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The twenty most hipster neigbourhoods in the world or, where to live if you're sick of Williamsburg.
posted by MartinWisse (72 comments total) 6 users marked this as a favorite
 
Graduate, alternative cinema lover and ‘semi-pro’ photographer? Listen to indie folk, eat organic and drink craft beer. If you have recognized yourself in this description, well, maybe you're a bit ‘hipster’ too.

Fuuuuuuuck youuuuuu
posted by naju at 1:32 PM on July 6, 2014 [11 favorites]


I'm outraged that Mile-End in Montreal didn't make the list.
posted by metameat at 1:35 PM on July 6, 2014 [8 favorites]


1. Skim article for name of town you currently live in.
2. Can't find name? Relax, read article, prepare snarky comment.
3. Find name? Yelp with alarm, prepare preemptive snarky comment.
posted by ardgedee at 1:35 PM on July 6, 2014 [14 favorites]


Oh, please- Bloordale in Toronto is more hipster than, like, half of these neighbourhoods.


You probably haven't heard of it, though.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:35 PM on July 6, 2014 [17 favorites]


Damn, that was pretty much simultaneous.
posted by TheWhiteSkull at 1:36 PM on July 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


Does anything capture the zeitgeist of the garbage chute of the internet more than a list about hipsters?
posted by munchingzombie at 1:39 PM on July 6, 2014 [5 favorites]


Metafilter: the zeitgeist of the garbage chute of the internet
posted by lalochezia at 1:44 PM on July 6, 2014 [24 favorites]


I get that this is a clickbait listicle probably written by someone who has never even been to any of these places, but... the Portland one is so far off the mark it is baffling to me. I could quibble with the New York or Melbourne ones, but the Pearl District? I couldn't disagree more strongly if they'd said Sellwood or the West Hills.
posted by retrograde at 1:45 PM on July 6, 2014 [6 favorites]


No. The article fall down pretty hard. Nørrebro was Copenhagen hipster central in 2000. Laundromat lives off its name now. Nowadays Vesterbro is wearing that vegan-friendly, organic-cotton mantle with pride. Exhibit no. 1: Kihoskh - your bogstandard cornershop stocking craft beer, comics, organic coffee and crusty bread at 3am.

I am not a hipster, but even I freaking know that what worked in 2000 isn't cutting edge lifestyle in 2014.

PS. I miss Vesterbro. Where's an amazing place that serves cocktails named after German philosophers. I mean, who doesn't want a Max Weber or a Walter Benjamin?
posted by kariebookish at 1:46 PM on July 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


Ok, they got Kallio right.
posted by infini at 1:49 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


Listen to indie folk, eat organic and drink craft beer.

What's the label for drinking single malt, eating foie gras and listening to Sting?
posted by infini at 1:51 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


Nørrebro and Vesterbro can eat my shorts, Osterbro4life.
posted by arcticseal at 1:59 PM on July 6, 2014


Coming in to second Mile End in MTL.
posted by Kitteh at 2:00 PM on July 6, 2014


Newtown (the one in Sydney) is way more hipster than Fitzroy.
posted by gingerest at 2:01 PM on July 6, 2014


Dayton, Ohio, snubbed again
posted by dances_with_sneetches at 2:04 PM on July 6, 2014 [11 favorites]


Listen to indie folk, eat organic and drink craft beer.

Indie folk: 1990s trend
Organic food: Dated back to 1939
Craft beer: 1970s!

I'm sorry, but if you're going to play this game, you have to start with some updated references. Here's a few:

Music: sea punk, Burger Records cassette issues
Food: Farm-to-table, $4 toast
Alcohol: Microdistilleries, applejack

And that's just what's hip in Omaha.
posted by maxsparber at 2:07 PM on July 6, 2014 [12 favorites]


more clickbait (The Guardian) I almost posted this to the blue - the content isn't half-bad, and there is a cute graphic - but I figured we'd had enough hipster FPPs.
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 2:08 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


I've never met a single person who'd self-describe as a hipster. It's something you call other people who are either younger than you or dressing more colorfully than you or who care about something you don't.

And as far as I can tell, hating on people who are young and colourfully dressed and care about something doesn't say anything at all about them, but definitely labels you as a crotchety old asshole.
posted by mhoye at 2:09 PM on July 6, 2014 [16 favorites]


(Oh, also: I really liked the conclusion to the article, from Josh, who is profiled in the beginning: "But as Josh says: 'I don't see why you can't just be a guy in east London liking the stuff that's around without being branded as something.'")
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 2:09 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


Forget neighborhoods: I want to set up residence in that yarn shop in Riga. I'm sure the rest of the city is nice, too.
posted by ArbitraryAndCapricious at 2:10 PM on July 6, 2014 [6 favorites]


I work in the Pearl District and it's a bunch of old rich people...
posted by gucci mane at 2:12 PM on July 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


Pretty Euro-centric to for a list that purports to cover 'the world'.
posted by unmake at 2:13 PM on July 6, 2014


Graduate, alternative cinema lover and ‘semi-pro’ photographer? Listen to indie folk, eat organic and drink craft beer. If you have recognized yourself in this description, well, maybe you're a bit ‘hipster’ too.

