Golden Globe nominations again.
January 20, 2002 2:34 AM Subscribe
Golden Globe nominations again. No sign of Buffy in any category again...
The funny thing to me is that with all the hype Buffy gets, numbers-wise it isn't a widely watched show. Law & Order got snubbed, but they should get another Emmy. Love it.
posted by owillis at 4:36 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by owillis at 4:36 AM on January 20, 2002
I thought the musical episode was good too. But I really hate how "Everybody Loves Raymond" is number 5 on that ratings page. Scary!
posted by Keen at 5:04 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by Keen at 5:04 AM on January 20, 2002
No, what's really scary is that crap like "Inside Schwartz" is in the top 20 on that ratings page... the producers must've sold their souls in exchange for a slot after "Friends." That slot has produced so many bogus highly-rated shows for NBC it's ridiculous.
And for what it's worth, I don't think it's scary to find "Raymond" in the top 5... I think it's a shame the show was snubbed by the (ahem) critics at the Golden Globes.
posted by thatweirdguy2 at 6:57 AM on January 20, 2002
And for what it's worth, I don't think it's scary to find "Raymond" in the top 5... I think it's a shame the show was snubbed by the (ahem) critics at the Golden Globes.
posted by thatweirdguy2 at 6:57 AM on January 20, 2002
It's a little weird that Thora Birch got a nomination for Ghost World in the musical or comedy category, while Steve Buscemi got one for Ghost World in the drama category.
posted by MegoSteve at 7:31 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by MegoSteve at 7:31 AM on January 20, 2002
MegoSteve: Dido was nominated for 'Best Newcomer' at The Brits this year..nothing makes sense anymore...
posted by feelinglistless at 7:42 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by feelinglistless at 7:42 AM on January 20, 2002
Yeah, that *is* strange... but then again, it would be odder if Thora was nominated for a drama, since her performance was comedic... or if Steve was nominated for a comedy, since his performance was dramatic! That's why I hate such genre-specific categories; they're subjective and limiting.
posted by Fofer at 7:45 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by Fofer at 7:45 AM on January 20, 2002
Actually, I just checked, and officially Steve Buscemi is nominated for "Actor In a Supporting Role" -- no "dramatic" tags there.
posted by Fofer at 7:47 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by Fofer at 7:47 AM on January 20, 2002
The only reason "Inside Schwartz" got such great ratings was because of the post-"Friends" slot. But it's gone the way of all the other horrible shows that have had that slot - it's been cancelled and will never be seen again.
It's good to see a show that, even though it gets great ratings, is cancelled by the network because they know it sucks and loses the previous show's lead-in numbers.
posted by braun_richard at 8:10 AM on January 20, 2002
It's good to see a show that, even though it gets great ratings, is cancelled by the network because they know it sucks and loses the previous show's lead-in numbers.
posted by braun_richard at 8:10 AM on January 20, 2002
Halfway through typing my big where the bloody fuck is Gilmore Girls rant I came to the epiphany that it is, in fact, at best a mediocre show, and that I just have a crush on Rory.
As you were.
posted by dong_resin at 8:12 AM on January 20, 2002
As you were.
posted by dong_resin at 8:12 AM on January 20, 2002
I would like Everybody Loves Raymond if Ray Romano wasn't in it. I adore Doris Roberts, and Peter Boyle can do no wrong in my eyes. The only thing that makes Romano's tv series worth anything at all is due to the people with which he has surrounded himself. Had the show been Everybody Loves Frank Barone, I might have tuned in more often.
I'm trying to understand what criteria is needed to aquire an award in Hollywood beyond popularity and asskissing. I can't see anything valid in these awards. It's a beauty contest for actors. Silly.
posted by ZachsMind at 8:30 AM on January 20, 2002
I'm trying to understand what criteria is needed to aquire an award in Hollywood beyond popularity and asskissing. I can't see anything valid in these awards. It's a beauty contest for actors. Silly.
posted by ZachsMind at 8:30 AM on January 20, 2002
Feelinglistless: She isn't in the running for 'Best Newcomer' anymore, she was dropped from the list.
posted by adrianhon at 9:18 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by adrianhon at 9:18 AM on January 20, 2002
Ack, you are right, Fofer. For some reason, they lump all the actors in supporting roles together, and split the "best actor" nods into drama and comedy.
posted by MegoSteve at 9:30 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by MegoSteve at 9:30 AM on January 20, 2002
Oh thank goodness for that. I suddenly has visions of the madness that was The Brits 1989 ...
posted by feelinglistless at 9:33 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by feelinglistless at 9:33 AM on January 20, 2002
It's a little weird that Thora Birch got a nomination for Ghost World in the musical or comedy category, while Steve Buscemi got one for Ghost World in the drama category.
MegoSteve, I think maybe you were skimming the page quickly when you read that. Thora Birch is nominated in the category Actress In a Leading Role - Musical or Comedy, but Mr Buscemi's category is simply called Actor In a Supporting Role. The Lead Actor and Best Picture' categories are split, but for some reason the Supporting Actor, Director, and Screenplay categories are not ... something which I had not noticed before.
