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Why Hamilton is the Perfect Mashup for Every Fandom Writing like you’re running out of time, making an impact on history, sabotaging yourself, stepping in and out of the narrative—could there be a more accurate depiction of what it is to be a fan?
we've not yet reached peak ham. soon, all things shall be ham.
posted by Solon and Thanks at 8:30 PM on January 27, 2016 [11 favorites]
posted by Solon and Thanks at 8:30 PM on January 27, 2016 [11 favorites]
Hamilton is the perfect [blank] for every [blank].
posted by Mavri at 8:36 PM on January 27, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Mavri at 8:36 PM on January 27, 2016 [3 favorites]
Oh I see I have now completely gone over to the crazy Burr stan side as that HP pic with him in Voldemort's role has me annoyed. #burrdidnothingwrong
posted by bgal81 at 8:44 PM on January 27, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by bgal81 at 8:44 PM on January 27, 2016 [1 favorite]
10 Brilliant "Hamilton" Mashups. I particularly like "The Schuyler Sisters" with Beyonce's "Single Ladies" video.
posted by SisterHavana at 9:10 PM on January 27, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by SisterHavana at 9:10 PM on January 27, 2016 [5 favorites]
Force4Ham is such a perfect synthesis of my current obsessions, it's almost unfair.
posted by kmz at 9:17 PM on January 27, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by kmz at 9:17 PM on January 27, 2016 [2 favorites]
I've been thinking about Hamilton a lot since I saw it last week. It does seem like the fact that a vanishingly small number of people have actually watched it in person has made it more powerful, rather than less - which is something I remember from Rent fandom in the mid-90s too. Sitting around listening to this soundtrack and trying to imagine what it looks like in person is something people don't have to do much these days.
For me a lot of the power of the musical in general is that it drops all pretense of strict historical accuracy the second Aaron Burr steps on the stage and he's black. So much of the focus of contemporary filmmaking and TV production has been around slavish, obsessive devotion to getting the period details right, and showing us JUST how the people on Mad Men would have lived. By contrast, we all know Aaron Burr wasn't actually black. But what this does is throw open this imaginary door: all the rules are broken and for the next three hours we can do what we want with American history. Want some of the men to be played by women? Want Laurens and Hamilton to make out onstage? (Um, YES PLEASE.) Want George III to throw down a little pop-n-lock? Anything feels possible. Who knows what they'll do in the touring companies, you know?
This is a feeling I've had reading fic before, but it's not something I've felt so powerfully while actually consuming original works. Because Hamilton is already taking the first step and pulling somewhat of an alt-universe trick right in the production, it feels like it embraces a fandom ethos to an extent I can't say I know of any precedent for. It's as if JJ Abrams had actually reused the script of Star Wars and just genderswapped or race-switched most of the cast. It's sort of an intoxicating, heady power, knowing that door to the infinite possibilities of fandom is already opened, opened by the guy who's in charge, who wrote the script, who plays the main character.
posted by town of cats at 9:23 PM on January 27, 2016 [38 favorites]
For me a lot of the power of the musical in general is that it drops all pretense of strict historical accuracy the second Aaron Burr steps on the stage and he's black. So much of the focus of contemporary filmmaking and TV production has been around slavish, obsessive devotion to getting the period details right, and showing us JUST how the people on Mad Men would have lived. By contrast, we all know Aaron Burr wasn't actually black. But what this does is throw open this imaginary door: all the rules are broken and for the next three hours we can do what we want with American history. Want some of the men to be played by women? Want Laurens and Hamilton to make out onstage? (Um, YES PLEASE.) Want George III to throw down a little pop-n-lock? Anything feels possible. Who knows what they'll do in the touring companies, you know?
This is a feeling I've had reading fic before, but it's not something I've felt so powerfully while actually consuming original works. Because Hamilton is already taking the first step and pulling somewhat of an alt-universe trick right in the production, it feels like it embraces a fandom ethos to an extent I can't say I know of any precedent for. It's as if JJ Abrams had actually reused the script of Star Wars and just genderswapped or race-switched most of the cast. It's sort of an intoxicating, heady power, knowing that door to the infinite possibilities of fandom is already opened, opened by the guy who's in charge, who wrote the script, who plays the main character.
posted by town of cats at 9:23 PM on January 27, 2016 [38 favorites]
I just made a Hamilton joke in the Orgeon thread (about the Malheur NW occupation)! I began listening to the cast album last week and have not stopped. I am officially obsessed.
