Get Ready for Net Neutrality Day 2014
September 9, 2014 7:37 PM Subscribe
We sadly had no posts on the Internet Governance Form or the Internet Ungovernance Form in Istanbul, including Jacob Appelbaum's keynote and a talk by Julian Assange.
ACLU : Don’t Make the Internet Angry
EFF : Towards an Internet Nation?
IGP’s Milton Mueller : Internet Nation?
Also, an unrelated interview with John Perry Barlow : "What stops free flow of information is dangerous"
posted by jeffburdges at 9:12 PM on September 9, 2014 [1 favorite]
ACLU : Don’t Make the Internet Angry
EFF : Towards an Internet Nation?
IGP’s Milton Mueller : Internet Nation?
Also, an unrelated interview with John Perry Barlow : "What stops free flow of information is dangerous"
posted by jeffburdges at 9:12 PM on September 9, 2014 [1 favorite]
It's a good video, sadly I remain pessimistic that in the face of money anything other than what money wants will happen.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:48 AM on September 10, 2014 [2 favorites]
posted by From Bklyn at 1:48 AM on September 10, 2014 [2 favorites]
That doesn't mean we should give up. Rather, it should convince us of the necessity of fighting hard.
posted by JHarris at 2:23 AM on September 10, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by JHarris at 2:23 AM on September 10, 2014 [1 favorite]
Emacs Liver? A vi-tal organ?
(Seriously, whu?)
posted by Chitownfats at 3:40 AM on September 10, 2014 [1 favorite]
(Seriously, whu?)
posted by Chitownfats at 3:40 AM on September 10, 2014 [1 favorite]
Honestly, if you look at the way the internet economy is carved up into monopolies and trusts, do you really think "Net Neutrality" is the issue? If I have to choose between supporting Netflix or Comcast, two companies trying to vertically integrate above a monopoly position, maybe the problem is something else entirely.
posted by ennui.bz at 4:08 AM on September 10, 2014
posted by ennui.bz at 4:08 AM on September 10, 2014
That's true but it'll be a lot easier to fix that those problems when the time comes as long as they don't get to throttle everything not approved down to acoustic coupler speeds first.
posted by mcrandello at 4:12 AM on September 10, 2014
posted by mcrandello at 4:12 AM on September 10, 2014
> It's a good video, sadly I remain pessimistic that in the face of money anything other than what money wants will happen.
It really is a shame that there's no way to form some kind of crowdfunded PAC for people to collectively make counteroffers to the government against some of these companies. If they buy influence, why the hell can't we?
I know there's some kind of crowdfunded thing where they're trying to get politicians elected that will try to eliminate "the system" but that's foolishly optimistic - We need a way to directly compete.
posted by Gev at 5:23 AM on September 10, 2014
It really is a shame that there's no way to form some kind of crowdfunded PAC for people to collectively make counteroffers to the government against some of these companies. If they buy influence, why the hell can't we?
I know there's some kind of crowdfunded thing where they're trying to get politicians elected that will try to eliminate "the system" but that's foolishly optimistic - We need a way to directly compete.
posted by Gev at 5:23 AM on September 10, 2014
Honestly, if you look at the way the internet economy is carved up into monopolies and trusts, do you really think "Net Neutrality" is the issue? If I have to choose between supporting Netflix or Comcast, two companies trying to vertically integrate above a monopoly position, maybe the problem is something else entirely.
Apples and oranges. Netflix has a bevy of competitors, both small and large. On the large end you have companies like Amazon and Hulu Plus, and you'd have more if licensing on a mass scale wasn't made so difficult by the existing entertainment oligopolies. On the small end you have niche offerings like WWE and Crunchyroll, tuned to a specific market or user experience. This is nothing like the home broadband market at all.
posted by teh_boy at 7:47 AM on September 10, 2014 [6 favorites]
Apples and oranges. Netflix has a bevy of competitors, both small and large. On the large end you have companies like Amazon and Hulu Plus, and you'd have more if licensing on a mass scale wasn't made so difficult by the existing entertainment oligopolies. On the small end you have niche offerings like WWE and Crunchyroll, tuned to a specific market or user experience. This is nothing like the home broadband market at all.
posted by teh_boy at 7:47 AM on September 10, 2014 [6 favorites]
(Seriously, whu?)
