fear WWIII Iraq
March 26, 2003 12:48 AM Subscribe
The Triumph of Fear- " just as every moment that we choose despair we deepen the likelihood of a world of war, so every moment where we choose to affirm love and generosity and our mutual interconnectedness we increase the likelihood of a world of peace and justice." ....
I guess I'm a ambivalent about this article (as dated as it is already) and I don't get a "straight" fpp that doesn't add a single thought or question to the link.
Maybe the left is having trouble focusing on a positive future because even seemingly rational arguments against the war (like this article) are undercut by those pushing either side of their Israel/Palestine agenda.
In case you blinked the US policy against Iraq is modelled 100% after Sharon's policy toward Palestine.
posted by victors at 2:17 PM on March 26, 2003
Maybe the left is having trouble focusing on a positive future because even seemingly rational arguments against the war (like this article) are undercut by those pushing either side of their Israel/Palestine agenda.
In case you blinked the US policy against Iraq is modelled 100% after Sharon's policy toward Palestine.
posted by victors at 2:17 PM on March 26, 2003
the US policy against Iraq is modelled 100% after Sharon's policy toward Palestine
That sounds fairly ominously vague. Would you care to cite specific examples, sources, or any other information available?
Iraq's flaunting and ignoring the promises it's made does not a religious war make.
posted by hama7 at 4:48 AM on March 27, 2003
That sounds fairly ominously vague. Would you care to cite specific examples, sources, or any other information available?
Iraq's flaunting and ignoring the promises it's made does not a religious war make.
posted by hama7 at 4:48 AM on March 27, 2003
That sounds fairly ominously vague.
I'm guessing you meant "unsubstantiated"
To which I respond that I misused the term "modelled after" -- I should have said "shares the same reactionary ideology as." I understand the history of the Wolfowitz doctrine pre-dating Sharon's (latest) rise.
Iraq's flaunting and ignoring the promises it's made does not a religious war make
We're at war with Iraq about as much for broken promises as Israel is at war with Palestinians over which day the Sabbath falls on -- which is to say: none.
Both wars are a matter of national security, both pit hugely superior military might against terrorism. Additionally both are being fought from the same strategically ideological bent that doing anything other than bring to bear the hugely superior military might against the other is abiding and appeasing terrorism.
Either way, I think the Iraqi war is wrong and I was venting my frustration at the "peace movement" for not giving me better arguments than this article which has Israeli interests as it's fulcrum.
posted by victors at 7:51 AM on March 27, 2003
I'm guessing you meant "unsubstantiated"
To which I respond that I misused the term "modelled after" -- I should have said "shares the same reactionary ideology as." I understand the history of the Wolfowitz doctrine pre-dating Sharon's (latest) rise.
Iraq's flaunting and ignoring the promises it's made does not a religious war make
We're at war with Iraq about as much for broken promises as Israel is at war with Palestinians over which day the Sabbath falls on -- which is to say: none.
Both wars are a matter of national security, both pit hugely superior military might against terrorism. Additionally both are being fought from the same strategically ideological bent that doing anything other than bring to bear the hugely superior military might against the other is abiding and appeasing terrorism.
Either way, I think the Iraqi war is wrong and I was venting my frustration at the "peace movement" for not giving me better arguments than this article which has Israeli interests as it's fulcrum.
posted by victors at 7:51 AM on March 27, 2003
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