Now I will go read the article.
posted by rtha at 9:43 PM on January 27, 2016 [2 favorites]
Now I will go read the article.
posted by rtha at 9:43 PM on January 27, 2016 [2 favorites]
We totally sat next to a dude who kept grumbling the entire time about the show. Though, his wife seemed to be enjoying herself so maybe he was dragged along.
posted by kmz at 12:01 AM on January 28, 2016
posted by kmz at 12:01 AM on January 28, 2016
It is hard to imagine how people wind up there not knowing what they're in for at this point. When I saw it a couple weeks ago, it felt like pretty much everyone around me already knew the show intimately, down to the young woman in the next row who would preemptively raise her hand so as to be ready to snap her fingers at particular lines. It's actually a weird experience sitting in a theater full of people who know the material so well, almost like a Rocky Horror screening a little. Laughter preceded some of the jokes.
I'd be curious to see if and how the audience reaction evolves as the crowd shifts from the earliest ticket-buyers to a more general audience.
posted by zachlipton at 12:14 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
I'd be curious to see if and how the audience reaction evolves as the crowd shifts from the earliest ticket-buyers to a more general audience.
posted by zachlipton at 12:14 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
I am feeling jealous of Lin this morning because it is my dream to be in Les Miserables.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 2:46 AM on January 28, 2016 [8 favorites]
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 2:46 AM on January 28, 2016 [8 favorites]
Yeah, and there was a man standing behind is in line to get into the theatre when we saw it the second time who was talking on the phone with a friend about how he didn't know until five minutes before that it was a hip-hop and rap musical. He didn't seem pleased. But I hope he had a good time.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 2:53 AM on January 28, 2016
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 2:53 AM on January 28, 2016
Can I drop my cover of "You'll Be Back " in here?
posted by pxe2000 at 3:56 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by pxe2000 at 3:56 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
A. Ham for all seasons.
posted by Wretch729 at 4:29 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Wretch729 at 4:29 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
In NY Penn Station, there's a full-out ad campaign for Hamilton on the poster boxes, pillars, even stairs leading up to 7th ave. All of the players are photographed in silhouette, essentially hiding the fact of the mostly-minority cast while teasing at it with the tag line "the story of America then told by the America of now".
It's a clever campaign, all told.
posted by dr_dank at 4:40 AM on January 28, 2016 [8 favorites]
It's a clever campaign, all told.
posted by dr_dank at 4:40 AM on January 28, 2016 [8 favorites]
If you go back through my posting history you can see I've been a Hamilton fan from way back. (like Lin, I was converted by the Chernow biography.) I regularly teach Hamilton's Report on Manufactures (it works well with the Communist Manifesto.)
I have literally been waiting to see this musical since the White House preview. I couldn't get tickets to the American song book performances and then the tickets were immediately overpriced and then the MacArthur Foundation ruined it again by giving Lin all that great and well-deserved press.
I already have the thing memorized, obviously, and I hope to finally see it in May.
posted by anotherpanacea at 5:20 AM on January 28, 2016 [8 favorites]
I have literally been waiting to see this musical since the White House preview. I couldn't get tickets to the American song book performances and then the tickets were immediately overpriced and then the MacArthur Foundation ruined it again by giving Lin all that great and well-deserved press.
I already have the thing memorized, obviously, and I hope to finally see it in May.
posted by anotherpanacea at 5:20 AM on January 28, 2016 [8 favorites]
Hamilfandom is a thing of beauty. And honestly gives me nothing but good feelings for young people.
On a related note, Facebook's Timehop rip off thingie informed me a few weeks back that I'd shared Lin-Manuel's White House thing in November 2009.
I reshared it with the comment, "Zeitgeist? I got my fingers all up on it. (6 years!)"
posted by DigDoug at 5:38 AM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
On a related note, Facebook's Timehop rip off thingie informed me a few weeks back that I'd shared Lin-Manuel's White House thing in November 2009.
I reshared it with the comment, "Zeitgeist? I got my fingers all up on it. (6 years!)"
posted by DigDoug at 5:38 AM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
Never underestimate where Aaron Burr might turn up.
posted by delfin at 6:39 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by delfin at 6:39 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
HERCULES MULLIGAN A TAILOR SPYING ON THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT I TAKE THEIR MEASUREMENTS INFORMATION AND I SMUGGLE IT
posted by prefpara at 6:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [12 favorites]
posted by prefpara at 6:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [12 favorites]
Hamilfandom is a thing of beauty. And honestly gives me nothing but good feelings for young people.
