The Incredibles
June 5, 2003 5:43 AM Subscribe
The Incredibles is what you get when you give Iron Giant director Brad Bird the keys to the Pixar machine.
Pixar, Steve jobs paid 10M and now it's worth 1B. Wonder if this was done to tell Disney we want our share, 50%.
Do you recognize Mr. Incredible, same person they modeled Buzz Lightyear after. Hint he won an Oscar and is a CEO, not a movie star.
posted by thomcatspike at 7:13 AM on June 5, 2003
Do you recognize Mr. Incredible, same person they modeled Buzz Lightyear after. Hint he won an Oscar and is a CEO, not a movie star.
posted by thomcatspike at 7:13 AM on June 5, 2003
The trailer is... INCREDIBLE!!! What fun! Can you imagine they already know EXACTLY when next year they are going to release this. Sure to be another hit.
posted by scalz at 7:57 AM on June 5, 2003
posted by scalz at 7:57 AM on June 5, 2003
What's the music? I really recognise that melody but can't place it.
posted by skylar at 8:02 AM on June 5, 2003
posted by skylar at 8:02 AM on June 5, 2003
It sounds a lot like a reworking of John Barry's main theme for "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" (1969).
(Checks IMBD)
And John Barry is doing the music for the Incredibles, so...
posted by Hogshead at 8:10 AM on June 5, 2003
(Checks IMBD)
And John Barry is doing the music for the Incredibles, so...
posted by Hogshead at 8:10 AM on June 5, 2003
skylar, I'm told it's a Propellerheads remix of the theme from On Her Majesty's Secret Service, but I can't confirm this.
scalz, speaking of knowing "EXACTLY when next year" this'll come out: It's the same date that Dreamworks has staked out (and advertised) for their forthcoming feature animation, Sharkslayer. Me-ow, huh? It's work mentioning that even though it doesn't seem to have the appeal of, say, the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, it's the same weekend that Monsters, Inc. opened into in '01 to record-breaking results.
posted by blueshammer at 8:18 AM on June 5, 2003
scalz, speaking of knowing "EXACTLY when next year" this'll come out: It's the same date that Dreamworks has staked out (and advertised) for their forthcoming feature animation, Sharkslayer. Me-ow, huh? It's work mentioning that even though it doesn't seem to have the appeal of, say, the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, it's the same weekend that Monsters, Inc. opened into in '01 to record-breaking results.
posted by blueshammer at 8:18 AM on June 5, 2003
I didn't have sound installed, but I still found it quite funny.
posted by delmoi at 9:04 AM on June 5, 2003
posted by delmoi at 9:04 AM on June 5, 2003
I don't think it's the Propellerheads' remix; I'm listening to that right now and, unless the Propellerheads did more than one, this isn't it. The music in the trailer is definitely "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", though; if John Barry is writing the music for this movie, the version in the trailer is probably just (like Hogshead said) a reworking of the same theme.
(Note to future self: buy Incredibles soundtrack)
posted by wanderingmind at 9:06 AM on June 5, 2003
(Note to future self: buy Incredibles soundtrack)
posted by wanderingmind at 9:06 AM on June 5, 2003
With the exception of Monsters, Inc. (IMHO), Pixar flicks just keep getting better. Finding Nemo was great for both the big and little kids, and The Incredibles looks promising as well. More on The Incredibles (via kottke).
posted by DakotaPaul at 9:14 AM on June 5, 2003
posted by DakotaPaul at 9:14 AM on June 5, 2003
Just saw Nemo last night. Nothing but smiles the whole movie long. Amazing, as I always expect from Pixar. (How much longer can they keep this up?)
posted by gramcracker at 9:46 AM on June 5, 2003
posted by gramcracker at 9:46 AM on June 5, 2003
They can keep it up until such time as they decide money is more important than quality (see: Disney).
posted by five fresh fish at 10:17 AM on June 5, 2003
posted by five fresh fish at 10:17 AM on June 5, 2003
Yay!
(a pedantic note: the music is usually the very last thing to be done on a movie, so Mr barry has probably not even thought about considering the possibility of thinking about it. The music is an actual cue from OHMSS - they usually use music from existing movies at this stage, and often up until final cut stage. Nice touch to use music by the composer assigned to the task, though.)
posted by Grangousier at 11:27 AM on June 5, 2003
(a pedantic note: the music is usually the very last thing to be done on a movie, so Mr barry has probably not even thought about considering the possibility of thinking about it. The music is an actual cue from OHMSS - they usually use music from existing movies at this stage, and often up until final cut stage. Nice touch to use music by the composer assigned to the task, though.)
posted by Grangousier at 11:27 AM on June 5, 2003
Blueshammer, not to quibble but I see Sharkslayer as coming Nov. 19 and this on Nov. 5, what's your source that says same day?
posted by billsaysthis at 12:29 PM on June 5, 2003
posted by billsaysthis at 12:29 PM on June 5, 2003
Well, the link I posted in my comment, for one, which is to Greg's Upcoming Movies on Yahoo! -- a pretty well-connected site. Here's a link to today's Variety -- unfortunately, that's a subscription site, but you get the gist from the precis they offer before they make you sign in.
posted by blueshammer at 12:35 PM on June 5, 2003
posted by blueshammer at 12:35 PM on June 5, 2003
They can keep it up until such time as they decide money is more important than quality (see: Disney).
Disney distributes their movies, Pixar wants a full split, 50/50, iirc only receiving 10% now.
