Content note: “comedy”
August 15, 2024 10:21 PM Subscribe
The rape joke is you went home like nothing happened
I’m not saying anything original. Misogynist jokes, like all misogynist discourse, are usually unoriginal and derivative, as derivative as Eve from Adam’s rib, as unoriginal as sin.
I’m not saying anything original. Misogynist jokes, like all misogynist discourse, are usually unoriginal and derivative, as derivative as Eve from Adam’s rib, as unoriginal as sin.
What a read.
posted by rrrrrrrrrt at 10:39 PM on August 15 [1 favorite]
posted by rrrrrrrrrt at 10:39 PM on August 15 [1 favorite]
Mod note: Okay, switched those around!
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane (staff) at 11:01 PM on August 15 [1 favorite]
posted by goodnewsfortheinsane (staff) at 11:01 PM on August 15 [1 favorite]
Misogynist jokes ... are usually unoriginal and derivative
Donne's "The Flea" may be an example of this in more ways than one. IIRC the essay doesn't make it clear, but Katie Kadue is a comparative literature scholar with a specialty in 16th and 17th C. French and English lit. So I imagine this is lurking in the background of her discussion of "The Flea" and unoriginality: Donne may have borrowed the poem's subject matter from the 16th C. French collection La Puce de Madame Des Roches. There's more here and also fully readable here on Madeleine and Catherine Des Roches and the poems, including how "Pasquier imagines that he is the flea ..." Anyway, very interesting essay, and Katie Kadue regularly reviews films on Letterboxd too.
posted by Wobbuffet at 11:57 PM on August 15 [2 favorites]
Donne's "The Flea" may be an example of this in more ways than one. IIRC the essay doesn't make it clear, but Katie Kadue is a comparative literature scholar with a specialty in 16th and 17th C. French and English lit. So I imagine this is lurking in the background of her discussion of "The Flea" and unoriginality: Donne may have borrowed the poem's subject matter from the 16th C. French collection La Puce de Madame Des Roches. There's more here and also fully readable here on Madeleine and Catherine Des Roches and the poems, including how "Pasquier imagines that he is the flea ..." Anyway, very interesting essay, and Katie Kadue regularly reviews films on Letterboxd too.
posted by Wobbuffet at 11:57 PM on August 15 [2 favorites]
QFT: The misogynist joke is offensive, but even more than most jokes, it’s also defensive. It protects the joker against criticism. It protects him against becoming a joke himself.
This is an excellent essay, thanks for posting
posted by chavenet at 1:32 AM on August 16 [1 favorite]
This is an excellent essay, thanks for posting
posted by chavenet at 1:32 AM on August 16 [1 favorite]
explaining The Honeymooners to people who had never seen it was hard "it's domestic violence, but comedy?" this essay offers a more articulate way, thank you!
posted by HearHere at 2:52 AM on August 16 [1 favorite]
posted by HearHere at 2:52 AM on August 16 [1 favorite]
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“Content note:comedy” should probably be the title and “The rape joke is you went home like nothing happened” should be the text
posted by Francies at 10:28 PM on August 15