You're No Steve Rogers!
July 12, 2024 10:57 AM Subscribe
The teaser trailer for Captain America: Brave New World has dropped! Looks like a bit of spy thriller and features our first look at Giancarlo Esposito in the MCU.
RED HULK!!!!!
posted by prepmonkey at 11:05 AM on July 12 [5 favorites]
posted by prepmonkey at 11:05 AM on July 12 [5 favorites]
If they're bringing Winter Soldier vibes to the Sam's first official outing as Cap, I'd say that's a good move. Make the story tight and less sprawling than most MCU offerings these days and they will be just fine.
Nice nod to William Hurt's former tenure as Thaddeus Ross!
posted by Kitteh at 11:07 AM on July 12 [4 favorites]
Nice nod to William Hurt's former tenure as Thaddeus Ross!
posted by Kitteh at 11:07 AM on July 12 [4 favorites]
Esposito is such a great villain. The man can radiate menace in stillness as effectively as anyone I've seen on a screen.
posted by mhoye at 11:11 AM on July 12 [7 favorites]
posted by mhoye at 11:11 AM on July 12 [7 favorites]
Somebody on reddit said of Esposito: "He just seems to play characters that straighten their tie a lot."
posted by mittens at 11:14 AM on July 12 [10 favorites]
posted by mittens at 11:14 AM on July 12 [10 favorites]
I am so there. Anthony Mackie does an amazing job as the new Captain America. I kind of hope we get to see what happened to the other Cap - US Agent, maybe?
posted by JustSayNoDawg at 11:21 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]
posted by JustSayNoDawg at 11:21 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Hoo boy, I love Giancarlo Esposito, ever since I saw him in Smoke. He's one of those actors whose performances seem just effortless. I can fully relax whenever he's on screen.
posted by Kattullus at 11:25 AM on July 12 [4 favorites]
posted by Kattullus at 11:25 AM on July 12 [4 favorites]
I’m not sure whether to be impressed or dismayed that they started the trailer with a meta re-casting joke.
On the one hand, Captain America: The Winter Soldier was one of my favorite MCU movies… On the other, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was probably my least favorite MCU TV series. So, fingers crossed!
posted by ejs at 11:31 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]
On the one hand, Captain America: The Winter Soldier was one of my favorite MCU movies… On the other, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was probably my least favorite MCU TV series. So, fingers crossed!
posted by ejs at 11:31 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Harrison Ford, President.
The Falcon, Captain America.
Gus Fring, Bad Guy.
Red Hulk.
Oh yeah!
Jan. 6 vibes.
Asian conflict.
No visible women. (Oh, a blink and you miss it Black Widow...)
Oh no!
posted by chavenet at 11:32 AM on July 12 [4 favorites]
The Falcon, Captain America.
Gus Fring, Bad Guy.
Red Hulk.
Oh yeah!
Jan. 6 vibes.
Asian conflict.
No visible women. (Oh, a blink and you miss it Black Widow...)
Oh no!
posted by chavenet at 11:32 AM on July 12 [4 favorites]
Around the time of the first Obama inauguration, I had the chance to interview him at a showing of a film he produced and acted in (Gospel Hill, I think?). He was one of the sharpest and most engaged individuals I've interviewed. Glad to see him cashing this check with style!
posted by Shotgun Shakespeare at 11:34 AM on July 12 [3 favorites]
posted by Shotgun Shakespeare at 11:34 AM on July 12 [3 favorites]
Fun fact: Joe Biden and Harrison Ford are the same age!
posted by Alex404 at 11:36 AM on July 12 [12 favorites]
posted by Alex404 at 11:36 AM on July 12 [12 favorites]
No visible women. (Oh, a blink and you miss it Black Widow...)
Aha. That's Ruth aka Sabra aka probably one of the major reasons this movie (slated for release now for February 2025) has been having major narrative reshoots throughout the first quarter of this year. Consequently she is now apparently a Black Widow, and not so explicitly a Mossad agent.
I'll leave it to y'all's estimation how well that is playing in a fandom that, ironically thanks to Winter Soldier, became staunchly committed to political reads and metas of the MCU-verse.
