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"On those occasions when Marxists have engaged the nature of a future socialist society, they too often shied away from problematizing future difficulties in favor of assuring the unconvinced that the difficulties involved in the construction of a socialist society had been vastly exaggerated. Yet working people well understand from their experience of capitalism that building a new society will be far from simple. ... What is instead needed is an honest presentation of the risks, costs, and dilemmas the socialist project will face, alongside credible examples and promising indications of how the problems might be creatively addressed." Sam Gindin lays out a blueprint for the future, in "Socialism for Realists," in Catalyst.
A briefer overview can be found in his interview in Jacobin, "What a Socialist Society Could Actually Look Like."
A briefer overview can be found in his interview in Jacobin, "What a Socialist Society Could Actually Look Like."
So the question is how? history is the beginning of historical materialism [wiki]
especially as economics is the focus of both articles (& even the link out thinking about co-ops [jacobin]) they would benefit from considering this movement in the early 1800s, e.g. "Another significant development made by Owen was the establishment of a village store around 1813. This was run for the benefit of the community and was regarded as an inspiration for the Co-op movement..." [newlanark]
posted by HearHere at 5:20 AM on July 6 [1 favorite]
especially as economics is the focus of both articles (& even the link out thinking about co-ops [jacobin]) they would benefit from considering this movement in the early 1800s, e.g. "Another significant development made by Owen was the establishment of a village store around 1813. This was run for the benefit of the community and was regarded as an inspiration for the Co-op movement..." [newlanark]
posted by HearHere at 5:20 AM on July 6 [1 favorite]
Same publication that still defends the Berlin Wall thinks they can get soclalism right "this time."
Guys, there's a scarce resource: attention. There are only 24 hours in the day, and normal people can only spend a very small portion of it operating under Robert's Rules of Order. That's the fatal flaw here.
posted by ocschwar at 7:10 AM on July 6
Guys, there's a scarce resource: attention. There are only 24 hours in the day, and normal people can only spend a very small portion of it operating under Robert's Rules of Order. That's the fatal flaw here.
posted by ocschwar at 7:10 AM on July 6
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I’m trying to invite people to say, “Let’s all think about this. Let’s think about how the hospitals, the education system could be run. How would an international economy work?”
I don’t know if we can answer it, and I don’t think we should pretend we have to answer that before we move on.
I'm weary of thoughtless accelerationists of all stripes.
posted by snuffleupagus at 5:19 AM on July 6 [2 favorites]