I was thinking about this a lot last night when I caught myself doing some sort of dance move I shouldn't have been doing in the grocery store because I had my headphones in and "Yorktown" came on. (I have very sweet battle moves that the stage is not ready for.) I'm 41 years old. If Hamilton had come out when I had the energy of my youth, I would have been ABSOLUTELY INSUFFERABLE about it.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:47 AM on January 28, 2016 [17 favorites]
I was thinking about this a lot last night when I caught myself doing some sort of dance move I shouldn't have been doing in the grocery store because I had my headphones in and "Yorktown" came on. (I have very sweet battle moves that the stage is not ready for.) I'm 41 years old. If Hamilton had come out when I had the energy of my youth, I would have been ABSOLUTELY INSUFFERABLE about it.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 6:47 AM on January 28, 2016 [17 favorites]
We'll Be There (British ladies singing)
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:15 AM on January 28, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 7:15 AM on January 28, 2016 [6 favorites]
HERCULES MULLIGAN A TAILOR SPYING ON THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT I TAKE THEIR MEASUREMENTS INFORMATION AND I SMUGGLE IT
I still hear, "HERCULES MULLIGAN, TEARING THE SPINE OFF THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT".. And picture him in full Predator armor garb.
posted by DigDoug at 8:00 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
I still hear, "HERCULES MULLIGAN, TEARING THE SPINE OFF THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT".. And picture him in full Predator armor garb.
posted by DigDoug at 8:00 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
Oh, forgot to mention this bit of Lin-Manuel Miranda adorableness: Math puns!
posted by kmz at 8:18 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by kmz at 8:18 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
> We'll Be There (British ladies singing)
I think I just died from the adorableness of this.
We will be seeing Hamilton when it comes to San Francisco, and we are also considering a trip to NY - not just for the show, also for Fun Home and also because, hey, we're turning 50 this year and why the fuck not!
posted by rtha at 8:22 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
I think I just died from the adorableness of this.
We will be seeing Hamilton when it comes to San Francisco, and we are also considering a trip to NY - not just for the show, also for Fun Home and also because, hey, we're turning 50 this year and why the fuck not!
posted by rtha at 8:22 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
Anything feels possible. Who knows what they'll do in the touring companies, you know?
Every part will performed by hams, from a Honey Baked to a prosciutto crudo.
posted by octobersurprise at 8:24 AM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
Every part will performed by hams, from a Honey Baked to a prosciutto crudo.
posted by octobersurprise at 8:24 AM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
This goes beyond fandoms, too - the State of the Union, whatever the heck was going on on Twitter with Kanye West yesterday. This analysis makes sense, but think part of it is also just that there's a critical mass of people wandering around with all these lyrics running through their heads constantly.
Does anyone have recs for longer-form pieces about Hamilton? I've read the NYTimes/New Yorker/NY Magazine reviews, but I have no idea where else one goes to read serious theater criticism in 2016. Particularly interested in pieces that engage with the visuals & staging of it - I had this thought when I was watching it that the historical costumes and the modern choreography provide a visual analog for the historical content/modern musicality, but I don't really know enough about dance to pursue that line of thought.
posted by yarrow at 8:58 AM on January 28, 2016
Does anyone have recs for longer-form pieces about Hamilton? I've read the NYTimes/New Yorker/NY Magazine reviews, but I have no idea where else one goes to read serious theater criticism in 2016. Particularly interested in pieces that engage with the visuals & staging of it - I had this thought when I was watching it that the historical costumes and the modern choreography provide a visual analog for the historical content/modern musicality, but I don't really know enough about dance to pursue that line of thought.
posted by yarrow at 8:58 AM on January 28, 2016
Just happen to be listening to the cast recording while at work... awesome
posted by Theta States at 9:19 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Theta States at 9:19 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
I've been doing this for Fallout 4 and it's remarkable how well Hamilton fits. It doesn't hurt that Fallout 4's set in Boston and you've got a companion who's literally dressed up like a Revolutionary War figure or another companion that speaks in a cute French accent. Or that you've got a potentially invasive faction from DC/NoVA ("these Virginians are bird of a feather / Young man, I'm Virginian so watch your mouth / So we let Congress get held hostage by the South?") Or a side quest that allows you to put a radio play/comic book hero "back in the narrative".
And sometimes you get to be just plain horrible.
I have odd feelings about fandom. Being a sports fan feels very different from being so-called fandom trash. I understand loving a creative work and being inspired by it to do stuff, but it's not something I normally do. I don't write fic, I don't draw art, I don't quote things by heart. But this tumblr? It feels easy. Hamilton makes it easy.
(my main problems are 1) I haven't finished the damn game yet, and 2) Tumblr search is horrible so finding a workable gifset or screenshot can be hard)
posted by zix at 9:19 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
And sometimes you get to be just plain horrible.
I have odd feelings about fandom. Being a sports fan feels very different from being so-called fandom trash. I understand loving a creative work and being inspired by it to do stuff, but it's not something I normally do. I don't write fic, I don't draw art, I don't quote things by heart. But this tumblr? It feels easy. Hamilton makes it easy.
(my main problems are 1) I haven't finished the damn game yet, and 2) Tumblr search is horrible so finding a workable gifset or screenshot can be hard)
posted by zix at 9:19 AM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
I am ridiculously obsessed with this musical and wonder how that will impact my seeing it in person.. But in the meantime give me ALL the Hams.
posted by corb at 9:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by corb at 9:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [3 favorites]
I love Hamilton so much that I'm just randomly favoriting comments in this thread to share the burbling brook of glee that spouts from my soul every time this musical is mentioned... Fellow MeFi Hamilton lovers, I salute you all.