(How is this my unbearable mefi brand here? Jeez)
posted by cendawanita at 11:44 AM on July 12 [11 favorites]
Aha. That's Ruth aka Sabra aka probably one of the major reasons this movie (slated for release now for February 2025) has been having major narrative reshoots throughout the first quarter of this year. Consequently she is now apparently a Black Widow, and not so explicitly a Mossad agent.
I'll leave it to y'all's estimation how well that is playing in a fandom that, ironically thanks to Winter Soldier, became staunchly committed to political reads and metas of the MCU-verse.
(How is this my unbearable mefi brand here? Jeez)
posted by cendawanita at 11:44 AM on July 12 [11 favorites]
I am so there. Anthony Mackie does an amazing job as the new Captain America. I kind of hope we get to see what happened to the other Cap - US Agent, maybe?
Justice . . . like lightning! (You get a twofer- USAgent and Bucky Barnes!)
posted by KingEdRa at 11:52 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Justice . . . like lightning! (You get a twofer- USAgent and Bucky Barnes!)
posted by KingEdRa at 11:52 AM on July 12 [1 favorite]
I am intellectually ready for Harrison Ford's old man villain period but I'm not sure how emotionally ready I am.
posted by gentlyepigrams at 12:26 PM on July 12 [4 favorites]
posted by gentlyepigrams at 12:26 PM on July 12 [4 favorites]
> I am intellectually ready for Harrison Ford's old man villain period but I'm not sure how emotionally ready I am.
You either die an action hero, or age into an old man villain.
posted by NotAYakk at 12:27 PM on July 12 [3 favorites]
You either die an action hero, or age into an old man villain.
posted by NotAYakk at 12:27 PM on July 12 [3 favorites]
Do Todd Ziller you cowards!
posted by Artw at 12:29 PM on July 12 [2 favorites]
posted by Artw at 12:29 PM on July 12 [2 favorites]
Florence Pugh is the reason why I'm excited by a Thunderbolts movie because my god, I want that woman to step on me.
posted by Kitteh at 12:34 PM on July 12 [5 favorites]
posted by Kitteh at 12:34 PM on July 12 [5 favorites]
Has Harrison Ford ever done MoCap acting before (aside from the De aging stuff he did in Dial of Destiny) ?
posted by Faintdreams at 12:37 PM on July 12
posted by Faintdreams at 12:37 PM on July 12
It's a good trailer!
I don't really like Mackie as Cap they way they've done it, I love him as Falcon and as a richly characterized non-central role - not a sidekick but a relatable, human-scale hero who wants to be in a support position. He's a soldier, a team player!
Given the foreshadowing though I would not be surprised if their plan is for him to cede the mantle at the end of this, with the shield and regalia being retired like they were in the comics for a while. They flubbed that storyline in Falcon & Winter Soldier IMO (based on my favorite run of Cap in history) but can reuse parts of it and give Mackie a good exit.
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 12:38 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
I don't really like Mackie as Cap they way they've done it, I love him as Falcon and as a richly characterized non-central role - not a sidekick but a relatable, human-scale hero who wants to be in a support position. He's a soldier, a team player!
Given the foreshadowing though I would not be surprised if their plan is for him to cede the mantle at the end of this, with the shield and regalia being retired like they were in the comics for a while. They flubbed that storyline in Falcon & Winter Soldier IMO (based on my favorite run of Cap in history) but can reuse parts of it and give Mackie a good exit.
posted by BlackLeotardFront at 12:38 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Aha. That's Ruth aka Sabra aka probably one of the major reasons this movie (slated for release now for February 2025) has been having major narrative reshoots throughout the first quarter of this year. Consequently she is now apparently a Black Widow, and not so explicitly a Mossad agent.
Here's a Nerdist piece on the problematic inclusion of Sabra in the film.
A fair number of folks I follow online are planning to boycott the film over her inclusion and had hoped the extensive reshoots were going to remove the character.
posted by Atreides at 1:05 PM on July 12 [8 favorites]
Here's a Nerdist piece on the problematic inclusion of Sabra in the film.
A fair number of folks I follow online are planning to boycott the film over her inclusion and had hoped the extensive reshoots were going to remove the character.
posted by Atreides at 1:05 PM on July 12 [8 favorites]
Atreides, thank you. i also appreciated the link out [offcolor]
posted by HearHere at 1:11 PM on July 12 [2 favorites]
posted by HearHere at 1:11 PM on July 12 [2 favorites]
No visible women. (Oh, a blink and you miss it Black Widow...)
