musical merit, I just have a problem with the pain and abuse that lay behind her music then.
YMMV, that's fine.
posted by bearwife at 4:29 PM on September 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
I'm not talking musical merit, I just have a problem with the pain and abuse that lay behind her music then.
YMMV, that's fine.
posted by bearwife at 4:29 PM on September 10, 2013 [1 favorite]
Well put, bearwife, and your sentiment is very understandable.
posted by flapjax at midnite at 8:40 PM on September 10, 2013
posted by flapjax at midnite at 8:40 PM on September 10, 2013
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