I'm trying to understand what criteria is needed to aquire an award in Hollywood beyond popularity and asskissing. I can't see anything valid in these awards. It's a beauty contest for actors. Silly.
I think in this case its an excuse for the Hollywood Foreign Press Association to throw one hell of a party and say "Hey, you did good" to some folks whose work they liked. From what I've read, the reason the Golden Globes are so popular in Hollywood is that they're voted on and given out by a very small group of fairly obscure reporters who (from their track record) seem to be able to strike a good balance between excellent-but-not-big-box-office films and performances (The Shipping News, Hedwig and the Angry Inch) and the truly "popular" films and performances (Legally Blonde, The Others). There is a tendency, I think, in some circles, to assume that if a film does big box office that it can't be a truly "quality" film - which, I must admit, is sometimes my thought as well ... that the Entertainment For The Masses = Crap (see Everybody Loves Raymond, as mentioned above).
I like the Golden Globes. They're fun to watch (actresses in the bathroom when their award is given out, awards being presented by drunken hollywood legends), and they don't pretend to mean more than they do ...
posted by anastasiav at 9:38 AM on January 20, 2002
MegoSteve, I think maybe you were skimming the page quickly when you read that. Thora Birch is nominated in the category Actress In a Leading Role - Musical or Comedy, but Mr Buscemi's category is simply called Actor In a Supporting Role. The Lead Actor and Best Picture' categories are split, but for some reason the Supporting Actor, Director, and Screenplay categories are not ... something which I had not noticed before.
I'm trying to understand what criteria is needed to aquire an award in Hollywood beyond popularity and asskissing. I can't see anything valid in these awards. It's a beauty contest for actors. Silly.
I think in this case its an excuse for the Hollywood Foreign Press Association to throw one hell of a party and say "Hey, you did good" to some folks whose work they liked. From what I've read, the reason the Golden Globes are so popular in Hollywood is that they're voted on and given out by a very small group of fairly obscure reporters who (from their track record) seem to be able to strike a good balance between excellent-but-not-big-box-office films and performances (The Shipping News, Hedwig and the Angry Inch) and the truly "popular" films and performances (Legally Blonde, The Others). There is a tendency, I think, in some circles, to assume that if a film does big box office that it can't be a truly "quality" film - which, I must admit, is sometimes my thought as well ... that the Entertainment For The Masses = Crap (see Everybody Loves Raymond, as mentioned above).
I like the Golden Globes. They're fun to watch (actresses in the bathroom when their award is given out, awards being presented by drunken hollywood legends), and they don't pretend to mean more than they do ...
posted by anastasiav at 9:38 AM on January 20, 2002
Halfway through typing my big where the bloody fuck is Gilmore Girls rant I came to the epiphany that it is, in fact, at best a mediocre show, and that I just have a crush on Rory.
Fast-paced, witty drama with a few big words. How come all the males in the show (around 3) all are very stereotypical? I just imagine 12 year old girls talking about this on the phone saying it's the best show on TV because it's "so smart" and that guys suck.
posted by geoff. at 9:44 AM on January 20, 2002
Fast-paced, witty drama with a few big words. How come all the males in the show (around 3) all are very stereotypical? I just imagine 12 year old girls talking about this on the phone saying it's the best show on TV because it's "so smart" and that guys suck.
posted by geoff. at 9:44 AM on January 20, 2002
Exactamundo.
posted by dong_resin at 10:08 AM on January 20, 2002
posted by dong_resin at 10:08 AM on January 20, 2002
Numbers-wise Buffy isn't a widely watched show, if you think the Nielsen's are an accurate indicator of the numbers, and if you only count domestic viewers.
posted by bingo at 12:12 PM on January 20, 2002
posted by bingo at 12:12 PM on January 20, 2002
I'm just saying teen-y shows like Buffy and Dawson's Creek get tons of magazine covers, etc. but if any of them got those same numbers on ABC/CBS/NBC and probably even FOX it would have been cancelled. 7th Heaven is the highest rated show on the WB but you never hear anything about it.
posted by owillis at 12:17 PM on January 20, 2002
posted by owillis at 12:17 PM on January 20, 2002
teen-y shows like Buffy
hsssssss!
Nielsen's are meaningless, much like the Oscars, Emmys and the VMAs.
7th Heaven is the highest rated show on the WB but you never hear anything about it.
because it fucking sucks. i hate that show. anyone connected to that show should be declared a terrorist and shot, or they should all be given Pretzels-of-Death, or flayed and devoured by small children.
Legally Blonde
wtf??
posted by tolkhan at 1:54 PM on January 20, 2002
hsssssss!
Nielsen's are meaningless, much like the Oscars, Emmys and the VMAs.
7th Heaven is the highest rated show on the WB but you never hear anything about it.
because it fucking sucks. i hate that show. anyone connected to that show should be declared a terrorist and shot, or they should all be given Pretzels-of-Death, or flayed and devoured by small children.
Legally Blonde
wtf??
posted by tolkhan at 1:54 PM on January 20, 2002
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posted by ZachsMind at 4:22 AM on January 20, 2002