Not in the trailer, but we're also getting Rosa Salazar (of Alita: Battle Angel and Birdbox fame) as Rachel Leighton / Diamondback.
posted by hanov3r at 2:30 PM on July 12 [3 favorites]
Not in the trailer, but we're also getting Rosa Salazar (of Alita: Battle Angel and Birdbox fame) as Rachel Leighton / Diamondback.
posted by hanov3r at 2:30 PM on July 12 [3 favorites]
I was promised the return of Tim Blake Nelson as The Leader... An I not going to get it in this movie at all, or is he just not in the trailer?
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 2:41 PM on July 12
posted by Pickman's Next Top Model at 2:41 PM on July 12
You can hear his voice as part of the voiceover. He will be in it!
posted by Kitteh at 3:10 PM on July 12
posted by Kitteh at 3:10 PM on July 12
As a reminder to anyone who cares, Marvel was added to the BDS list because of this movie specifically. It should be considered a specific BDS target.
posted by adrienneleigh at 3:18 PM on July 12 [9 favorites]
posted by adrienneleigh at 3:18 PM on July 12 [9 favorites]
Not to derail but if you do want to see Harrison Ford playing against type and doing it very well then check out What Lies Beneath with Michelle Pfeiffer.
posted by panhopticon at 3:26 PM on July 12 [3 favorites]
posted by panhopticon at 3:26 PM on July 12 [3 favorites]
No visible women.
So Sue Storm hasn't been ruled out, then?
posted by Parasite Unseen at 3:47 PM on July 12 [16 favorites]
So Sue Storm hasn't been ruled out, then?
posted by Parasite Unseen at 3:47 PM on July 12 [16 favorites]
In addition to Winter Soldier/White Wolf (Sebastian Stan), US Agent (Wyatt Russell), and Black Widow (Florence Pugh), Thunderbolts will have:
- Taskmaster (Olga Kurylenko)
- Ghost (Hannah John-Kamen)
- Red Guardian (David Harbour)
- Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (Julia Louis-Dreyfus)
Since it also has Ford, and we saw Val and US Agent in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, I'm assuming that it ties into this movie.
posted by Halloween Jack at 3:54 PM on July 12
- Taskmaster (Olga Kurylenko)
- Ghost (Hannah John-Kamen)
- Red Guardian (David Harbour)
- Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (Julia Louis-Dreyfus)
Since it also has Ford, and we saw Val and US Agent in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, I'm assuming that it ties into this movie.
posted by Halloween Jack at 3:54 PM on July 12
The only other person that absolutely needs to be in it is Bucky and there was a glimpse of him in there.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:04 PM on July 12
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 4:04 PM on July 12
This feels like it has CA:Winter Soldier vibes to it and I'm all for it.
I do still feel a little nostalgic for Steve though. Just watched the scene of him going through the Smithsonian exhibit and then visiting Peggy and got misty eyed about it.
Good choice to emphasize that Sam is not Steve because that's going to be something everyone thinks about with it. It certainly hampered the series.
posted by drewbage1847 at 4:16 PM on July 12
I do still feel a little nostalgic for Steve though. Just watched the scene of him going through the Smithsonian exhibit and then visiting Peggy and got misty eyed about it.
Good choice to emphasize that Sam is not Steve because that's going to be something everyone thinks about with it. It certainly hampered the series.
posted by drewbage1847 at 4:16 PM on July 12
Now they have an army AND a Hulk!
posted by The Pluto Gangsta at 4:32 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
posted by The Pluto Gangsta at 4:32 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
The wings and the shield together just don't work for me. Can Sam Wilson pat his head and rub his tummy at the same time? If not, I don't see how he can work the wings and wield the shield at once.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 4:43 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
posted by kittens for breakfast at 4:43 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
I don't see how he can work the wings and wield the shield at once.