Vi - a common text editor in UNIX
Hart - an internal organ
After a couple of minutes of head scratching:
Emacs - another common text editor in UNIX. vi vs. emacs a frequent basis for nerd flame wars.
Liver - an internal organ.
I'd make a joke about srboisvert spraining a muscle reaching that far for a joke, but I know that I've reached farther for less.
posted by benito.strauss at 9:47 AM on September 10, 2014 [5 favorites]
Vi - a common text editor in UNIX
Hart - an internal organ
After a couple of minutes of head scratching:
Emacs - another common text editor in UNIX. vi vs. emacs a frequent basis for nerd flame wars.
Liver - an internal organ.
I'd make a joke about srboisvert spraining a muscle reaching that far for a joke, but I know that I've reached farther for less.
posted by benito.strauss at 9:47 AM on September 10, 2014 [5 favorites]
Such is the advanced state of my procrastination that I am really considering dropping everything today and starting an Emacs Liver channel on YouTube.
posted by Wolfdog at 10:03 AM on September 10, 2014
posted by Wolfdog at 10:03 AM on September 10, 2014
(I think it would have been better as Emacs Rooster or Emacs Bull)
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:04 AM on September 10, 2014
posted by ROU_Xenophobe at 10:04 AM on September 10, 2014
Hart - an internal organ
A hart is a deer.
So your joke should have been:
Emacs Limer.
posted by ennui.bz at 10:23 AM on September 10, 2014
A hart is a deer.
So your joke should have been:
Emacs Limer.
posted by ennui.bz at 10:23 AM on September 10, 2014
Everything You've Wanted To Know About Net Neutrality But Were Afraid To Ask
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 10:57 AM on September 10, 2014
posted by ChurchHatesTucker at 10:57 AM on September 10, 2014
ennui.bz: Hart - an internal organBetter != more technically accurate, ESPECIALLY for jokes.
A hart is a deer.
So your joke should have been:
Emacs Limer.
posted by IAmBroom at 12:38 PM on September 10, 2014 [1 favorite]
. Better != more technically accurate, ESPECIALLY for jokes.
but what if it was actually a joke about my own dark slide into internet pedantry? soon to be a new Seth rogen vehicle.
posted by ennui.bz at 5:02 PM on September 10, 2014
but what if it was actually a joke about my own dark slide into internet pedantry? soon to be a new Seth rogen vehicle.
posted by ennui.bz at 5:02 PM on September 10, 2014
ANYWAY, it seems like the protest today has gone fairly well. I just heard that the FCC's website has crashed again from volume of comments.
What does this mean? In a previous thread psoas helpfully informed us on what happens to FCC comments behind the scenes. In short: every comment has to be read by someone and either 1. argued in such a way that convincingly overcomes the objection, 2. addressed in the rule by modifying the rule, or 3. dismissed as irrelevant. Seriously, read the comment I linked. The way psoas wrote it, one gets the sense that (s)he went through a lot of personal employment pain along the way of gathering that information.
posted by JHarris at 7:01 PM on September 10, 2014 [1 favorite]
What does this mean? In a previous thread psoas helpfully informed us on what happens to FCC comments behind the scenes. In short: every comment has to be read by someone and either 1. argued in such a way that convincingly overcomes the objection, 2. addressed in the rule by modifying the rule, or 3. dismissed as irrelevant. Seriously, read the comment I linked. The way psoas wrote it, one gets the sense that (s)he went through a lot of personal employment pain along the way of gathering that information.
posted by JHarris at 7:01 PM on September 10, 2014 [1 favorite]
(At the very least read it to find out what is "the most ethical and professional organization in the USG.")
posted by JHarris at 7:03 PM on September 10, 2014
posted by JHarris at 7:03 PM on September 10, 2014
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posted by srboisvert at 8:31 PM on September 9, 2014