Fuuuuuuuck youuuuuu


I keep hoping that at some point I can find a somewhat rural area my wife and I can move to that has access to some of those things (with Costco and Trader Joe's within a reasonable drive), without redneck politics ruling the roost. I think it's just a dream. Maybe I'll post a question on Ask MeFi one of these days and start the discussion.
posted by Ber at 2:14 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


The greatest trick the hipsters ever pu... wait. Haven't we had this discussion before?
posted by grumpybear69 at 2:23 PM on July 6, 2014


Ber...Bellingham, Wa should cover you there. Job situation is tough, though!
posted by Jon Mitchell at 2:24 PM on July 6, 2014 [2 favorites]


Well, the picture of Williamsburg is right across the street from my apartment. No hipsters here. They can't afford the rent.
posted by dfriedman at 2:25 PM on July 6, 2014



What's the label for drinking single malt, eating foie gras and listening to Sting?


is this you, or is it someone you know? In the interests of civility, I would need to know before commenting.
posted by philip-random at 2:26 PM on July 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


What's a hipster?
posted by whyareyouatriangle at 2:26 PM on July 6, 2014


keep hoping that at some point I can find a somewhat rural area my wife and I can move to that has access to some of those things (with Costco and Trader Joe's within a reasonable drive), without redneck politics ruling the roost. I think it's just a dream. Maybe I'll post a question on Ask MeFi one of these days and start the discussion.

*cough*Amherst, MA*cough*
posted by oinopaponton at 2:27 PM on July 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


I'm not a hipster, but I do carry the virus.
posted by spoobnooble II: electric bugaboo at 2:29 PM on July 6, 2014 [7 favorites]


What's the label for drinking single malt, eating foie gras and listening to Sting?

If you can leave the iPod at home, the label is "my friend".
posted by arcticseal at 2:30 PM on July 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


philip-random, fire away... there's some hamburgaire meat being tucked under the tongue by the side of the cheek there
posted by infini at 2:34 PM on July 6, 2014


*cough*Amherst, MA*cough*

Yeah, the Pioneer Valley - or further north, pockets of Vermont. Not sure about TJs or Costco though.
posted by lunasol at 2:34 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


I don't own any Apple products, my friend, and I walk without earbuds...
posted by infini at 2:35 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


it's the listening to Sting part I can't help but take issue with * ... and the only truly explosive food poisoning I've had in my adult life came from foie gras. As for drinking single malt, I'm sorry but you're going to have get specific about brands, because I've found it alternately the nectar of gods and the Emperor's New Clothes in action (with various points between).

* though this just popped up on the iTunes shuffle, and it was good.
posted by philip-random at 2:37 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


I think you'll find the Laphroig will cover all the rest of the sins...
posted by infini at 2:42 PM on July 6, 2014 [2 favorites]


The particulars don't matter, the important thing is I get to categorize and judge your tastes vis a vis my tastes and find them wanting.
posted by naju at 2:44 PM on July 6, 2014


Wait, they think the Pearl District is the most hipster neighborhood in Portland? Christ, that basically invalidates the entire article. The Pearl is everything hipsters actively fight against, condominiums and exclusive wine clubs, a population of old rich white people who remain insulated against the ugliness of the rest of the surrounding areas in their perfectly kept little oasis where the police shoo aside anyone not clearly of a certain tax bracket within moments of entering their precious district.

God, I fucking hate the Pearl.
posted by mediocre at 2:46 PM on July 6, 2014 [7 favorites]


Hampden in Baltimore should have been mentioned in this list. I love Hampden.
posted by josher71 at 2:46 PM on July 6, 2014 [4 favorites]


I've never met a single person who'd self-describe as a hipster

I hope we get to meet someday, then.
posted by josher71 at 2:48 PM on July 6, 2014


I finally found our local den of hipsters. They seem to be kids being kids while not hurting anyone in the process. I don't get all the hate. Maybe I'm on the wrong side of the generation gap to understand.
posted by double block and bleed at 2:50 PM on July 6, 2014


keep hoping that at some point I can find a somewhat rural area my wife and I can move to that has access to some of those things (with Costco and Trader Joe's within a reasonable drive), without redneck politics ruling the roost.

West Sonoma County. You have a million dollars to buy a tiny shack, right?
posted by fshgrl at 2:50 PM on July 6, 2014 [2 favorites]


I work in the Pearl District and it's a bunch of old rich people...