It's coming to SF but what I really want to see is the original Broadway cast (whose voices I have memorized from the soundtrack), so whenever I read an interview mentioning the possibility of a movie, I get SO EXCITED...
posted by rogerrogerwhatsyourrvectorvicto at 10:06 AM on January 28, 2016 [9 favorites]
It's coming to SF but what I really want to see is the original Broadway cast (whose voices I have memorized from the soundtrack), so whenever I read an interview mentioning the possibility of a movie, I get SO EXCITED...
posted by rogerrogerwhatsyourrvectorvicto at 10:06 AM on January 28, 2016 [9 favorites]
I understand what you mean. My husband gifted me with a ticket for Christmas and I feel like Charlie with his Willy Wonka bar - I am hoping so hard that all the original cast is still there by the time I see it - most particularly Lin-Manuel Miranda. I am sure I will enjoy it with other voices too, but they have made such a powerful impact on me that those voices ARE the characters for me.
posted by corb at 10:10 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by corb at 10:10 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
Please, please don't worry about the cast you see. Understudies go on all the time, and brilliant people will be hired to succeed this cast. As Lin says all the time, they have a deep bench.
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 10:12 AM on January 28, 2016 [12 favorites]
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 10:12 AM on January 28, 2016 [12 favorites]
It is hard to imagine how people wind up there not knowing what they're in for at this point.
I knew only the vaguest rudiments (I knew it was hip-hop, I'll admit. And I knew it was about Alexander Hamilton. That's it). I'd been meaning to check out the soundtrack because it seemed like it'd be my cup of tea, since I love US history and I love hip-hop. But I'm a busy lady and I just didn't get to it, and then my husband surprised me with tickets for Christmas. And from then on I avoided the soundtrack on purpose because I thought it would be so much more fun to be surprised by it. Which it was, really. I've seen musicals having memorized the soundtrack and I've seen musicals where I've gone in completely cold and I much prefer the latter experience.
The people behind me were talking about "who this Andrew Hamilton guy was exactly" as we were waiting for the show to start...so definitely there were folks in the audience with much less clue than I had.
Honestly, one of my few disappointments was that so many of the songs weren't hip-hop. I guess you can't please everyone all the time.
posted by town of cats at 10:27 AM on January 28, 2016
I knew only the vaguest rudiments (I knew it was hip-hop, I'll admit. And I knew it was about Alexander Hamilton. That's it). I'd been meaning to check out the soundtrack because it seemed like it'd be my cup of tea, since I love US history and I love hip-hop. But I'm a busy lady and I just didn't get to it, and then my husband surprised me with tickets for Christmas. And from then on I avoided the soundtrack on purpose because I thought it would be so much more fun to be surprised by it. Which it was, really. I've seen musicals having memorized the soundtrack and I've seen musicals where I've gone in completely cold and I much prefer the latter experience.
The people behind me were talking about "who this Andrew Hamilton guy was exactly" as we were waiting for the show to start...so definitely there were folks in the audience with much less clue than I had.
Honestly, one of my few disappointments was that so many of the songs weren't hip-hop. I guess you can't please everyone all the time.
posted by town of cats at 10:27 AM on January 28, 2016
yarrow I don't know if this counts as longform but I found this extended blog post about the play pretty interesting. Comments on race, historicity, contemporary politics, etc.
posted by Wretch729 at 10:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by Wretch729 at 10:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [6 favorites]
Yeah? That's comforting. I think I was kind of worried because I know there's no way I'll be able to see it again - but have the understudies been really rocking it?
posted by corb at 11:34 AM on January 28, 2016
posted by corb at 11:34 AM on January 28, 2016
Jon Rua's "Say No to This" and other understudy audio
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 11:43 AM on January 28, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by roomthreeseventeen at 11:43 AM on January 28, 2016 [6 favorites]
oh this is fabulous thaaaaaank you.
posted by corb at 11:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by corb at 11:45 AM on January 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
I don't know if graduate school counts as a fandom, but I and the other folks in my department who are #Hamiltrash talk a lot about dissertation writing like we're running out of time.
posted by ChuraChura at 12:51 PM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by ChuraChura at 12:51 PM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
You can check out the Ham4Hams to see some of the understudies seriously rocking it - my favorites are the genderbent ones (the three King Georges' as the Schuyler sisters was awesome, but the all female "My Shot" kicked it out of the stratosphere) but as near as I can tell they keep getting awesome talent for it and there is no lose.
posted by Deoridhe at 1:31 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Deoridhe at 1:31 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
Jon Rua was Hamilton the day I went and he was great. Eliza's understudy was also performing that day. At first I was disappointed, but in moments it didn't matter. They were both tremendous and as I said in another thread, Rua is actually a stronger singer. So his Hamilton, while different than the version on the soundtrack I knew, was not "worse" in any way.
