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December 2, 2020 3:47 PM Subscribe
Is that to give the rats time?
posted by mhoye at 3:56 PM on December 2, 2020 [50 favorites]
posted by mhoye at 3:56 PM on December 2, 2020 [50 favorites]
Orgasms are among the most wonderous and pleasurable events we experience as human beings.
Maybe. I just ate a plate of bacon alone in my apartment and went to bed early.
posted by mrgoat at 3:59 PM on December 2, 2020 [71 favorites]
Maybe. I just ate a plate of bacon alone in my apartment and went to bed early.
posted by mrgoat at 3:59 PM on December 2, 2020 [71 favorites]
Ben, the two of us need look no more
We both found what we were looking for
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 4:00 PM on December 2, 2020 [14 favorites]
We both found what we were looking for
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 4:00 PM on December 2, 2020 [14 favorites]
Snitches get . . . never mind.
posted by thivaia at 4:03 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by thivaia at 4:03 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
Props to the paper's authors for including a Buzzcocks quote right off the hop.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 4:03 PM on December 2, 2020 [6 favorites]
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 4:03 PM on December 2, 2020 [6 favorites]
“Come, Pinky. We must prepare for tomorrow night.”
posted by Huffy Puffy at 4:05 PM on December 2, 2020 [22 favorites]
posted by Huffy Puffy at 4:05 PM on December 2, 2020 [22 favorites]
Admit it. You're Fascinated
Couldn't give a rat's...you-know-what.
posted by Greg_Ace at 4:08 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
Couldn't give a rat's...you-know-what.
posted by Greg_Ace at 4:08 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
Good for them
posted by The Power Nap at 4:10 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by The Power Nap at 4:10 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
This has Ig-Nobel winner written all over it.
posted by nickggully at 4:23 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by nickggully at 4:23 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
Having owned rats. And having, accidentally, put a female in the cage. Yes. Loud and squeaky. Next question?
posted by Splunge at 4:23 PM on December 2, 2020 [10 favorites]
posted by Splunge at 4:23 PM on December 2, 2020 [10 favorites]
Obviously, we do not know what it feels like to be another animal (Nagel, 1974). In fact, our empathy and intuition take us only so far in inferring the feelings of other people.
Dang.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 4:25 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
Dang.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 4:25 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
Have not yet read TFA. Came in to say that I know not one but two biologists who know a thing or two about rat sex. One physically demonstrated lordosis to me ("it looks like this!") and the other referred to it as "the booty out dance." I will ask them their opinions on this article and report back.
posted by brook horse at 4:27 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
posted by brook horse at 4:27 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
Came in to say that I know not one but two biologists who know a thing or two about rat sex.
Metafilter:
posted by mhoye at 4:30 PM on December 2, 2020 [8 favorites]
Metafilter:
posted by mhoye at 4:30 PM on December 2, 2020 [8 favorites]
Hey now. Rats are highly intelligent. They can learn. Please don't insult rats.
posted by Splunge at 4:53 PM on December 2, 2020 [2 favorites]
posted by Splunge at 4:53 PM on December 2, 2020 [2 favorites]
I’m glad someone is.
posted by Thorzdad at 5:04 PM on December 2, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by Thorzdad at 5:04 PM on December 2, 2020 [5 favorites]
With all the ratfucking that's been going on in the US recently...
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:07 PM on December 2, 2020 [12 favorites]
posted by Halloween Jack at 5:07 PM on December 2, 2020 [12 favorites]
Rats cannot vomit.
Sorry, that quote was pulled from another thread, but I think it's relevant here as well.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 5:17 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
Sorry, that quote was pulled from another thread, but I think it's relevant here as well.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 5:17 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
As a guy who spent years doing research with rodents, I immediately thought of several people who desperately needed to know about this article
posted by caution live frogs at 6:08 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by caution live frogs at 6:08 PM on December 2, 2020 [1 favorite]
"In the beginning, we were ordinary street rats, stealing our daily bread, and living off the efforts of man's work. We were captured, put in cages, and sent to a place called NIMH. There were other animals there, in cages. They were put through the most unspeakable torture, to satisfy some scientific curiosity. Often, at night, I would hear them cry out ..."
posted by Kabanos at 6:17 PM on December 2, 2020 [10 favorites]
posted by Kabanos at 6:17 PM on December 2, 2020 [10 favorites]
the context reminds me a bit of Doctor Rat by W Kotzwinkle.
(and also that Nat-Lamp tragic-romance lab-rat comics piece, 'Love under Laboratory Conditions')
posted by ovvl at 6:27 PM on December 2, 2020
(and also that Nat-Lamp tragic-romance lab-rat comics piece, 'Love under Laboratory Conditions')
posted by ovvl at 6:27 PM on December 2, 2020
Props to the paper's authors for including a Buzzcocks quote right off the hop.
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 19:03 on December 2 [3 favorites +] [!]
Ahem...except that they incorrectly attribute it to "The" Buzzcocks. Honestly, if they can't get that right how can they expect us to take the rest of the paper seriously?!
posted by senor biggles at 6:38 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
posted by mandolin conspiracy at 19:03 on December 2 [3 favorites +] [!]