The answer to the question above is John A. Lasseter, he was head man @ Pixar under Jobs in the interview I just saw, but the web has him listed different.
posted by thomcatspike at 12:38 PM on June 5, 2003
Disney distributes their movies, Pixar wants a full split, 50/50, iirc only receiving 10% now.
The answer to the question above is John A. Lasseter, he was head man @ Pixar under Jobs in the interview I just saw, but the web has him listed different.
posted by thomcatspike at 12:38 PM on June 5, 2003
I believe Pixar is in a 50/50+ split right now
Pixar and Disney split the production cost and the profit.
Plus Disney charges a 17% fee for distribution
Pixar wants to fund its own production and just pay Disney a smaller distro fee after the completion of their 5 picture deal.
(Incredibles in 2004, and Cars in 2005)
Disney will probably be tempted to give them the finger.
Doing so would probably just seal their doom as a mediocre-at-best animated film producer.
Disney has already signed on a new CG company (forget the name - they'r eout of Toronto and owned by William Shatner, of all people)
Disney is supposedly gearing up to dump hand animation all together since obviously anything CGI will automatically sell.
(We all know, however, it's story, story, story . . . and cgi)
posted by cinderful at 1:52 PM on June 5, 2003
Pixar and Disney split the production cost and the profit.
Plus Disney charges a 17% fee for distribution
Pixar wants to fund its own production and just pay Disney a smaller distro fee after the completion of their 5 picture deal.
(Incredibles in 2004, and Cars in 2005)
Disney will probably be tempted to give them the finger.
Doing so would probably just seal their doom as a mediocre-at-best animated film producer.
Disney has already signed on a new CG company (forget the name - they'r eout of Toronto and owned by William Shatner, of all people)
Disney is supposedly gearing up to dump hand animation all together since obviously anything CGI will automatically sell.
(We all know, however, it's story, story, story . . . and cgi)
posted by cinderful at 1:52 PM on June 5, 2003
God damn I love Brad Bird. The Iron Giant made me believe they could tell good, intelligent stories with animated giant robots. I keep showing the DVD to friends, and nobody seems to get what I'm getting out of it. Hopefully Bird will get some respect if this is a hit.
It's a damned crime how they marketed The Iron Giant, by the way.
posted by Hildago at 5:02 PM on June 5, 2003
It's a damned crime how they marketed The Iron Giant, by the way.
posted by Hildago at 5:02 PM on June 5, 2003
Disney needs Pixar more than Pixar needs Disney. All of Pixar's movies have done better than any of Disney's over the last few years. At this point, Pixar could get a distribution deal with anyone they wanted, and tell Disney to go f**k themselves.
And yes, Nemo was amazing.
posted by kewms at 7:41 PM on June 5, 2003
And yes, Nemo was amazing.
posted by kewms at 7:41 PM on June 5, 2003
I keep showing the DVD to friends, and nobody seems to get what I'm getting out of it.
That's very sad. I love that movie.
posted by kindall at 7:57 PM on June 5, 2003
That's very sad. I love that movie.
posted by kindall at 7:57 PM on June 5, 2003
I guess I better see The Iron Giant, then, eh?
I'll be very disappointed if Pixar doesn't tell Disney to go screw. It's, like, a moral imperative.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:07 PM on June 5, 2003
I'll be very disappointed if Pixar doesn't tell Disney to go screw. It's, like, a moral imperative.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:07 PM on June 5, 2003
I'm sorry, there's no effing way I'm gonna get hyped up about a movie 18 freakin' months before it's released, simply on the basis of a trailer. This is hype, pure and simple.
Hey, I'm not denying it'll probably be a good film, but trying to get people excited a year and a half before it's gonna opened? Pretty uncool in my book.
posted by John Shaft at 3:46 AM on June 6, 2003
Hey, I'm not denying it'll probably be a good film, but trying to get people excited a year and a half before it's gonna opened? Pretty uncool in my book.
posted by John Shaft at 3:46 AM on June 6, 2003
there's no effing way I'm gonna get hyped up about a movie 18 freakin' months before it's released, simply on the basis of a trailer.
Then get hyped on the basis of it being Brad Bird and Pixar, like the rest of us! The trailer's almost irrelevant.
posted by kindall at 6:20 AM on June 6, 2003
Then get hyped on the basis of it being Brad Bird and Pixar, like the rest of us! The trailer's almost irrelevant.
posted by kindall at 6:20 AM on June 6, 2003
Disney currently splits the cost of making films with Pixar but takes more than 60 percent of the profits and retains ownership and sequel rights.
posted by thomcatspike at 10:39 AM on June 6, 2003
posted by thomcatspike at 10:39 AM on June 6, 2003
"What Pixar has that we don't have is John Lasseter," he [Eisner] said.
Which is, basically, everything. If you don't have Lasseter, you don't have Nemo, Buzz & Woody, etc.
Disney sucks so many different ways, from its ownership of American politicians to the scary things that happen in its theme parks to the crappy films it makes.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:42 AM on June 9, 2003
Which is, basically, everything. If you don't have Lasseter, you don't have Nemo, Buzz & Woody, etc.
Disney sucks so many different ways, from its ownership of American politicians to the scary things that happen in its theme parks to the crappy films it makes.
posted by five fresh fish at 8:42 AM on June 9, 2003
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here is an alternate link--you have to sit through 30 seconds of flash, but then the preview will be available in multiple formats & sizes.
posted by whatnot at 6:54 AM on June 5, 2003