posted by bove at 2:05 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by bove at 2:05 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
I flew to New York last fall to see Fun Home (well, among other things) and we got an understudy for Sydney Lucas (young Alison). I wasn't familiar with the OC album but I had heard how great she was. After the first 2 minutes with the understudy, I had already forgotten she was an understudy and just enjoyed the show. However much I love the Hamilton OC that I know from the album, by the time I get out there (or to Chicago, or LA, or San Francisco), I'm sure the cast will be different but the show will still be the show and I will enjoy it just as much (although I would be sad if I didn't see Daveed Diggs). I'm a big opera fan (much less experienced with musical theater), and while I understand we all have our favorite stars, the show is a living thing and won't be damaged by someone else stepping into a part.
posted by matildaben at 2:27 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by matildaben at 2:27 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
As far as longer articles go, Vulture loves the show, and celebrated Hamilton Week in honor of Jan 11th, A.Ham's birthday. Interviews with more of the cast, and the musical director, and lovely.
posted by Jesse the K at 3:22 PM on January 28, 2016
posted by Jesse the K at 3:22 PM on January 28, 2016
I've seen Javier Munoz twice, once off-bway and once on, and he is astounding. His performance is different from Lin's in very specific and interesting ways. Anyone who gets to see Javilton is so lucky. This has been a Javi appreciation comment. #javiltonridesagain
posted by ariadne's threadspinner at 5:34 PM on January 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by ariadne's threadspinner at 5:34 PM on January 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
So yeah, now I'm designing a giant 15x18 cross stitch on gold fabric with Hamilton quotes and little icons of brains, snow globe (world turned up side down), dollar bills, hams, burrs, stars, quills...
I need help.
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:58 PM on January 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
I need help.
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:58 PM on January 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
EVERYONE GIVE IT UP FOR AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIGHTING FRENCHMAN
posted by tzikeh at 7:24 PM on January 28, 2016 [11 favorites]
posted by tzikeh at 7:24 PM on January 28, 2016 [11 favorites]
I need help.
I'm sure if you post on jobs you can find another Hamiltrash cross stitcher.
(Finish it within a month so you can post an image here.)
posted by jeather at 7:26 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
I'm sure if you post on jobs you can find another Hamiltrash cross stitcher.
(Finish it within a month so you can post an image here.)
posted by jeather at 7:26 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
My mom and I have tickets to see Hamilton in Chicago at the end of this year. I am so geekily excited.
posted by SisterHavana at 8:42 PM on January 28, 2016
posted by SisterHavana at 8:42 PM on January 28, 2016
I may be responsible for a rather significant percentage of the #ParksAndHam tweets in existence. I have few regrets. (Seriously, I made a lot.)
(I have also written a great deal of a pie-themed version of Hamilton called "Hamilpie," including the entirety of The Ten Pie Commandments, which is available upon request).
My brain has also produced a rough casting of a My Little Pony Hamilton called Hamilpony. Suffice it to say that Pinkie Pie is Hercules Mulligan.
Now I'm reading this and thinking about doing HamilTrek. How do we meme like we're running out of time?
I may be the target audience for this post.
posted by ilana at 9:01 PM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
(I have also written a great deal of a pie-themed version of Hamilton called "Hamilpie," including the entirety of The Ten Pie Commandments, which is available upon request).
My brain has also produced a rough casting of a My Little Pony Hamilton called Hamilpony. Suffice it to say that Pinkie Pie is Hercules Mulligan.
Now I'm reading this and thinking about doing HamilTrek. How do we meme like we're running out of time?
I may be the target audience for this post.
posted by ilana at 9:01 PM on January 28, 2016 [5 favorites]
including the entirety of The Ten Pie Commandments, which is available upon request
um, requested please!
posted by zachlipton at 9:04 PM on January 28, 2016
um, requested please!
posted by zachlipton at 9:04 PM on January 28, 2016
um, requested please! Haha you are going to regret this
Okay, first here's the track list for HAMILPIE:
1. Alexander Hamilpie: "I'm a pieman in the rough, all shiny with Crisco, trying to reach my goal, my pie made of peach, unimpeachable"
2. The Pie-ler Sisters: "Look around, look around, how lucky we are our crust is golden brown"
3/4. Helpless/Satispied: "Look into your pies and the pie's got filling/Down for the count and I'm drowning in it"/ "I remember that pie, I just might regret that pie for the rest of my days"
5. Wait For It: "Pie doesn't discriminate between the sinners and the saints, it bakes and it bakes and it bakes, and we keep pieing anyway, pies rise and crust falls and it breaks and we eat our mistakes"
6. History Has Its Pies On You
7. Non-Stop: "The plan was to eat a total of 25 pies that were divided evenly among the three men. In the end, they ate 85 pies in the span of six months…John Jay got sick after eating five. James Madison ate 29. Hamilton ate. THE OTHER 51. "How do you eat like you're running out of pie?"
