Gun Jesus Apocrypha: The Gospel of Browning
December 25, 2016 3:40 PM Subscribe
Ian as Gun Jesus with a Chiappa Holy Trinity
posted by 445supermag at 6:01 PM on December 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by 445supermag at 6:01 PM on December 25, 2016 [1 favorite]
Two Forgotten Weapon threads in less than a week? Hell, if we can keep this up and have non politicized conversations about the history of firearms, I'll be back here every day like I was a decade ago!! (Please; this'd be awesome!)
So for those of you not in the deep geek depths of firearm engineering and design, there are a ton of references here that are meant to pass over your heads, and - honestly, some straight up nonsense that doesn't follow historical accuracy - which Ian is all too aware of, so I can only assume that this is a delightfully meta-narrative on multiple levels.
I won't go far into breaking down the walls, but let's look at the early part where he criticises the wrong parts going into the "perfect" 1911- - yeah the 1911 is one of my favorites, but it only became so after the A1 model years later addressed the shitty ejection port, the grip safety and 'hammer bite', the sloppy trigger, the hard to reach trigger - WW1 frames vs later designs that allowed for easier access to the trigger.. And all the other bits that Browning didn't change, but the users did. Leading to the evolution of the last 30 years worth of 1911 guns from Kimber, Colt, Wilson, etc that all made an old design vastly better by some minor changes.
Book 2; The polymers - I'm not sure where this one was going - speaking to actual 1911 poly replicas, or simply the concept of poly framed semi-automatics that followed the 1911/Browning 9mm designs that have been used as the basis for nearly every semi-auto... Evar.
I don't know. And that is the genius of the Prophet of Ian speaking his words of gospel: we may /never know/ the real truth. But we may guess....
The Browning 1911 was amazing. The later versions fixed the flaws, and the holy and sacrosanct A1 was born {blessed-be-the-trigger-scallops-to-make-it-easier-to-use} [As well as the flat mainspring housing, swelled grip safety and better safety.]
It must be assumed that the heretical later followers would complain about the lack of the Lord's Metal, while not realizing that the H&K took these sacraments and writ them in polymer with the USP. Everything that was good made as good, but lighter.
But many false messiahs came later In the guise of the wicked and poor polys- only to prove the faithful that had adhered to the devout or the faithful (Berettta) could stay sanctified.
posted by quin at 7:17 PM on December 25, 2016 [7 favorites]
So for those of you not in the deep geek depths of firearm engineering and design, there are a ton of references here that are meant to pass over your heads, and - honestly, some straight up nonsense that doesn't follow historical accuracy - which Ian is all too aware of, so I can only assume that this is a delightfully meta-narrative on multiple levels.
I won't go far into breaking down the walls, but let's look at the early part where he criticises the wrong parts going into the "perfect" 1911- - yeah the 1911 is one of my favorites, but it only became so after the A1 model years later addressed the shitty ejection port, the grip safety and 'hammer bite', the sloppy trigger, the hard to reach trigger - WW1 frames vs later designs that allowed for easier access to the trigger.. And all the other bits that Browning didn't change, but the users did. Leading to the evolution of the last 30 years worth of 1911 guns from Kimber, Colt, Wilson, etc that all made an old design vastly better by some minor changes.
Book 2; The polymers - I'm not sure where this one was going - speaking to actual 1911 poly replicas, or simply the concept of poly framed semi-automatics that followed the 1911/Browning 9mm designs that have been used as the basis for nearly every semi-auto... Evar.
I don't know. And that is the genius of the Prophet of Ian speaking his words of gospel: we may /never know/ the real truth. But we may guess....
The Browning 1911 was amazing. The later versions fixed the flaws, and the holy and sacrosanct A1 was born {blessed-be-the-trigger-scallops-to-make-it-easier-to-use} [As well as the flat mainspring housing, swelled grip safety and better safety.]
It must be assumed that the heretical later followers would complain about the lack of the Lord's Metal, while not realizing that the H&K took these sacraments and writ them in polymer with the USP. Everything that was good made as good, but lighter.
But many false messiahs came later In the guise of the wicked and poor polys- only to prove the faithful that had adhered to the devout or the faithful (Berettta) could stay sanctified.
posted by quin at 7:17 PM on December 25, 2016 [7 favorites]
Now - much later we can see the real truth - Poly guns are great. Mods of the 1911 are great.
But only if they understand what the sacred disciple Browning was trying to teach us-
Make it good.
Make it simple.
Make it strong.
Make it better when it can be done.
These are the words of our holiest of holy's.
posted by quin at 7:21 PM on December 25, 2016 [7 favorites]
But only if they understand what the sacred disciple Browning was trying to teach us-
Make it good.
Make it simple.
Make it strong.
Make it better when it can be done.
These are the words of our holiest of holy's.
posted by quin at 7:21 PM on December 25, 2016 [7 favorites]
I hate to break the no-politics ambition of this thread, but I have to say that, as an American in Sweden, it seems like all of my uncomfortable political conversations at the range come from Swedes who are really into .45 ACP 1911s...
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posted by groda at 4:40 AM on December 26, 2016 [1 favorite]
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posted by groda at 4:40 AM on December 26, 2016 [1 favorite]
Book 2; The polymers - I'm not sure where this one was going
The polymer thing was all about Glock, wasn't it? I can remember the publicity about police shooting themselves in the legs, for example, when departments started converting. And the reference to looking like a brick is a standard Glock critique.
Personally the 1911 doesn't fit my hand very well and I find them ugly so I'll never own one, but the one I have shot was nicely accurate and was surprisingly soft on the recoil.
posted by Dip Flash at 8:25 AM on December 26, 2016
The polymer thing was all about Glock, wasn't it? I can remember the publicity about police shooting themselves in the legs, for example, when departments started converting. And the reference to looking like a brick is a standard Glock critique.
Personally the 1911 doesn't fit my hand very well and I find them ugly so I'll never own one, but the one I have shot was nicely accurate and was surprisingly soft on the recoil.
posted by Dip Flash at 8:25 AM on December 26, 2016
I am always amazed at how modern the 1911A1 looks. For contrast, see the Roth 1907 from about the same era.
There's a little more explication on the web page that Ian is reading from, at The Holy Gospel of John (Moses Browning).
posted by the Real Dan at 12:58 PM on December 26, 2016
There's a little more explication on the web page that Ian is reading from, at The Holy Gospel of John (Moses Browning).
posted by the Real Dan at 12:58 PM on December 26, 2016
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