An old view of the Old City
February 15, 2014 9:09 PM Subscribe
I think that the fall of the Ottoman Empire was a terrible thing.
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 10:35 PM on February 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by Katjusa Roquette at 10:35 PM on February 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
Oh to be conquered by an empire that can bestow its delicious, sophisticated and cosmopolitan cuisine on its subjects, instead of the British Empire.
posted by XMLicious at 10:53 PM on February 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
posted by XMLicious at 10:53 PM on February 15, 2014 [4 favorites]
It shows Palestinians of all faiths – Christians, Jews and Muslims – living side by side, and praying side by side.
What kind of utopian fiction is this madness?
"Here we have an Armenian pope."
As one does.
(I'm assuming the sounds are stock sounds? I recognise the chat/call to prayer from a sample of a song. Always wondered what it was.)
posted by Mezentian at 11:13 PM on February 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
What kind of utopian fiction is this madness?
"Here we have an Armenian pope."
As one does.
(I'm assuming the sounds are stock sounds? I recognise the chat/call to prayer from a sample of a song. Always wondered what it was.)
posted by Mezentian at 11:13 PM on February 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
When I see old footage like this, I can't help but think two things: men's fashion (Western suits, anyway) have changed so little in 100 years; and that everyone in this film is long dead.
posted by zardoz at 11:32 PM on February 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by zardoz at 11:32 PM on February 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
They would have to be stock -- this was decades before talkies. I assume the narration is taken from what was originally interstitial title cards. Things like the colored map and the "zoomed" citizenship document have a distinctly mid-20th-century implication to them.
As one does.
One of the quarters of Jerusalem to this day is known as the Armenian, although the community of Armenian Catholics has waned to a few hundred. The religious authority there is a Patriarch, however, not a separate Pope. (Technically it's a Patriarchate or a Patriarchal Exarchate, meaning a delegation of authority.) Anyway, they have a Cathedral, seminary, a well-equipped (American $) library, a museum, and everything. I suspect usage of the word "Pope" was intended to avoid a lengthy explanation but does seem to have confused the level of authority present.
posted by dhartung at 11:44 PM on February 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
As one does.
One of the quarters of Jerusalem to this day is known as the Armenian, although the community of Armenian Catholics has waned to a few hundred. The religious authority there is a Patriarch, however, not a separate Pope. (Technically it's a Patriarchate or a Patriarchal Exarchate, meaning a delegation of authority.) Anyway, they have a Cathedral, seminary, a well-equipped (American $) library, a museum, and everything. I suspect usage of the word "Pope" was intended to avoid a lengthy explanation but does seem to have confused the level of authority present.
posted by dhartung at 11:44 PM on February 15, 2014 [5 favorites]
There's a blog that posts photos of then-Palestine from various archives.
Here what are probably the oldest photos of Jerusalem:
Why Was this Photo Sold at an Auction for more than $120,000?
(A: because it shows Jerusalem in 1844, only five years after Daguerre invented his photographic process)
And here's a sort of follow-up film to the one in the FPP: A 1913 Film of Eretz Yisrael.
posted by Joe in Australia at 12:34 AM on February 16, 2014 [4 favorites]
Here what are probably the oldest photos of Jerusalem:
Why Was this Photo Sold at an Auction for more than $120,000?
(A: because it shows Jerusalem in 1844, only five years after Daguerre invented his photographic process)
And here's a sort of follow-up film to the one in the FPP: A 1913 Film of Eretz Yisrael.
posted by Joe in Australia at 12:34 AM on February 16, 2014 [4 favorites]
As an aside, I am pretty sure it is the same (call to prayer?) in the post - at 43 seconds - as is sampled in this song.
Possibly only of interest to people who remember a mid-level early 1990s goth band from Ohio....
posted by Mezentian at 12:49 AM on February 16, 2014
Possibly only of interest to people who remember a mid-level early 1990s goth band from Ohio....
posted by Mezentian at 12:49 AM on February 16, 2014
> "Here we have an Armenian pope."
That's not the kind of pope you think, it's the OED's pope 2: "A parish priest of the Eastern Orthodox Church"; a few cites:
1662 J. Davies tr. A. Olearius Voy. & Trav. Ambassadors 139 "The other Ecclesiastical Orders are distinguish'd into Proto-popes, Popes, (or Priests) and Deacons."
1756 Compend. Authentic & Entertaining Voy. V. 202 "Every priest is called pope, which implies father."
1996 Daily Tel. 20 Sept. 25/5 "In the non-Roman rites diocesan priests are often referred to as popes."
posted by languagehat at 11:36 AM on February 16, 2014 [2 favorites]
That's not the kind of pope you think, it's the OED's pope 2: "A parish priest of the Eastern Orthodox Church"; a few cites:
1662 J. Davies tr. A. Olearius Voy. & Trav. Ambassadors 139 "The other Ecclesiastical Orders are distinguish'd into Proto-popes, Popes, (or Priests) and Deacons."
1756 Compend. Authentic & Entertaining Voy. V. 202 "Every priest is called pope, which implies father."
1996 Daily Tel. 20 Sept. 25/5 "In the non-Roman rites diocesan priests are often referred to as popes."
posted by languagehat at 11:36 AM on February 16, 2014 [2 favorites]
This is fascinating. Thanks, flapjax at midnite.
posted by homunculus at 12:44 AM on February 17, 2014
posted by homunculus at 12:44 AM on February 17, 2014
When I see old footage like this, I can't help but think two things
I think dammit, when are they going to invent time travel?
posted by TWinbrook8 at 12:57 AM on February 17, 2014
I think dammit, when are they going to invent time travel?
posted by TWinbrook8 at 12:57 AM on February 17, 2014
Oh to be conquered by an empire that can bestow its delicious, sophisticated and cosmopolitan cuisine on its subjects, instead of the British Empire.
If British food were any good, they wouldn't have taken to sailing an immense sea in tiny wooden ships to get away from it.
posted by sebastienbailard at 1:49 AM on February 17, 2014 [1 favorite]
If British food were any good, they wouldn't have taken to sailing an immense sea in tiny wooden ships to get away from it.
posted by sebastienbailard at 1:49 AM on February 17, 2014 [1 favorite]
Here's nickyskye's post on Old photographs of Greece, taken between 1903 and 1920. (I found myself wanting to see them again.)
posted by sebastienbailard at 2:25 AM on February 17, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by sebastienbailard at 2:25 AM on February 17, 2014 [2 favorites]
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