8. The Ten Pie Commandments
9. Say No To This (Pie)
10. One Last Pie: "And if we get this right/We're going to teach 'em how to bake a pie"
11. Burned
12. Best of Pies and Best of Women
13. Who Lives, Who Pies, Who Eats Your Pastry
Bonus Track: Caketown (The Cake Turned Upside Down)
posted by ilana at 9:14 PM on January 28, 2016 [18 favorites]
Okay, first here's the track list for HAMILPIE:
1. Alexander Hamilpie: "I'm a pieman in the rough, all shiny with Crisco, trying to reach my goal, my pie made of peach, unimpeachable"
2. The Pie-ler Sisters: "Look around, look around, how lucky we are our crust is golden brown"
3/4. Helpless/Satispied: "Look into your pies and the pie's got filling/Down for the count and I'm drowning in it"/ "I remember that pie, I just might regret that pie for the rest of my days"
5. Wait For It: "Pie doesn't discriminate between the sinners and the saints, it bakes and it bakes and it bakes, and we keep pieing anyway, pies rise and crust falls and it breaks and we eat our mistakes"
6. History Has Its Pies On You
7. Non-Stop: "The plan was to eat a total of 25 pies that were divided evenly among the three men. In the end, they ate 85 pies in the span of six months…John Jay got sick after eating five. James Madison ate 29. Hamilton ate. THE OTHER 51. "How do you eat like you're running out of pie?"
8. The Ten Pie Commandments
9. Say No To This (Pie)
10. One Last Pie: "And if we get this right/We're going to teach 'em how to bake a pie"
11. Burned
12. Best of Pies and Best of Women
13. Who Lives, Who Pies, Who Eats Your Pastry
Bonus Track: Caketown (The Cake Turned Upside Down)
posted by ilana at 9:14 PM on January 28, 2016 [18 favorites]
Now here is The Ten Pie Commandments:
[BURR/HAMILTON/LAURENS/LEE]
It’s the Ten Pie Commandments
[FULL COMPANY]
It’s the Ten Pie Commandments
Number one!
[LAURENS]
The challenge: demand satisfaction
If they give you a pie, no need for further action
[COMPANY]
Number two!
[LAURENS]
If they don’t, grab some dough, that’s your second
[HAMILTON]
You knew you had to make some when the call of pie beckoned
[COMPANY]
Number three!
[LEE]
Roll your dough with parchment in place
[BURR]
Negotiate the pan
[HAMILTON]
You’ve got to make sure it fills the space
[BURR]
Stretch is commonplace, ‘specially with large fruits
[COMPANY]
Most pies contain these attributes
Number four!
[LAURENS]
If it doesn’t cook through, that’s alright
Just watch for salmonella with a doctor on site
[HAMILTON]
He looks at you askance, you double bake it with agility
[BURR]
You know a poison pie can lead to excess liability
[COMPANY]
Five!
[LEE]
Cool dough works the best to make a pie
[COMPANY]
But pick a place to bake where it’s hot and dry
Number six!
[HAMILTON]
Leave a recipe for your next of kin
Tell ‘em where you been. Pray that pastry school lets you in
[COMPANY]
Seven!
[LEE]
Vent your crust. This is the moment of trust when your lattice has its moment
[COMPANY]
Number eight!
[LAURENS/LEE/HAMILTON/BURR]
Your last chance to egg wash your plate
Send in your tasters, see if they can get the moisture straight…
[BURR]
Alexander
[HAMILTON]
Aaron Burr, sir
[BURR]
Can we agree that pies are wise for epicures?
[HAMILTON]
Sure
But your pie has to answer for its curds, Burr
[BURR]
Pumpkin pie? The filling should be stirred, sir
[HAMILTON]
Hang on, how many pies burned ‘cause Sara Lee was poorly made and ruinous?
[BURR]
Okay, so we’re doin’ this
[COMPANY]
Number nine!
[HAMILTON]
Knife upon the pie, aim no higher
Summon all the courage you require
Then count
[MEN]
One two three four
[FULL COMPANY]
Five six seven eight nine
[HAMILTON/BURR]
Number
[COMPANY]
Ten pieces!
[HAMILTON/BURR]
Slice!
posted by ilana at 9:15 PM on January 28, 2016 [36 favorites]
[BURR/HAMILTON/LAURENS/LEE]
It’s the Ten Pie Commandments
[FULL COMPANY]
It’s the Ten Pie Commandments
Number one!
[LAURENS]
The challenge: demand satisfaction
If they give you a pie, no need for further action
[COMPANY]
Number two!
[LAURENS]
If they don’t, grab some dough, that’s your second
[HAMILTON]
You knew you had to make some when the call of pie beckoned
[COMPANY]
Number three!