I think, in 2014, that the assorted understandings of the word "hipster" have achieved enough collective elasticity that we can go ahead and let all the old, rich people in the Pearl (where I also work) past the velvet rope and on into Hipsterdom, where they can join the rest of us.

Then—with hipsterdom having embraced the entire population—the great clock will reset and we can all go back to our "Death to Disco!" t-shirts or whatever we're supposed to hate next.
posted by mph at 2:51 PM on July 6, 2014 [2 favorites]


I don't know what it's like to live in the other places but Södermalm is great and the main thing preventing me from living there is that the rents are crazy and buying even worse. Hipsters? Not much. Shit, if I could afford Södermalm I would let a couple of hipsters set up a cafe/bike repair shop in my beard.
posted by Foci for Analysis at 3:04 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


Food: Farm-to-table, $4 toast

Here it's expensive renditions of disgustingly unhealthy American fast food. Think Southern-fried hog jowls sourced from heritage-breed hogs, and priced to match. Hipster cuisine is junk food as Veblen good.
posted by acb at 3:07 PM on July 6, 2014 [4 favorites]


What's the label for drinking single malt, eating foie gras and listening to Sting?

Dadster.
posted by escabeche at 3:11 PM on July 6, 2014 [10 favorites]


No Somerville, MA? Literally an hour ago a guy walked past my house playing the ukelele.
posted by nev at 3:11 PM on July 6, 2014 [7 favorites]


West Sonoma County. You have a million dollars to buy a tiny shack, right?

Not quite. I'm going to have to list all my restrictions when I go to Ask MeFi. Expensive areas like this, or MA are definitely out. I'll craft this and post it soon.
posted by Ber at 3:14 PM on July 6, 2014


Yeah, I think the article author has the wrong economic class, though I'm willing to take mph's suggestion. (Minus the death to disco part. There was some decent disco.)
posted by eviemath at 3:20 PM on July 6, 2014


Where is Boise on this list?!?
posted by joseph conrad is fully awesome at 3:21 PM on July 6, 2014


Dayton Ohio hosts the biggest amateur radio event in the world, and thus a lot of beer-drinking bearded guys in check shirts.

Doesn't do so well after that, but give it time.
posted by Devonian at 3:22 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


I've said this before, but if you want to get the economic class right, basically any list will be self-negating, i.e., the up-and-coming exciting cheap places that active (vs. reactive) culture-forming types are living in are places that don't end up on lists by their very nature.
posted by naju at 3:23 PM on July 6, 2014


I've said this before, but if you want to get the economic class right, basically any list will be self-negating, i.e., the up-and-coming exciting cheap places that active (vs. reactive) culture-forming types are living in are places that don't end up on lists by their very nature.


Re: this isn't for aspiring "hipsters" whateverTF that means. This list is for marketing high-end retail.
posted by Reasonably Everything Happens at 3:58 PM on July 6, 2014 [2 favorites]


Hipster cuisine is junk food as Veblen good.

I totally love this sentence.
posted by triggerfinger at 4:15 PM on July 6, 2014


Dayton, Ohio, snubbed again

I liked the Little Miami before it was Great.

This joke's pretty obscure, so you might not get it.
posted by elwoodwiles at 4:23 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


Metafilter: the zeitgeist of the garbage chute of the internet

Increasingly true, and it's kind of breaking my heart.
posted by ryanshepard at 4:37 PM on July 6, 2014


Music: sea punk, Burger Records cassette issues

Heh, I bought a burger records album not that long ago, but vinyl, not a cassette. I wasn't aware they were acquiring a cachet.
posted by vibratory manner of working at 5:03 PM on July 6, 2014


"Hipster" is pretty much a Rorschach word at this point. It has no intrinsic meaning beyond a vague suggestion of "not Walmart or suburban Ohio"; its only use is to tell you something about the person who says it or hears it.
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:05 PM on July 6, 2014


For SF's Mission District, they did at least link to the Precita Eyes Mural Arts Center which is a noble institution helping preserve many of the historic, pre-gentrification murals that are deeply tied to the neighborhood's Latino history and culture.
posted by treepour at 5:10 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


If you take hipster to mean hip or cool or an interesting place to hang out rather than use it as a snide socio cultural judgement then Fitzroy's about 10-15 years off. If you are being snide however then by all means...
posted by threecheesetrees at 5:20 PM on July 6, 2014


The chief purpose of the Pearl seems to have been to soak up the effects of the New York Times blathering on about Portland for the last ten years. If a cursory look makes you think you see a lot of cool kids there, it's because they're panhandling.
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:30 PM on July 6, 2014 [2 favorites]


Colonia Roma, Mexico City (where I live, I admit, but on the outskirts). Just last week, I saw a guy in all seriousness wearing one of those conical Asian hats.
posted by Joakim Ziegler at 5:33 PM on July 6, 2014