Ahem...except that they incorrectly attribute it to "The" Buzzcocks. Honestly, if they can't get that right how can they expect us to take the rest of the paper seriously?!
posted by senor biggles at 6:38 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
TLDR: yes, probably. Better call Betteridge.
posted by SaltySalticid at 6:42 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by SaltySalticid at 6:42 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
Honestly though I thought the abstract and intro had some ok framing but maddeningly seemed to completely ignore the baseline and reasonable expectation that OLR are ostensibly ubiquitous among mammalia, based on centuries of received knowledge, across several orders of non-primate mammals.
posted by SaltySalticid at 6:49 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by SaltySalticid at 6:49 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
Be sure to read or skim far enough to read the details of how researchers stimulated at least one female rat with "a #4 camelhair paintbrush."
posted by adamg at 7:04 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
posted by adamg at 7:04 PM on December 2, 2020 [4 favorites]
This paper is part of the Special Issue: Orgasm: Neurophysiological, psychological, and evolutionary perspectives. More papers from this issue can be found at www.socioaffectiveneuroscipsychol.net
well there goes my weekend.
posted by martin q blank at 7:54 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
well there goes my weekend.
posted by martin q blank at 7:54 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
I had a chemical engineer friend who worked for some big pharma company working on one of the many erectile dysfunction drugs that were all the rage at the time. She said she had a hard time keeping a straight face in the meetings where they discussed the various erection statistics of their rat test subjects.
posted by notoriety public at 8:16 PM on December 2, 2020 [5 favorites]
posted by notoriety public at 8:16 PM on December 2, 2020 [5 favorites]
So rats must also be conscious too then, otherwise that orgasm is wasted.
posted by storybored at 8:25 PM on December 2, 2020
posted by storybored at 8:25 PM on December 2, 2020
Metafilter: Loud and squeaky. Next question?
Oh, and:
Rat erotica.
posted by Paul Slade at 11:25 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
Oh, and:
Rat erotica.
posted by Paul Slade at 11:25 PM on December 2, 2020 [3 favorites]
of course rats like to fuck and orgasm, frankly disappointed by how basic this coomer research is
what i want to know is:
* do rats eat ass or give fot jobs? like what are their pleasures and kinks beyond basic penis stuff
* is it anatomically possible for rats to 69 each other?
* do rats get horny by watching rat porn? what would the porn hub of rat porn look like?
* after orgasm, does the dude rat have a sudden flight response, realizing he has to get up early for work tomorrow but he will totally call or something?
figure 3 on page 6 is straight up rat porn, you know someone had a fun day at the office flexing their drawing skills
posted by Foci for Analysis at 2:40 AM on December 3, 2020 [2 favorites]
what i want to know is:
* do rats eat ass or give fot jobs? like what are their pleasures and kinks beyond basic penis stuff
* is it anatomically possible for rats to 69 each other?
* do rats get horny by watching rat porn? what would the porn hub of rat porn look like?
* after orgasm, does the dude rat have a sudden flight response, realizing he has to get up early for work tomorrow but he will totally call or something?
figure 3 on page 6 is straight up rat porn, you know someone had a fun day at the office flexing their drawing skills
posted by Foci for Analysis at 2:40 AM on December 3, 2020 [2 favorites]
as you can tell i have thought really hard about this
fuck why didnt i go into the rat fucking sciences, i would have killed the game
fuck my school counselor for not leading me down this path to success
posted by Foci for Analysis at 2:44 AM on December 3, 2020 [7 favorites]
fuck why didnt i go into the rat fucking sciences, i would have killed the game
fuck my school counselor for not leading me down this path to success
posted by Foci for Analysis at 2:44 AM on December 3, 2020 [7 favorites]
Who Moved My Jizz?
posted by chavenet at 7:24 AM on December 3, 2020 [1 favorite]
posted by chavenet at 7:24 AM on December 3, 2020 [1 favorite]
To be perfectly honest, I was more interested in the fact that rats laugh when you tickle them.
posted by tommasz at 7:32 AM on December 3, 2020
posted by tommasz at 7:32 AM on December 3, 2020
So that's what the secret of NIHM was all about.
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 8:21 AM on December 3, 2020 [3 favorites]
posted by They sucked his brains out! at 8:21 AM on December 3, 2020 [3 favorites]
do rats eat ass or give fot jobs?
They eat shit right out of their own ass on a daily basis as part of the regular and normal digestive process. I am sure they would eat ass of others if they could obtain consent
posted by srboisvert at 9:22 AM on December 3, 2020 [1 favorite]
They eat shit right out of their own ass on a daily basis as part of the regular and normal digestive process. I am sure they would eat ass of others if they could obtain consent
posted by srboisvert at 9:22 AM on December 3, 2020 [1 favorite]
They eat shit right out of their own ass on a daily basis as part of the regular and normal digestive process.Rats are not cecotrophic; that's rabbits and other lagomorphs.
I have seen our pet rats carefully pick up poop with their teeth, carry it to the bars of their cage, and toss it out onto the floor below, though.
posted by reventlov at 10:28 AM on December 3, 2020 [1 favorite]
MetaFilter: Yes. Loud and squeaky. Next question?
* is it anatomically possible for rats to 69 each other?
Another pet rat owner chiming in.
Yes. Enthusiastically yes. Oh my god, the horrors, the sexy rodent squeaking horrors. They might be the all time galactic champions of 69ing. In any gender combination, sometimes all at the same time if given the chance. Also loud and squeaky.
I'm not surprised by this news. What I'm perpetually surprised about is why the phrase is "fucking like rabbits". Rats make rabbits look positively reserved and Victorian.
posted by loquacious at 8:20 PM on December 3, 2020 [2 favorites]
* is it anatomically possible for rats to 69 each other?
Another pet rat owner chiming in.
Yes. Enthusiastically yes. Oh my god, the horrors, the sexy rodent squeaking horrors. They might be the all time galactic champions of 69ing. In any gender combination, sometimes all at the same time if given the chance. Also loud and squeaky.
I'm not surprised by this news. What I'm perpetually surprised about is why the phrase is "fucking like rabbits". Rats make rabbits look positively reserved and Victorian.
posted by loquacious at 8:20 PM on December 3, 2020 [2 favorites]
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