An early scene of the movie shows them attaching Bucky's arm right under his real one, followed by a training montage where he learns new forms of hand-to-hand-to-hand combat.
posted by notoriety public at 5:00 PM on July 12
An early scene of the movie shows them attaching Bucky's arm right under his real one, followed by a training montage where he learns new forms of hand-to-hand-to-hand combat.
posted by notoriety public at 5:00 PM on July 12
I am way out of the MCU loop. Does new Captain America have the same supersoldier powers as old Captain America? Or is he just a regular dude with a shield?
posted by qxntpqbbbqxl at 5:17 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
posted by qxntpqbbbqxl at 5:17 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Apparently Giancarlo Esposito (prominent in the trailer) and Rosa Salazar (not in the trailer at all because woman) were both added to the movie during reshoots. This thing is going to be an absolute mess of a film.
Has Harrison Ford ever done MoCap acting before .
In a mo cap suit? Not that I'm aware of. But you have to see this behind the scenes footage of him acting with the human stand-in for the CGI dog in The Call of the Wild
posted by thecjm at 5:23 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Has Harrison Ford ever done MoCap acting before .
In a mo cap suit? Not that I'm aware of. But you have to see this behind the scenes footage of him acting with the human stand-in for the CGI dog in The Call of the Wild
posted by thecjm at 5:23 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Or is he just a regular dude with a shield?
"This guy's a super? His real name's Clarence!"
posted by automatronic at 5:39 PM on July 12 [4 favorites]
"This guy's a super? His real name's Clarence!"
posted by automatronic at 5:39 PM on July 12 [4 favorites]
New cap is a regular guy with a fancy suit that enables him to fly. Plus the frisbee!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:44 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:44 PM on July 12 [1 favorite]
Here's a Nerdist piece on the problematic inclusion of Sabra in the film.
I remember reading the article and boy, I can't wait to see how the movie remixes apparently a canon event where Sabra needs to start out racist against Palestinians until the Hulk (or in this case, a Hulk) tells her off? /s maybe it's the kind of narrative moral handholding needed by many I guess.
posted by cendawanita at 6:01 PM on July 12
I remember reading the article and boy, I can't wait to see how the movie remixes apparently a canon event where Sabra needs to start out racist against Palestinians until the Hulk (or in this case, a Hulk) tells her off? /s maybe it's the kind of narrative moral handholding needed by many I guess.
posted by cendawanita at 6:01 PM on July 12
And while you're watching the movie, please stop by the concession stand to order the Jumbo Popcorn/Soma combo! Made proudly by our workers in Iceland.
posted by not_on_display at 7:25 PM on July 12
posted by not_on_display at 7:25 PM on July 12
Esposito is such a great villain. The man can radiate menace in stillness as effectively as anyone I've seen on a screen.
posted by mhoye at 11:11 AM on July 12 [7 favorites +] [⚑]
cf: Yoyo! from "Night on Earth." (one of the all time greatest shorts ever ! Ever! )
This looks ... super-heroic. In a good way. (I'm pro-Mackie : "Beyond the Wire" is worth a watch and a re-watch)
posted by From Bklyn at 9:39 AM on July 13
posted by mhoye at 11:11 AM on July 12 [7 favorites +] [⚑]
cf: Yoyo! from "Night on Earth." (one of the all time greatest shorts ever ! Ever! )
This looks ... super-heroic. In a good way. (I'm pro-Mackie : "Beyond the Wire" is worth a watch and a re-watch)
posted by From Bklyn at 9:39 AM on July 13
If there is one thing I want for this movie, above all else, it is to see the Red Hulk raising up the Harrison Ford Pointer Finger of Doom.
posted by wabbittwax at 4:08 AM on July 14
posted by wabbittwax at 4:08 AM on July 14
“That’s my secret, Captain, I’m always pointing.”
posted by wabbittwax at 4:09 AM on July 14 [1 favorite]
posted by wabbittwax at 4:09 AM on July 14 [1 favorite]
Does new Captain America have the same supersoldier powers as old Captain America? Or is he just a regular dude with a shield?
For a while in the comic books, just being trained by Cap gave even civilians such as Mary Jane Watson-Parker an edge over at least run-of-the-mill muggers or thugs, etc. I'm sure Sam has at least that much training.
posted by Gelatin at 6:57 AM on July 15
For a while in the comic books, just being trained by Cap gave even civilians such as Mary Jane Watson-Parker an edge over at least run-of-the-mill muggers or thugs, etc. I'm sure Sam has at least that much training.
posted by Gelatin at 6:57 AM on July 15
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posted by HearHere at 11:05 AM on July 12