Much like Victoria, BC's Chinatown is 1.5 blocks of Fisgard Street plus Fan Tan Alley, I think our hipster district is concentrated into a few square feet of Fernwood. We like our districts micro.
posted by atropos at 5:38 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


I used to listen to indie folk and drink craft beer but then I had a hypsterectomy
posted by oulipian at 5:40 PM on July 6, 2014


Also, what's creepy about Portland is how stunningly quickly a district goes from being hip to being violently gentrified by absolutely rabid developers. It only takes a year or two now. Mississippi Avenue came and went in the early aughts, North Williams even more quickly in the late aughts. Division Street's getting the shit kicked out of it now -- taking a bit longer because there's about a mile of it where those other two were only about four blocks long.
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:41 PM on July 6, 2014 [1 favorite]


Re: this isn't for aspiring "hipsters" whateverTF that means. This list is for marketing high-end retail.

This.

Of the places I'm familiar with on the list: Williamsburg is a dorm suburb for Manhattan financiers, with a few trendy bars styled in last decade's cutting-edge cool; it's sort of where the Greenwich Village was a decade or two ago. The Mission District is all startup Randroids and Google-bus commuters. Fitzroy in Melbourne is also expensive; there are arguably "hipsters" living there, but they're rich kids who bought flats with their parentally-provided trust funds and are spending a few years "finding themselves" making laptop R&B and DJing in bars and generally soaking up the fourth-hand vibe of the vibe of the old Fitzroy full of artists and junkies and sharehouses of post-punk musicians before moving on to careers in media/finance that their parents' connections swing for them. (It's sort of like St. Kilda a decade earlier; the psychological Yarra which divides the posh, bourgeois south and the grungy north is now somewhere past Merri Creek.) As for Dalston, weren't Kanye and Kim meant to open a pair of matching boutiques there a while ago?

The actual vibrant young creative people have been scattered, partly for the opposite of safety in numbers; if they all moved one suburb out, then the yuppies and high rents would follow like the grim reaper and boot them out as soon as a recognisable vibe was forming. So presumably they're spreading out, lying low and interacting over the internet, bands jamming over Google Hangouts and art being exhibited on Snapchat, but otherwise living much like the suburban/small-town teenagers many escaped from being.
posted by acb at 5:43 PM on July 6, 2014 [5 favorites]


I keep hoping that at some point I can find a somewhat rural area my wife and I can move to that has access to some of those things (with Costco and Trader Joe's within a reasonable drive), without redneck politics ruling the roost.

There are a ton of places like that, including where I live, though sometimes you have to be ok with your US Rep being GOP. The upside is the crazy cheap cost of living plus good amenities and no traffic; the bonus (and topical to this FPP) is that you can actually know each and every one of your local hipsters by name.
posted by Dip Flash at 7:35 PM on July 6, 2014


I am a hipster, so this list is very useful to me. Thanks!
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 10:08 PM on July 6, 2014 [3 favorites]


I am a hipster, so this list is very useful to me. Thanks!

Now you too can be a hipster (assuming you have the disposable income to buy in at the top).
posted by acb at 2:35 AM on July 7, 2014


PS. I miss Vesterbro. Where's an amazing place that serves cocktails named after German philosophers. I mean, who doesn't want a Max Weber or a Walter Benjamin?

I want to go to there.

No, really, I do. That place looks awesome. Though the posted menu prices gave me a fright until I realized they weren't in Euros. ("80 euros for a cocktail???")
posted by dnash at 8:13 AM on July 7, 2014


>$4.00 toast
haha. Begs the question what is Hip?

Here is an annual round up of Best American Small Towns 2014

Chautauqua, NY: "Our founders didn't see 'happiness' as a pursuit of material wealth in a marketplace of things," says [Ken] Burns, "but a celebration of lifelong learning in a marketplace of ideas. Chautauqua is that marketplace."

Healdsburg, CA: "The eat-local movement inspired by Bay Area chef-restaurateur Alice Waters has fully flowered in Healdsburg."

Reading a few of these entries you hear some of the quality of life issues we frequently associate with "Hipsters". And then quickly the differences are apparent, which suit the Smithsonian's content: American history, famous residents, landmarks, strong community spirit.
posted by xtian at 9:23 AM on July 7, 2014


Budapest's seventh district used to be hip, and Szimpla used to be a cool ruin bar, and about the next six or seven ruin bars were great hangouts, but over the last three years something like 60 new bars - decked out in faux trash and bad art - have opened in the district and turned it into a consumer nightmare of alco-tourism. If you are backpacking tourist looking to barf with other backpacking tourists, enjoy yourself. I'll be out in other nabes drinking fröccs.
posted by zaelic at 10:14 AM on July 7, 2014


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