[LEE]
Roll your dough with parchment in place
[BURR]
Negotiate the pan
[HAMILTON]
You’ve got to make sure it fills the space
[BURR]
Stretch is commonplace, ‘specially with large fruits
[COMPANY]
Most pies contain these attributes
Number four!
[LAURENS]
If it doesn’t cook through, that’s alright
Just watch for salmonella with a doctor on site
[HAMILTON]
He looks at you askance, you double bake it with agility
[BURR]
You know a poison pie can lead to excess liability
[COMPANY]
Five!
[LEE]
Cool dough works the best to make a pie
[COMPANY]
But pick a place to bake where it’s hot and dry
Number six!
[HAMILTON]
Leave a recipe for your next of kin
Tell ‘em where you been. Pray that pastry school lets you in
[COMPANY]
Seven!
[LEE]
Vent your crust. This is the moment of trust when your lattice has its moment
[COMPANY]
Number eight!
[LAURENS/LEE/HAMILTON/BURR]
Your last chance to egg wash your plate
Send in your tasters, see if they can get the moisture straight…
[BURR]
Alexander
[HAMILTON]
Aaron Burr, sir
[BURR]
Can we agree that pies are wise for epicures?
[HAMILTON]
Sure
But your pie has to answer for its curds, Burr
[BURR]
Pumpkin pie? The filling should be stirred, sir
[HAMILTON]
Hang on, how many pies burned ‘cause Sara Lee was poorly made and ruinous?
[BURR]
Okay, so we’re doin’ this
[COMPANY]
Number nine!
[HAMILTON]
Knife upon the pie, aim no higher
Summon all the courage you require
Then count
[MEN]
One two three four
[FULL COMPANY]
Five six seven eight nine
[HAMILTON/BURR]
Number
[COMPANY]
Ten pieces!
[HAMILTON/BURR]
Slice!
posted by ilana at 9:15 PM on January 28, 2016 [36 favorites]
I love you so much.
posted by rtha at 10:59 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by rtha at 10:59 PM on January 28, 2016 [2 favorites]
You are magnificent. And I am so hungry.
posted by pseudonymph at 11:41 PM on January 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by pseudonymph at 11:41 PM on January 28, 2016 [4 favorites]
Bwahahaha wonderful!
posted by Wretch729 at 6:47 AM on January 29, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Wretch729 at 6:47 AM on January 29, 2016 [1 favorite]
I'm very emotional about Hamilton anyway, and I'm also on some pain killers for some Extreme Dental Work I've had done. But it's still weird that I am crying over "The Ten Pie Commandments"; don't get me wrong, it's happy tears. But it's enough that I had to remove my glasses.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 10:02 AM on January 29, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by MCMikeNamara at 10:02 AM on January 29, 2016 [7 favorites]
EVERYONE GIVE IT UP FOR AMERICA'S FAVORITE FIGHTING FRENCHMAN
posted by tzikeh at 7:24 PM on January 28 [5 favorites −] Favorite added! [!]
LAFAYETTE!!!
(what's wrong with you people?)
posted by matildaben at 10:06 AM on January 29, 2016 [12 favorites]
posted by tzikeh at 7:24 PM on January 28 [5 favorites −] Favorite added! [!]
LAFAYETTE!!!
(what's wrong with you people?)
posted by matildaben at 10:06 AM on January 29, 2016 [12 favorites]
But it's enough that I had to remove my glasses.
On the bright side, we know you're not intending to take deadly aim.
posted by zachlipton at 10:16 AM on January 29, 2016 [14 favorites]
On the bright side, we know you're not intending to take deadly aim.
posted by zachlipton at 10:16 AM on January 29, 2016 [14 favorites]
I'm in DC this weekend, and my taxi driver drove right past the Washington Monument and it made get a little teary because Eliza raised money for the Washington Monument, she told his story!
posted by ChuraChura at 10:16 AM on January 29, 2016 [6 favorites]
posted by ChuraChura at 10:16 AM on January 29, 2016 [6 favorites]
Dude, have you tweeted Lin the 10 pie commandments?
posted by purpleclover at 7:18 PM on January 29, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by purpleclover at 7:18 PM on January 29, 2016 [2 favorites]
I did, but haven't seen a response. (Granted, I didn't describe the link, just said "please tell me you've seen this.")
posted by ocherdraco at 9:03 PM on January 29, 2016
posted by ocherdraco at 9:03 PM on January 29, 2016
(Finish it within a month so you can post an image here.)
If I don't make it in this thread, I'm sure it'll make another thread, somehow.
Seriously just spent 4 days trying to cram quotes onto a 15x18 cross stitch...
posted by jenfullmoon at 9:18 PM on January 29, 2016
If I don't make it in this thread, I'm sure it'll make another thread, somehow.
Seriously just spent 4 days trying to cram quotes onto a 15x18 cross stitch...
posted by jenfullmoon at 9:18 PM on January 29, 2016
Wow, I did not expect that type of response to The Ten Pie Commandments. You guys are awesome, and now I can check "made Mefites cry with the power of song parody" off my bucket list.
I had probably too many drinks last night and wound up writing about half of a parody of Satisfied as sung primarily by Mr. Spock, so apparently this is going to be an ongoing problem...
posted by ilana at 12:23 PM on January 30, 2016 [5 favorites]
I had probably too many drinks last night and wound up writing about half of a parody of Satisfied as sung primarily by Mr. Spock, so apparently this is going to be an ongoing problem...
posted by ilana at 12:23 PM on January 30, 2016 [5 favorites]
It will be a real problem if you don't share them, though.
posted by jeather at 10:51 AM on January 31, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by jeather at 10:51 AM on January 31, 2016 [3 favorites]
Not related to TFA, which was great!, but for those of you who are or can be in Atlanta in 2017-18: Wait For It! Broadway Blockbuster Hamilton Headed to Atlanta During 2017-2018 Season at Fox Theatre
posted by one teak forest at 2:36 PM on February 1, 2016
posted by one teak forest at 2:36 PM on February 1, 2016
Podcaster Griffin McElroy (of MBMBaM and The Adventure Zone) is getting trolled by Lin-Manuel lately. Lin-Manuel has been posting videos of various celebrities to tell Griffin that he's doing a "great job" to the MBMBaM Fan group on Facebook. Apparently during the Grammys he will use a hand gesture that will mean "You're doing a great job, Griffin!" So I absolutely have to watch the Grammys this year which I don't think I've ever actually done before.
posted by Green With You at 10:41 AM on February 3, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Green With You at 10:41 AM on February 3, 2016 [2 favorites]
Lin-Manuel has been posting videos of various celebrities to tell Griffin that he's doing a "great job" to the MBMBaM Fan group on Facebook.
#greatjob, though none of the celebs have gotten quite the proper cadence yet.
And that was the turn. Previously he'd been trolling Griffin with Gold Dust pictures. Honestly I keep trying to explain the LMM/MBMBAM stuff to people and it's so hard to do unless you're already familiar with both sides.
posted by kmz at 11:27 AM on February 3, 2016 [2 favorites]
#greatjob, though none of the celebs have gotten quite the proper cadence yet.
And that was the turn. Previously he'd been trolling Griffin with Gold Dust pictures. Honestly I keep trying to explain the LMM/MBMBAM stuff to people and it's so hard to do unless you're already familiar with both sides.
posted by kmz at 11:27 AM on February 3, 2016 [2 favorites]
The **greatjob** horn is one of the greatest thought-inventions of the 21st century so far.
posted by chonus at 1:15 PM on February 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by chonus at 1:15 PM on February 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
It will be a real problem if you don't share them, though.
posted by jeather at 1:51 PM on January 31 [3 favorites +] [!]
Okay, you monsters. I finished my #HamilTrek parody of Satisfied, but it's way too long to post as a comment, so here's the whole thing.
As a preview:
SPOCK: So so so
So this is what it feels like to match wits
With an equal - now I’m torn! Is there a Gorn? What’s the catch? It’s
A transporter beam turning you into light
It’s a Zefram Cochrane warp engine flight,
You see it, right?
The conversation was exactly twelve seconds, three minutes
Everything we said in total agreement, it’s
A dream fall from a neck-pinching stance,
It’s a Tholian Web, a woven intricate dance. He’s a
Bit of a flirt, but I’m ‘a give it a chance
I asked why he was shirtless, did you see his answer?
His hand on his phaser while he looked askance?
He’s bluffing like he’s got some Corbomite in his pants
posted by ilana at 11:50 PM on February 4, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by jeather at 1:51 PM on January 31 [3 favorites +] [!]
Okay, you monsters. I finished my #HamilTrek parody of Satisfied, but it's way too long to post as a comment, so here's the whole thing.
As a preview:
SPOCK: So so so
So this is what it feels like to match wits
With an equal - now I’m torn! Is there a Gorn? What’s the catch? It’s
A transporter beam turning you into light
It’s a Zefram Cochrane warp engine flight,
You see it, right?
The conversation was exactly twelve seconds, three minutes
Everything we said in total agreement, it’s
A dream fall from a neck-pinching stance,
It’s a Tholian Web, a woven intricate dance. He’s a
Bit of a flirt, but I’m ‘a give it a chance
I asked why he was shirtless, did you see his answer?
His hand on his phaser while he looked askance?
He’s bluffing like he’s got some Corbomite in his pants
posted by ilana at 11:50 PM on February 4, 2016 [2 favorites]
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And because I didn't fully believe there was a High School Musical/Hamilton mashup: there is.
posted by zachlipton at 7:27 PM on January 27, 2016 [5 favorites]